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Nathan · 06-16-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

BF, do you believe Fabian doesn't know what accounts were created by Mansef for inhouse and paid uploaders? Or do you believe he was told to pretend he doesn't know about them by his legal council?

Content that we had reason to believe was POSSIBLY uploaded by inhouse people has long been removed. We removed all content associated with certain accounts and those accounts themself shortly after acquiring the tube sites.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 07:59 AM

Literally broadcast thievery much ?

DWB · 06-16-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Regarding what Mansef did or did not do, I am sure you understand that I simply can not comment on those things. However much I would like to, I can not. Its the same as me not being able to comment publicly on their seizures of money in the US. Obviously I know more than you about it since it happened in the middle of contract negotiations, but there is things in contracts which prohibit me from speaking about it, even if I would love to openly agree or deny certain facts...

When we ever meet in person, ask me again, maybe I can answer you then.

No, I totally understand why you can't comment on it. No need to explain. My point was that you can't, but it goes without saying you know what they did.

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DWB, sorry, forgot one thing... in one of your posts above you claimed that we do not have a repeat infringer policy... that is not correct, we have one and it is actively being used.

I vaguely remember going through this a long time ago with you. You would stop them from uploading but not delete their other videos. There was a member with something like over 2000 videos. You were going to check with your legal team about if you could or not and I don't recall seeing anything after that. All I know is YouTube does it, and they did it to me. They have a strike policy and then they delete your account and all of your videos, for any reason they see fit that you have violated their terms. Facebook does it too. You get a few warnings then they delete your entire page with all of your content. So you should be able to do that as well.

Side note, the irony of the youtube and facebook issues were due to false DMCAs sent on content I owned. It sucks, but that's how it plays out sometimes. They don't even reply to counter DMCAs, and what am I going to do, sue the two largest media companies on the internet?

DWB · 06-16-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Content that we had reason to believe was POSSIBLY uploaded by inhouse people has long been removed. We removed all content associated with certain accounts and those accounts themself shortly after acquiring the tube sites.

That is actually good to hear. I honestly didn't think you would have done that or have been instructed legally to not acknowledge it.

Nathan · 06-16-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

No, I totally understand why you can't comment on it. No need to explain. My point was that you can't, but it goes without saying you know what they did.

I vaguely remember going through this a long time ago with you. You would stop them from uploading but not delete their other videos. There was a member with something like over 2000 videos. You were going to check with your legal team about if you could or not and I don't recall seeing anything after that. All I know is YouTube does it, and they did it to me. They have a strike policy and then they delete your account and all of your videos, for any reason they see fit that you have violated their terms. Facebook does it too. You get a few warnings then they delete your entire page with all of your content. So you should be able to do that as well.

Side note, the irony of the youtube and facebook issues were due to false DMCAs sent on content I owned. It sucks, but that's how it plays out sometimes. They don't even reply to counter DMCAs, and what am I going to do, sue the two largest media companies on the internet?

This was only a problem with old accounts, new accounts that upload content which gets DMCA'd get blocked so fast, they usually do not fill up with content first.

And yes, you should, because per DMCA they have to react to counter notices...

Barefootsies · 06-16-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

There is nothing in any law book that says they can't require a real email address. That has nothing to do with DMCA or Safe Harbor.

That alone, an email address, is not the issue. However, the rest of the premise is a slippery slope legally. I think it is a great common sense idea, make no mistake about it. But I also see the flip side of the coin legally, and within the so-called justice system.

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And I don't believe change is coming from them, even if they claim it will come slowly. It is in their benefit to not change and keep doing what they are doing. Their traffic and success of their tube sites 99% depend on piracy via random uploaders.

I believe they are making an honest attempt, that is my personal feeling.

However, I think it is a balancing act. I say this from my own actual experience, and understanding of the market, or the tube site business. Even on small tubes, it is difficult to deal with those just uploading for ego, or whatever. You have people willing to upload large volumes of shit just so they can be the first to post a link on some forum. Not even for money. Just for being "cool".

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Originally Posted by DWB

BF, do you believe Fabian doesn't know what accounts were created by Mansef for inhouse and paid uploaders? Or do you believe he was told to pretend he doesn't know about them by his legal council?

