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Old 01-17-2013, 09:41 PM   #51
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50 Canadians not minding their own business.

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Ahhh fug.

was gonna do a fiddy Canadian hippies not minding their own bidness thing... ah well...

btw as long as Canucky Beavers are permitted in your land of milk, honey and blood, we should have an opinion on what scares us most about traipsing about your lovely realm.

But then not everything is dandy about the Homeland or Motherland or Fatherland or whatever it's called now, so please be patient with us.... we'll learn

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And because we're Canadian, we should't care that those 20 children were murdered in your country? That since then there have been 600 other gun-related deaths?
And NOBODY cares about all the kids around the world being murdered every day.

How about the kids in Syria for instance?
Or kids living on the Gaza Strip?
Or kids living in Africa being slaughtered in all the civil wars?

600 other gun related deaths since then...that's like a days work in a lot of countries around the world. Darfur anyone?

Maybe you should be demanding that those countries stop being so violent. The only problem we have is the occasional insane person...those other countries have perfectly sane cold-blooded murderers killing THOUSANDS of children and then raping the mothers just for fun.
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I'm sorry that you feel this way. All I am trying to do is to have a conversation on the matter. I sincerely apologize if you find my opinions, or the way that I express them, to be aggravating. I (like many others) tend to view GFY as an ultra-relaxed place where people can express their views using as much colorful metaphors as we like.

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Baddog and I have very different opinions when it comes to politics and last summer sometime I offended him with a joke. When I saw him at last week's Xbiz, I offered to shake his hand, and he accepted, and that was that.

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Yeah, I was just telling you my initial thought, I have no problem with you and wouldn't let those things get in the way of my business decisions. At the time I was still annoyed with everyone spreading bs about Romney and glorifying Obama, I honestly took a major hit in the wallet from Obama being re-elected "not taxes". So I was annoyed with seeing all the threads around that time. I don't care about people expressing their beliefs, I just don't like them trying to sway others with out right lies. Just trying to give you a heads up because some people would take it to the point of not doing business together.

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Whats wrong with a civilwar anyway. USA brings civilwar all over the world.
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You live in Canada.

Why do you not just STFU before the USA abandons your ignorant asses and closes the fucking border?

Go kill a moose or something, mkay?

Tap a Male tree.

For Chrissakes! You primitive people still adhere to kings and queens.

Your input does not count in the internal affiars of The United States of America.





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Civil War in the United States? Impeach Obama? This shit has to stop



The amount of disinformation, especially that which is causing widespread paranoia pushed by Fox, Glenn Beck, Rush, and this clown, has got to stop.

If you are afraid that Obama is coming for your guns, RELAX, it is not true. The NRA (who works for the Gun Manufacturers, not you) uses fear tactics and try to tap into people's hatred, to get people to buy more guns.



This commercial is intended to scare you. Does it? Get over it. First, it's a horrible commercial. Second, it's false. Obama's kids are protected because first they are the Children of the President of the United States, and second because they are automatically assigned protection by the Secret Service, just like any other president, vice president. Even Mitt Romney was protected by the Secret Service until he had his ass handed to him.

Gun owners: Calm down. Just calm the hell down.
Obama's kids are protected by secret service of course but they're also protected by private security at the private school he sends them to in Washington D.C, along with David Gregory's from NBC. Mayor Bloomberg is also protected by security guards.

This is why he's an elitist hypocrite, as the NRA have correctly pointed out because he sends his kids to a private school with 11 armed guards (in addition to secret service) while promoting gun free zones in public schools for everyone elses kids.

Is that clear to you now?

Also, what facts do you dispute from Alex Jones, what he says is easily checked with facts. For example Operation Fast and Furious was a gun walking operation carried out by the DoJ that resulted in the death of one American and at least 300 Mexicans that we know of and yet we're supposed to believe these people care about children or gun violence ????

He's also killing children with drones all over the world in Yemen and Pakistan with no authorization from Congress. so yes those are two things he should be impeached for straight away or do you believe Obama is god and should be above the law ???
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And because we're Canadian, we should't care that those 20 children were murdered in your country? That since then there have been 600 other gun-related deaths?

We'd like to think that our American friends would be just as concerned about us if the same problem was going on here. (We know you love us)

Here's a question for everyone:

At what time did President Obama EVER say that he was going to "take away your guns"? This phrase is common rhetoric among all far-right people from what I can see, but when was it ever actually said by Prez-O ?

And also, in 2008 there was a similar fear that Obama was going to take away your guns. Then in 2012 the same fear returned a few months before his re election. Gun sales jumped because people were afraid this would happen, but when was it ever said he would do it?

