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spiederman 05-07-2014 11:15 AM

Free bump

DamianJ 05-07-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20062053)
Watch this space, I think even you will be impressed when it happens. It's taking most of my time at the moment.

Look forward to it.

AdultKing 05-08-2014 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 20079127)
Look forward to it.

This sub project is pretty much taking most of our time, however if anyone has any particular issues with problem sites they can contact us as normal.

http://copycontrol.org/contact-us

or send copies of all DMCA notices to [email protected] and escalations to [email protected]

Alex911 05-10-2014 12:05 PM

AK I need some advise here: this siterip of our website keeps being reactivated with mirror links on k2s.cc, I feel I'm playing wack a mole :Oh crap

xXXtesy10 05-10-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 20082573)
AK I need some advise here: this siterip of our website keeps being reactivated with mirror links on k2s.cc, I feel I'm playing wack a mole :Oh crap

You should sue them. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

AdPatron 05-10-2014 02:46 PM

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Never even heard of it.

Fat Panda 05-10-2014 02:58 PM

keep up the good work! its time to take down these parasitic motherfuckers (billers, ad networks, tubes, lockers, etc) who facilitate content theft and cyber crime

castrate these criminal fucking maggots

jódete 05-10-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AdPatron (Post 20082714)
Never even heard of it.

lol @ the advertising in your reply title :1orglaugh
are you that god damn soup kitchen broke ???? :1orglaugh

AdultKing 05-10-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20082709)
You should sue them. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

It's not always that simple. In fact it's pretty much never that simple.

In some cases it's just not possible to find out who the real owners of the site are - it's not worth spending thousands to end up suing a shill.

In other cases it takes a lot of time, effort and money to fully investigate each and every infringement - you also want to have fully investigated the full business/company structures involved, the assets they hold, the assets the principals hold or control and so forth so you know precisely what to have frozen if an asset seizure is part of an action.

Lawyers, investigation, research and so forth all takes considerable time and money - you want to be very sure when you start an action what your aims are in doing so.

There are plenty of ways to skin a cat - shutting down merchant accounts, domains, web hosting - keeping the pirates on the move works extremely well and does make a difference.

We're working on some really interesting stuff right now. Watch this space as always.

AdultKing 05-10-2014 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 20082573)
AK I need some advise here: this siterip of our website keeps being reactivated with mirror links on k2s.cc, I feel I'm playing wack a mole :Oh crap

Contact me off the forum about k2s. http://copycontrol.org/contact-us

johnnyloadproductions 05-10-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20082891)
Watch this space as always.

Indeed :winkwink:

Not that it's directly relevant, but this thread should hit 1 million views by the middle of next week, a milestone to consider still.
There are contest threads and a few other threads with more replies than this one, but I think this thread holds records for actual people reading and viewing, not just bots.

johnnyloadproductions 05-13-2014 11:40 AM

A little under 1500 views to go. :)

Bumpage.

Alex911 05-13-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20082892)
Contact me off the forum about k2s. http://copycontrol.org/contact-us

Bump just to ask if you got my msg :winkwink:

AdultKing 05-13-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 20085628)
Bump just to ask if you got my msg :winkwink:

You should have an email now.

AdultKing 05-14-2014 04:58 AM

1 year, 10 months, 18 days, coming up to two years of killing off file lockers.

MrDeiz 05-14-2014 05:09 AM

congrats on the rusults!
thx for what you're doing and wishing you the best

Alex911 05-14-2014 08:24 AM

Hadopi Recommends Super Injunctions to Keep Pirate Content Down
 
https://torrentfreak.com/hadopi-reco...t-down-140512/

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MIQ?s recommendations begin with what is now forming into somewhat of an industry standard tactic for dealing with ?pirate? sites, that of hitting their finances.
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Another proposal foresees the creation of a master list of sites deemed to be engaged in ?massive? breaches of copyright. While various lists of this nature already exist in several places around the world, such as at City of London Police, they have until now remained secret. MIQ recommends that the French list is made publicly available, for several key reasons.

- To update the public about the legality of sites online
- To allow advertising and payment industry players to make informed decisions
Finally some authorities begin to understand how huge the problem is, unfortunately this is just a french project... yet :thumbsup:thumbsup

adultmobile 05-14-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20086289)
1 year, 10 months, 18 days, coming up to two years of killing off file lockers.