I think Nathan/Fabian/whatthefuckever is a figurehead of a corporate conglomerate. I believe he has layers that advise him what he can, and cannot say publicly. I think they are probably making some level of a best effort to deal with this issue, but can't openly admit that they are doing any level of oversight that could be used in court.

I see things from a different point of view per se. More so from the ugly side of how corporate America works, from my years before porn. I think that Schultz is really trying to balance out being a good corporate porn citizen, without completely destroying their business model (i.e. losing all of the traffic).

Just like the CCBill threads of the past week, once things are BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION, you may see some results. Same as Schultz has mentioned that when they get DMCA's, they act on them. What I am getting at here is, once something is brought up they deal with it. But they are not going to openly admit they go looking for it, as legally they could be on the hook.

I would say this is probably what his team of lawyers in Vegas have advised him, but that is just my guess. If you have a whole legal team with you at a conference, I would say that they probably have given you some parameters and public 'corporate line', you must operate within.

Nathan · 06-16-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

That is actually good to hear. I honestly didn't think you would have done that or have been instructed legally to not acknowledge it.

Certain things my lawyers instruct me to do, I do not really care about.. or forget... in this case, I have no clue if they ever told me not to acknowledge or not... so you got lucky ;)

DWB · 06-16-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

DWB, Oron did NOT TURN OFF THEIR AFFILIATE PROGRAM. Their affiliate program was invite only since the beginning of the year now, since Megaupload was shut down. They selectively remove people from it. Their affiliate program is still up and running the same as before CCBill shut their billing down.

A handful of their affiliates are screaming about closed accounts on some of the boards. I know it's still open for some.

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Maybe you should wait and see what their hosting does or does not do in the next couple of weeks... who knows, things change...

I hope that is foreshadowing.

Nathan · 06-16-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

A handful of their affiliates are screaming about closed accounts on some of the boards. I know it's still open for some.

I saw that too, I also think that what you are seeing on those boards is the tip of the iceberg. I have some numbers of what some of those file hosts have in terms of profit a month, the numbers you see there on those boards are peanuts. Its the small people complaining... just as it happens so often on adult boards... The big fish, you will not see, they have nothing to complain about.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 08:11 AM

I'm a fucking Megalodon bitch.

Barefootsies · 06-16-2012, 08:12 AM

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I'm a fucking Megalodon bitch.

No. You're a fucking idiot.

SZNY · 06-16-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Also if you turn up to a seminar to give a talk, dress like a man who owns a 9 figure company, or part of it or someone who gets a decent wage. It's insulting to dress as you did. Don't announce 9 figures investment or loan sums until you're spending it and ready to show the purchases. Don't put some poor kid up in front of an audience of vipers who are looking to strike him. And don't send anyone here until he's welcome. It's all bad or foolish PR, the last one being cruel to the victim.

Who cares how someone looks like? You can't judge people on that !

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

No. You're a fucking idiot.

Paul Markham · 06-16-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

tony, CCBill stopping billing for file lockers was more complicated than DWB finding some links that he could complain about.

If you really think CCBill let's themselves be bullied by the likes of DWB..... That CCBill stopped billing for them is great, do not get me wrong. It also changed basically nothing though. They will have new billing in place on Monday, and they will continue. Fighting these sites has to be done at their roots, not at the top leafs. Their ability to host needs to be destroyed. Only then will this be in any way successful. Take down Oron, preferably seizing their equipment, and they are dead in the water. All files gone at once. This has to be the goal... Not trying to solve a problem by blackmailing CCBill and in the wake causing huge issues for all of adult by posting child porn links all over fucking GFY...

There are places in the world with hosting companies that won't give a fuck. you need to go through a court to achieve what you suggest.

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SZNY, if I would go around promoting who I give money to for fighting piracy, people like DWB or Mike will start trying to discredit those people because they think they are being bribed or such by Manwin.

So I leave it up to those organizations to do PR on it or not, I am not doing this for the publicity, I'm doing it to make more money by selling our premium products.

This is why you need to get a PR company to reform your image. It makes people think you have something else to hide. No one is going to curse you for throwing MW's weight and money behind this, if you do in straight and openly.

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As I said above... taking out their revenue stream is causing them a headache for day until they have a new one, there are too many out there. Although I agree its a nice thing to annoy them with... and I am sure we will at some point be able to make sure paypal nolonger supports these sites...

Get a PR man.

