Should I charge more then $10 per banner? - GoFuckYourself.com

dropped9 · 09-27-2007, 09:46 AM

Ive been told that my skills have been increasing and I should really start charging more then $10 per banner. Do you think so? Ive always like the 10 per banner because it opened the door to many more customers for me.

Would $15 be too much of a raise? How about 12?

Some recent banners ive done are below:

GAMEFINEST · 09-27-2007, 09:53 AM

The customers you have bought banners from you shd get the 10.00 hookup for life..

dropped9 · 09-27-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

The customers you have bought banners from you shd get the 10.00 hookup for life..

Me love you long time...

GeXus · 09-27-2007, 09:59 AM

10... 15? It's 5 bucks... i don't imagine that's enough to deter anyone. You could always offer a bulk rate

Twisted Dave · 09-27-2007, 10:44 AM

In all honesty, yes you should be charging more. Not everyone can create banners that a) look good... b) catch the viewers eye... and c) make them wanna click.

I mean ... I don't know much about your work but it generally seems quite good ... $10 ... I mean ... seriously, over here, McDonalds pay more per hour and I think you should be charging based on the fact that you're a creative skilled person. You're charging for your time... but you should charge for your skill too ...

Dirty F · 09-27-2007, 10:55 AM

Uhm no. Those arent designs or anything. Its some letters on a ready to go pic. Im far from a designer and i can make those in 5 mins.

You could charge more if you would design the full banner (assuming you can) but these i wouldnt pay 10 bucks for even.

dropped9 · 09-27-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Uhm no. Those arent designs or anything. Its some letters on a ready to go pic. Im far from a designer and i can make those in 5 mins.

Go for it then...

Starting now...

1:56

dropped9 · 09-27-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Headless

Go for it then...

Starting now...

1:56

So sorry 5 minutes up....

guess you couldnt

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-27-2007, 11:20 AM

I would go two rates

10 bucks for statics, 15 for animated.

Also price by size or you will end up doing half page ad's for 10 bucks.
Speaking of which expand your horizons a little and move into 1/2 page ad's

Your quality in design has definatly picked up dude goto new levels with it.

Dirty F · 09-27-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Headless

So sorry 5 minutes up....

guess you couldnt

Do you feel attacked or something? You ask for an opinion i give you a honest one without bashing you and you get annoyed?

Funny.

Dont ask for opinions if you cant handle them.

dropped9 · 09-27-2007, 11:42 AM

Cant handle them? You said you could make a banner like that in 5 minutes... so I said go for it...

phasic · 09-27-2007, 11:42 AM

Can I see some more work? Hit me up interested.

Dirty F · 09-27-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Headless

Cant handle them? You said you could make a banner like that in 5 minutes... so I said go for it...

Give it up man, we can all read past that.

It annoyed you what i said.

DamageX · 09-27-2007, 11:47 AM

Supply and demand.

Deej · 09-27-2007, 11:49 AM

Heres what I started to consider when I sold banners or any design really.

Screw trying to make the price sound good for the client. You will only hurt yourself in the end.. Dont get me wrong, be fair. but dont put yourself out to satisfy the demand.

Theres a few things to consider. Skill and who can do this these days. Your hardware. What computer are you running? Did you just buy it? Did you buy it for your work? Then your software. Did you buy your Photoshop? I know I did and for anyone that has... Its fucking A expensive. I use fireworks for animated banners... theres another program.. (it came with my MX suite) also expensive... Time... how much time does it take you? Franck cannot make that banner in 5 minutes... half hour maybe...

Lets not get into flash and movie trailers...

The cost of good honest webmastering is rising... dont short yourself... and keep it real... in the end if you do both... you will have happy return clientele ...

dropped9 · 09-27-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Give it up man, we can all read past that.

It annoyed you what i said.

Not really.

CDSmith · 09-27-2007, 12:04 PM

A client buying ad space a few months ago also wanted new creatives made for his site. I charged him $75 for:

1 static standard-sized banner
1 animated over-sized banner
1 animated button

And that's my "with ad package" rate. If he was buying just the graphics it would have been $100 bucks. Some of those banners are made of blendings of 2, 3 sometimes 4 different other images or photos.

And as far as I've ever known of it, most local web design houses charge $65/hr and up for graphics creation.

However, if you can bang out a decent banner in 10 minutes, then I suppose selling them for ten bucks apiece isn't raping yourself. I may be stuck in 5-year-ago mode, but I won't work for peanuts. Same with gallery designs, some guys sell them for next to nothing. I'll do 6 for $150, and that's as low as it gets with me.

