Adapt or Die - Traffic is easy to get. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

porno jew · 09-19-2011, 02:04 PM

50 oblivious old fools.

Paul Markham · 09-19-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

My point Paul, is that you don't actually know what you're talking about here. You need to be asking questions and listening instead of lecturing.

The SMART way to go about it is to open up your icq and find someone who's had some serious success and is still in the game, who is patient enough to answer your questions and help you monetize your content in ways that actually make sense. Conversely, you can use the Alien biz model of thinking that you already know what you need to know, keep spinning your wheels and wonder why you're working so hard and not making any money.

I'm talking about the product, not traffic. The product, is something I do know a lot about. Or did I survive 34 years producing porn and not knowing anything about it?

OK tomorrow you and I can chat and you can tell me how to monetize my content and I can tell you how to create a better product. You can post my comments for others to see. I will need logins to your site first, to see what you're doing.

Deal?

I'm sure as a sponsor you've done well, do you want to do better?

So far no one has come up with one logical statement about where I'm wrong. A lot of trolls are talking about traffic, I'm not. A lot are talking about our sideline, the paysites.

As a porn consumer, producer and seller over the last 30 years, I've learned a little about how to improve the product. Went to share knowledge?

Today I'm retired and just living off what I shot for the last 20 plus years. Got more than enough to live the rest of my life on and the money coming in, is extra.

Argos is the guy who has it nearly right. Today fewer buy porn than they did last year and the year before that. And that trends continued for years. And no one is doing anything to turn it around. Maybe you are, so let me see what your product is like tomorrow and chat.

Konda is also wrong, 10 years ago this industry was much smaller. What matters in business isn't what happened 10 years ago, it's what happens this year and next. Stop thinking of the past Konda.

Sorry about the mistake Konda, I never guessed you would be comparing online from 2001 and today, you're still guessing. As so few have audited accounts. AFF share launch I think was an indication of what people think of Dating. Have they forgotten the idea or what? I thought the shares tanked.

Can you give us a link to the shares price?

will76 · 09-19-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Did I have enough traffic to make sign ups? Well enough even today to keep the sites open.

You could make 1 sale month and keep your sites "open". Seriously how much do you need to pay for a hosting account for a site that gets no traffic??? and other than hosting costs what the hell do you need to pay for your site???

If I am 70 years old, supposedly retired and I am still on GFY trying to argue with everyone and telling them all how I am right and they are all wrong, spending all day writing books about non sense then some one please fucking shot me.

Paul, you are one old clueless bat shit crazy mother fucker. It's pretty sad, why don't you enjoy golden years instead of spending your last days trying to convince people of something you are not - smart.

If you want to be a legend in your own mind then you can do that without having to post so much on gfy and tryign to convince others of it, No one is ever going to believe that you know much of about anything. Find 1 person here who agrees with what you say. Just 1 person.

papill0n · 09-19-2011, 02:36 PM

youre a fucking photgrapher paul - get over yourself mate

you are the most arrogant, ignorant cunt here

fucking troll

papill0n · 09-19-2011, 02:38 PM

your combined traffic after 34 years in the biz < 500 uniques a day

sux to be you homegirl

DamianJ · 09-19-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

your combined traffic after 34 years in the biz < 500 uniques a day

sux to be you homegirl

Traffic is easy. Idiot.

Jel · 09-19-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Maybe Jel is right about my traffic skills.

But they don't seem so bad once you include the galleries.

I'm dead right. Problem is you are also too stupid to realise that:

a) mixedracelesbos is a micro-niche site
b) mixedracelesbos is far from my main source of income

Fail. Again.

theking · 09-19-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm talking about the product, not traffic. The product, is something I do know a lot about. Or did I survive 34 years producing porn and not knowing anything about it?

You know about your product/content period. If traffic is so easy to get and your product/content is so great then you would be making millions off of your pay site...now wouldn't you...but you are not.

Yet you want to show others...that are doing fine with their pay site/sites and their content...how to improve their business.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to improve your pay site and content so that you can earn the money...that those you wish to lecture...are making?

Clueless is as clueless does.

wehateporn · 09-19-2011, 04:56 PM

GFY should be paying Paul for this, perhaps they already are

Posts: 29,508

porno jew · 09-19-2011, 05:00 PM

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theking · 09-19-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Today I'm retired and just living off what I shot for the last 20 plus years. Got more than enough to live the rest of my life on and the money coming in, is extra.

