an open plea on WHY should you vote for us! - GoFuckYourself.com

harvey · 08-26-2011, 12:54 PM

yes, myself and my crew are a bunch of turds who don't use ICQ and lack social skills. We're also pretty busy to play the PR game, so we're on a lose-lose situation to that respect.

THUS....

1 - Not even our own clients who use us every day are voting us

2 - Not even the people we have helped for free voted for us
3 - People for which we had made millions of dollars admitted they voted someone else that didn't made them a cent because... they were asked to (damn social skills

)

THEREFORE....

Although we're in pretty good company with the best design companies in the industry (I almost feel embarrassed to get my votes than Dickmans or Adult Design), we could really use some votes. Not only because we would obviously like to be recognized by the community to which we gave so much (and we got a lot in return as well

) but also because, like many people know, I'm a fan of design. I might not be the best, but I love it. I breathe it. It's what I chose to do despite what I studied, it's in my mind every single minute of the day. Many people knows how I always stood for designers, explained them how to improve, how to defend themselves, how to get respect. It's my passion.

With all my limitations, and those of my team, we always strive to get better and better, and when we could, we were among the first to innovate in adult (CSS only, AJAX, WP CMS, adaptive design, HTML5, JQuery tools, etc). It takes a lot of time=money to do so, but like I said, it's my passion, a passion that I'm happy to say it's contagious to my team. Many people knows that we even worked way above what we were asked for just because of our pride and passion, just because we felt it could be done better.

And like most of you know, I'm a very honest person, which is more a problem than a quality, but I can't and won't change at this point of my life. And in all honesty, it really hurts that this community and this industry is choosing outsourcing companies over the design companies that molded this industry, for bad or for good, what it takes

I know that the "troll herds" like to have fun and this post may hurt us more than what it will help. So be it. I see people voting for Fatfoo or ban Eric or Theo, so it's not that I don't know how things work.

But I never asked for anything here, so this time I'd like to invite you to vote for us . We are passionate about what we do and would like you to share that passion with us

We lack social skills. My ICQ works from time to time. But I honestly think we deserve your vote for DESIGN company

TubeSubmitters · 08-26-2011, 01:30 PM

Launch that cms already and you'd get my vote

harvey · 08-26-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bengtarne

Launch that cms already and you'd get my vote

it's launched and working on several sites, so go vote now!

TubeSubmitters · 08-26-2011, 01:38 PM

Can't see it on your website, where is it and how much is it?

halfpint · 08-26-2011, 01:42 PM

Pay me $1000 and I will vote for you

The Porn Nerd · 08-26-2011, 02:03 PM

Well I think I voted once already and apparently GFY won't let me vote AGAIN otherwise I would vote for Thee, Sir Harvey. I voted for Zuzana only because she was the only one in the list I actually employed once, for a gallery design.

But hey, it's hard for us cartoon characters to get respect. LOL
I would say: use this 1st Annual GFY Awards as a Lesson Learned. NEXT year begin your PR campaign a month or so before the voting opens.....

You could always design a killer 'Vote For Me' website and put the link in your sig.....LOL

But honestly, you've been here 10+ years, still posting (and still making sense) so that should be reward enough. LOL I'm sure you got a T-Shirt at some point, too....(I never did!)

Lastly, boycotting said GFY AWards, in protest, by staying in, curling up on the couch with the comfort food of your choice and watching a Beatles marathon is a good way to say GFY to GFY AWards! Kinda like I do every year during the Oscars since I'm mysteriously never nominated....

CamTraffic · 08-26-2011, 02:04 PM

never used your services
you make wordpress themes?

harvey · 08-26-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bengtarne

Can't see it on your website, where is it and how much is it?

we'll make an "official" launch next week or so, since we're getting many requests for it. Since it's the most customizable CMS in the market we're working right now on regular versions, network versions, adaptive versions, waiting on confirmation of mobile network and so on, so we don't have a real hurry to launch, people is already buying it.