I'm not a fulltime designer but I've done and sold my share of work over the years.

The Other Steve · 09-27-2007, 12:32 PM

Headless could you please hit me up on ICQ - I've been trying to contact you but my ICQ doesn't want to talk to yours. Hopefully it might work the other way.

Sosa · 09-27-2007, 12:34 PM

headles I like your work, and will need 3-4 more banners from you at the first of the month. I'll hit you up at the beginning of the week

polish_aristocrat · 09-27-2007, 12:40 PM

nice banners

Ditosta · 09-27-2007, 12:45 PM

I agree you should raise your prices but keep regular customers who have bought from you b4 at 10 bucks for life!

axelez · 09-27-2007, 01:22 PM

cool banners

candyflip · 09-27-2007, 02:55 PM

There are a few designers on here doing great banners and charge less than you. I'm not sure what your bulk rate is, but they're asking $599 for 100 static and/or animated.

If you're going to up your prices, start by raising it on all those clients you have who said you should raise them.

Dirty F · 09-27-2007, 03:07 PM

I really dont want to bash Headless here but i dont understand why people say he could charge more. Yes they are nice but look at it. Its 4 different pictures with the same text on them. Some of you are saying thats worth 60 bucks...

Seriously, thats retarded. Anybody with basic photoshop skills can make these in a few mins. And even better, after you made the first one which takes 5 mins the other 3 can be done in 2 mins each roughly.

I bet Headless can make some nice things but i dont consider these banners designs and i also dont think hes worth 60 bucks per 10 mins.

ridikuloz · 09-27-2007, 03:09 PM

charge whatever the customer would pay at most. if they lowball, bargain with em/

candyflip · 09-27-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

I really dont want to bash Headless here but i dont understand why people say he could charge more. Yes they are nice but look at it. Its 4 different pictures with the same text on them. Some of you are saying thats worth 60 bucks...

Seriously, thats retarded. Anybody with basic photoshop skills can make these in a few mins. And even better, after you made the first one which takes 5 mins the other 3 can be done in 2 mins each roughly.

I bet Headless can make some nice things but i dont consider these banners designs and i also dont think hes worth 60 bucks per 10 mins.

You're not too far off, but like you said anyone with some basic knowledge of photoshop could do that. I'd venture to guess most people are clueless inside photoshop. I use it a bit less regularly than I have in the past these days, but I still learn something new or how to do something a different way all the time.

If what he's charging works for someone who doesn't know or can't...more power to headless. If wouldn't work for you or I, so we just don't put his services to use. Simple as that.

If they were cheaper or I didn't have to buy 100 at a time, I would be paying and not doing them all myself.

BAKO · 09-27-2007, 03:35 PM

good work

Dirty F · 09-27-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Bako

good work

You couldnt do that yourself?

Emil · 09-27-2007, 03:42 PM

I would never pay $10/banner for something like that. You can probably make 10 banners like that in one hour. $100/hour isn't bad at all.

Chroma · 09-27-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Emil

I would never pay $10/banner for something like that. You can probably make 10 banners like that in one hour. $100/hour isn't bad at all.

He said he could make 12 in an hour.

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Uhm no. Those arent designs or anything. Its some letters on a ready to go pic. Im far from a designer and i can make those in 5 mins.

You could charge more if you would design the full banner (assuming you can) but these i wouldnt pay 10 bucks for even.

Tempest · 09-27-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Supply and demand.

What he said...

Dirty F · 09-28-2007, 10:22 AM

So what are you gonna do?

rolfodolfo · 09-28-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GeXus

10... 15? It's 5 bucks... i don't imagine that's enough to deter anyone. You could always offer a bulk rate

Bulk is

xclusive · 09-28-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I would go two rates

10 bucks for statics, 15 for animated.

Also price by size or you will end up doing half page ad's for 10 bucks.
Speaking of which expand your horizons a little and move into 1/2 page ad's

Your quality in design has definatly picked up dude goto new levels with it.

Fuck me, I agree with AlienQ I have to go slit my wrist now. But before I do this is good advice from Alien

BAKO · 09-28-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

You couldnt do that yourself?

Fuck yeah i can, i designed like thousand AVS sites back in my days

BAKO · 09-28-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

So what are you gonna do?

