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Old 12-03-2011, 01:18 AM   #101
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Robbie, a beer it is then... I am not offended by you not attending the keynote. I think you have a COMPLETELY wrong view of myself though...

Regarding your comments re crippled or not and buying companies... People sell for many reasons, not only because their business is going down. As I said, we bought nobody that was declining. Twistys for example also was growing and doing very well... Anyway, this is off-topic.. we'll see if we can sit down for a beer in Vegas in Jan... would be fun I am sure...
Okay. When you get to town send one of your minions to find me and I'll get my phone number to you and then just call me at your convenience and we'll have a drink together.
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:20 AM   #102
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sucks to be Casting.XXX ..........

unless Fabian is a hypocrite and lets them set up a non .XXX domain to funnel joins through.

allowing .XXX to use non .XXX domains to support a .XXX site is hypocrisy.
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:51 AM   #103
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Okay. When you get to town send one of your minions to find me and I'll get my phone number to you and then just call me at your convenience and we'll have a drink together.
I would like to be a fly on that wall...
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+1 for Manwin.

Now if they would just do the same thing for piracy...
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:28 AM   #105
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sucks to be Casting.XXX ..........

unless Fabian is a hypocrite and lets them set up a non .XXX domain to funnel joins through.

allowing .XXX to use non .XXX domains to support a .XXX site is hypocrisy.
He said the site they send their traffic to must not in any way promote the .XXX site.
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Okay. When you get to town send one of your minions to find me and I'll get my phone number to you and then just call me at your convenience and we'll have a drink together.
Wish I was gonna be in Vegas for this alone. Screw the show.
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:44 AM   #107
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He said the site they send their traffic to must not in any way promote the .XXX site.
...and clarified saying that ifriends.com could send traffic, but not ifriends.xxx

So long as the facade doesn't mention XXX, it seems they're good to go. Never mind that ifriends actually (implicitly) support XXX
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:01 AM   #108
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Okay. When you get to town send one of your minions to find me and I'll get my phone number to you and then just call me at your convenience and we'll have a drink together.
and send another one for me, I'd like to commemorate this momentous occasion
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:09 AM   #109
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Yep, and just imagine...IF we had all been able to "take a stand" a couple of years back, "Manwin" would still be a tiny company that nobody cared about because they wouldn't have been able to steal everybodies content and post it up for free while they made millions off of their dating and cam ads on pornhub.
And if the Internet had never been invented .............

I'm very critical of Manwin, but this is a very good move by them. It needs others to step to the plate and then we'll see IF the rest of the business has balls.

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Old 12-03-2011, 04:28 AM   #110
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Hmmm...does that mean that you don't have to worry about your content being stolen if you have a .xxx domain?
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:37 AM   #111
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Yep, and just imagine...IF we had all been able to "take a stand" a couple of years back, "Manwin" would still be a tiny company that nobody cared about because they wouldn't have been able to steal everybodies content and post it up for free while they made millions off of their dating and cam ads on pornhub.
It would of made no difference. You're dreaming.

From somewhere Manwin got the money to buy Mansef, or it was a change of name and figure head.

They also had money to invest in their sites.

One of which was Pornhub and until someone can prove they upload the content that is assumed "user uploads" or they ignore DMCA notices they have broken no laws. This whole industry allows unrestricted access to under 18s, so none of us are "whiter than white".

They continue to invest when most are shrinking.

I hate the piracy aspect of porn. Long before it cost me a penny I was fighting it. But hating Manwin because they are taking a lot of the traffic and turning it into free loaders is hypocritical coming from anyone who had a TGP site. That was what you did to the magazine industry 10 years ago. Just evolution and we were the dinosaurs fighting free porn. The business has changed and we need to change with it or retire.

As for them buying up sites. The sellers as you point out won't sell if everything is going well. They will sell if they're offered the right price. Even RK would sell if the price was right.

This is a good move and shows the rest of the industry what they should be doing. Send .xxx to Coventry. And it withers on the vine. Play it's game and others refuse to play and they go down with it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:49 AM   #112
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Really?

Apparently Manwin is confused about whether it wants to bring antitrust claims or commit antitrust violations.

We find it ironic that a company that's accusing us of anti-competitive tactics is taking such an anti-competitive action that could cause potential financial harm to the same webmasters they claim they're trying to help.
It's up to them who they do business with or chose not to. Good luck with any legal action.