Nice, given you got not much support from content owners. But, you should kill the blogs and portals linking to file lockers too. People would not find the files if these was hosted in file lockers but not linked. Here an alexa traffic for past 2 years of a few I just found with an easy search (found one, they link each others anyway):

http://www.naughtyblog.org
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=340...aughtyblog.org

http://pornorips.com
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=340...=pornorips.com

http://hidefporn.ws
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=340...u=hidefporn.ws

They seem to have got nice profits the past 2 years, perhaps they had to change file lockers as soon as you killed, but these sites are where really the surfers land (users do not land on the filelockers directly), and as alexa shows, kept up all the 2 years time, with daily updates.

Daily updates, perfect descriptions and screenshots, niche search, all better managed and user friendly than most the legal webmaster's sites with fhg's, and same URL in 2+ years, no downtimes or url changes. If the siterip files it was just hosted in file lockers but not presented with screencaps, description and organised by niche this way, it would be less massive. Also they link each other so they're all bro's:

http://www.pornleech.eu
http://www.site-rip.org
http://www.hotpornfile.org
http://putenbrust.net/news.php
http://pornshare.biz
http://theteenbay.com
http://lustex.net
http://porndownisland.com
http://needforporn.com
http://www.p0rn-downloads.com
http://bestporn24.com
... (each of these got a "friends" list and so on)

Of course there are the "forums" too, like forumophilia etc., these was discussed already enough and in fact these forums are up still too.

RazorSharpe 05-14-2014 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 20086450)
https://torrentfreak.com/hadopi-reco...t-down-140512/





Finally some authorities begin to understand how huge the problem is, unfortunately this is just a french project... yet :thumbsup:thumbsup

Some of the comments on that post are, quite frankly, scary! I can't imagine how people can so brazenly defend their "right" to steal simply because something is "not affordable".

"I need a new car but it's not affordable so I'll just go and steal one!"

Is this where society is headed?

georgeyw 05-14-2014 04:22 PM

just a quick bump

johnnyloadproductions 05-14-2014 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20086289)
1 year, 10 months, 18 days, coming up to two years of killing off file lockers.

Yes great job, and a close 2nd on the accomplishments you should be proud of is 1 million views on this thread, thats definitely something to go celebrate a night out on! :upsidedow

AdultKing 05-14-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20086489)
Nice, given you got not much support from content owners. But, you should kill the blogs and portals linking to file lockers too. People would not find the files if these was hosted in file lockers but not linked. Here an alexa traffic for past 2 years of a few I just found with an easy search (found one, they link each others anyway)

We do go after forums, blogs, link lists as well. We have over 40,000 of them in our databases and around 2% of those are responsible for around 80% of traffic received by sites in that list.

Some of these sites are really big in terms of numbers of users and traffic they receive.

Planet Suzy is an obvious one, but that's not the biggest by a stretch.

Knocking out forums/blogs with advertising requires taking away their ad income, some ad networks and some sponsors, including sponsors active on GFY, don't care about piracy. In fact I would go so far as saying that at least one large cam sponsor actively goes out trying to get the business of large pirate sites.

These challenges lead us to pursue novel options, some of which will take time to come to fruition. In every case hitting the finances or infrastructure of piracy operations or those who support the piracy operations is the most effective strategy, along with having domains seized and web hosting disrupted.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 20086450)
https://torrentfreak.com/hadopi-reco...t-down-140512/

Finally some authorities begin to understand how huge the problem is, unfortunately this is just a french project... yet :thumbsup:thumbsup

It's a slow process of educating those who can make decisions and influence or drive policy.

The law has always been behind when it comes to the advances on the net and piracy is no exception.

Just as merchant acquirers, banks, financial service providers are being educated about cyberlockers and the high risk nature of them, Government needs to be educated about the online piracy problem and the most effective ways to combat it.

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20086518)
Some of the comments on that post are, quite frankly, scary! I can't imagine how people can so brazenly defend their "right" to steal simply because something is "not affordable".

"I need a new car but it's not affordable so I'll just go and steal one!"

Is this where society is headed?

I agreee.

