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Luscious Media 07-18-2007 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tomimp
This thread makes me ill. There are books out there that tell you tricks like this to discredit someone. Like, put a letter in someone's mailbox addressed to the Predisdent laced with threats, then put up the flag on the box. The mailman picks up the letter and delivers it without the homeowner ever knowing. Within days they get a surprise visit.

I hope it wasn't Lisa and I have faith that it wasn't. She would have very little to gain and EVERYthing to lose. It just doesn't add up.
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Writing that one down thanks.
Welcome. Here's a link to the book I mentioned.
http://www.atomicbooks.com/products/-/6307.html

A fellow service member of mine did exactly as I said earlier to our CO. The Major went missing for 2 weeks, came back for a month and then was transfered. It was NOT coincidental. I actually felt bad for my CO (even though he was a prick) because the guy who did it got busted on a urinalysis test. All the CO did was sign the paperwork to get him discharged, which was his job.

Anyhow, my point is, ANYone could have charged to Lisa's room. Especially if they wanted to discredit her. Also, I've worked at a few hotels. The front desk people aren't paid much, they make a lot of mistakes and sometimes they just charge shit to a room...any room...because it's easier than doing it correctly.

So who stole the wallet? Who charged the room? As I see it so far, nobody knows for sure. Until then, innocent until proven guilty. :2 cents:

chase 07-18-2007 07:48 AM

Whoa. There is NEVER a valid reason for giving a model's real name, IMO.

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 12778209)
the thread accusing lisa ...15+ pages

and if she is innocent the apology thread ... less than one page ....



as the industry turns

Wouldn't surprise me one bit..

I usually find peoples' ignorance to be entertaining on here, but when that ignorance can effect someone's reputation, it becomes kinda sad..

Especially knowing that these are some of the people that make up the industry..

Here ya have a guy comin' on here with, We had a wallet stolen and we know who did it, but I will wait for the victim to let the cat outa the bag..
Wait for it.. wait for it... Big news to come...

Guess, guess guess.. maybe her? no.. maybe it was her! Oh wait! What about this one??

The victim arrives with, "SHE STOLE IT, SHE STOLE IT!!"

Now the lynch mob continues to form and it's, "She's guilty!! Hang the bitch!!"


Then low and behold.. "Well.. maybe I did lose it."

I really hope that once the REAL evidence is produced, the mods sticky an apology thread for a couple days..

GFY is one thing, but someone's livelihood and reputation is something else... and when you put the two together, that is where some people should really fear to tread...

sniperwolf 07-18-2007 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tomimp (Post 12778251)
Welcome. Here's a link to the book I mentioned.
http://www.atomicbooks.com/products/-/6307.html

A fellow service member of mine did exactly as I said earlier to our CO. The Major went missing for 2 weeks, came back for a month and then was transfered. It was NOT coincidental. I actually felt bad for my CO (even though he was a prick) because the guy who did it got busted on a urinalysis test. All the CO did was sign the paperwork to get him discharged, which was his job.

Anyhow, my point is, ANYone could have charged to Lisa's room. Especially if they wanted to discredit her. Also, I've worked at a few hotels. The front desk people aren't paid much, they make a lot of mistakes and sometimes they just charge shit to a room...any room...because it's easier than doing it correctly.

So who stole the wallet? Who charged the room? As I see it so far, nobody knows for sure. Until then, innocent until proven guilty. :2 cents:

As i've read it... i think your right mate! :thumbsup

lisa sparks 07-18-2007 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12777598)
anyone else thinks how weird it was to see Lisa Sparxxx jump into this thread and start furiously defending herself? Guilty conscience much?

Um I was called on the phone being asked for money. I have nothing to hide hence why I am on a public forum.

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 12777257)
exactly, so the person who tried to use the stolen card to pay for your room, knew your real name?

Which makes it even more possible that it was a hotel employee wanting to keep a room open for his buddies, or some new found gal pals to party..

If they both stayed at the Hard Rock..