Just curious.
Government are the biggest killers in history, over 200 million people DEAD in 20th century by government.

Not private, law abiding citizens with arms.

Private citizens with arms are not dropping bombs and killing children in Pakistan like Obama and the criminal government in Washington D.C, they do not care about children.

Obama is on tape saying he won't take guns but then his former chief of staff and mayor of Chicago wants people on "no buy lists", the governor of New York wants gun confiscations and has just enacted the most draconian gun laws ever and there are bills in congress from Democrats demanding tighter restrictions. Obama won't come out and explicitly ask for people's guns but he will do whatever he can through executive orders to disarm people and promote gun free zones while sending his kids to private schools with armed security. So if you dont earn $450k like the president and can't afford to send your kids to a private school like he does and David Gregory your kids will not be protected adequately. These people want protection for themselves but not for anyone else.

He also said he wouldnt raise anyone's taxes but then did.

He also said under Obamacare people's insurance premiums would not go up when they're rising on average 15-20%

He's a pathological liar.

Go look it up, it's easy to find.
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Government are the biggest killers in history, over 200 million people DEAD in 20th century by government.

Not private, law abiding citizens with arms.

Private citizens with arms are not dropping bombs and killing children in Pakistan like Obama and the criminal government in Washington D.C, they do not care about children.

Obama is on tape saying he won't take guns but then his former chief of staff and mayor of Chicago wants people on "no buy lists", the governor of New York wants gun confiscations and has just enacted the most draconian gun laws ever and there are bills in congress from Democrats demanding tighter restrictions. Obama won't come out and explicitly ask for people's guns but he will do whatever he can through executive orders to disarm people and promote gun free zones while sending his kids to private schools with armed security. So if you dont earn $450k like the president and can't afford to send your kids to a private school like he does and David Gregory your kids will not be protected adequately. These people want protection for themselves but not for anyone else.

He also said he wouldnt raise anyone's taxes but then did.

He also said under Obamacare people's insurance premiums would not go up when they're rising on average 15-20%

He's a pathological liar.

Go look it up, it's easy to find.





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Obama's kids are protected by secret service of course but they're also protected by private security at the private school he sends them to in Washington D.C, along with David Gregory's from NBC. Mayor Bloomberg is also protected by security guards.

This is why he's an elitist hypocrite, as the NRA have correctly pointed out because he sends his kids to a private school with 11 armed guards (in addition to secret service) while promoting gun free zones in public schools for everyone elses kids.

Is that clear to you now?

Also, what facts do you dispute from Alex Jones, what he says is easily checked with facts. For example Operation Fast and Furious was a gun walking operation carried out by the DoJ that resulted in the death of one American and at least 300 Mexicans that we know of and yet we're supposed to believe these people care about children or gun violence ????

He's also killing children with drones all over the world in Yemen and Pakistan with no authorization from Congress. so yes those are two things he should be impeached for straight away or do you believe Obama is god and should be above the law ???
great we have groups of armed guards in every school .Who pays for it?
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Government are the biggest killers in history, over 200 million people DEAD in 20th century by government.

Not private, law abiding citizens with arms.

Private citizens with arms are not dropping bombs and killing children in Pakistan like Obama and the criminal government in Washington D.C, they do not care about children.

Obama is on tape saying he won't take guns but then his former chief of staff and mayor of Chicago wants people on "no buy lists", the governor of New York wants gun confiscations and has just enacted the most draconian gun laws ever and there are bills in congress from Democrats demanding tighter restrictions. Obama won't come out and explicitly ask for people's guns but he will do whatever he can through executive orders to disarm people and promote gun free zones while sending his kids to private schools with armed security. So if you dont earn $450k like the president and can't afford to send your kids to a private school like he does and David Gregory your kids will not be protected adequately. These people want protection for themselves but not for anyone else.

He also said he wouldnt raise anyone's taxes but then did.

He also said under Obamacare people's insurance premiums would not go up when they're rising on average 15-20%

He's a pathological liar.

Go look it up, it's easy to find.
really where is the tape ? He cant control what private insurance companies charge.

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really where is the tape ? He cant control what private insurance companies charge.
But he can force the people buy from that same private insurance company?
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But he can force the people buy from that same private insurance company?
He doesnt force anyone, dont buy it. There is a small fine. When it was the Dole plan I bet you didnt say a word. The gov also forces you to get auto insurance do you not drive in protest?
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And NOBODY cares about all the kids around the world being murdered every day.

How about the kids in Syria for instance?
Or kids living on the Gaza Strip?
Or kids living in Africa being slaughtered in all the civil wars?