The pirates will come up with endless justification for what they do, however none of them get over the basic fact that a rights holder has the right to determine who uses their content and on what terms.

People complain the distribution system is at fault, or that prices for content are too high so they have a right to steal it. Well I'm sorry, it's not a human right to be able to watch the latest episode of Game of Thrones at low cost.

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20087127)
Yes great job, and a close 2nd on the accomplishments you should be proud of is 1 million views on this thread, thats definitely something to go celebrate a night out on! :upsidedow

As long as we can remain an irritant to pirates then I'm happy.

adultmobile 05-17-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20087221)
Knocking out forums/blogs with advertising requires taking away their ad income, some ad networks and some sponsors, including sponsors active on GFY, don't care about piracy. In fact I would go so far as saying that at least one large cam sponsor actively goes out trying to get the business of large pirate sites.
These challenges lead us to pursue novel options, some of which will take time to come to fruition.

This thread, despite the 1 million views, really it is no more popular. I had to scroll 3 pages to find it to write this reply. Threads about funny youtube videos are way more popular in GFY, than discussing about sponsors of piracy sites, it's like reading a blackhat forum after all.

Actually, as a cam program/sponsor, I do not buy ads in piracy sites, but that's mostly because other (also cam) sponsors buy there already, keeping price too high. Even higher than buying in more legitimate places. Guess what.

AdultKing 05-17-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20089926)
This thread, despite the 1 million views, really it is no more popular. I had to scroll 3 pages to find it to write this reply. Threads about funny youtube videos are way more popular in GFY, than discussing about sponsors of piracy sites, it's like reading a blackhat forum after all.

I add to the thread when there is news to report. I've been off work for the last few days so not much new has happened since the thread hit 1million views.

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Actually, as a cam program/sponsor, I do not buy ads in piracy sites, but that's mostly because other (also cam) sponsors buy there already, keeping price too high. Even higher than buying in more legitimate places. Guess what.
You're right. Cam sponsors are prolific on piracy sites and few of them care about the interests of rights holders. Just go to any large pirate forum and you'll get cam pounders, ads, popups, redirects and so forth.

In my opinion the only way to get cam programs like AWE to respond to the issue of piracy is to hit their merchant accounts. If anyone has any better ideas I'd like to hear them.

adultmobile 05-18-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20089930)
In my opinion the only way to get cam programs like AWE to respond to the issue of piracy is to hit their merchant accounts. If anyone has any better ideas I'd like to hear them.

While it is true that the only way to stop piracy operations it is to cut their biller and money streams (let it be advertising), also think at side effects. Note that I am not actively against piracy, I am simply not promoting it, and keeping myself safe from any side effect I may get by have anything to do with them, or by sharing providers with them, up to what's possible.

For example I use the same bank and biller system of AWE for my merchant, that's also used by visit-x in germany and other cam sites, that I don't think are advertising in piracy sites. What if you or anyone else messes with the same infrastructure I use, and that other (innocent at least about piracy) companies are sharing? There's not many adult merchant providers and all of them bill for at least one of those cam sites you often talk about.

Why sharing biller it matters? I once used a payment processing system, ok honest people, who was however also used by someone for gambling processing (without their knowledge): when the gambling guy was investigated, the judge let seize the whole payment processor with all accounts, not just the account of the gambling idiot - so I had some $80,000 seized and got back only part of it after like a year, and I was fully innocent, as well as the processors (well, they had perhaps to check deeper all their user's business, to catch the gambler early, but...).

Regarding hosting, I went with MojoHost after checking that, up to my knowledge, they host no any "illegal tube" or piracy or whatever bad site it may be seized at any time. Some of their competitors had nice prices and reviews, but they are hosting lots of questionable sites (some you talked about too), so I did not wanted to risk to share datacenters with people who may cause "too large" seizures, including my "innocent" sites.

Especially because, adult sites are not deemed as innocent by most banks or judges, no mater you paid tax and all, so if you get into a side effect and complain, people in charge may think "but that's a porn site, sure made something wrong anyway, and God hates him, let's keep him seized/in trouble".