The employee finds a card with a fair amount of room expenses on it, so one more entry wouldn't be as easy to notice.. Grab a room that someone just checked out of and charge another day to the busy account..

I have a feeling some of these hotel employees have stuff like this down to a science.. and it probably happens alot..

It's just that this time it got noticed because of the missing wallet, which I don't think had anything to do with the fact that a room was charged to the card..

JMM 07-18-2007 08:26 AM

This thread is wrong on so many levels.

Lisa denies any involvement. She also denies that her husband and friend were involved. Soooooo.........

Lisa, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. turn yourself in to Las Vegas authorities
2. reimburse Caza for all expenses incurred including airfare for his friend to bring him money, etc.
3. issue a full admission and public apology on GFY and pay whatever it costs to have the apology stickied for one week


The thread title alone makes it obvious what the intent here was. Mike/Caza thought that Lisa was responsible, so in an effort to get some payback, they figured they would fuck with her chances of winning the booble contest. Sooooooooo......

Mike/Caza, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. immediately send a money order in the amount of $5000 to Lisa
2. Post a public apology on GFY and pay for it to be stickied for one week
3. Sign up for Lisa's affiliate program and give her site prime position on your sites for 30 days

If anyone else needs my arbitration services, I am available free of charge.

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12778399)
This thread is wrong on so many levels.

Lisa denies any involvement. She also denies that her husband and friend were involved. Soooooo.........

Lisa, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. turn yourself in to Las Vegas authorities
2. reimburse Caza for all expenses incurred including airfare for his friend to bring him money, etc.
3. issue a full admission and public apology on GFY and pay whatever it costs to have the apology stickied for one week


The thread title alone makes it obvious what the intent here was. Mike/Caza thought that Lisa was responsible, so in an effort to get some payback, they figured they would fuck with her chances of winning the booble contest. Sooooooooo......

Mike/Caza, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. immediately send a money order in the amount of $5000 to Lisa
2. Post a public apology on GFY and pay for it to be stickied for one week
3. Sign up for Lisa's affiliate program and give her site prime position on your sites for 30 days

If anyone else needs my arbitration services, I am available free of charge.

Certainly sounds fair and just to me..

Shok 07-18-2007 08:44 AM

Lisa thief......no way!!!




But just in case, I checked

http://shawinternet.com/shok/lisa1.jpg

http://shawinternet.com/shok/lisa2.jpg



it's not in there!

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok (Post 12778467)
Lisa thief......no way!!!




But just in case, I checked

..........
it's not in there!

Yer bad.. :)

Martin3 07-18-2007 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12778399)
This thread is wrong on so many levels.

Lisa denies any involvement. She also denies that her husband and friend were involved. Soooooo.........

Lisa, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. turn yourself in to Las Vegas authorities
2. reimburse Caza for all expenses incurred including airfare for his friend to bring him money, etc.
3. issue a full admission and public apology on GFY and pay whatever it costs to have the apology stickied for one week


The thread title alone makes it obvious what the intent here was. Mike/Caza thought that Lisa was responsible, so in an effort to get some payback, they figured they would fuck with her chances of winning the booble contest. Sooooooooo......

Mike/Caza, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. immediately send a money order in the amount of $5000 to Lisa
2. Post a public apology on GFY and pay for it to be stickied for one week
3. Sign up for Lisa's affiliate program and give her site prime position on your sites for 30 days

If anyone else needs my arbitration services, I am available free of charge.

I agree, this thread if fucking retarded. Only out come is going to be some one looking like a real douche bag.

Should have waited until there was a lot more proof before outing anyone. Especially considering it was at a hotel. They fuck up charges all the time.

cranki 07-18-2007 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12778399)
This thread is wrong on so many levels.

Lisa denies any involvement. She also denies that her husband and friend were involved. Soooooo.........

Lisa, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. turn yourself in to Las Vegas authorities
2. reimburse Caza for all expenses incurred including airfare for his friend to bring him money, etc.
3. issue a full admission and public apology on GFY and pay whatever it costs to have the apology stickied for one week


The thread title alone makes it obvious what the intent here was. Mike/Caza thought that Lisa was responsible, so in an effort to get some payback, they figured they would fuck with her chances of winning the booble contest. Sooooooooo......