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Rip out their hosting and hardware from under their feet and they get into real problems.

Get lawyers around the world.

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I agree, sending DMCA's is not fighting piracy, its a part of selling digital content.

And pirating it. AND has roved pointless.

Get behind this fight by funding someone else or setting it up and getting a good PR company to advise you. You're a 9 figure company for goodness sake, act like one.

Nathan · 06-16-2012, 08:38 AM

Paul, I hate suits, I would never wear them, only only wear jeans and hoodies, I am comfortable with it and thats how it is...

Barefootsies · 06-16-2012, 08:40 AM

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Paul, I hate suits, I would never wear them, only only wear jeans and hoodies, I am comfortable with it and thats how it is...

Did we ever get an official answer to how many toilets are in each of the various Manwin corporate offices?

MaDalton · 06-16-2012, 08:40 AM

careful with the hoodies when you go to florida

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Did we ever get an official answer to how many toilets are in each of the various Manwin corporate offices?

what's more exhausting, being a moron or a sycophant ?

adendreams · 06-16-2012, 08:44 AM

Ringside seat to some heavyweight banter.

(not Paul's frivolousness, have a seat codger)

Barefootsies · 06-16-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

careful with the hoodies when you go to florida

I do not think whitey, with those 80's deck shoes, would have an issue even in Florida.

candyflip · 06-16-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dsadsa

what's more exhausting, being a moron or a sycophant ?

He plays both parts quite well.

AdultKing · 06-16-2012, 08:46 AM

Well folks you heard it here first, Paul Markham is now a stylist and fashion consultant.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 08:50 AM

There is $ in stopping theft.

Nathan · 06-16-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Did we ever get an official answer to how many toilets are in each of the various Manwin corporate offices?

You know whats funny! You will not believe it, but we actually DID have an issue with our toilets! We had to add 2 more stalls each female/male on our ground floor because we are building a cafeteria and thus need more toilets there!

SZNY · 06-16-2012, 08:56 AM

Lool for sure some people are now very curious what the total toilet count is :D

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 08:56 AM

Nobody cares about the quantitative shit of your employees.
They care about the money you pilfer.

Barefootsies · 06-16-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

He plays both parts quite well.

Yawn.... Back to derail another good discussion thread I see. Typical of burgerflip. (rolls eyes)

It figures you would have nothing of value to add to an actual business discussion. Although that is not really surprising to the rest of us to be honest. Now go along an make us some more .50ct iphone apps. Sell a couple of dozen before noon, and you can buy yourself a happy meal on your lunch break.

Carry on.

Barefootsies · 06-16-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

You know whats funny! You will not believe it, but we actually DID have an issue with our toilets! We had to add 2 more stalls each female/male on our ground floor because we are building a cafeteria and thus need more toilets there!

Please make sure you update Paul on the new count, as he is keeping the official tally.

Paul Markham · 06-16-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Breaking piracy rules, what are you talking about? And RYC has made it very clear they are not interested to work with us. Nate _loves_ me... ;) And why should I show you any of our DMCA's, just trying to figure out what good this will do me? I am looking into submitting them to the dmca database being discussed on xbiz.net...

Then set up your own department to deal with this aspect of fighting piracy. We need more than a one pronged attack.

You're not showing them to me, you're showing them to all of us. If you can't figure out the good it will do you. Get a PR man to tell you.

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Although I like the fact that it worked this time, I do not think this is a wise idea to do. 1) It will attract unneeded attention by Visa and MC to the whole adult industry and 2) The processor can always claim that people are not buying the CONTENT, they are simply buying the premium membership to the file locker. That there is illegal content on the file locker is secondary.

You're side stepping the issue. Unwarranted attention. In the event that the credit cards ban all online porn. MW is made. You'll be up there with the industry giants and will over take them. Online isn't the only way to sell porn.

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I am however setting up an semi in-house department right now which is going to do something similar, yes.

Good, then use it as PR. That for MW is a big bonus.

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Uhm seriously, I dress however the fuck I want to. IF you have a problem with that, thats your problem... The "kid" that did the xbiz seminar enjoyed it, and got a ton of positive feedback after the Q&A.

You're not dressing to please yourself, do that in the office. You're dressing to be in front of an audience you want to appeal to as the top man in a big company.