AdultKing 05-18-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20090810)
For example I use the same bank and biller system of AWE for my merchant, that's also used by visit-x in germany and other cam sites, that I don't think are advertising in piracy sites. What if you or anyone else messes with the same infrastructure I use, and that other (innocent at least about piracy) companies are sharing? There's not many adult merchant providers and all of them bill for at least one of those cam sites you often talk about.

Unless you share Merchant Accounts then you are completely safe.

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Why sharing biller it matters? I once used a payment processing system, ok honest people, who was however also used by someone for gambling processing (without their knowledge): when the gambling guy was investigated, the judge let seize the whole payment processor with all accounts, not just the account of the gambling idiot - so I had some $80,000 seized and got back only part of it after like a year, and I was fully innocent, as well as the processors (well, they had perhaps to check deeper all their user's business, to catch the gambler early, but...).
As I said above unless you are sharing Merchant Accounts then you are quite safe.


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Regarding hosting, I went with MojoHost after checking that, up to my knowledge, they host no any "illegal tube" or piracy or whatever bad site it may be seized at any time. Some of their competitors had nice prices and reviews, but they are hosting lots of questionable sites (some you talked about too), so I did not wanted to risk to share datacenters with people who may cause "too large" seizures, including my "innocent" sites.
Usually with hosting, seizures of servers is usually restricted to the servers that the unlawful activity is being carried out on. However most times the pirates will not know that they are being looked at because the servers drives are cloned with a warrant and the required evidence is taken without disrupting the servers.

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Especially because, adult sites are not deemed as innocent by most banks or judges, no mater you paid tax and all, so if you get into a side effect and complain, people in charge may think "but that's a porn site, sure made something wrong anyway, and God hates him, let's keep him seized/in trouble".
You'll find the only collateral damage suffered from what we do is that when we deny services to commercial piracy then often server bills are not paid, affiliates of the pirates are not paid and people actually in some way connected to the piracy suffer a loss. Which is how it should be.

Three.Thousand 05-19-2014 02:28 AM

And one can only guess how many of those sites are owned by people on this forum. Adapt or die...

WDF 05-21-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 20091403)
And one can only guess how many of those sites are owned by people on this forum.

The number is large but not as large as some might think.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 20091403)
Adapt or die...


I respectfully disagree, that is the lazy mans perspective.

If it is your property, fight for it, defend it, it is your right to do so.

adultmobile 05-21-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 20091403)
And one can only guess how many of those sites are owned by people on this forum. Adapt or die...

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20094575)
The number is large but not as large as some might think.

People can still do whois and other checks, email them fake partnership requests and end up knowing who they are. Like the investigation just made for Zombaio that it ended with personal facebook and linkedin pages posted - ah but Zombaio did not paid, that's for other reason.

WDF 05-21-2014 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20094923)
People can still do whois and other checks, email them fake partnership requests and end up knowing who they are. Like the investigation just made for Zombaio that it ended with personal facebook and linkedin pages posted - ah but Zombaio did not paid, that's for other reason.

Agreed, some of the information is readily available to the public that do their due diligence. Some is not however, reviewing information from a file hosting site recently produced a email used in a GFY members GFY signature as a payments account.

There are cases where the true operators identity is well hidden to most.

pornguy 05-21-2014 02:11 PM

AdultKing have you made any progress in getting the Registrars to take the domains. Seems like that would be the easiest and fastest way.

No domain, no site.

AdultKing 05-21-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 20095076)
AdultKing have you made any progress in getting the Registrars to take the domains. Seems like that would be the easiest and fastest way.

No domain, no site.

In theory it's a great strategy, however it's more difficult to put into practice.

That said we're working on something at the moment along these lines.

Triple-A 05-28-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20095118)
In theory it's a great strategy, however it's more difficult to put into practice.

That said we're working on something at the moment along these lines.

This would be a most welcome development! :thumbsup

AdultKing 06-02-2014 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 20103265)
This would be a most welcome development! :thumbsup

A large number of pirate sites have gravitated to certain ccTLDs in the mistaken belief that these are safer than .com .net .org

Very soon this mistaken belief will cost several large pirate sites everything.

MrDeiz 06-02-2014 04:15 AM

hey AK
nice to see it's going. any serious updates?

AdultKing 06-02-2014 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 20108028)
hey AK
nice to see it's going. any serious updates?