The thing is that this won't be a theme, we call it an Inner Collaborative Environment since it works sort of an "inner cloud". To better illustrate it, let's say you like to cook, and you have all kind of ingredients. To make a cake, you'll use only flour, sugar, milk but to make a BBQ you'll use meat and for a hotdog you'll use a bun and a sausage. Our system works the same way: it delivers only what's needed, but the beauty of it is it have 10 or 20x times more features than the most modern CMS built to date, so you can cherry pick how to build your site, which features to use and deliver them automatically based on many factors: markup, browser, device, visitor status, etc. hell, if we want we could even deliver content by time of the day (can't figure why would we do that, but we can do it)

Also, the newer versions are 100% modular. This means that you can take blocks and mix and match to build your own themes. Thus, the latest index page we built has, LITERALLY, 52 lines of FULLY COMMENTED code

But the beauty of this is SPEED. I mean, like in UP TO 100x FASTER encoding. You can build an entire site with 100 scenes and many different video versions (more than any other existing CMS) in 10-12 hours. Not exaggerating, it's as fast as that. Of course, it depends on teh video length and your server specs, but to give you an example, a 760px DivX 380Mb video in 5 different formats (mp4, wmv, flv, qt, mp4 smaller size + all thumbnails) takes us 3-4 minutes to build in the cheapest Amerinoc VPS

The thing about price is that we won't probably launch it as a package, but an adaptive environment consisting of the features you need, some free themes and the choice of having us customizing your site/network, so if you need more, you'll pay more, but if you need a few features, you'll pay less, so all price structures will be dynamic as well, but full network versions will be more affordable than any other script with network capabilities, so if you know about prices of other scripts you'll more or less find out what it will cost

I won't post samples in public until it's launched, but feel free to contact me if you want to see it working

harvey · 08-26-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Well I think I voted once already and apparently GFY won't let me vote AGAIN otherwise I would vote for Thee, Sir Harvey. I voted for Zuzana only because she was the only one in the list I actually employed once, for a gallery design.

But hey, it's hard for us cartoon characters to get respect. LOL
I would say: use this 1st Annual GFY Awards as a Lesson Learned. NEXT year begin your PR campaign a month or so before the voting opens.....

You could always design a killer 'Vote For Me' website and put the link in your sig.....LOL

But honestly, you've been here 10+ years, still posting (and still making sense) so that should be reward enough. LOL I'm sure you got a T-Shirt at some point, too....(I never did!)

Lastly, boycotting said GFY AWards, in protest, by staying in, curling up on the couch with the comfort food of your choice and watching a Beatles marathon is a good way to say GFY to GFY AWards! Kinda like I do every year during the Oscars since I'm mysteriously never nominated....

I never got a T-shirt

harvey · 08-26-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

never used your services
you make wordpress themes?

I like to think so

TubeSubmitters · 08-26-2011, 02:50 PM

Ok I voted already!

gleem · 08-26-2011, 02:53 PM

Stop posting here on GFY and finish my designs!

(maybe I'll vote for you then)

RyuLion · 08-26-2011, 02:53 PM

btw - Harvey, I know what you really look like..
lol

Brujah · 08-26-2011, 03:01 PM

I went here and voted for you (FDSign).
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1034831

Why? You do amazing design -and- wordpress work and I've always been a fan. I'm looking forward to seeing that CMS you've got.

My Pimp · 08-26-2011, 03:11 PM

Outscourcing design is very cheap. You would be suprised.

harvey · 08-26-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

Stop posting here on GFY and finish my designs!

(maybe I'll vote for you then)

I'm working on it right now, lol

Juicy D. Links · 08-26-2011, 03:12 PM

i can vote 89 times for you through each of my nicks

harvey · 08-26-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

btw - Harvey, I know what you really look like..
lol

I'm sexy, tell Juicy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

I went here and voted for you (FDSign).
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1034831

Why? You do amazing design -and- wordpress work and I've always been a fan. I'm looking forward to seeing that CMS you've got.

Love you bunches

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i can vote 89 times for you through each of my nicks

then start and mayeb you may ask Ryulion for some sexy pics of me. We have one where I'm oiled and he's biting my ass

harvey · 08-26-2011, 03:15 PM

hubba hubba!

harvey · 08-26-2011, 04:35 PM

V_RocKs · 08-26-2011, 04:48 PM

Some of us don't have sigs turned on... who are you?

harvey · 08-26-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Some of us don't have sigs turned on... who are you?

