mromro

I just start making progress and it seems every other month or so traffic drops again! WTF!!!!! Google!
and all of my free hosted blogs traffic dropped alot and I have all clean sites. WTF do they want?
Anybody else see this?

signupdamnit

You could have been hit by the EMD update maybe. If you want to do good in google just embed videos from other sites with stolen content, interlink all your sites like this, and buy a few back links. Despite what Matt Cutts says it's the way to rank and what Google rewards.

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mromro

so now your domains should not be exact matches? WTF!?!?!?!?

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signupdamnit

Well not exactly. Basically your domains should not be EMD with little backlinks or traffic. That's what it comes down to. Of course they use the term "low quality" but it mostly comes down to backlinks. The penalties apply to some and not others primarily depending on back links (quality back links = better). No one will admit that but it's what is being seen.

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shake

I still do really well with my exact match domains, provided they have unique content. The ones which have too many incoming exact match keyword links (same keyword in the link as the domain) are dropped to page 200+ For me that was the issue. Make sure incoming link keywords are a little different than your domain keywords.

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Django

diversify the anchors, i think/do the same thing.

Dating Port

I saw a traffic drop but it was my paid traffic sources, not me.

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mromro

I'll try and find this article I read about exact match keywords to the domain. It was a big seo company and they published their results after all the google updates.
They said sites that had exact match keywords to the domain did better and were not effected by the updates.
The sites that had multiple keywords or diversified anchors linking into the site were affected the most.

They said it was better to have links pointing to the site with the domain or site name in it. my site name or mysitename.com

anexsia

Yeah I had a little bit of a traffic drop too, this is the first Google update that has effected me negatively . It sucks because I spent the last month really churning out blog after blog and had gained lots of traffic and now some of it's gone.

BUT, just watch it for a week or so...I find that after a couple of weeks the traffic usually evens out from the updates and goes back to normal. It's hard to see exactly what effect it has had until after a little bit of time has passed and the rankings settle down.

RachelBlackG

I really don't know why but my site is always hit by some bigger G update. I have big drop too. All content is made by hand and updated every day. Whats the current update about?

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helterskelter808

Why don't you try churning out sites that are genuinely useful and interesting to people, instead of polluting the internet with ever more worthless junk? The more Google cracks down on worthless spammed shit like that the better.

Denny

Low-quality EMDs.

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Fat Panda

i gained a little but this shit will flip back in 2-3 days or so

MyDogHasFleas

Good backlinks + frequent unique updates = good rankings. It isn't all that hard really. It is only hard when you try to half ass it. Lazy SEO ends up being more work in the long run.

rogueteens

I don't care, i lost all my google traffic during the last update. G can do what it wants now, it cannot get any worse.

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RachelBlackG

What does it mean please?

Fat Panda

exact match domains

SpicyM

Great! Finally I see those dick heads with exact match domains containing only 1 page with just links and banners being removed from the listing!

Google finally does what they had announced - listing relevant sites!!

RachelBlackG

Hmm I don't have exact domain name and it caught me too.

Denny

Exact Match Domains

Example: your kw "free porn videos" , EMD: freepornvideos.tld

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mromro

Ok. So. I guess google doesn't like domains that tell what the site is about.
From all the search results I guess they like sites that give shit away for free.
The only website that is allowed to make money is google. They say don't have outgoing links to affiliates but that is all they have on their pages. We really have to get rid of google. where are the monopoly busters now. I guess they are all bought and paid for.

baggg

This update is supposed to wipe out low quality EMD sites,one page sites made for adsense,however,on other forums people raging and say that they lost non-EMD sites even authority sites.So it looks like mr matt cunts is playing his little games again...anyone in Cali can go and slap the fat fuck please?(btw im uneffected with this update..)

Dirty F

You act like they owe you something.

tfs

Its a shame that Google is allowed to control the majority of internet traffic.

Bossman

Looks like another huge SEO win for the tubes, who have first taken your content, and then uses your name to list it.

Google wants to give surfers want they want, and surfers do not want to pay for anything. So this will just continue as long as adult site owners and content producers don't protect their content by going after illegal copies of it.

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nico-t

funny shit. First backlinks, now exact match domains.

Recipe to success in a few year is probably a domain carsale.com which is about weight loss with 0 backlinks -> #1

signupdamnit

People miss the obvious with Google. It's increasingly relying on back link profiles in one way or another to determine ranking. such as whether it largely determines ranking order or whether or not penalties apply. But this is obviously flawed. A user doesn't care how many back links a page has or what the site's alexa ranking is. The user only cares about finding the relevant content which they are looking for. But the geniuses at Google have forgotten this. The primary legitimate use the back link signal has is to help determine whether a site is spam. That's it. It should never have been used for these other purposes. Doing so is like ranking men by morality based on how many suits they own. It just doesn't make any sense and even if there is a correlation you should keep in mind that it isn't an ideal factor to use. It's just that now everyone is used to such madness.

Interesting reading: https://www.google.com/search?q="google+is+becoming+useless" (irony)

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helterskelter808

Instead of whining about Google, you should take a lesson from them. They are where they are because they give people what they want. And what people don't want is useless spammed blogs with no content.

So who is going to get rid of Google? All the people who use it because it tries to give them what they want? Or a handful of crybabies who don't like the fact Google is cracking down on useless spam sites with no real content?

Good luck with your crusade.

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show me your stats and I would be able to see it.

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Ok so many sites lost google traffic, so where this same traffic ended up? Someone should accordiingly say: "I got lots more traffic since last google update" who is that.

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Bossman

Google must still be tweaking, some of our EMD are moving back up to where they belong - lets see how it looks in a day or two.

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Django

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mce

Here's a little tip. When doing backlinks for your EMD, focus a higher percentage on pushing your EMD as a "brand". Google seems to have a hard on for brand strategies recently. Expect it to make a bigger impact in the next updates for Penguin. It makes sense though-people SHOULD be branding their site properties. The old generic link strategies don't make much sense - at least from the end user's perspective.

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Badmaash

okay, so lets say that my domain is called economistjobs.tld so how exactly shall I backlink as a brand?

Can you giva an example pls........ ?

I take it that this so-called penalty is reversable, meaning for next update just make sure I got more quality link and then I start rising again.... or is the domain fucked for life and I have to move it to new server and change whois info?

Thanks

B

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mce

yes it is reversible just like penguin. Dilution is the answer.

hit it with a lot of economistjobs.tld links. Just the url. In-content, sidebar, etc. Next to it, make sure you use text that 'brands' the domain ie., Another quality (target keyword) post from url. Only on a MINORITY of your backlinks should you anchor the target keyword to your site. And of those, randomize the target url.

The key here, if it's not obvious already, is to make it look "NATURAL."

95% backlinks going to an emd site with the emd anchor to the main page is not natural.

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Badmaash

So you mean the link should look like this? <a href="http://economistjobs.tld">economistjobs.tld</a>

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MyDogHasFleas

Not using unique text. Relying too much on duplicate/spun text. Too much internal linking from your own network. Using spammy methods of getting backlinks.

I don't think SEO has changed all that much over the years. I see all this talk about how things change with each update. Quality unique content and good backlinks will always have good results. It only becomes difficult when people try to cheat the search engines in some way. I think the only thing that has changed over the years is the importance of updates. In the web 2.0 era updates are vital.

anexsia

I do put out quality blogs and generally do really well with every Google update, it was just this update that hit me a little bit although now it's back to leveling out. I take pride in the effort I put into my blogs

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Some of our EMD's did really well, others had a big drop. It was odd update as usual from google hitting sites it shouldn't, and giving some sites a boost that really didn't deserve it.

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