That is not true. You left off that you get a check from the government and that your wife has to work...to make ends meet.

wehateporn · 09-19-2011, 05:10 PM

alias · 09-19-2011, 05:14 PM

Ya'll niggas postin' in a Paul Markham thread.

Just Alex · 09-19-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

That is not true. You left off that you get a check from the government and that your wife has to work...to make ends meet.

Paul is on welfare program?
Oh shit

WarChild · 09-19-2011, 07:41 PM

Please stop arguing in these threads. Let the crazy old man ramble on without an audience.

EukerVoorn · 09-19-2011, 08:02 PM

My signup ratio has always been between 1/250 and 1/500 (and in the VHS/DVD mailorder days it was 1/1000) and I've always been happy with that (well untill I started using Zombaio because they don't process credit card, they decline them hahahahahaha). For the rest I'm curious about what Paul has to say, since he's an old fart I sure us punks can learn things from him. Also I'm seriously considering giving all my older content away for free using tubes, that should generate a lot of traffic because I'm one of the best pornographers in the world (together with 10,000 others lol). I now find my content (old and new) back on thousands of tube sites so I might as well give it away for free, in better quality than these tube sites do and without ads/pop ups, hidden catches and other crap.

Are we on the same page here Paul?

EukerVoorn · 09-19-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

If you want to be a legend in your own mind then you can do that without having to post so much on gfy and tryign to convince others of it, No one is ever going to believe that you know much of about anything. Find 1 person here who agrees with what you say. Just 1 person.

I know Paul from another forum some years ago and he has my credit and some things he writes make sense. How he is doing himself at the moment isn't relevant. I agree with some things you write too though, even though you don't put it very politely. But yes when I'm 70 I hope I'll be sitting in my garden with my cats and my box of Amstel beer and my barbecue and some French slut sucking my dick and some German slut sucking my balls and some Italian slut sucking my ass and some Spanish slut licking my left ear and some Asian slut licking my right ear, instead of arguing with strangers in some forum.

Anyway... HELLO, I'M THAT JUST ONE PERSON!!!! So you have to suck his cock now, as you promised. Promise is a promise!

Paul Markham · 09-19-2011, 10:33 PM

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If you're aware of ANOTHER audience you're attracting and not satisfying, then you build something for them and redirect them.

This is exactly what I'm taking about.

will76 · 09-19-2011, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I know Paul from another forum some years ago and he has my credit and some things he writes make sense. How he is doing himself at the moment isn't relevant. I agree with some things you write too though, even though you don't put it very politely. But yes when I'm 70 I hope I'll be sitting in my garden with my cats and my box of Amstel beer and my barbecue and some French slut sucking my dick and some German slut sucking my balls and some Italian slut sucking my ass and some Spanish slut licking my left ear and some Asian slut licking my right ear, instead of arguing with strangers in some forum.

Anyway... HELLO, I'M THAT JUST ONE PERSON!!!! So you have to suck his cock now, as you promised. Promise is a promise!

How about someone with more than 39 posts and reg date of Aug 2011 ???

2intense · 09-19-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sponsorpimp

Yes please tell us Paul how to put it right...

Argos88 · 09-19-2011, 11:06 PM

nobody really knows what adapt or die is...

people just repeat it, because its like a slogan, but nobody knows what it really means.

porno jew · 09-19-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

nobody really knows what adapt or die is...

people just repeat it, because its like a slogan, but nobody knows what it really means.

it means if you can't make money with paysites move on and make money with cams.

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Traffic is easy. Idiot.

The problem which these clowns will never get is.

GETTING ENOUGH TRAFFIC.

To get a sign up for $30.

And none of them will address that. This thread isn't about how to treble the traffic and double the ratio. So obviously over their heads.

It's about how to get 1 more sign up from the 100s who say no and get them to stay members.

But all they want to talk about is getting more traffic.

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

nobody really knows what adapt or die is...

people just repeat it, because its like a slogan, but nobody knows what it really means.

They think it's about giving away more free porn than the next man.

theking · 09-20-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This is exactly what I'm taking about.