FDsign FTW

alan-l · 08-26-2011, 09:50 PM

another vote for you, good luck

Vjo · 08-26-2011, 10:29 PM

voted 4u

why? cause you're the only nominee to post in one of my fuck off threads

who says you don't network

it's not what you know, it's who you know

Mutt · 08-26-2011, 10:53 PM

i voted for you yesterday

TheSquealer · 08-27-2011, 07:23 AM

Perhaps you should take a moment on give some thought to the fact you have to publicly beg and argue and sell people to get them to acknowledge you and your services. Then get to work on trying to fix it.

CaptainHowdy · 08-27-2011, 07:31 AM

The Gay Mafia is strong in that category. Good Luck and you have my vote, harvey ...

harvey · 08-27-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by alan-l

another vote for you, good luck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo

voted 4u

why? cause you're the only nominee to post in one of my fuck off threads

who says you don't network

it's not what you know, it's who you know

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

i voted for you yesterday

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

The Gay Mafia is strong in that category. Good Luck and you have my vote, harvey ...

harvey · 08-27-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Perhaps you should take a moment on give some thought to the fact you have to publicly beg and argue and sell people to get them to acknowledge you and your services. Then get to work on trying to fix it.

you mean,,, like your president/mayor/congressman/whatever?

and btw, you can't even imagine how much the words of a nazi with high school nickname (and brain) hurt my feelings

TheSquealer · 08-27-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

you mean,,, like your president/mayor/congressman/whatever?

and btw, you can't even imagine how much the words of a nazi with high school nickname (and brain) hurt my feelings

I am not trying to hurt your feelings. It was just an interesting observation and seeming contradiction to me. Either you are really great and the industry in general recognizes that or not. Rather than doing things to position yourself as the best and as the expert (posting incredible and technically challenging designs, tutorials on page layout, headlines, conversions, effective copy, graphics vs text in design, controlled studies and so on) you are begging for approval.

Just struck me as being a bit odd in the broader sense. Not anything about you in particular although you often come off as being quite cocky and seem to offer little to justify it.

Deej · 08-27-2011, 12:51 PM

Since my shit wasnt self nominated... ill throw my vote in there for you Harv

TheSquealer · 08-27-2011, 12:53 PM

My point i guess was that you had to post a combination of a "plea" as you put it, followed up by an oversized sales pitch to try to close people in the idea that you are the best.

"The Best" is something that is often self evident or else the perception created in the minds of potential customers as the result of careful positioning and consistent branding/marketing. It's a perception of quality. That is not something that can be created with cheap sales copy, particularly when you have unmotivated and apathetic buyers. All you've done is made an argument and made one with no real relevant context. No design samples. No testimonials. No improved conversions etc.

Its just a random claim that has no real instant credibility in the mind of the reader. Furthermore, its a claim that others are making as well which again takes away from the credibility of any one particular claim of being "the best".

Hope this helps.

harvey · 08-27-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I am not trying to hurt your feelings. It was just an interesting observation and seeming contradiction to me. Either you are really great and the industry in general recognizes that or not. Rather than doing things to position yourself as the best and as the expert (posting incredible and technically challenging designs, tutorials on page layout, headlines, conversions, effective copy, graphics vs text in design, controlled studies and so on) you are begging for approval.

Just struck me as being a bit odd in the broader sense. Not anything about you in particular although you often come off as being quite cocky and seem to offer little to justify it.

well, in your tiny world I assume Dickmans, Blue Design, Wyldesites and Adult Design also suck. Wow. The fact that those companies (and mine, and Wolume and a few more) built the visual and tech part of this business and we worked for most (if not all) the medium to big companies in adult since 98 to date really eludes you. Personally, I can't remember a single company I didn't work for exception made of Private.

So according to you, helping other people out is wrong (yes I know you think so, you already admitted and defended it) and in order to qualify DESIGN me, Bruno, $tandaman, Mark and the real design studios should develop "ICQ messaging skills" since design isn't even a consideration?

And ACCORDING TO YOU a designer is someone that doesn't need to necessarily know anything about design, just being a middle person.