Mike/Caza, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. immediately send a money order in the amount of $5000 to Lisa
2. Post a public apology on GFY and pay for it to be stickied for one week
3. Sign up for Lisa's affiliate program and give her site prime position on your sites for 30 days

If anyone else needs my arbitration services, I am available free of charge.

good call :thumbsup

Tom_PM 07-18-2007 09:02 AM

Someones lawyer would probably have to get a judge to ask for the security tapes, as I dont think just going there and asking is going to do anything. They will protect themselves before helping others. Thats the way of it these days.

Dont know why her real name was posted exactly, but it feels wrong. First name would have sufficed probably? Anyway, good luck to everyone.

Vlad 07-18-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12777309)
Not that he hasn't been called an idiot since page 2.

hello you scamming shithead ! :321GFY

Dan 07-18-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12777404)
I just hope someone doesn't lose a credit card at a convention and someone finds it and tries to pay my hotel bill for me.


I would have my name trashed and waste hours trying to defend myself. :warning:upsidedow

Yep quote of the thread here.

CDSmith 07-18-2007 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk (Post 12777272)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk (Post 12777221)
Lisa ?

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk (Post 12777272)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Just a question Mike, but how doy you figure you're doing your program and your reputation any favores with cocky cockin' off smartassy posts like this?

Posting her real name was pretty low, no?

Is she guilty or isn't she? Maybe it's best to find out for sure before the trashing started.

Skillz Unlimited 07-18-2007 09:10 AM

dumb ass broad.

stev0 07-18-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12778399)
This thread is wrong on so many levels.

Lisa denies any involvement. She also denies that her husband and friend were involved. Soooooo.........

Lisa, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. turn yourself in to Las Vegas authorities
2. reimburse Caza for all expenses incurred including airfare for his friend to bring him money, etc.
3. issue a full admission and public apology on GFY and pay whatever it costs to have the apology stickied for one week


The thread title alone makes it obvious what the intent here was. Mike/Caza thought that Lisa was responsible, so in an effort to get some payback, they figured they would fuck with her chances of winning the booble contest. Sooooooooo......

Mike/Caza, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. immediately send a money order in the amount of $5000 to Lisa
2. Post a public apology on GFY and pay for it to be stickied for one week
3. Sign up for Lisa's affiliate program and give her site prime position on your sites for 30 days

If anyone else needs my arbitration services, I am available free of charge.

Her hotel room was paid for and she didn't even question it...? She knows SHE didn't pay the bill, if she didn't use his card then I'd be willing to bet she knows who did. People don't just steal cards and buy hotel rooms for strangers.

Nicky 07-18-2007 09:14 AM

I have read this entire thread, gonna be interesting to see the outcome

JMM 07-18-2007 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 12778613)
Her hotel room was paid for and she didn't even question it...? She knows SHE didn't pay the bill, if she didn't use his card then I'd be willing to bet she knows who did. People don't just steal cards and buy hotel rooms for strangers.

She says she used express checkout. If that is the case than no, she would not have known.

I ALWAYS use express checkout when it is available and check my bill when it comes in the mail.

Again, I have no idea who is right and who is wrong. I just think the thread is pretty lame.

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Skillz Unlimited (Post 12778593)
dumb ass broad.

Kinda shows that you're 'skillz' and quite limited... :)

baddog 07-18-2007 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 12778613)
Her hotel room was paid for and she didn't even question it...? She knows SHE didn't pay the bill, if she didn't use his card then I'd be willing to bet she knows who did. People don't just steal cards and buy hotel rooms for strangers.

If you read I believe you will find that she used the express checkout. The card you have on file when you checked in would be the one charged.

NinjaSteve 07-18-2007 09:23 AM

Holy shit this is a huge thread.

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 12778613)
Her hotel room was paid for and she didn't even question it...? She knows SHE didn't pay the bill, if she didn't use his card then I'd be willing to bet she knows who did. People don't just steal cards and buy hotel rooms for strangers.