Well...good for him...as we should not see another long winded post from you when one sentence is all that is required...now should we?

Emil · 09-20-2011, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Maybe Jel is right about my traffic skills.

But they don't seem so bad once you include the galleries.

Google Images traffic suck ass. And I bet most of your traffic is coming from affiliates.

theking · 09-20-2011, 02:32 AM

BTW...Markham...you have stated before that your wife is as good a shooter as you...if not better...and if it is true that you are not physically capable of shooting...why then is she working at some minimal paying job to help make ends meet since your government check is not enough...instead of shooting?

With all of your knowledge that you want to dispense to Dig and others about how to improve their pay sites...and with traffic being so easy to get...as you claim it is...why isn't she shooting and she/you making hundreds of thousands if not millions per year instead of her having to work at a minimal paying job to help make ends meet along with the government check you receive?

TheDoc · 09-20-2011, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The problem which these clowns will never get is.

ENOUGH TRAFFIC.

To get a sign up for $30.

And none of them will address that. This thread isn't about how to treble the traffic and double the ratio. So obviously over their heads.

It's about how to get 1 more sign up from the 100s who say no and get them to stay members.

But all they want to talk about is getting more traffic.

The issue here is you don't practice what you preach... you never have.

Anyway, I run a couple fun product sites with my kids. More by luck, we got two sales (one person, purchased two products) at amazon, on a page only linked in our sitemap, we earned $1.12. I then showed them how the person and others, found the page, the stats in amazon, etc.

His response was perfect, he gets up to leave, I ask, what are you doing? he said, "Getting my phone to call people and tell them about my website so I make more money."

Of course he was talking about his play phone, but he understood exactly what to do, his logic was solid.

He never thought about making the page better, or maybe we could have sold the other 3 people and made money (yes in mainstream not everyone buys too), he got the message clean and clear... more people = more money.

Why is it that a 7 year old gets it but you keep missing the bigger picture?

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Paul is on welfare program?
Oh shit

Not welfare. I'm an invalid, due to the cancer and my condition after the therapy. I get money from the UK and CZ Benefits scheme, something I've paid into for years. If I was to start working again, from the office a few hours a day, instead of trolling. I would lose those payments.

You'll see I'm unable to start work again. When I'm fit enough I'll probably go onto 2 Government retirement pensions.

It's just part of our income, about $1,000 a week. Next is the sales from the stores and sites and the biggest income from my private pensions, which I've paid in over the years 1980 to 2008.

So not exactly destitute or on welfare, see how fast myths can start on boards?

King is probably on welfare as well, if he claims this is welfare, from his payments as a disabled soldier. Which is something he has claimed.

theking · 09-20-2011, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Not welfare. I'm an invalid, due to the cancer and my condition after the therapy. I get money from the UK and CZ Benefits scheme, something I've paid into for years. If I was to start working again, from the office a few hours a day, instead of trolling. I would lose those payments.

You'll see I'm unable to start work again. When I'm fit enough I'll probably go onto 2 Government retirement pensions.

It's just part of our income, about $1,000 a week. Next is the sales from the stores and sites and the biggest income from my private pensions, which I've paid in over the years 1980 to 2008.

So not exactly destitute or on welfare, see how fast myths can start on boards?

King is probably on welfare as well, if he claims this is welfare, from his payments as a disabled soldier. Which is something he has claimed.

I did not and do not claim that you are on welfare...and yes I receive a check from the VA for being a 100% disabled Vet as well as a SSA disability check for the same reason...which I too paid into...but to some people a government check is nothing more than a form of welfare.

I have a substantial sum of money invested in the stock market...which I invested in when I sold all of my properties I had acquired over more than a twenty year period. That was always my primary business...which I began while I was still in the Army.

I do not touch my investments and just roll dividends over as well as add to the investments as I only use about half of my SSA and VA checks to live off of...which is easy to do as I own every thing I have outright and being single I do not have a lot of expenses.

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

well.. the business is pretty done...

people dont buy anymore since everything is free at filesonic.

People still buy, just ever decreasing numbers. Free is only part of the reason.

If the industry that's charging $30 a month and can't compete with what's being given away. People need to sit down and start figuring out how to convert more of what they have.

Squealers analogy was the same as many others. Stupid.