But... wait: if those designers are so good... why can't they work by their own and need a middle person in order to work? Guess that didn't even occur to you

And finally, this is not again those outsourcing companies. I'd have vote for one of them if there was an outsourcing category, they're good outsourcing companies. The fact that you can't even understand the difference between design and outsourcing speaks a lot

but yes, you're really smart

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

seem to offer little to justify it.

nice you think so and the people that matters doesn't. It simply confirms everything I said

harvey · 08-27-2011, 01:13 PM

and btw, there's honest people who stands for what they believe

.

Sorry to annoy you and burst your bubble

TheSquealer · 08-27-2011, 01:21 PM

Wow! You made up a whole lot of things and put a whole lot of words into my mouth that were never said. I was talking about YOU and this thread. Not sure how you managed to take it to so many bizarre places. No one mentioned outsourcing or anything else you babbled about in what is clearly a frustrated and desperate reply.

You should have taken a break and calmed down first.

BTW.. case in point. Mike Wylde was the best. Not because he asked people to agree that he was the best, but because everyone recognized his work for being the best. That's why he was charging 5k for a 4 page design. He never had to say "look at me" ... everyone else was saying "look at him". Thats the difference between trying to convince people you are the best and actually being the best.

He didn't have to write a convoluted sales pitch on a forum to convince people he was the best. He didn't have to run around saying "hey guys, here is a 3 page, 59 point argument as to why you should agree i'm the best".

harvey · 08-27-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Wow! You made up a whole lot of things and put a whole lot of words into my mouth that were never said. I was talking about YOU and this thread. Not sure how you managed to take it to so many bizarre places. No one mentioned outsourcing or anything else you babbled about in what is clearly a frustrated and desperate reply.

You should have taken a break and calmed down first.

BTW.. case in point. Mike Wylde was the best. Not because he asked people to agree that he was the best, but because everyone recognized his work for being the best. That's why he was charging 5k for a 4 page design. He never had to say "look at me" ... everyone else was saying "look at him". Thats the difference between trying to convince people you are the best and actually being the best.

He didn't have to write a convoluted sales pitch on a forum to convince people he was the best. He didn't have to run around saying "hey guys, here is a 3 page, 59 point argument as to why you should agree i'm the best".

well, at least we agree on something: Mike was the best (and yet you don't even understand the point of design vs outsourcing

). And GFY community rewarded him with.... what exactly? He wasn't even nominated!

And for all the "cockiness" I have, I said I fell embarrassed that Adult Design and Dickmans are getting less votes than us.

For everything else have fun, I will worry myself when I have to beg for work instead of votes. Maybe you can make a poll and ask only the people in this thread how many of them I told we can't take any more work, or to wait, or we're working for them right now. But hey, who knows, they might not be as smart as you

TheSquealer · 08-27-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

And GFY community rewarded him with.... what exactly? He wasn't even nominated!

As far as I know, he's been retired for many years. I don't personally remember the last design he showed either in public or private, but its been at least 4-5 years for me. I'm wondering at this point if you are retarded or what.

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And for all the "cockiness" I have, I said I fell embarrassed that Adult Design and Dickmans are getting less votes than us.

Yeah, imagine that, everyone recognizes them for great quality and this "poll" is irrelevant to them. Crazy that they are busy working and creating and not spamming message boards and begging for "votes" to affirm their quality of work.

harvey · 08-27-2011, 01:59 PM

yes I'm retarded

And we also suck, sorry about that

TheSquealer · 08-27-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

yes I'm retarded

And we also suck, sorry about that

Imagine that. He's still so good that he doesn't spend his days whoring on forums to beg (er "plea") for business. In fact, he's so good that probably the majority of this forum has no idea who he even is.

RyuLion · 08-27-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey

I'm sexy, tell Juicy!

then start and mayeb you may ask Ryulion for some sexy pics of me. We have one where I'm oiled and he's biting my ass

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey

hubba hubba!

Juicy + Harvey sitting in a tree, KISSING..

CaptainHowdy · 08-27-2011, 03:13 PM

harvey · 08-27-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

OK, Captain, I'm officially freaked out now

epitome · 08-27-2011, 03:18 PM

I think I voted for you even before you asked us to.

halfpint · 08-27-2011, 03:23 PM

Ok after much discussion and the agreed payout I decided to vote for you, and only because i like your photoshops lolol

CaptainHowdy · 08-28-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

OK, Captain, I'm officially freaked out now

(bump)

CaptainHowdy · 08-29-2011, 05:32 AM

Uno más ...

harvey · 08-29-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Uno más ...

papill0n · 08-29-2011, 02:43 PM

what sort of drugs are you on ?