Manwin have shown you clearly how fragile your TLD is. Without porn sites taking up this domain it will just result in a lot of blank pages on type ins. That's people looking for a specific site and putting in the .xxx extension.

Search engines can't list sites that don't exist and won't give the ones that do have the extension good rankings unless a lot of other sites link to their .xxx domain.

If the porn on these sites is the crap end of the business, the surfers will see that. If the Tubes and free sites can't find people to business with, they won't use the TLD.

To survive a coupe f years you have to get porn onto .xxx extensions. Or it dies a death. Unless you can get Governments to pass laws banning porn on nothing but .xxx. With the prospect of ISPs and mobiles carriers offering "a child friendly environment" there's a strong likely hood .xxx will get an auto ban from these service providers. Sticking another harpoon into the floundering whale.

Forget about 3rd world countries banning .xxx. The amount of money coming from them is miniscule. Worry about major ISPs and mobile phone carriers banning anything on a .xxx.

Get your CV up to date.
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December 2, 2011 ? LUXEMBOURG ? In addition to the lawsuit filed on November 16, 2011, Manwin has determined to cease any and all Internet liaisons with the .XXX Top Level Domain.

As of today, Manwin has banned all activities between its brands and internet sites registered with a .XXX TLD.

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http://business.avn.com/articles/tec...LD-456064.html
That's a very good move. Congrats
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XXX is just a newer scam.

Watch the video, it's hilarious! McAfee? Micropayment? get the fuck out of Here.

I am gonna buy the ".porn" extension and sell it to you guys for $20 / Domain (better deal)
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all this uproar just reminds me when tubes were on the horizon and it was...

Popular GFY host: "I will not host tubes sites."

Few months later, same host: "We will begin hosting tubes as this industry has begun to accept them"

everyone will be friends again in 6 months and be the popunders will flow.

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Robbie, a beer it is then... I am not offended by you not attending the keynote. I think you have a COMPLETELY wrong view of myself though...

Regarding your comments re crippled or not and buying companies... People sell for many reasons, not only because their business is going down. As I said, we bought nobody that was declining. Twistys for example also was growing and doing very well... Anyway, this is off-topic.. we'll see if we can sit down for a beer in Vegas in Jan... would be fun I am sure...
Do everyone a huge favour and show Robbie a peak at the kind of volume just one of your tubes does selling memberships to paysites so he can finally shut the fuck up about tubes not selling memberships and being only about cams and dating.
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Fabian can you ensure that any content from http://www.shemale.xxx and http://www.ladyboy.xxx doesn't hit any tube sites or other sites you run, please?

Thanks - that would be a great help.
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Would be a good time for other program owners to jump on the bandwagon, release an anti-.xxx statement and get some publicity in the process.
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Fabian can you ensure that any content from http://www.shemale.xxx and http://www.ladyboy.xxx doesn't hit any tube sites or other sites you run, please?

Thanks - that would be a great help.
They will not be approved for the content partner program or any ads on tj
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Okay. When you get to town send one of your minions to find me and I'll get my phone number to you and then just call me at your convenience and we'll have a drink together.
I would pay more to watch this meeting than I would to attend the show.
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Rather than paying to fly to Vegas he'll probably be user uploaded to Vegas.

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well there goes all casting.xxx sales.

edit: missed a few http://www.pornhub.com/users/CastingXXX

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Yeah...looks like the team at Pornhub didn't read the press release.

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I'll keep Claudia company while you guys have some beers.
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If I remember correctly, this is starting to sound like the Network Solutions monopoly and ".com" problem all over again
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How about when somebody steals it and posts it.
Will I have to spend time and expense DMCA'ing it - or can you watch out for the big clear Shemale.XXX logo over it?
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Would be fun to stream that live on GFY like the GFY awards we did
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How about when somebody steals it and posts it.
Will I have to spend time and expense DMCA'ing it - or can you watch out for the big clear Shemale.XXX logo over it?
This is not going to turn into a DMCA discussion, sorry.
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This is not going to turn into a DMCA discussion, sorry.
So that would be NO. You'll continue to allow our content clearly marked with shemale.xxx to be pilfered and uploaded to your tube sites for you to make profit, therefore doing business with websites using the .xxx tld.
Only Manwin could be so hypocritical. You are doing business with .xxx domains.