Simply saying online did for porn what the car did for transport is stupid. Yes Squealer stupid. The car improved transport for the individual and the transport industry by amounts that are mind blowing.

What has the Internet done to improve the porn industry?

It's allowed a lot more small Ma & Pa and one man bands to get into the business. The vast majority of affiliates are people working on their own from home.

It's allowed people like Dig420 to open a feeds company, to supply lots porn to paysites. http://www.extremefeeds.com/feeds.php Not sure if this is DVD porn or custom shot for his feeds or a mix. Great feed for small sites who can't afford to shoot much themselves.

It's allowed a lot of people to open sites and have small companies. 1-4 man bands, who would of never of got into porn without the Internet.

It's allowed a lot of shooters who would never of sold to offline to sell online.

Other than a handful of companies, it's become a big collection of small companies.

But what did it do for the porn product? Where was the adaptation, innovation and stretching of the whole product the Internet made possible? That offline couldn't do.

Generally speaking, the product it did nothing for. What ever porn is online, was available offline. Anyone who walked around a Berlin Venus show would of seen lot's of Micro Niche Videos for sale. There was MILF, TEENS, BIG TITS, SMALL TITS, GRANNIES, EBONY, BBW, INTER-RACIAL, GIRLS FUCKED IN VEHICLES. etc.

So what has happened to sites from 1995 to 2011?

Quality of image, speed and size. All technology and nothing done by the industry. Some sites survived and many didn't.

The biggest change in the porn business because of online porn is the need to buy. There's now no need to buy.

We went from giving a few single images away on Newsgroups. To giving small TGPs with a few pictures, to bigger ones with 20 second video clips, to 100 if not 1,000s of sites with 10,000s of scenes 60 minutes to 5 minutes.

The biggest and most effective use we made of the Internet is to make buying the product totally unnecessary. In fact we made not buying better than buying. And anyone who claimed this was the road to a fall was ridiculed, usually by people whose entire living depended on giving away more porn than the next man.

Casanova · 09-20-2011, 06:41 AM

I do agree on the fact that traffic from multiple sources is vital. Also conversion rate is directly proportional to the quality of the content

fris · 09-20-2011, 06:48 AM

giving on advice on traffic from someone who has none isnt going to convince anyone

Just Alex · 09-20-2011, 06:58 AM

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People need to sit down and start figuring out how to convert more of what they have.

Magic join buttons?

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 07:06 AM

So what could of been done?

Well some things were so obvious and it beggars belief others didn't pick it up.

Many offline companies came into online. The list is huge. Few came over 100% Like me they used online as another level to their business. From Hustler to guys shooting shooting content. They could get extra income from online porn they were getting from offline porn.

Site owners or shooters could of sold their content to magazines or DVD companies. None did or weren't able to.

I'm sure many designers or programmers went into mainstream to not do so was limiting their market.

Generally was there more coming in from offline porn than from online into offline?

A lot of sites made a big feature of a single girl. Few could afford to employ girls exclusive like companies like Wicked and Vivid could. Which is a big fail. Robbie, SGS and others will tell you how well it works. Yet few did it.

No multi girl site did it properly and that's crazy. They just kept adding more and more girls, just piling it up.

And the Internet is the perfect medium for having girls under contract to work on the site full time. The girls are there to talk to members, do live shows for many, do them 1-1. The possibilities are there to utilize the instant access of the Internet and take it beyond a place to down load videos.

And it's easy. Members like a girl, vote for her, talk to the shooter to see if she's right for the job, get her in to do some test days. If she's good sign her up.

Surfers hit the site and see a great girl whose unique and exclusive to the site. Better than that, she's going to be online in a few hours time to see for the price of a membership. Suddenly it's not just her, there's a couple more in the site. And the CC is out on this site rather than another one. Maybe more would sign for online porn with this model. Doesn't matter to the site owner, more sign up to his site.

So why wasn't this done?

Cost of a girl working full time for a site I suspect is the main reason. The big talk everyone loves to spout, isn't backed up in the real world. A girl would cost around $4,000 a month. $10 profit a sign up = 400 sign ups or retained members. Just over 13 a day.

How many more surfers would join this site rather than another?

How many affiliates would rather send traffic to this site rather than another?

What if the site, which has to be big not the usual Ma & Pa operation. Cuts down on a scene a day, so rather than adding 3 - 5 scenes a day they add 2-4? They have enough content already and now they have a real live girl. The scene can be recorded and added to the site at little cost.

To me, if my business was paysites and we were the size we were in 2005/6 it would of been a no brainer, assuming we could find English speaking girls in 2005 and we approached a few sponsors to do live scenes as a feed.

Content production is our game, not paysites. Before you shoot down this entire post on that last sentence. Tell us why you wouldn't send traffic to a site with live girls on or why you wouldn't do it if your main business is or was paysites?

Today recorded porn is free everywhere and easier and better than buying. Yet we still all seem to be stuck trying to sell recorded porn. Where's the adaptation?

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

giving on advice on traffic from someone who has none isnt going to convince anyone

Did you read what I was giving advice on?

TheSquealer · 09-20-2011, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Did you read what I was giving advice on?

Yeah, you have been lying to people and trying to make people believe you are making great money off your porn and what you've shot over the years. Thats been a big part of how you give yourself credibility... by letting people know you are so successful and great at what you do. The fact is, as i've pointed out many times is that you are not and NEVER have seen any real success in this business.

As i've been saying, you are just a broke loser. You proved that today by letting us all know that you make $5,000.00 per month or more from pensions and government compensation and that your porn/content income is almost nothing as a part of your total income.

You've already came here to beg for money and you've made it clear your wife has to work another job in spite of the both of you being the best shooters alive and armed with the "fact" that content is king.

You've already tipped your hand publicly Paul and confirmed you are barely in the porn business at all and the last 34 years in porn has amounted to what? 1000.00 - 2000.00 a month in income for you (surely an exaggeration since you lie compulsively)?

Maybe it's time you just shut the fuck up and stop telling people how to make money when you clearly don't know how to? Maybe you should stop telling Brazzers how fucked up they are when you can't even scrape together a couple thousand dollars a month after 34 years doing what they've been doing for a fraction of that time and managed to build a 9 figure empire?

Just sayin'

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yeah, you have been lying to people and trying to make people believe you are making great money off your porn and what you've shot over the years. Thats been a big part of how you give yourself credibility... by letting people know you are so successful and great at what you do. The fact is, as i've pointed out many times is that you are not and NEVER have seen any real success in this business.

As i've been saying, you are just a broke loser. You proved that today by letting us all know that you make $5,000.00 per month or more from pensions and government compensation and that your porn/content income is almost nothing.

You've already came here to beg for money and you've made it clear your wife has to work another job in spite of the both of you being the best shooters alive and armed with the "fact" that content is king.

You've already tipped your hand publicly Paul and confirmed you are barely in the porn business at all and the last 34 years in porn has amounted to what? 1000.00 - 2000.00 a month in income for you (surely an exaggeration since you lie compulsively)?

Maybe it's time you just shut the fuck up and stop telling people how to make money when you clearly don't know how to? Maybe you should stop telling Brazzers how fucked up they are when you can't even scrape together a couple thousand dollars a month after 34 years doing what they've been doing for a fraction of that time and managed to build a 9 figure empire?

Just sayin'

While you don't tell anyone how little you're worth.

I told you one income flow. From that you made it $5,000? Or what.

$4,000 is from the invalid benefit, the next up the ladder is from the sites, the top are my private pensions. Have you any idea what 30 years worth of pension with 4 companies are worth?

All this while retired.

You came to our studio which I think was then 2,000 sq ft, met all the staff and Eva, did you meet the Nanny looking after our daughter? I was clearly not having to kiss you ass to get what you had to offer.

You saw all that, saw the quality of the content and still chose to spend the day with a guy you had no intention of doing business with.

And you think because we didn't have 2 big flash cars and a big flash home, we're broke.

I didn't think you were worth taking to a restaurant for a meal, so gave you pasta at home, then turned on the TV and still you think I needed you. You're a joke.

Maybe you should shut the fuck up, as you're a loser and stop giving advice to me.Or show us what you do and worth. I suspect you work from home and another loser troll.

I had best put you on my troll list.

Sid70 · 09-20-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Maybe Jel is right about my traffic skills.

But they don't seem so bad once you include the galleries.

Can I haz a design order to redo your '95 ish thing http://www.paulmarkhamcash.com ?

Johny Traffic · 09-20-2011, 07:37 AM

Jel · 09-20-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Except in paul's case it's the other way around ;)

TheSquealer · 09-20-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

While you don't tell anyone how little you're worth.

I told you one income flow. From that you made it $5,000? Or what.

$4,000 is from the invalid benefit, the next up the ladder is from the sites, the top are my private pensions. Have you any idea what 30 years worth of pension with 4 companies are worth?

All this while retired.

You came to our studio which I think was then 2,000 sq ft, met all the staff and Eva, did you meet the Nanny looking after our daughter? I was clearly not having to kiss you ass to get what you had to offer.

You saw all that, saw the quality of the content and still chose to spend the day with a guy you had no intention of doing business with.

And you think because we didn't have 2 big flash cars and a big flash home, we're broke.

I didn't think you were worth taking to a restaurant for a meal, so gave you pasta at home, then turned on the TV and still you think I needed you. You're a joke.

Maybe you should shut the fuck up, as you're a loser and stop giving advice to me.Or show us what you do and worth. I suspect you work from home and another loser troll.

I had best put you on my troll list.

Paul, all you do is lecture with a condescending and arrogant tone about things you know absolutely nothing about.

You just outed yourself in this thread again for being broke business wise. You just admitted you don't even have the money from revenue to pay for a 2000 sq foot studio. You just admitted your sites don't make money. You just admitted you make barely anything from content sales.

I was in Brno the first time to meet you in 2004. That was the same time of your "content blowout" , me too bullshit. Your content business was in obvious rapid decline. You were already in financial trouble at the time. You already saw the writing on the wall and knew you were not going to continue to be competitive in online content sales. You were trying to start tgps and paysites and doing all kinds of crap to make money including your totally insane plot to rent out your studio to production companies for many $1000's a day, which looked like an ill equipped and filthy, ghetto, secondhand IKEA showroom.

It was not too long after that when you came to this board begging for money. Not too long after that, you admitted Eva was also forced to work to make ends meet just so you guys can survive. So yeah, you had a couple girls working for you. I had 100's working 24/7 in 3 10,000sq ft plus offices. Big fucking deal. I don't anymore and you don't anymore. Business changed, the business models changed and I got out of what I was doing and focused my efforts elsewhere to make money. You on the other hand decided to try to continue this retarded ruse of lecturing people as you're some sort of successful expert on a business that changes rapidly and that has so clearly left you in the past.

So... not too sure what your supposed "nanny" in 2004 has to do with anything. In case you haven't noticed you delirious old fuck, this is 2011. You are lecturing people on success in 2011. You are doing it while leading people to believe YOU are successful in 2011 with repeated references to living on content sales and doing well. Now we see you are actually living off of 1 or 2 governments and not porn. SHOCKER!

You can keep bringing up your interpretation of me going there to meet you. The fact is, I called you out for being a fake, delusional douche bag pretending to be successful after all these years and your response was to call me a liar and denied i ever met you or that we knew each other, because you felt that was a safe stance, until I started posting pics as proof. You denied ever meeting me, you denied every aspect of it. Even though it was super clear to you that I wasn't lying being that I was describing the inside of your own home to do. You decided to roll the dice and keep lying until I posted pics.

That's exactly how full of shit you are.

Furthermore, I do what I do. My income since I was 20 has rarely dipped below 6 figures. I've never been good with money and never tried to be good. I try to use it to enjoy life, travel and have fun. I haven't amassed a large amount of wealth and don't claim to have. From adult over the years my income has ranged in porn from 6 figures a month, to 5, to 4 and back. I've made millions. I've risked millions. I've lost millions as well. It's never been static. I've made and lost more than you will ever see in 10 lifetimes. I've never really bragged about making money on here that I can recall.

Also, I am not a gfy "bro" clinging to the past or trying to keep impressing people with bullshit claims of continued success and fortune. You've done far more of that than I ever could. I don't pretend to be super wealthy from porn. BUT, (and this is an important distinction between you and me), i also don't come here and lecture the most successful people on how to conduct their business and make money as I understand how retarded that is. I don't do that anymore than I lecture NASA on how to travel to Mars. You however, spend your free time doing just that. You are too delusional, insane and demented to even understand how delusional, insane and demented you are.

The only reason I even pay any attention at all to this board and people on it and the biz is because I have sites that still passively make more money than you do.

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Can I haz a design order to redo your '95 ish thing http://www.paulmarkhamcash.com ?

How much? Best be cheap because I'm running down the business.

I suppose I had best explain again for those who don't catch on. Getting traffic is easy. Traffic sellers will sells 100,000s of uniques very cheap. So for them it has to be easy, and if you can afford it for anyone else it's cheap.

Yes it's shit traffic, which is why they're selling it cheap.

Same applies to content. Good stuff costs a lot, because it's worth a lot.

So getting traffic is easy.

Getting very very good traffic is hard and getting harder. Getting average traffic requires a lot of traffic. A simple rule is. The the easier the traffic the harder the sale.

So the "No traffic" argument falls flat on it's face. Open a paysite, email traffic sellers and before you know the site's getting 1,000s of hits. No sales, just 1,000s of hits.

Similar goes for a Tube site, WarChild says he converts at around 1-500 off a Tube site. That's 499 saying no, which IMO makes it crap traffic. What he won't tell us is how many people are satisfied with his free porn, before 1 clicks a banner and how hard he has to work to get the initial traffic. Does it mostly come from SE or traffic guys? Probably a mix.

Traffic is easy to get, getting sales is the tough part. Getting enough traffic to make sales is also tough. Which I never claimed was easy.

Now if a non traffic guy knows this, why don't all the trolls?

That was a joke trolls.

porno jew · 09-20-2011, 10:46 AM

so clueless. just stop.

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

Except in paul's case it's the other way around ;)

True, so I turned it around. All I need is enough rats to name after the trolls who follow me. No not rats, little mice.

Paul Markham · 09-20-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

so clueless. just stop.

Now we have a koshered mouse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

The only reason I even pay any attention at all to this board and people on it and the biz is because I have sites that still passively make more money than you do.

Yes of course you do.

Call the exterminator.

Just Alex · 09-20-2011, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Getting traffic is easy. Traffic sellers will sells 100,000s of uniques very cheap. So for them it has to be easy, and if you can afford it for anyone else it's cheap.

God, you're a moron. If this was so easy your paulmarkhamteens.com would be on par with met-art by now and robbie was playing golf with Warren Buffett. But its not.

TheSquealer · 09-20-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Now we have a koshered mouse.

Yes of course you do.

Call the exterminator.

You generate 2k or less a month in sales. That's not a huge task Paul. It's a pathetic thing to admit that you've been doing something for 34 years and are failing miserably at it.

There is only one person in this biz that I ever show sites/stats to and that is Sly. You can ask him, he's well known for being a stand up guy. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and know your place. You are officially nobody in 2011. You are a has been. You are a failure. You keep pretending otherwise, which is why you are now the joke we tell at parties.

papill0n · 09-20-2011, 12:37 PM

complete waste of time - Im embarrased I ever got sucked down to his level of ignorance

Stef. · 09-20-2011, 01:11 PM

I'm amazed at how unproductive some people waste their time here...

You have all been Markham'ed.

I understand that the guy is full of contradictions and reach sometimes new levels of pathetic, so that any good soul can't leave the poor ederly man alone in the dark. But, please stop. I hate it when his threads always bump to the top.

09-19-2011, 04:56 PM	#59
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09-19-2011, 05:10 PM	#62
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09-19-2011, 05:14 PM	#63
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09-19-2011, 07:41 PM	#65
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Please stop arguing in these threads. Let the crazy old man ramble on without an audience. __________________ .

09-20-2011, 02:32 AM	#77
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09-19-2011, 02:04 PM	#51
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	50 oblivious old fools.

09-19-2011, 02:36 PM	#54
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	youre a fucking photgrapher paul - get over yourself mate you are the most arrogant, ignorant cunt here fucking troll

09-19-2011, 02:38 PM	#55
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	your combined traffic after 34 years in the biz < 500 uniques a day sux to be you homegirl

09-19-2011, 05:00 PM	#60
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	/thread

09-19-2011, 08:02 PM	#66
EukerVoorn So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Les Alpes, France Posts: 1,423	My signup ratio has always been between 1/250 and 1/500 (and in the VHS/DVD mailorder days it was 1/1000) and I've always been happy with that (well untill I started using Zombaio because they don't process credit card, they decline them hahahahahaha). For the rest I'm curious about what Paul has to say, since he's an old fart I sure us punks can learn things from him. Also I'm seriously considering giving all my older content away for free using tubes, that should generate a lot of traffic because I'm one of the best pornographers in the world (together with 10,000 others lol). I now find my content (old and new) back on thousands of tube sites so I might as well give it away for free, in better quality than these tube sites do and without ads/pop ups, hidden catches and other crap. Are we on the same page here Paul?

09-19-2011, 11:06 PM	#71
Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	nobody really knows what adapt or die is... people just repeat it, because its like a slogan, but nobody knows what it really means.

09-20-2011, 06:41 AM	#82
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09-20-2011, 06:48 AM	#83
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09-20-2011, 07:06 AM	#85
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	So what could of been done? Well some things were so obvious and it beggars belief others didn't pick it up. Many offline companies came into online. The list is huge. Few came over 100% Like me they used online as another level to their business. From Hustler to guys shooting shooting content. They could get extra income from online porn they were getting from offline porn. Site owners or shooters could of sold their content to magazines or DVD companies. None did or weren't able to. I'm sure many designers or programmers went into mainstream to not do so was limiting their market. Generally was there more coming in from offline porn than from online into offline? A lot of sites made a big feature of a single girl. Few could afford to employ girls exclusive like companies like Wicked and Vivid could. Which is a big fail. Robbie, SGS and others will tell you how well it works. Yet few did it. No multi girl site did it properly and that's crazy. They just kept adding more and more girls, just piling it up. And the Internet is the perfect medium for having girls under contract to work on the site full time. The girls are there to talk to members, do live shows for many, do them 1-1. The possibilities are there to utilize the instant access of the Internet and take it beyond a place to down load videos. And it's easy. Members like a girl, vote for her, talk to the shooter to see if she's right for the job, get her in to do some test days. If she's good sign her up. Surfers hit the site and see a great girl whose unique and exclusive to the site. Better than that, she's going to be online in a few hours time to see for the price of a membership. Suddenly it's not just her, there's a couple more in the site. And the CC is out on this site rather than another one. Maybe more would sign for online porn with this model. Doesn't matter to the site owner, more sign up to his site. So why wasn't this done? Cost of a girl working full time for a site I suspect is the main reason. The big talk everyone loves to spout, isn't backed up in the real world. A girl would cost around $4,000 a month. $10 profit a sign up = 400 sign ups or retained members. Just over 13 a day. How many more surfers would join this site rather than another? How many affiliates would rather send traffic to this site rather than another? What if the site, which has to be big not the usual Ma & Pa operation. Cuts down on a scene a day, so rather than adding 3 - 5 scenes a day they add 2-4? They have enough content already and now they have a real live girl. The scene can be recorded and added to the site at little cost. To me, if my business was paysites and we were the size we were in 2005/6 it would of been a no brainer, assuming we could find English speaking girls in 2005 and we approached a few sponsors to do live scenes as a feed. Content production is our game, not paysites. Before you shoot down this entire post on that last sentence. Tell us why you wouldn't send traffic to a site with live girls on or why you wouldn't do it if your main business is or was paysites? Today recorded porn is free everywhere and easier and better than buying. Yet we still all seem to be stuck trying to sell recorded porn. Where's the adaptation? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

09-20-2011, 07:37 AM	#90
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09-20-2011, 10:46 AM	#94
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	so clueless. just stop.

09-20-2011, 12:37 PM	#99
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	complete waste of time - Im embarrased I ever got sucked down to his level of ignorance

09-20-2011, 01:11 PM	#100
Stef. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995	I'm amazed at how unproductive some people waste their time here... You have all been Markham'ed. I understand that the guy is full of contradictions and reach sometimes new levels of pathetic, so that any good soul can't leave the poor ederly man alone in the dark. But, please stop. I hate it when his threads always bump to the top. __________________ Try RSTGP : A Really Simple FREE Thumb Rotator Script. You Can Build A Complete TGP Site In 20 Minutes... contact me if you have questions (example site : Teen Sex Galleries ) Sexy Cams Online