08-26-2011, 12:54 PM	#1
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	an open plea on WHY should you vote for us! yes, myself and my crew are a bunch of turds who don't use ICQ and lack social skills. We're also pretty busy to play the PR game, so we're on a lose-lose situation to that respect. THUS.... 1 - Not even our own clients who use us every day are voting us 2 - Not even the people we have helped for free voted for us 3 - People for which we had made millions of dollars admitted they voted someone else that didn't made them a cent because... they were asked to (damn social skills ) THEREFORE.... Although we're in pretty good company with the best design companies in the industry (I almost feel embarrassed to get my votes than Dickmans or Adult Design), we could really use some votes. Not only because we would obviously like to be recognized by the community to which we gave so much (and we got a lot in return as well ) but also because, like many people know, I'm a fan of design. I might not be the best, but I love it. I breathe it. It's what I chose to do despite what I studied, it's in my mind every single minute of the day. Many people knows how I always stood for designers, explained them how to improve, how to defend themselves, how to get respect. It's my passion. With all my limitations, and those of my team, we always strive to get better and better, and when we could, we were among the first to innovate in adult (CSS only, AJAX, WP CMS, adaptive design, HTML5, JQuery tools, etc). It takes a lot of time=money to do so, but like I said, it's my passion, a passion that I'm happy to say it's contagious to my team. Many people knows that we even worked way above what we were asked for just because of our pride and passion, just because we felt it could be done better. And like most of you know, I'm a very honest person, which is more a problem than a quality, but I can't and won't change at this point of my life. And in all honesty, it really hurts that this community and this industry is choosing outsourcing companies over the design companies that molded this industry, for bad or for good, what it takes I know that the "troll herds" like to have fun and this post may hurt us more than what it will help. So be it. I see people voting for Fatfoo or ban Eric or Theo, so it's not that I don't know how things work. But I never asked for anything here, so this time I'd like to invite you to vote for us . We are passionate about what we do and would like you to share that passion with us We lack social skills. My ICQ works from time to time. But I honestly think we deserve your vote for DESIGN company __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

08-26-2011, 01:30 PM	#2
TubeSubmitters Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,683	Launch that cms already and you'd get my vote __________________ Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up

08-26-2011, 01:38 PM	#4
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08-26-2011, 01:42 PM	#5
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08-26-2011, 02:03 PM	#6
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,501	Well I think I voted once already and apparently GFY won't let me vote AGAIN otherwise I would vote for Thee, Sir Harvey. I voted for Zuzana only because she was the only one in the list I actually employed once, for a gallery design. But hey, it's hard for us cartoon characters to get respect. LOL I would say: use this 1st Annual GFY Awards as a Lesson Learned. NEXT year begin your PR campaign a month or so before the voting opens..... You could always design a killer 'Vote For Me' website and put the link in your sig.....LOL But honestly, you've been here 10+ years, still posting (and still making sense) so that should be reward enough. LOL I'm sure you got a T-Shirt at some point, too....(I never did!) Lastly, boycotting said GFY AWards, in protest, by staying in, curling up on the couch with the comfort food of your choice and watching a Beatles marathon is a good way to say GFY to GFY AWards! Kinda like I do every year during the Oscars since I'm mysteriously never nominated.... __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Skype: peabodymedia

08-26-2011, 02:04 PM	#7
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08-26-2011, 02:50 PM	#11
TubeSubmitters Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,683	Ok I voted already! __________________ Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up

08-26-2011, 02:53 PM	#12
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	Stop posting here on GFY and finish my designs! (maybe I'll vote for you then) __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

08-26-2011, 02:53 PM	#13
RyuLion ClubDomCash.com Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 32,176	btw - Harvey, I know what you really look like.. lol __________________ Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995

08-26-2011, 03:01 PM	#14
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	I went here and voted for you (FDSign). https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1034831 Why? You do amazing design -and- wordpress work and I've always been a fan. I'm looking forward to seeing that CMS you've got. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

08-26-2011, 03:11 PM	#15
My Pimp Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,201	Outscourcing design is very cheap. You would be suprised.

