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Old 07-16-2011, 03:26 PM   #1
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As Obama Threatens To Withold Social Security Checks From Grandmothers....

...........he's going to have a big-assed birthday party for himself on what could be USA DEFAULT DAY!

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/B...mo_code=C9EC-1

"Obama Plans Pricey Birthday Bash on Default Day

Saturday, July 16, 2011 01:25 PM

By: Martin Gould and Abigail Walls

As America?s poorest wait for Social Security checks that may never come on Aug. 3, President Barack Obama will be out celebrating a milestone birthday at a party where tickets cost up to $35,800 each.

Obama has chosen the first day of the potential default to throw his 50th birthday bash, combining it with raising money for next year?s Barack Obama, Birthday, Debt Ceilingelection. His actual birthday is Aug. 4.

Republicans are slamming the decision to have the party as ?insensitive.?

?This really shows how unserious he is,? Republican Rep. Joe Walsh, a fellow Chicagoan, tells Newsmax exclusively. ?I realize it?s his birthday, but he is a president who has said he doesn?t know if social security checks will go out that day.

?If that?s the case, I cannot believe he will be having a big party that very day.?

Obama said on Tuesday that he cannot guarantee that social security checks will go out from August 3 unless a deal can be reached on raising the nation?s $14.3 trillion debt limit. ?There may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it,? he told CBS? Scott Pelley.

Unless the deal is reached, government services across the board will be cut and in many cases closed down.

?My first thought was that he will have to fly to Chicago before the third because I can?t imagine airports will be open,? said Walsh. ?And he?ll have to have a huge supply of candles because the lights are going to go out.

?I am amazed he will be able to have a party at all.?

Walsh said he hopes to be in Chicago on Aug. 3 himself to be with his family in case the calamity that Obama has warned about comes to fruition. ?I just doubt I?ll get an invitation to the party,? he said.

Oscar winner Jennifer Hudson is expected to perform at the birthday bash at the historic Aragon Ballroom in Chicago. The event will be one of the president?s biggest fundraisers of the year. Publicity literature featuring a red, white and blue Happy Birthday logo has already been produced.

The event will be ?multi-tiered,? the Chicago Sun-Times reported. The Hudson concert would cost $50; admission to the party $200; a premium seat $1,000; a souvenir photo with the president $10,000; and VIP seating and dinner with Obama $38,500.

Another GOP Congressman, Louie Gohmert of Texas was incredulous about the timing. ?That?d be as crazy as setting up golf games in the middle of going after Osama bin Laden,? he said. ?I?m sure he wouldn?t do something like that ? or maybe he would.?

Obama has been leading contentious talks all week with leaders of both parties in the House and Senate to avoid the August 2 deadline. On Friday he warned of financial ?Armageddon? if a deal cannot be reached."

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Nice spin as usual ....

Sure he should send the checks out, and lick the stamp as well ... and watch it bounce back to China ...

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Sally, your spin on this may go down as one of the worst spins in history

Joe Walsh is just showing how fucked up the Republicans are to the point that they would let the whole country go down the tubes just to save a few tax cuts to the very rich and then try to play politics and blame the Pres.

If Americans buy that bull shit while the republicans want to take more from what little the poor and elderly get...then they deserve to get what is going to happen to them in 2012 when all this bullshit fucks them seriously up the ass
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Sally, your spin on this may go down as one of the worst spins in history

Joe Walsh is just showing how fucked up the Republicans are to the point that they would let the whole country go down the tubes just to save a few tax cuts to the very rich and then try to play politics and blame the Pres.

If Americans buy that bull shit while the republicans want to take more from what little the poor and elderly get...then they deserve to get what is going to happen to them in 2012 when all this bullshit fucks them seriously up the ass
Congratulations hank, you've just shown a first grader's grasp on the difference between the left and the right. I truly enjoy reading about how the Republicans want to protect the rich while the Democrats want to protect the poor. Also, way to show your understanding at the debt ceiling and tax cuts issue. Classic post.
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Sally, your spin on this may go down as one of the worst spins in history

Joe Walsh is just showing how fucked up the Republicans are to the point that they would let the whole country go down the tubes just to save a few tax cuts to the very rich and then try to play politics and blame the Pres.