Uhh.. Read her posts..
she used her card and a friend's card that shared the room..
Those are the only cards she was aware of on her bill.. and the bill that the Hard Rock faxed to her.. Wasn't til after she was outa there that the other card issue came up...

Which is why I think it was an employee deal...

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki (Post 12778541)
good call :thumbsup

I think Lisa would be willing to agree to it...

The accusers I think would be reluctant..

Just my take on it..

fuzebox 07-18-2007 09:26 AM

For what it's worth, last time I paid for a hotel room, I just gave them a room number and did not have to verify the name on the room. I'm not sure if that was a special case and they were supposed to, but I just told them it was room xxxx and I'd like to pay cash, and they said sure, it is $xxx thank you have a nice day.

The only conclusion I've been able to draw from this thread is that Smashbucks and Mike Hawk look really bad. :2 cents:

D 07-18-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk (Post 12777221)
Lisa?

err.......

Peaches 07-18-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12778399)
This thread is wrong on so many levels.

Lisa denies any involvement. She also denies that her husband and friend were involved. Soooooo.........

Lisa, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. turn yourself in to Las Vegas authorities
2. reimburse Caza for all expenses incurred including airfare for his friend to bring him money, etc.
3. issue a full admission and public apology on GFY and pay whatever it costs to have the apology stickied for one week


The thread title alone makes it obvious what the intent here was. Mike/Caza thought that Lisa was responsible, so in an effort to get some payback, they figured they would fuck with her chances of winning the booble contest. Sooooooooo......

Mike/Caza, should the evidence prove otherwise, will you agree to:

1. immediately send a money order in the amount of $5000 to Lisa
2. Post a public apology on GFY and pay for it to be stickied for one week
3. Sign up for Lisa's affiliate program and give her site prime position on your sites for 30 days

If anyone else needs my arbitration services, I am available free of charge.

Best post ever in this entire cesspool.

Just an FYI - several years ago Shok and I checked into separate rooms at the same time in Vegas. They put both our rooms on HIS card. His wife was not amused when she got a call about the high usage on his card (mebbe if he didn't have so many Spectravision porn movies.....). Anyhoo, total mistake by the front desk.

2 weeks ago I upgraded to a suite. I was staying 3 nights and they charged me 9 NIGHTS of upgrades. :helpme

I would estimate that at least 50% of the time charges are wrong on my hotel bills. Most of the show attendees aren't paying for their bill so they probably don't even look. When you have a hotel filled with people you know, the chances of a mistake reflecting on someone ELSE you know's room bill is going to be high.

JMM 07-18-2007 09:33 AM

BTW, for the legal geniuses here:

Anyone v. Hard Rock: Not going to happen. They did nothing wrong and rectified the situation immediately.

Caza v. Sparxxx: Won't happen in superior court, doesn't meet the statutory requirements. Could happen in small claims court but proving that there was $1000 in the wallet would be next to impossible. You can't just SAY what you had, you have to prove it.

Sparxxx v. Mike Hawk/Caza: There is a case here, especially if she loses the booble contest. But regardless of whether or not there is a strong case, I would gladly pay for the audio transcript:


Clerk of the Court: Now Hearing Sparxxx vs. Mike Hawk. Is Ms. Sparxxx present in the courtroom? Is Mike Hawk present? Mike Hawk, now calling Mike Hawk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom?

Judge: Clerk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom? Have you seen Mike Hawk?

Clerk of the Court: Your honor, I can't seem to find Mike Hawk. I don't know where Mike Hawk is. Have you seen Mike Hawk your honor?

etc, etc, etc, etc. You can finish it yourself, don't make it go more than a few more lines, then it just gets silly.

P.S. You have to read it fast to get the full effect.

Scootermuze 07-18-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 12778547)
Dont know why her real name was posted exactly, but it feels wrong.

When people can't succeed when hitting high, they hit low..