I love it how you pump people up

Dirty F · 09-28-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Bako

I love it how you pump people up

Deej · 09-28-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Franck is a Sexy Stud!

teg0 · 09-28-2007, 12:51 PM

depends on how much time you spend on them

DamageX · 09-29-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by teg0

depends on how much time you spend on them

That's not true at all, it mostly depends on the going rate in the market, overall, for similar work, the competition, and how much the clients are willing to pay. No client's gonna give a flying fuck about how long you spend on them, as long as they get their orders delivered on time.

peterk · 09-29-2007, 01:39 PM

Nice Work. My advice is to keep the same price until you will get too much clients, then raise the price for the new ones

dropped9 · 09-29-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

So what are you gonna do?

Like my response to you matters. You are just going to bash me anyway.

Dirty F · 09-29-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Headless

Like my response to you matters. You are just going to bash me anyway.

So you lied to me before. You did consider it me bashing you. Hmm, weird.

So where did i bash you exactly? Show me.

You asked for opinions and i gave you one. How is that bashing?

Deej · 09-29-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

So you lied to me before. You did consider it me bashing you. Hmm, weird.

So where did i bash you exactly? Show me.

You asked for opinions and i gave you one. How is that bashing?

Bash...

I see no party...

passive aggressive harassment...

A very warm guess...

bumping threads to increase views and gain potential clients for said banner making...

absolutely!

I like streudels !

BAKO · 09-29-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Headless

Like my response to you matters. You are just going to bash me anyway.

Its not a Bash its a pump, you're to slow to notice

Jakenavaro · 09-29-2007, 05:38 PM

i can make 12 dollars per banner like that, if you have a question about seo,programming,developing,chamellion ubmission,manual submission,tgp,mgp,corporate design. email me at [email protected] so ican give you my icq or ym

garybrooks · 09-29-2007, 06:17 PM

Im sure the man can do better with a little more time invested. I think you should put some thought into your price structure.

mightyjoe · 09-29-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

You're not too far off, but like you said anyone with some basic knowledge of photoshop could do that. I'd venture to guess most people are clueless inside photoshop. I use it a bit less regularly than I have in the past these days, but I still learn something new or how to do something a different way all the time.

If what he's charging works for someone who doesn't know or can't...more power to headless. If wouldn't work for you or I, so we just don't put his services to use. Simple as that.

If they were cheaper or I didn't have to buy 100 at a time, I would be paying and not doing them all myself.

so you cant photoshop?

is that the reason why you steal flecthxxx galleries?

dropped9 · 09-29-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

So you lied to me before. You did consider it me bashing you. Hmm, weird.

So where did i bash you exactly? Show me.

You asked for opinions and i gave you one. How is that bashing?

I lied about nothing. You asked me if you were getting under my skin and I said no.

Try again.

dropped9 · 09-29-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

I really dont want to bash Headless here but i dont understand why people say he could charge more. Yes they are nice but look at it. Its 4 different pictures with the same text on them. Some of you are saying thats worth 60 bucks...

Seriously, thats retarded. Anybody with basic photoshop skills can make these in a few mins. And even better, after you made the first one which takes 5 mins the other 3 can be done in 2 mins each roughly.

I bet Headless can make some nice things but i dont consider these banners designs and i also dont think hes worth 60 bucks per 10 mins.

That statement is ridiculous. It's like saying anyone with a camera could be a photographer. You have no idea what raw material I was given to work with, where the pictures came from, or anything else for that matter.

It's very ignorant to assume one can do things in 10 minutes or less when they know nothing about the subject.

09-27-2007, 09:46 AM	#1
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	Should I charge more then $10 per banner? Ive been told that my skills have been increasing and I should really start charging more then $10 per banner. Do you think so? Ive always like the 10 per banner because it opened the door to many more customers for me. Would $15 be too much of a raise? How about 12? Some recent banners ive done are below:

09-27-2007, 09:53 AM	#2
GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,418	The customers you have bought banners from you shd get the 10.00 hookup for life.. __________________ Compound interest.

09-27-2007, 09:59 AM	#4
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09-27-2007, 10:44 AM	#5
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	In all honesty, yes you should be charging more. Not everyone can create banners that a) look good... b) catch the viewers eye... and c) make them wanna click. I mean ... I don't know much about your work but it generally seems quite good ... $10 ... I mean ... seriously, over here, McDonalds pay more per hour and I think you should be charging based on the fact that you're a creative skilled person. You're charging for your time... but you should charge for your skill too ... __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

09-27-2007, 11:20 AM	#9
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09-27-2007, 10:55 AM	#6
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Uhm no. Those arent designs or anything. Its some letters on a ready to go pic. Im far from a designer and i can make those in 5 mins. You could charge more if you would design the full banner (assuming you can) but these i wouldnt pay 10 bucks for even.

09-27-2007, 11:42 AM	#11
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	Cant handle them? You said you could make a banner like that in 5 minutes... so I said go for it...