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He has no issue doing it again, the same way. He reacted absolutely correct to all questions thrown at him after Mike's remarks. The seminar was absolutely what we expected and went quite tame at the end to be honest... Just because Mike and his friends here post and laugh how bad it looked, does not mean nobody liked the seminar. It was one of the most visited seminars at xbiz miami and got far more than 90% positive feedback from the attendees.

Seriously, get a PR man.

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We have PR people, and if she is reading it she is likely shaking her head in disbelief... ;) And even if I would write "Hello" it would rattle certain people up here, and I am not going to let people deny me to speak my mind, especially not after lies get thrown around by people like Mike South as if its all fun and games... I do not care if I get flamed, it does not hurt me...

Then listen to her.

It might not hurt you, it doesn't help MW.

AdultKing · 06-16-2012, 09:01 AM

Someone offline just pointed out to me that someone is cybersquatting brazzers.com.au

Might want to look at that one Nathan.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 09:04 AM

I love it Paul/DWB you are both getting very specific with someone you both comprehend to be full of useless gestures. Please, continue

Three.Thousand · 06-16-2012, 09:09 AM

Require people who wants to upload content to provide proof of identity and address.
then tell them they are free to upload whhhhaaatever they want, as long as they have the rights to it. Also make them aware of that in case of a DMCA coming one for for said content, their! contact details will be handed over.

that should still cover your safe harbor right?

Paul Markham · 06-16-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Paul, I hate suits, I would never wear them, only only wear jeans and hoodies, I am comfortable with it and thats how it is...

It's not only about what you like. It's about respect for the audience. Dressing like this at best shows arrogance.

Dirty shoes, old jeans which look like they were bought from a charity shop, what's with the white mark? Get jeans that look like they haven't been in bought second hand, buy some decent loafers. hoodies are fine. Just don't turn up in the one the janitor loaned you.

You announced a 9 figure loan or investment. How much are a new pair of Levi's, new loafers and a decent hoodie? T-shirt. Don't even start me on that. What happened to the money? Been 6 months since you announced it.

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Originally Posted by SZNY

Who cares how someone looks like? You can't judge people on that !

Everyone does. It forms a mental picture of the man, his attitude towards himself and his respect for others. And people do judge others by their appearance.

Tell that to the girls tonight when they appear online.

Barefootsies · 06-16-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Three.Thousand

Require people who wants to upload content to provide proof of identity and address.
then tell them they are free to upload whhhhaaatever they want, as long as they have the rights to it. Also make them aware of that in case of a DMCA coming one for for said content, their! contact details will be handed over.

that should still cover your safe harbor right?

Another good idea. However, that is basically putting Manwin in the legal/compliance/enforcement business. Which I wholeheartedly believe they are trying to avoid. Again, I am not saying it's right or wrong. They have a business to run.

It's the same reason that ISPs are fighting some of the new proposed laws. Why would they want to be put into a position, forced by law, where they have to hire additional staff to manage all of those claims?? When some companies have razor thin margins, why would they want to bring legal/compliant/extra people on staff to clean up the mess?

Ultimately, I think that is what the biggest issue in this fight is. Who is going to PAY FOR IT. Whether it's an ISP, Google, Manwin, whomever it takes staff to do these things. All of those things come with a cost, and that does not even get into the legal aspect of liability.

Record, media, porn companies all want enforcement,... but no one wants to pay for it. Until all of those things can be answered, you are always going to have push back from the various different interests. Neither ISP's, search engines, nor billing companies, want to be the internet police.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-16-2012, 09:22 AM

Intellectual property theft is a criminal offense, all this law/yer talk stinks of methane.

epitome · 06-16-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Well folks you heard it here first, Paul Markham is now a stylist and fashion consultant.

Paul will say he's right because Zuck went from being worth 20 billion to only 10 because he refuses to wear anything but hoodies and jeans.

adendreams · 06-16-2012, 10:22 AM

Love him or hate him, I think Fabe's choice of clothing in vegas was rock star.

The jealousy oozing out of Markham is just palpable.

Three.Thousand · 06-16-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Ultimately, I think that is what the biggest issue in this fight is. Who is going to PAY FOR IT. Whether it's an ISP, Google, Manwin, whomever it takes staff to do these things. All of those things come with a cost, and that does not even get into the legal aspect of liability.

