Was the woman Black?

Yea why should I my bill was paid for by my credit cards on file. Point I had this faxed since I checked out of the room and never went to the front desk. This is what they faxed to me last night. My bill was paid..

http://www.lisasparxxx.com/sfn/bill.jpg
http://www.lisasparxxx.com/sfn/bill2.jpg

Hotel employees know this as well.. and they all aren't mistakes..

There was a show on some years back about how some utility companies pad the bills of big corporations because they know that the customer will just look at the amount owed and write a check...

What secretary is gonna run out and check the meter to verify the amount of electricity used? or water.. or whatever..

If they are confronted.. "Oops.. our fault.. we'll credit it back."
Very seldom are they caught..

I read both sides to this ordeal before I started posting...
Where some started bashing at the first sign of who was being accused..

Lisa didn't do it..

Stupid bitch. LOL

Sorry, but I believe somewhere on page 3 or 4, these people already claimed jurisdiction:

http://www.nbc.com/Las_Vegas/images/billboard_main2.jpg

Thank you this is exactly what I did.. Most people do this. If there is an error I call later after my receipt has been mailed.

Seems to me if there isn't a video tape of Lisa herself standing at the check out desk attempting to use that credit card, there is no proof she is involved in any way. Even IF someone staying in her room tried to use the card ...it doesn't mean SHES guilty of anything, or had any knowledge of the event.

Hotels make mistakes..it could have been something as simple as an employee entering the wrong room number..there are a 100 different ways this could have happened.

I would say that Lisa has a very strong case for a defamation suit against Mike Hawk...I hope he has deep pockets because I have a feeling this is going to cost him many times more than $5k...The damage has been done..its too late to say "Sorry I made a mistake".

Yea and we are all worried about 2257 on top of that. Then we have guys like that *trying to post reals names on a public forum.

Anyhow. I voted for you for booble..

You are my kind of gal..

We need to work together....

I usually use express check out too but check the bill on the TV first so I can bitch in person if I see a glaring mistake.

Yea I think that Big Ed had to call for backup since he was too busy with some shit going down at the Montecito to handle HardRock's shit too!
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Lisa, when you do sue, just for the sake of conversation, do you have any jewish blood or American Indian Blood in you?

Im wondering if this accusation is racial in any way..

All info helps.

Let me know.

ThX.

Lisa, when you do sue, just for the sake of conversation, do you have any jewish blood or American Indian Blood in you?

Im wondering if this accusation is racial in any way..

All info helps.

Let me know.

ThX.

Not sure how prevelant it is now with the net, but employees stealing wallets and attempting to put a charge on a card has been an old trick in the hotel industry for years. They see if the card still works, then go buck wild.

Not really, even if it wasn't her.. the card was still used to pay for her room. So it is more than reasonable to assume she was involved, until proven otherwise.

Not saying she was, but as they say possession is 9/10th of the law. Being her room was paid for by the card in question, she was temporally in possession of goods paid for by a stolen credit card. So in all reality it's up to her to prove she had nothing to do with it.

If you had a laptop show up at your door from Dell and it turned out it was bought using a stolen credit card. Well you would be suspect number one until it proven otherwise.

Although it's possible, in that the card 'may' have been stolen, the police could ask to see the tapes to see if/when a stolen card was used..

I don't know what all the cameras show, but it would at least show the people at the desk.. and show who it wasn't..

Not likely that damages would exceed the 5k. And that would only be if she lost the booble contest.

Most lawyers will tell you that defamation suits are almost impossible to win. Yes, it is easy to SAY someone defamed you, but proving actual damages, which is what a lawsuit is all about, is VERY difficult.

Wow is that what a hotel bill looks like in this century? Good god. Used to be you paid for your room. Your ROOM, lmao. Now you pay 2 pages worth of shit that should be included in your stay.. And express paying in advance? Open invitation for charges you never incurred.. 6 in 10 stays with errors sounds perfectly plausible, and damn near criminal too.

Actually, that is incorrect. We had a large package sent via UPS disappear a few years ago. I spent some time with UPS loss prevention trying to track it down. What I learned was that when an item is shipped using a stolen credit card, the #1 suspect is not the resident where the item was shipped but someone within a 2 mile radius of that location.

You may be right..however I would say any reasonable person (see juror) reading this thread would come to the conclusion that her reputation has been damaged, the posts were made with malice and intended to do her harm and that its reasonable to assume that she will lose income due to this as well..beyond the booble contest. I would also submit that the simple action of filing a suit could very well result in an out of court settlement well in excess of the 5k.