If Americans buy that bull shit while the republicans want to take more from what little the poor and elderly get...then they deserve to get what is going to happen to them in 2012 when all this bullshit fucks them seriously up the ass
"Spin"?

Bet me motherfucker!

In The Chosen One's own words!:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...89-503544.html

"President Obama on Tuesday said he cannot guarantee that retirees will receive their Social Security checks August 3 if Democrats and Republicans in Washington do not reach an agreement on reducing the deficit in the coming weeks.

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News."

He can fund THREE wars plus the War On The American People, formerly known as "The War On Drugs" but THREATENS SOCIAL SECURITY?

People have been PAYING into Social Security for years so that things like this would NOT happen!

Impeach Obama now, bring the troops home, stop the wars, re-elect no one and start over.


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If SS checks do not go out on schedule, every congressman and high-level elected official should be effectively fired. Every last one of them.
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why do you think its just obama? its bullshit that the government is holding peoples money hostage. it should never be stopped if you dont pay taxes on time they turn on your ass quick. fight the power!
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...........he's going to have a big-assed birthday party for himself on what could be USA DEFAULT DAY!

blah blah blah
Why is it that every one of your political posts is about trashing Obama? The republicans control the congress.. The congress is the one that would passes the bill that raises the debt ceiling. Why is it you don't actually post shit blaming the ones that are really to blame? EVERY POLITICIAN FROM BOTH PARTIES.

Idiot.

By the way.. The US cannot default on any of it's debt.. The court has already ruled on that constitutional issue.. Which means, that spending on debt could continue regardless of the debt ceiling debacle.
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why do you think its just obama? its bullshit that the government is holding peoples money hostage. it should never be stopped if you dont pay taxes on time they turn on your ass quick. fight the power!
This whole possibility should actually be a kick in the ass for most people, making them realize that depending on SS for retirement is a terrible idea, but I doubt many will see that.
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The bottom line is pretty simple. If we don't raise the debt ceiling it is likely that somebody somewhere isn't going to get paid. That could be means seniors not getting social security. It could mean doctors not getting medicare payments. It could be military not getting their paychecks. It could be bondholders not being paid.

Obama is simply pointing out the situation that best suits him. This way he can stand in front of the people and say, "The republicans would rather seniors go hungry then millionaires pay a few more dollars in taxes on their private jets."

The republicans have painted themselves into a corner here and I think now they are just hoping that Obama. Blinks. He may. He has before. But if not they are going to come out looking pretty badly.
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This whole possibility should actually be a kick in the ass for most people, making them realize that depending on SS for retirement is a terrible idea, but I doubt many will see that.
this happens because the wages are not high enough. if you dont move higher than $16 an hour your whole life your in the social security check to check living.
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The bottom line is pretty simple. If we don't raise the debt ceiling it is likely that somebody somewhere isn't going to get paid. That could be means seniors not getting social security. It could mean doctors not getting medicare payments. It could be military not getting their paychecks. It could be bondholders not being paid.

Obama is simply pointing out the situation that best suits him. This way he can stand in front of the people and say, "The republicans would rather seniors go hungry then millionaires pay a few more dollars in taxes on their private jets."

The republicans have painted themselves into a corner here and I think now they are just hoping that Obama. Blinks. He may. He has before. But if not they are going to come out looking pretty badly.
Why does The Chosen One not stop the wars as he promised to do in the campaigns?

Why did he get us in yet another war in Libya?

Where is conressional approval for that war?
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Why is it that every one of your political posts is about trashing Obama? The republicans control the congress.. The congress is the one that would passes the bill that raises the debt ceiling. Why is it you don't actually post shit blaming the ones that are really to blame? EVERY POLITICIAN FROM BOTH PARTIES.