Brings out the true character of some folks..

cool1 07-18-2007 09:36 AM

innocent until proven guilty

CDSmith 07-18-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12778716)
BTW, for the legal geniuses here:

Anyone v. Hard Rock: Not going to happen. They did nothing wrong and rectified the situation immediately.

Caza v. Sparxxx: Won't happen in superior court, doesn't meet the statutory requirements. Could happen in small claims court but proving that there was $1000 in the wallet would be next to impossible. You can't just SAY what you had, you have to prove it.

Sparxxx v. Mike Hawk/Caza: There is a case here, especially if she loses the booble contest. But regardless of whether or not there is a strong case, I would gladly pay for the audio transcript:


Clerk of the Court: Now Hearing Sparxxx vs. Mike Hawk. Is Ms. Sparxxx present in the courtroom? Is Mike Hawk present? Mike Hawk, now calling Mike Hawk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom?

Judge: Clerk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom? Have you seen Mike Hawk?

Clerk of the Court: Your honor, I can't seem to find Mike Hawk. I don't know where Mike Hawk is. Have you seen Mike Hawk your honor?

etc, etc, etc, etc. You can finish it yourself, don't make it go more than a few more lines, then it just gets silly.

P.S. You have to read it fast to get the full effect.

You're on a roll today. :D

Compdoctor 07-18-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 12778707)
Best post ever in this entire cesspool.

Just an FYI - several years ago Shok and I checked into separate rooms at the same time in Vegas. They put both our rooms on HIS card. His wife was not amused when she got a call about the high usage on his card (mebbe if he didn't have so many Spectravision porn movies.....). Anyhoo, total mistake by the front desk.

2 weeks ago I upgraded to a suite. I was staying 3 nights and they charged me 9 NIGHTS of upgrades. :helpme

I would estimate that at least 50% of the time charges are wrong on my hotel bills. Most of the show attendees aren't paying for their bill so they probably don't even look. When you have a hotel filled with people you know, the chances of a mistake reflecting on someone ELSE you know's room bill is going to be high.

Same here, at least 6 out of 10 hotels I stay in, usually have messed up bills, ending with me calling them and discussing the problems. Once I got chared for a weeks stay, and I was only there overnite!

If you got your stuff taken, then the person should pay. but to bring the person's real name on a board like this is way beyond cool....espectly when no one knows for sure!

Just my two cents.

Peaches 07-18-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12778716)
Is Mike Hawk present? Mike Hawk, now calling Mike Hawk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom?

Judge: Clerk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom? Have you seen Mike Hawk?

Clerk of the Court: Your honor, I can't seem to find Mike Hawk. I don't know where Mike Hawk is. Have you seen Mike Hawk your honor?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

SomeCreep 07-18-2007 09:47 AM

damn, 10 pages and no conclusion yet.

Anal Hobbit 07-18-2007 09:47 AM

Too bad Lisa wasnt Black..

We could be calling Mike Hawk a Racist as well.

Damn...

Anyone know if she is Jewish by any chance?

OMG Jim 07-18-2007 09:48 AM

No more speculation needed. These guys are on the case which means it should be solved in less than an hour! :thumbsup

http://media.eresmas.com/biblioteca/...le/csi_648.jpg
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Sheri Santiago 07-18-2007 09:48 AM

Hotels are ridiculous for charges. Last hotel I booked charged me $130 for the pool bar. I wasn't at the pool the entire time I stayed. When I called the woman on the phone told me the name signed wasn't even close to my name, yet they charged me anyway. I guess they don't bother to check.

Anal Hobbit 07-18-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Compdoctor (Post 12778788)
Same here, at least 6 out of 10 hotels I stay in, usually have messed up bills, ending with me calling them and discussing the problems. Once I got chared for a weeks stay, and I was only there overnite!

If you got your stuff taken, then the person should pay. but to bring the person's real name on a board like this is way beyond cool....espectly when no one knows for sure!

Just my two cents.

6 out of 10 huh?

Hmmmm..

Anyone else here believe this guy?

jonesonyou 07-18-2007 09:49 AM

complete rat shit. No one should put up with this.


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