I'd say its a cost that comes with when u decide that this it the kind of business u wan to run.
kind of like like when u decide to shoot porn, u gonna have to caugh up the cost for a camera.

if not, then one can always put the money in to creating ones own content and not rely on others to provide it.

Also, my "idea" above is of course a semi joke. in theory its great, but in reality it does not work. not at all. 100% does not work, and im not saying that because i think it, i say it because we have tried it.

L-Pink · 06-16-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by adendreams

Love him or hate him, I think Fabe's choice of clothing in vegas was rock star.

The jealousy oozing out of Markham is just palpable.

Rock stars don't wear socks with their deck shoes. Nerds do.

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adendreams · 06-16-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Rock stars don't wear socks with their deck shoes. Nerds do.

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If there was a rock star of the Nerds seems like he would be it. After all didn't he write Nats?

Slappin Fish · 06-16-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

DWB, Oron did NOT TURN OFF THEIR AFFILIATE PROGRAM. Their affiliate program was invite only since the beginning of the year now, since Megaupload was shut down. They selectively remove people from it. Their affiliate program is still up and running the same as before CCBill shut their billing down.

Maybe you should wait and see what their hosting does or does not do in the next couple of weeks... who knows, things change...

True.

You know quite a bit about file lockers Fabian, you want to discuss filesonic.com or will your lawyers just issue a statement?

Robbie · 06-16-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by adendreams

After all didn't he write Nats?

Yeah, the shitty version years ago that has long since been completely re-written.

(sorry Fabian, couldn't resist that one...)

Nathan · 06-16-2012, 11:27 AM

Slappin, I have nothing to do with Filesonic. Neither does Manwin.

Robbie, want to ask John if he agrees with you?

Robbie · 06-16-2012, 11:33 AM

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Robbie, want to ask John if he agrees with you?

I don't know John personally. I just use NATS. And I know that you were an employee who has been gone a long time. And NATS has been re-written a lot of times since you were gone. That's all.

And keep up the good work! You give hope to hundreds of millions of people who have no experience in a particular line of work (porn in this instance) and who are just employees making a salary... that they too can one day magically have a hundred million dollars and be a huge "success" like you!

You truly are an inspiration!

All the things you did and built in the last couple of years and the new ideas and...oh wait a minute, that's right: You used magic money to "acquire" a bunch of pirate sites and then bought up a bunch of other companies that (ironically) were so crippled by piracy that it was low hanging fruit. You've never actually built ANYTHING from the ground up.

Sorry.

MaDalton · 06-16-2012, 11:38 AM

Robbie · 06-16-2012, 11:43 AM

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L-Pink · 06-16-2012, 11:44 AM

Oh shit

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Nathan · 06-16-2012, 11:47 AM

Right, magic money

Btw, I never was an employee of TMM (NATS). I owned 1/3rd. But that little detail which I said multiple time to this day completely passes you by ;)

And yes, all the sites and companies I bought were crippled... Totally! I love you Robbie

Slappin Fish · 06-16-2012, 11:54 AM

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Slappin, I have nothing to do with Filesonic. Neither does Manwin.

Robbie, want to ask John if he agrees with you?

Of course you don't. and never have?

That was some interesting whois screenshots in the thread you had yanked from gfy in record time.

Your recent shift towards respectability is easily explained, after acquiring so many programs Manwin would actually profit from a slowing down of pirac., doesn't mean me we should all forgive and forget.

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adendreams Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LA and Florida Posts: 1,887	Love him or hate him, I think Fabe's choice of clothing in vegas was rock star. The jealousy oozing out of Markham is just palpable. __________________ Aden - Your Content Shooter Superfreak ADEN CONTENT · HD Video · Ex-GF · Am Content · Pro Content · PHP Programming · Package Deals • Skype or ICQ available on request •

06-16-2012, 11:27 AM	#144
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Slappin, I have nothing to do with Filesonic. Neither does Manwin. Robbie, want to ask John if he agrees with you? __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

06-16-2012, 11:38 AM	#146
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,821	__________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

06-16-2012, 11:44 AM	#148
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	Oh shit .

06-16-2012, 11:47 AM	#149
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Right, magic money Btw, I never was an employee of TMM (NATS). I owned 1/3rd. But that little detail which I said multiple time to this day completely passes you by ;) And yes, all the sites and companies I bought were crippled... Totally! I love you Robbie __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger