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I didn't realize those guys ran underage non nude site, that's fucking sad. I was thinking about trying out her first gang bang, but I stay away from anyone who wants pedophiles as customers. I'd hate to see if they have any upsells inside those sites.
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She has a considerable amount of free content, lots of her...at her Asian site China town girls...she looks as fiesty as she is, too. The site is easy to promote because you can promote her with her picks...and the surfer gets to see her on the tour. Very effective come conversion time. so often the tours have nothing to do with the content. Or your FPA, free site, TGP what ever doesn't have content that is featured on the tour. It really is a good technique. I haven't asked her to marry me or anything, I'm probably too old and worn out for her. hehehe..but her site does have relevant and useful content.
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But don't quote, me I really could not tell for certain. I looked at JRN about 3-4 months ago. I'm sure regular hardcore sites convert well.
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Boy what a mess this turned into.
I dont think sweetdominique is underage for starters. easiest thing to is check the 2257's and be sure, no? Kiko has always been tough, and she's been around a long time. I'm not so sure I agree with her comment regarding women keeping their mouth shut about what they don't like, actually I don't agree with that at all. Aly, PK, Sammi, Lee Noga, and plenty more have been known to speak up on many occasions thru the years. So that doesn't hold water at all. I did read the way this mess got going and I don't think it was Kiko speaking up, but rather the way she phrased things that caused the fire to spread so fast. Of course the responses in that thread -- ESPECIALLY from people who had no business sticking their two cents into it the way they did, only exacerbated the problem. People in this business come with all shapes, sizes and attitudes -- thankfully the customers do too or there'd be one kind of porn that made money and that would be all... I'm sure that if Easton and Kiko want to work things out they can, probably without alot of the peanut gallery kicking in. |
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Dominique looks of age to me and I always assumed she was, even from the tour. What? Just because she's over 18 means she HAS to pose nude? Bull shit.
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which non-nude site are they running by the way...
p.s. non-nude sites are usually made to have underaged girls in sexy poses... while keeping it legal... I dont think there's many n-nude sites featuring adults... |
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"Its their choice to shoot non-nude, not ours. We respect their choice and dont force them to do anything that they want to."
Cmon, this is a no spin zone. Those girls are meant to appear underage and cash in on the NN niche. |
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Ok those sites.... But p.s. why no mention of her age at that page? ![]() http://sweetdominique.com/tour/about_me.html |
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For the record, I don't like forced sex depictions either. Not at all. However, I understand that the actors are all mostly consensual about it, and being paid rather well for the most part, but that's not the point. The point is that some people do like to view that sort of thing, and whose to thumb their nose at them for having those interests? Where do well allow the line of censorship to be drawn? I'm telling you, start censoring content like Easton's and the pro-censorship assholes will then come calling for sites like Kiko's. If you think they'll stop, you're out to lunch. Same thing with people who promote, produce, or like to watch horror-fantasy-gore-goth-death shit and other extreme niche stuff. People have fantasies, and other people deliver the goods to them. Big deal. It's called the law of supply and demand. Calling others that promote other genres that you may not agree with "bottom feeders" is what is unproductive for this industry. Let's try and mind our own stores and respect the rights of others instead of fingerpointing. Now, if women were truly being abused against their will that's another story entirely. But until that happens, live and let live.
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Yeah but feeding the fantasy when the fantasy itself is illegal...is moraly wrong.... and might be soon simply illegal.... Thats why it can hurt the biz... Fake rape sites, fake CP sites... nobody is directly harm but it just feed a wrong fantasy... And that can be dangerous... An by being legal, it also has a desensitization effect... ( they think it no big deal..) |
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And it is rather simplistic to say certain sites are "illegal" because they may be illegal in some states and countries, but perfectly legal in others. People are going to have their fantasies whether we *feed them* or not. There are all sorts of depictions of forced sex, rape, and murder in movies and on TV. Sure we know they are "only acted-out scenes" with paid actors, so that makes it okay, right? Wrong. If it's okay for TV and movies, then it's okay for websites. Censorshjp is really an "all or nothing" kind of game... it isn't selective.
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That doesn't mean the cops are coming to my door now does it? Fantasy and action are two entirely separate things -- girls that are not underage but wearing clothes are just as legitimate as girls that are not underage but aren't wearing clothes. I've seen chicks in Maxim etc that aren't very old, girls in perfume ads etc that definitely weren't even 18, and weren't wearing clothes, or the ones they were wearing made me blush. I am NOT defending underage nude sites, I don't personally care for them but you know what? I'm not the internet police and neither are you. The line that is drawn is called the LAW. Once you fail to recognize the law as the line then you have opened the door for every possible sexual practice that someone finds disturbing or shameful to be whisked away as well -- and trust me that would include gay sex, anal sex, oral sex, hell sex between 2 people that weren't married in some instances. |
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![]() Yes, you can see a rape on tv, describe on the news, or talk about in a song... If people want to fantasize there... be my guest... but you wont have much to fantasize about... and the goal was not to feed the fantasy but to describe something... On the other end, if you make a movie or writting a song promoting rape... you are feeding a dangerous fantasy... and if you cannot see that... you are high or stupid... |
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Hey hey easy there.... You have have misunderstood..!? look, you have the fantasy of Rape..... I then said , that fantazy,, which is Rape is illigal.... Never said that thinking about it was illegal! edit: or the fantasy of an illegal act... |
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No, the thing most law enforcement agencies have a problem with is when people "counsel" others to commit rape (or hate crimes, or whatever). Counselling is the key word here. On a website that offers video content depicting actors acting out forced sex scenes there is no counselling going on, it's merely there for the viewing pleasure of paying adults. Period. The end. Again you are confusing things. I hope I've helped to clear them up some for you.