Idiot.

By the way.. The US cannot default on any of it's debt.. The court has already ruled on that constitutional issue.. Which means, that spending on debt could continue regardless of the debt ceiling debacle.
I do blame the politicians but OBAMA IS THE GUY AT THE DESK IN THE OVAL OFFICE!
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This whole possibility should actually be a kick in the ass for most people, making them realize that depending on SS for retirement is a terrible idea, but I doubt many will see that.
Granted but SS money should NEVER be used as a POLITICAL TOOL!
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Sally is worried about not getting his social security check. Read between the lines, people.

As for the party, he's rich, the people that are coming are rich. Get rich and you can go, too.
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OBAMA is THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

NOT George Bush, NOT Bill Clinton and CERTAINLY NOT Harry Truman.

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

Get it?
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I hope they all choke and die on their own vomit. Every last one of them.
I would happily watch and offer no assistance to their dying throes.

In fact, I'd run the cheering section!
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This whole possibility should actually be a kick in the ass for most people, making them realize that depending on SS for retirement is a terrible idea, but I doubt many will see that.
In theory you are correct. But there is a large group of people in the baby boomer generation who were never offered any kind of 401K or retirement through their job. Sure, they could have gone out and gotten their own IRA, but the reality is that Capitalism is a pyramid. The further down it you go the less those jobs pay and those people don't really have the means to set aside their own IRA.

The average wage in America is $16 per hour. At that wage you make around $30K per year pre tax. After all the taxes you will likely see around $23K per year. The average home price in the US is $180K.

So if the average wage earner buys the average home that will take up half of their take home pay. Add in a car (nothing fancy, just a car) food, utilities etc and the average wage earner is lucky to make ends meet.

Say that average person took 3% of their income and set it aside every year for their own retirement. Assuming they did this at age 20 and did it for 40 years at 2% interest (that is more than most savings/money market accounts offer) they would end up with about $45K in the bank. . . not much of a retirement. Say they were able to set aside 10% and invested it to get a 6% return annually and they never lost (meaning recessions like the one we have now never happen) that would give them about $440K. That is a whole hell of a lot better, but it would require that a lot of things went right for that person and that they were able to set aside 10% of their income.

I'm not making excuses for people, I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of people for whom this is reality and fixing that reality is a little more challenging than just saying so.
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I do blame the politicians but OBAMA IS THE GUY AT THE DESK IN THE OVAL OFFICE!
Wasn't aware that the president of the US controlled the budgets and money that is spent. Always thought it was the congress. In other words, unless Obama turns around and vetos a bill that congress passes, it's not him that's to blame for any of this.

The repub congress can pass a bill any time they want, with whatever they want in it.. Of course they might have a problem having the Senate pass it as well, but it could be done with some serious arm twisting.. At that point, it then becomes an issue of whether or not Obama would veto it and be the bad guy.

Didn't the repubs put a bill on the floor about this and then vote it down just so they could play politics with the issue? Did you make a post about that? About how they were playing games that could affect those on Social Security etc?
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OBAMA is THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

NOT George Bush, NOT Bill Clinton and CERTAINLY NOT Harry Truman.

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

Get it?
So why the teapublicans , on this forum, have claimed that Obama had nothing to do with the killing of OBL ????

As for the topic, take a look at pawlenty, Santori, Bachmann and the gang.... You need a video to see what Bohner says on the topic : " we picked the wrong fight ... " ...

If not for the teapublicans, the SS checks would go out, s they did 7 times under BUSH ...


As for the wars, I agrre 100 % : stop the wars ( but in 2003, it got me labelled as an american hater, a terrorist suporter .. and so on ... )
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Why does The Chosen One not stop the wars as he promised to do in the campaigns?

Why did he get us in yet another war in Libya?