Who has established that the 'card' was used to pay for her room..?


I've not read where he said he used that card for his room. but if he did, they already had his number in the system. The physical card becomes a moot issue.


That's where the manipulations and mistakes begin..

Doesn't matter if it was lost or taken out of your pocket.. Once the credit card was "used" it's considered stolen. His was used so it's now considered stolen.

It does not matter what you believe or what you assume. The only thing that matters is what you can PROVE.

Even if she does lose the booble competition, she would have a very difficult time PROVING that it was because of this thread.

With these kinds of cases, you are looking at 20k minimum in legal fees for each side before the case ever saw the inside of a court room. Lisa (not saying that you would Lisa) could easily find a lawyer that would take something other than currency to cover his fee. It happens. One of my ex-models paid for her entire divorce and custody battle on her back and on her knees. Plenty of scumbag lawyers out there that would take this kind of payment.

NOTE: In the above mentioned divorce and custody case, there may also have been some cowgirl and reverse cowgirl payments although I have not received confirmation of this. I have sent her an email to confirm. I will keep you posted.

I always get charged for 10 gay porn movies :-(

Again.. hasn't been established that the card was used and not just his number pulled from the system... if he already used the card for his room...

Yeah, but you watch like 30, so why the :-(

Fuck that happens to me. I get my dad to pay.

wow

after reading the entire thread, I felt compelled to register and weigh in

the first half of this thread seems overrun with drama queens, conclusion-jumpers and liars... reason kicked in very late

I have a feeling many posters will end up deserving to grovel at Lisa's feet for forgiveness, but of course won't

I wonder if the room charges were to say Lensman, or Lars, or someone of that level if Mike Hawk would have done the same thing, or if he would have contacted them and worked it out offline. I love the bro factor in this thread, if your down with the bros it stays quiet, if you're not you are outed with no real concrete proof. The damage is already done to Lisa, if/when she is proven to not be a part having Caz say sorry will not fix the damages that are done.

Lisa's Wikipedia was updated saying she stole, people are bumping her old threads making comments, she's been called a ton of names in this thread. The thing with GFY is most people read over the drama thread once and that is what happened, they don't come back to see how it turned out. So to many people Lisa is a thief. And IF there is an apology thread I promise you it will not have nearly the amount of posts or views that this thread does.

GFY is a great tool when used properly, this thread is not the case. The proper thing Mike should have done was say it's possible that it was stolen by someone in this industry and I'll let Caz break it down if he feels he wants to out the person. Not implicate a dozen people, and then let people go the process of elimination on it.

I for one am sad this has happened, and am very sorry for Caz losing or having his wallet stolen. I hope it does all work out for him in the end. I also hope that Lisa is fully cleared just to see how much worse it looks for Mike, and it maybe will help people see they need facts before hitting submit on GFY.

If Lisa is indeed in need of an apology when this is all said and done, the fair thing to do would be to edit the first post in this thread instead of starting a new one and closing this one. That way it would get more views and a bit more attention... hopefully.

Won't help at all..
One dog barks and many of the neighborhood dogs start barking... No reason needed... just join in..

Too many are still trying to associate the 'possible' stolen wallet with the room charge...

Ok.. he lost his wallet.. was stolen or whatever... Room charges were made from his number (not necessarily his 'card') It happened to be on Lisa's bill..

How many people stayed at the hotel that night? How many other eronious charges were made on other people's cards/bills from that place..?


I really don't think the missing wallet is tied to the room charge.. it's just that the missing wallet is what got the room charge noticed...

Bark on little doggies...

A new sticky thread would do.....if needed

WTF

What kind of scum sucking fuckhead would do something so low when she hasn't even been formally charged or proven guilty?


Some of you assholes need to get a fucking life, and a clue.

This shit sucks, we had someone steal a camera from our Cabana.

Not to mention more threads being started with her real name in it.

It's pretty fucked.

This just makes no sense at all. It sounds more like the hotel fucked up, someone is out to get Lisa, a hotel employee made an error, or was scamming or something.

Attention All Go Fuckers

If ever you need a character reference this is the thread to keep on file.

Final outcome is irrelevant, the important statements have already been made.

Man that sucks ass

:pimp:pimp:pimp yo i have to make trip Austin not sure when , prob like late aug i let you know we hang and go hunt for Texas poon

man i am telling ya its sad that people in our own community would do shit like that. I mean you need to like keep close eyes on your stuff and so on..

crazy man crazyyyyyyyyyy