08-26-2011, 03:12 PM	#17
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	i can vote 89 times for you through each of my nicks

08-26-2011, 03:15 PM	#19
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	hubba hubba! __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

08-26-2011, 04:35 PM	#20
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	__________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

08-26-2011, 04:48 PM	#21
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Some of us don't have sigs turned on... who are you?

08-26-2011, 09:50 PM	#23
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	another vote for you, good luck

08-26-2011, 10:29 PM	#24
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	voted 4u why? cause you're the only nominee to post in one of my fuck off threads who says you don't network it's not what you know, it's who you know

08-26-2011, 10:53 PM	#25
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i voted for you yesterday __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

08-27-2011, 07:23 AM	#26
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,083	Perhaps you should take a moment on give some thought to the fact you have to publicly beg and argue and sell people to get them to acknowledge you and your services. Then get to work on trying to fix it. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

08-27-2011, 07:31 AM	#27
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,007	The Gay Mafia is strong in that category. Good Luck and you have my vote, harvey ... __________________ FLASH SALE INSANITY! deal with a 100% Trusted Seller Buy Traffic Spots on a High-Quality Network 1 Year or Lifetime — That’s Right, Until the Internet Explodes!

08-27-2011, 12:51 PM	#31
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Since my shit wasnt self nominated... ill throw my vote in there for you Harv __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

08-27-2011, 12:53 PM	#32
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,083	My point i guess was that you had to post a combination of a "plea" as you put it, followed up by an oversized sales pitch to try to close people in the idea that you are the best. "The Best" is something that is often self evident or else the perception created in the minds of potential customers as the result of careful positioning and consistent branding/marketing. It's a perception of quality. That is not something that can be created with cheap sales copy, particularly when you have unmotivated and apathetic buyers. All you've done is made an argument and made one with no real relevant context. No design samples. No testimonials. No improved conversions etc. Its just a random claim that has no real instant credibility in the mind of the reader. Furthermore, its a claim that others are making as well which again takes away from the credibility of any one particular claim of being "the best". Hope this helps. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard Last edited by TheSquealer; 08-27-2011 at 12:55 PM..

08-27-2011, 01:13 PM	#34
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	and btw, there's honest people who stands for what they believe . Sorry to annoy you and burst your bubble __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

08-27-2011, 01:21 PM	#35
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,083	Wow! You made up a whole lot of things and put a whole lot of words into my mouth that were never said. I was talking about YOU and this thread. Not sure how you managed to take it to so many bizarre places. No one mentioned outsourcing or anything else you babbled about in what is clearly a frustrated and desperate reply. You should have taken a break and calmed down first. BTW.. case in point. Mike Wylde was the best. Not because he asked people to agree that he was the best, but because everyone recognized his work for being the best. That's why he was charging 5k for a 4 page design. He never had to say "look at me" ... everyone else was saying "look at him". Thats the difference between trying to convince people you are the best and actually being the best. He didn't have to write a convoluted sales pitch on a forum to convince people he was the best. He didn't have to run around saying "hey guys, here is a 3 page, 59 point argument as to why you should agree i'm the best". __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard Last edited by TheSquealer; 08-27-2011 at 01:23 PM..

08-27-2011, 01:59 PM	#38
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	yes I'm retarded And we also suck, sorry about that __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

08-27-2011, 03:13 PM	#41
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,007	__________________ FLASH SALE INSANITY! deal with a 100% Trusted Seller Buy Traffic Spots on a High-Quality Network 1 Year or Lifetime — That’s Right, Until the Internet Explodes!

08-27-2011, 03:18 PM	#43
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	I think I voted for you even before you asked us to.

08-27-2011, 03:23 PM	#44
halfpint GFY's Halfpint Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 15,223	Ok after much discussion and the agreed payout I decided to vote for you, and only because i like your photoshops lolol __________________ Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net

08-29-2011, 05:32 AM	#46
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,007	Uno más ... __________________ FLASH SALE INSANITY! deal with a 100% Trusted Seller Buy Traffic Spots on a High-Quality Network 1 Year or Lifetime — That’s Right, Until the Internet Explodes!

08-29-2011, 02:43 PM	#48
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	what sort of drugs are you on ?