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TheDoc · 02-12-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

I'll get in the ring with him for $99,900 if you want to save some cash.

I thought Title Fights went up in value?

Anthony · 02-12-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I explained how to break a standing RNC. You confirmed that is what is taught. What's the issue?

It's not like breaking a RNC from a trained person is ever going to be easy, for sure when a blackbelt life long trained fighter gets it on you... come on.

I didn't explain the ground one, just no reason to sit and explain every situation that could come about and again, if a life long trained blackbelt gets on you - it's going to be damn near impossible to get off.

I hope Billy is okay...

Billy is fine. We had two Machado Black Belts in the house at one point, one of the funniest nights I've had in a long time listening to their stories.

Bro, I'll say it again. "You" break out of a RNC and armbar because it's applied incorrectly. The Judo counter you posted earlier works, a percentage of the time. I've actually been taught the counter and tested on it, with a non compliant partner. Against a live roll, I'd probably get it 2 out of 10 times, and I'm trained in it. But no one I know would slap it standing, RNC would be slapped on after your posture has been broken and position dominated. Then your judo counter, and finger counter don't work a damn.

I can teach anyone the RNC and have them effective with it in 10 minutes choking people out.

So you know next time the correct defense to being choked, armbarred, tapped out... Is not to be caught in it. I'd explain it more, but it's something you have learn when you train submission fighting.

TheDoc · 02-12-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Billy is fine. We had two Machado Black Belts in the house at one point, one of the funniest nights I've had in a long time listening to their stories.

Bro, I'll say it again. "You" break out of a RNC and armbar because it's applied incorrectly. The Judo counter you posted earlier works, a percentage of the time. I've actually been taught the counter and tested on it, with a non compliant partner. Against a live roll, I'd probably get it 2 out of 10 times, and I'm trained in it. But no one I know would slap it standing, RNC would be slapped on after your posture has been broken and position dominated. Then your judo counter, and finger counter don't work a damn.

I can teach anyone the RNC and have them effective with it in 10 minutes choking people out.

So you know next time the correct defense to being choked, armbarred, tapped out... Is not to be caught in it. I'd explain it more, but it's something you have learn when you train submission fighting.

Glad Billy is gtg.

Wow more blackblets doing exactly what they've trained to do for years, and succeeding - shocking, I guess.

The Judo move is one of many, you even confirmed that is one way taught to you. The finger isn't getting you out, that's not it's job. And I'm sorry if you only trained one way, you can research probably 50 different ways to break various RNC's online if you need to up your skills.

Most people can be taught the RNC and then they could then choke people out - that is correct. I guess I'll go around teaching a bunch of a 10 year olds how to do it so they can surprise attack you and drop you 80% of the time.

Yeah, we know not being caught in it is key.. but that isn't what we're talking about.

Anthony · 02-12-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Glad Billy is gtg.

Wow more blackblets doing exactly what they've trained to do for years, and succeeding - shocking, I guess.

The Judo move is one of many, you even confirmed that is one way taught to you. The finger isn't getting you out, that's not it's job. And I'm sorry if you only trained one way, you can research probably 50 different ways to break various RNC's online if you need to up your skills.

Most people can be taught the RNC and then they could then choke people out - that is correct. I guess I'll go around teaching a bunch of a 11 year olds how to do it so they can surprise attack you and drop you 80% of the time.

Yeah, we know not being caught in it is key.. but that isn't what we're talking about.

I don't need to go online to go find out how to break out of a RNC. I don't deal in theory, but in practical application. Last night I had the pleasure of hanging out with another BJJ Blackbelt who literally laughed out loud when I read verbatim your boast of being to break out of a fully locked on RNC and Arm Bar because someone isn't strong enough.

The difference is that my 11 year old daughter knows how to apply the choke properly with the right technique, now 16, at 130lbs, would choke you the fuck out. And there wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it.

As a father and husband, I made sure my children and wife can defend themselves knowing how to apply a proper submission instead of being the big alpha male who won't let them because it would hurt my ego.

HD Content · 02-12-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I'll get in the ring with anyone for a $100k - just have him name the place and I'll show up. Let me know and I'll shoot you over my wire details.

That is not how it works. You say you can beat Seagal, I am willing to bet YOU that you can not. No one will pay you anything, put your 100k up then we will talk.

TheDoc · 02-12-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I don't need to go online to go find out how to break out of a RNC. I don't deal in theory, but in practical application. Last night I had the pleasure of hanging out with another BJJ Blackbelt who literally laughed out loud when I read verbatim your boast of being to break out of a fully locked on RNC and Arm Bar because someone isn't strong enough.

The difference is that my 11 year old daughter knows how to apply the choke properly with the right technique, now 16, at 130lbs, would choke you the fuck out. And there wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it.

As a father and husband, I made sure my children and wife can defend themselves knowing how to apply a proper submission instead of being the big alpha male who won't let them because it would hurt my ego.

So you don't take other peoples knowledge, versions, styles, and learn all that you can by practicing it? It must suck to train with someone that isn't willing to learn or try new things.

You need to trade your black belt in for an ego belt.....

Neat, your family members can apply a submission while someone else boot fucks them - brilliant work.

Who said anyone wouldn't let them, who said I haven't let my family/friends get the upper hand to learn? Why do you make up wild stupid shit in your posts rather than stay on topic?

TheDoc · 02-12-2011, 05:20 PM

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That is not how it works. You say you can beat Seagal, I am willing to bet YOU that you can not. No one will pay you anything, put your 100k up then we will talk.

WTF are you talking about? I never said I could beat Seagal - you people are fucked in the head over this subject...

Do you guys share roid needles or something?

papill0n · 02-12-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I don't need to go online to go find out how to break out of a RNC. I don't deal in theory, but in practical application. Last night I had the pleasure of hanging out with another BJJ Blackbelt who literally laughed out loud when I read verbatim your boast of being to break out of a fully locked on RNC and Arm Bar because someone isn't strong enough.

The difference is that my 11 year old daughter knows how to apply the choke properly with the right technique, now 16, at 130lbs, would choke you the fuck out. And there wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it.

As a father and husband, I made sure my children and wife can defend themselves knowing how to apply a proper submission instead of being the big alpha male who won't let them because it would hurt my ego.

just because you are a fucking stupid gorilla who thinks 'choke holds' are a normal part of life doesnt mean anyone else does.

idiot

chaze · 02-13-2011, 03:40 PM

I'm lost this is about choke holds? My question is why you never see real karate in UFC fighting where is the bruce lee's and chuck's?

Relentless · 02-13-2011, 07:00 PM

Everybody already knows the single best way to get out of an RNC is to hit the assailant full speed with your car. Nobody can maintain an RNC after being crushed by 3 tons of steel going 85-90mph. It's such an effective counter that it doesn't even matter what kind of car you prefer to drive. Even a Yugo or a Saturn Vue going 80 has enough force on impact to end the submission attempt once it makes contact with your assailant.

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02-13-2011, 03:40 PM	#109
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	I'm lost this is about choke holds? My question is why you never see real karate in UFC fighting where is the bruce lee's and chuck's?