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I read somewhere on the internet that xxx. is the ghetto TLD which is a haven for illegal pornography, scammers and other bad shit.
Yup, filled entirely with viruses and tracking software I hear. You would have to be an idiot to JUST VISIT a .xxx domain, let alone use a credit card on one of them!

.xxx sites should be avoided like the plague. The public should be aware. They need to be warned about this.

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Do everyone a huge favour and show Robbie a peak at the kind of volume just one of your tubes does selling memberships to paysites so he can finally shut the fuck up about tubes not selling memberships and being only about cams and dating.
How about you do everyone a huge favor and karate chop your penis a few times. That is providing of course, that you can find it.

In the event that that proves difficult, you can always buy some of them penis pills advertised on Fabian's "user upload" sites

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Allow me to quarterback this little spat for the thinking impaired:

-ICM offers Manwin a sweet backroom bro deal, in exchange for their support during their application.

-Manwin supports ICM

-Manwin attempts to collect on what was promised.

-ICM sells them some primo names, but not all of what was promised and not at prices in the ballpark of what was promised. ICM is now "too big for their britches" and is holding out on Manwin, or trying to extort more money than what was agreed to.

-Manwin files suit, grandstands, and then settles things like a top notch bro behind closed doors.

-Industry imbeciles get out their pom-poms, thinking that the two biggest threats to their own financial livelyhood doing battle will somehow benefit them.
this guy knows what time it is
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Really?

Apparently Manwin is confused about whether it wants to bring antitrust claims or commit antitrust violations.

We find it ironic that a company that's accusing us of anti-competitive tactics is taking such an anti-competitive action that could cause potential financial harm to the same webmasters they claim they're trying to help.
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:45 PM   #141
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I would pay more to watch this meeting than I would to attend the show.
Robbie should video it and put it out on Youtube.
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This is a remarkably diverse and entertaining set of opinions in one thread. ;-)

Love, Hate, Suspicion, Intrigue and conspiracy theories rotate though each and every post!

I LOVE this industry at moments like this!

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p.s Go Fabian! (cheerleader pom-pom here at Wasteland with a buttplug as the handle, custom crafted for some pasty fat old British guy's ass.)
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:00 PM   #143
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Really?

Apparently Manwin is confused about whether it wants to bring antitrust claims or commit antitrust violations.

We find it ironic that a company that's accusing us of anti-competitive tactics is taking such an anti-competitive action that could cause potential financial harm to the same webmasters they claim they're trying to help.
What webmasters is Manwin trying to help?
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One other thing that I am finding wildly amusing of late is that adult industry pundit, Dark Lady ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theresa-darklady-reed ) posted up a Seth MacFarlane cartoon as a parody of ICM Registry on October 19th. A LONG time before the current wave of Dot-xxx spots hit the airway. See it here for a good laugh: http://dotxxxopposition.com/2011/10/...-icm-registry/

Is Dark Lady a psychic and knew they were going to play the "sheep card"?
Or, (more likely) is she just brilliant at satire and parody.

I've been in this industry since 1994, and the current set of variables are just grand to watch develop!

Anyway, bookmark http://dotxxxopposition.com/ as that is the real hidden gem run by Dark Lady for news and views of the ICM carpetbagging from an insider perspective, not influenced or bribed by the various powers.
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Speaking of Dark Lady, she just posted. It's brilliant:
http://dotxxxopposition.com/2011/12/...that-into-you/
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I would pay more to watch this meeting than I would to attend the show.



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This is a remarkably diverse and entertaining set of opinions in one thread. ;-)

Love, Hate, Suspicion, Intrigue and conspiracy theories rotate though each and every post!

I LOVE this industry at moments like this!

Colin

p.s Go Fabian! (cheerleader pom-pom here at Wasteland with a buttplug as the handle, custom crafted for some pasty fat old British guy's ass.)
Shhhhhh... you had me at buttplug as a handle.
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So that would be NO. You'll continue to allow our content clearly marked with shemale.xxx to be pilfered and uploaded to your tube sites for you to make profit, therefore doing business with websites using the .xxx tld.
Only Manwin could be so hypocritical. You are doing business with .xxx domains.
Did anyone really expect anything different? This sudden manwin asskissingfest is enough to make you want to throw up.
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60 million visitors a day... The reason people hate manwin is because they aren't manwin.

Anybody saying otherwise is lying.
crack dealers , 100 million hits a day , the reason people hate crack dealers is because they aren't crack dealers.

Anybody saying otherwise is lying.
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