09-27-2007, 11:42 AM	#12
phasic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Posts: 2,104	Can I see some more work? Hit me up interested. __________________ Brief revisit. (mic drop)

09-27-2007, 11:47 AM	#14
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09-27-2007, 11:49 AM	#15
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Heres what I started to consider when I sold banners or any design really. Screw trying to make the price sound good for the client. You will only hurt yourself in the end.. Dont get me wrong, be fair. but dont put yourself out to satisfy the demand. Theres a few things to consider. Skill and who can do this these days. Your hardware. What computer are you running? Did you just buy it? Did you buy it for your work? Then your software. Did you buy your Photoshop? I know I did and for anyone that has... Its fucking A expensive. I use fireworks for animated banners... theres another program.. (it came with my MX suite) also expensive... Time... how much time does it take you? Franck cannot make that banner in 5 minutes... half hour maybe... Lets not get into flash and movie trailers... The cost of good honest webmastering is rising... dont short yourself... and keep it real... in the end if you do both... you will have happy return clientele ... __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

09-27-2007, 12:04 PM	#17
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	A client buying ad space a few months ago also wanted new creatives made for his site. I charged him $75 for: 1 static standard-sized banner 1 animated over-sized banner 1 animated button And that's my "with ad package" rate. If he was buying just the graphics it would have been $100 bucks. Some of those banners are made of blendings of 2, 3 sometimes 4 different other images or photos. And as far as I've ever known of it, most local web design houses charge $65/hr and up for graphics creation. However, if you can bang out a decent banner in 10 minutes, then I suppose selling them for ten bucks apiece isn't raping yourself. I may be stuck in 5-year-ago mode, but I won't work for peanuts. Same with gallery designs, some guys sell them for next to nothing. I'll do 6 for $150, and that's as low as it gets with me. I'm not a fulltime designer but I've done and sold my share of work over the years. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

09-27-2007, 12:32 PM	#18
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Headless could you please hit me up on ICQ - I've been trying to contact you but my ICQ doesn't want to talk to yours. Hopefully it might work the other way. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

09-27-2007, 12:34 PM	#19
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	headles I like your work, and will need 3-4 more banners from you at the first of the month. I'll hit you up at the beginning of the week

09-27-2007, 12:40 PM	#20
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	nice banners __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-27-2007, 12:45 PM	#21
Ditosta Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: http://www.neonasty.com Posts: 2,107	I agree you should raise your prices but keep regular customers who have bought from you b4 at 10 bucks for life! __________________ 306213883 New Pantyhose Fetish Model LilyDouce.com Rhinopays.com

09-27-2007, 01:22 PM	#22
axelez Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 121	cool banners __________________ Keep the hookers just give me the blow

09-27-2007, 02:55 PM	#23
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	There are a few designers on here doing great banners and charge less than you. I'm not sure what your bulk rate is, but they're asking $599 for 100 static and/or animated. If you're going to up your prices, start by raising it on all those clients you have who said you should raise them. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-27-2007, 03:07 PM	#24
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I really dont want to bash Headless here but i dont understand why people say he could charge more. Yes they are nice but look at it. Its 4 different pictures with the same text on them. Some of you are saying thats worth 60 bucks... Seriously, thats retarded. Anybody with basic photoshop skills can make these in a few mins. And even better, after you made the first one which takes 5 mins the other 3 can be done in 2 mins each roughly. I bet Headless can make some nice things but i dont consider these banners designs and i also dont think hes worth 60 bucks per 10 mins.

09-27-2007, 03:09 PM	#25
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09-27-2007, 03:42 PM	#29
Emil Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,623	I would never pay $10/banner for something like that. You can probably make 10 banners like that in one hour. $100/hour isn't bad at all. __________________ Free 🅑🅘🅣🅒🅞🅘🅝🅢 Every Hour (Yes, really. Free ₿itCoins.) (Signup with ONLY your Email and Password. You can also refer people and get even more.)

09-28-2007, 10:22 AM	#32
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	So what are you gonna do?

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09-29-2007, 01:39 PM	#41
peterk Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,529	Nice Work. My advice is to keep the same price until you will get too much clients, then raise the price for the new ones __________________ Bogat mama ala cu loturi de trafic

09-29-2007, 05:38 PM	#46
Jakenavaro Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 285	i can make 12 dollars per banner like that, if you have a question about seo,programming,developing,chamellion ubmission,manual submission,tgp,mgp,corporate design. email me at [email protected] so ican give you my icq or ym

09-29-2007, 06:17 PM	#47
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