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Ted Bundy collected hardcore porn and he was a serial killer!
John Hinckley was obsessed with the hero from the movie Taxi Driver and he tried to assassinate the President! Therefore all people who watch violence and porn will do bad things. ![]()
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No sorry, Im not confusing anything here... However, Im not sure If I understood your last post.... Feeding a sick mind of illigal fantasies ( or fantasies of illegal act) is dangerous... Ask any experts dealing with pedophiles... And yes, if I make a movie about the rape fantasy, I promote the fantasy... And the more you fantasize about something.. the more are the chances of you comitting that fantasy... |
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And no expert in pedophilia will say unoquivically that if I look at CP for any length of time that I *will* go out and commit acts of pedophilia. If they do they are overstepping themselves. Quote:
The problem is with people who don't seem to be able to recognize the difference between fantasy and reality. It is usually they who have a problem with tolerating anything other than what they deem as "appropriate" viewing, and it is they who are always squawking to promote censorship of this site or that book or that movie, whatever. Your statement of "And the more you fantasize about something.. the more are the chances of you comitting that fantasy" is exactly what people say when they're trying to blame some tragedy on a movie or song or something other than where the blame belongs. People love to blame anything but themselves. Look at the Columbine murders.... people tried to blame songs and tv violence etc... yet the rest of us are watching that same violence and aren't shooting up schools. Why? It's a big topic. Think about it some more.
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so...? and whats their point? I think porn is still legal... as for fantisizing about 3somes(out of marriage sex)... etc... well tough luck... its not illegal... if people are really afraid of being "corrupt" by the 3some fantasy... they can put out rules about porn before getting toghether.... |
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And I think youre twisting things a little... First, you need to have the fantasy... if you dont have it... looking for hours at CP wont do much.... And if you have it... yes, looking at CP will feed the fantasy... That doesnt mean you'll go and rape a child... That depends of your consience, self-control, etc.... Quote:
AS for those arguments.... please Give to a suicidal guy a movie that glamorize suicide... he'll might not kill himself... but the chances grow... Give to a teen that want to be cool a cd where they glamorize smoking pot... he might not start smoking it... but the chances grow... and I could go on and on and on.... It's a big topic. Think about it some more. ![]() |
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Not illegal of course. How about dasies , pink and bablue? Thumbsucking and so on? The impression i get from Kiko and some other boards is that as long as they are seasoned pornstars with silicone tits, looking like aliens . They can be degraded and depicted in any which why but if they are next door neighbour girls scrambling for some college money thats near pedophilia. Possibly even someones daughter...
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They are not underage non nude sites ! Just for the record, We only lend Sweet Dominique technical support and help with some of her pictures. She takes care of most of the site herself and she has done a successful job with out even having to take off her clothes. Non Nude does not mean pedophile, It is just another niche and doesn't get the respect it deserves. !
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Once again, I can sit around here and think all day about how I'd like to see some slow and painful deaths to board members. I mean really slow and really painful and to quite specific members. Does that mean I am going to buy rope, kerosene, napalm, 3 in one oil, honey or a case of ball gags? Or does that mean I will be more likely to the longer I think about it? Get real. |
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Yeah you guys are right, no one joins sweet Domonique because they think she's underage. Her market isn't pedophiles at all. Right.
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Easton doesnt exclusively own the program so its not his place to go throwign numbers out into the public and he realised that later and approached us at the companies request to fix it if he was favoured - dont you thnk we'd have gone and chnaged the whoel thing ? or if he was favoured we'd have deleted the whoel thread as he requested I have spoken to Easton on ICQ about this as hs Firehorse we have decided that the thread will remain despite his wanting its removal if any of you guys had a program - im sure you wouldnt want someone throwing your figures about in the open so no sides wree taken as to Kiko Vs easton - we just did what is right in regards to a third party who was personally not involved in the argument ... if the site owners had wanted to giev their stats and join the battle - im sure they would have doen so .. but they didnt |
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Kiko *does* come off as a bitch, because most people cant take a girl with some spunk and self respect.. a little too assertive and you are a bitch. Poor girl. On the topic of this thread.... while I dont personally like hfgb or fishhooking, I dont think the sites should be taken offline nor do I think they are bottom feeders. The sad thing is, I think; is that most men do like to see shit like that. So, if the site appeals to most guys, I can't see how it is bottom feeding. The sweetdominique or whatever site DOES bother me personally... when I first saw it, first thing I thought was "here is a cute 15 yr old girl flirting with old men, disgusting"... but I have heard of easton and co and what I have heard tells me they run a really legit operation... so I figured the girl had to be legal. And no, I don't think it should be taken off the net either... it is legal and thus has a honest right to operate. Who am I to dispute that? |
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