Nothing I can share publicly at this stage.

AdultKing 06-04-2014 09:56 AM

This is something we always knew, but it's good that there's some mainstream media reporting on the problem.

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LOS ANGELES — Movie and music piracy thrives online in part because crafty website operators receive advertising dollars from major companies like Comcast, Ford and McDonald’s.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...958_story.html

xXXtesy10 06-04-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 20108028)
hey AK
nice to see it's going. any serious updates?

Yes.. you are next asshole.

AdultKing 06-05-2014 02:33 AM

We're now having Facebook remove pages run by pirates.

Today we had 37 Facebook pages removed as a trial run and will ramp this up over the next few days.

We'll also be re-instating our report piracy web form with extra options to be able to include Facebook pages, Twitter accounts and other social media accounts.

I expect to be able to get removals happening from Pinterest in coming weeks, we just need to figure out the best workflow for handling pins.

AdultKing 06-11-2014 01:43 PM

A new Rapidgator update

http://stopfilelockers.com/rapidgato...e-piracy-site/

AdultKing 06-11-2014 01:45 PM

We need your help.

Please consider sending a donation to the Stop File Lockers project.

Paxum payments can be made to [email protected]

or you can contribute to Copy Control at http://copycontrol.org/contribute

Every dollar helps us keep this fight going and now more than ever we need your support.

We are taking the fight right up to Visa and Mastercard now that we have full co-operation from P2P payment processors such as Paypal.

8pt-buck 06-11-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20120776)
We need your help.

Please consider sending a donation to the Stop File Lockers project.

Paxum payments can be made to [email protected]

or you can contribute to Copy Control at http://copycontrol.org/contribute

Every dollar helps us keep this fight going and now more than ever we need your support.

We are taking the fight right up to Visa and Mastercard now that we have full co-operation from P2P payment processors such as Paypal.


Cash flow remains the fundamental importance. Finding and retaining supporters is a crucial task. So when looking for areas of your business to start measuring and analyzing, it's worth asking yourself, have I preformed?

Seeing yourself through supporters' eyes of your trivial low-level accomplishments, the answer should be no.

DamianJ 06-11-2014 02:57 PM

I guess if you'd done more in the last however many years than *claim* to have stopped one fairly large locker, and several no one had ever heard of, you'd be better placed asking for more money.

Fat Panda 06-11-2014 03:11 PM

Keep up the great work AK!

Now in conjunction with Visa / MC take on despicable ADULT AD NETWORKS that willfully conspire with tube sites to monetize illegal content.

Go NUCLEAR on these motherfuckers!

WDF 06-11-2014 03:33 PM

Is this the new angle, post a link back to your site to another article that says nothing new?

You and I both know you can do better.

Did you like the attention your Facebook post got from SD and WJ?

I noticed how you are pointing out the massive availability of adult content on RG, isn't that true of most file lockers?

You used the word "pornography" and the name of the 2 major credit card issuers in the same paragraph. I am sure that will get mounds of co-operation from them.

Robert post the things "the powers that be" will not allow you to post here on your site.

Good luck with your continuing campaign.:thumbsup

AdultKing 06-11-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20120899)
Is this the new angle, post a link back to your site to another article that says nothing new?

The post is strategic, which should become clear in due course.

What is SD ?

WDF 06-11-2014 04:08 PM

I did note the mention of M/c and Visa and the massive amount of adult content being paid for with their processing.

SD=Scrolldog, Richard Humphrey's pirate news site.

You know the USAwarez/Sex offender/convicted criminal copyright infringer guy from Ohio.

AdultKing 06-11-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20120937)
I did note the mention of M/c and Visa and the massive amount of adult content being paid for with their processing.

SD=Scrolldog, Richard Humphrey's pirate news site.

You know the USAwarez/Sex offender/convicted criminal copyright infringer guy from Ohio.

Ah, is he still banging on with his crap ? He's pretty irrelevant to us.

WDF 06-11-2014 04:52 PM

Sometimes you have to look closely for the gems hidden in the crap though.

We look over everything we can, you might be surprised what you find. They tell on themselves and others.

Captain Kawaii 06-16-2014 09:08 AM

Any way to kill sites like JAVZoo dot com ? New concept for me.


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