Where is conressional approval for that war?
Tomorrow morning he could announce that we are ceasing action in libya and fully pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq and it would still cost billions of dollars. Moving all those people ins't cheap. Yes, it would eventually be cheaper than keeping them there another 5 years, but he is doing what he said he would. The draw down in Iraq is all but done and he has a plan to get us out of Afghanistan.

None of these things change what is happening with the debt ceiling. Again, he could end all the wars tomorrow and we would still need to raise the debt ceiling.

If nobody blinks and we default Obama is trying to put himself in a position where he can step aside and let the whole shit storm land in the republicans laps.
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STFU you dumb twat. Obama isn't threatining anything. We could have this deal done already if the stupid ass republicans would agree to a SMALL increase in the taxes on millionaires and billionaires. atax cut they shouldn't have gotten in the first place.
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STFU you dumb twat. Obama isn't threatining anything. We could have this deal done already if the stupid ass republicans would agree to a SMALL increase in the taxes on millionaires and billionaires. atax cut they shouldn't have gotten in the first place.
As usual, you are a simple minded buffoon.
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How is he threatening to withhold checks? He said that if the republicans don't vote to raise the debt ceiling, there won't be the money to send them out. That's self evident.


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How is he threatening to withhold checks? He said that if the republicans don't vote to raise the debt ceiling, there won't be the money to send them out. That's self evident.


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How is he threatening to withhold checks? He said that if the republicans don't vote to raise the debt ceiling, there won't be the money to send them out. That's self evident.


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He is a lying sack of shit, There is plenty of money there for SS.

NOTE:

THE CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE WHITE HOUSE DID NOT SAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO STOP THE WARS!

HE SAID THAT HE WOULD PUNISH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED THE GOVERNMENT IF HE DID NOT GET HIS WAY!

NOT ONE WORD ABOUT WAR FUNDING!
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Am I just living in bizarro world?

Raising the "debt ceiling"? Everytime I hear that on television I just shake my head.

Let me put this in real life terms...I go out and spend tons of money and buy everything on credit. Now...it's time to pay the credit card. But instead of STOPPING SPENDING ON MORE SHIT AND PAYING MY BILLS, instead I KEEP SPENDING EVEN MORE! And then I BORROW MORE TO PAY THE INTEREST ON MY DEBT.

Am I the only one who finds this entire thing insane? Shouldn't we STOP spending immediately on stupid shit (like all the wars and our military in over 100 countries) and redirect our tax revenues towards...PAYING THE FUCKING DEBT????

I know if any of us tried this shit in real life it would never fly.

I hear the republicans fighting with the democrats and they are "getting close" to cutting 4 trillion dollars in spending...OVER TEN FUCKING YEARS!!!

They need to cut 4 trillion dollars TODAY. And even that won't cover it.

Does anybody in Washington D.C. know simple mathematics???
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How is he threatening to withhold checks? He said that if the republicans don't vote to raise the debt ceiling, there won't be the money to send them out. That's self evident.


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Quit injecting LOGIC into this discussion. I find it ironic that people that want the government to stop spending money it doesn't have are now mad that the government will have to stop sending out SS checks because it won't have the money to do so. Isn't that what they want? For the government to stop spending once it runs out of money?

I also find it ironic that most teabaggers get SS and medicare( so they don't want that cut ) don't want to raise taxes on the rich, don't want to cut military spending ( it's anti-troops ) and yet somehow expects the budget to be balanced. Maybe some math genius can expalin how that will work.
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Am I just living in bizarro world?

Raising the "debt ceiling"? Everytime I hear that on television I just shake my head.

Let me put this in real life terms...I go out and spend tons of money and buy everything on credit. Now...it's time to pay the credit card. But instead of STOPPING SPENDING ON MORE SHIT AND PAYING MY BILLS, instead I KEEP SPENDING EVEN MORE! And then I BORROW MORE TO PAY THE INTEREST ON MY DEBT.

Am I the only one who finds this entire thing insane? Shouldn't we STOP spending immediately on stupid shit (like all the wars and our military in over 100 countries) and redirect our tax revenues towards...PAYING THE FUCKING DEBT????

I know if any of us tried this shit in real life it would never fly.

I hear the republicans fighting with the democrats and they are "getting close" to cutting 4 trillion dollars in spending...OVER TEN FUCKING YEARS!!!

They need to cut 4 trillion dollars TODAY. And even that won't cover it.

Does anybody in Washington D.C. know simple mathematics???


the US is like the black guy that lives in govt subsidized housing yet drives a brand new $50,000 cadillac..

you dont raise the debt ceiling, you cut back on your expenses...

the US is a fucking joke..

how can you tell people they need to be responsible with their debt, when the country cant control its on spending...






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just dissolve the government already and let corporations finally complete their dominance of every aspect of our lives and psyche.
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Am I just living in bizarro world?

Raising the "debt ceiling"? Everytime I hear that on television I just shake my head.

Let me put this in real life terms...I go out and spend tons of money and buy everything on credit. Now...it's time to pay the credit card. But instead of STOPPING SPENDING ON MORE SHIT AND PAYING MY BILLS, instead I KEEP SPENDING EVEN MORE! And then I BORROW MORE TO PAY THE INTEREST ON MY DEBT.

Am I the only one who finds this entire thing insane? Shouldn't we STOP spending immediately on stupid shit (like all the wars and our military in over 100 countries) and redirect our tax revenues towards...PAYING THE FUCKING DEBT????

I know if any of us tried this shit in real life it would never fly.

I hear the republicans fighting with the democrats and they are "getting close" to cutting 4 trillion dollars in spending...OVER TEN FUCKING YEARS!!!

They need to cut 4 trillion dollars TODAY. And even that won't cover it.

Does anybody in Washington D.C. know simple mathematics???
The thing is if you stop spending TODAY then nothing gets paid for. So our soldiers don't get checks. SS recipents don't get checks. Doctors don't get their medicare payments so then they'll stop seeing medicare patients. Government employees don't get paid. etc etc In real life even if your in debt you still have to fucking eat or you die so no you're not going to stop spending in real life either.
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the US is like the black guy that lives in govt subsidized housing yet drives a brand new $50,000 cadillac..

you dont raise the debt ceiling, you cut back on your expenses...

the US is a fucking joke..

how can you tell people they need to be responsible with their debt, when the country cant control its on spending...
Use math moron. Do you want everything to go unpaid for for the next 6 months? Do you want everything to just stop for 6 months? yeah that'll help things. Also all you math geniuses ever actually look at a budget. Please share me how you cut it. BE SPECIFIC.
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The thing is if you stop spending TODAY then nothing gets paid for. So our soldiers don't get checks. SS recipents don't get checks. Doctors don't get their medicare payments so then they'll stop seeing medicare patients. Government employees don't get paid. etc etc In real life even if your in debt you still have to fucking eat or you die so no you're not going to stop spending in real life either.

NO!

YOU STOP SPENDING FOR WARS!

The last full-time war-based economy was NAZI GERMANY!

How'd THAT work out?

H.OBAMA DID NOT SAY THAT HE WOULD CUT WAR SPENDING!

HE SAID HE WOULD FUCK SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS!

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

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H.OBAMA DID NOT SAY THAT HE WOULD CUT WAR SPENDING!

HE SAID HE WOULD FUCK SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS!

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
You're such a moron... In that interview he was asked directly about whether SS cheques would go out and he was answering that question. Really.. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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You're such a moron... In that interview he was asked directly about whether SS cheques would go out and he was answering that question. Really.. What the fuck is wrong with you?
You write "cheques", so therefore you are NOT from the USA!

Why do you not SHUT THE FUCK UP!

The Chosen One is NOT YOUR PRESIDENT!

The only reason that your country exists as a semi-independent nation is that the US FUCKING A borders it to the South.

Your fucking navy even uses SURPLUS US warships!

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