600 other gun related deaths since then...that's like a days work in a lot of countries around the world. Darfur anyone?

Maybe you should be demanding that those countries stop being so violent. The only problem we have is the occasional insane person...those other countries have perfectly sane cold-blooded murderers killing THOUSANDS of children and then raping the mothers just for fun.
Bingo. And how many kids starve to death every day on a global scale? The number is appalling. But hey, 20 something white kids got shot so we need to do something and fast! Sadly, brown, black and yellow kids don't count.
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Bingo. And how many kids starve to death every day on a global scale? The number is appalling. But hey, 20 something white kids got shot so we need to do something and fast! Sadly, brown, black and yellow kids don't count.
So if its god forbid your 7 yrs old kid gets killed. It would be ok to say DWB why so sad ? Kids die all around the world every day. Your kid should be grateful he just got shot in the head, didnt starve to death like in africa. So get over this bullshit and lets grab a beer.

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really where is the tape ? He cant control what private insurance companies charge.
Sure he can and he out-and-out lied when he told the US public that insurance rates would not go up.

Also "Obamacare" does little but to mandate that US citizens BUY health care insurance or face fines collected through income tax returns.

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Sure he can and he out-and-out lied when he told the US public that insurance rates would not go up.

Also "Obamacare" does little but to mandate that US citizens BUY health care insurance or face fines collected through income tax returns.

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Sure he can and he out-and-out lied when he told the US public that insurance rates would not go up.

Also "Obamacare" does little but to mandate that US citizens BUY health care insurance or face fines collected through income tax returns.

My insurance has gone up every year since I worked for myself and that was in 2001. So was that obama's fault? Also, its not completed until 2014. So its too soon to tell.
Also if you had a disease where your ins company kicked you or had a kid who couldnt be covered on their own. You would be singing a different song. Because now you would have coverage.
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I was reading the other day about the absolutest position of the NRA; "You are either with us or against us."

What is not being mentioned is how the high capacity magazine ban will affect hand gun magazines ...

Back in the ''old days'' when when I was 10 years old and the NRA was a sportsmen's firearm training and safety organization, I got my first marksman certificate from a very different NRA back then.

The ban on high capacity magazines wouldn't really affect me -- I learned how to aim before I fire

I also am not planning on going to war any time soon ... That is just juvenile Rambo shit ...

This talk of impeachment of Obama is laughable.


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He doesnt force anyone, dont buy it. There is a small fine. When it was the Dole plan I bet you didnt say a word. The gov also forces you to get auto insurance do you not drive in protest?
You're comparing apples and oranges

I don't have to pay a tax if I don't buy auto insurance. (The Obama admin argued in court it is a tax not a fine)
I don't have to pay for auto insurance if I don't have a car or license.
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My insurance has gone up every year since I worked for myself and that was in 2001. So was that obama's fault? Also, its not completed until 2014. So its too soon to tell.
Also if you had a disease where your ins company kicked you or had a kid who couldnt be covered on their own. You would be singing a different song. Because now you would have coverage.
We used to have good insurance, but when all this olsamacare came into the picture. The company my wife works for decided to inform the employees that oslamacare will become mandatory and they were going to move forward with the HSA card through United Health Care. It is the same health care provider we had before and they are part of the big picture too?..criminal mother fuckers??plain and simple.

Now that we went to this fucking shit bag program, our out of pocket costs has gone through the roof. A good example......our co pay used to be 20 bucks, now it is 76.00 per visit. And in order for the insurance to cover us 100%, we have to have 5K on the HSA card. I you think this is a good deal you are wrong.

I have no idea of how poor families or families with several children are going to be able to afford it. Oh wait, this filthy corrupt Nazi government is going to fine persons who can not afford the insurance and on top of that, they will take their tax returns.....fucking cocksuckers!

The only people benefiting from this are the worthless fucking US Government, insurance companies, criminal politicians and pharmaceutical companies and so on.

Also, her prescriptions are going through the roof. The only way we can cut some costs is to travel on down to Mexico to purchase them at half the price we pay to the corrupt pill companies. Nice thing about this is that the greedy assholes in Washington DC won't get any tax from doing it this way and that just suits me fine.

I personally think it's time to vote all the scumbag corrupt politicians out of office and get some new younger people in there with fresh ideas and set the term limits so they won't be able to fuck the citizens because of their greed.

Next time you vote, be sure to toss the trash out on the street.

On another note, I am sure all these fucking politicians have the best of health insurance at our expense. Why is this new health care program so good for All American Citizens and not good enough for the filthy scum that is ass fucking this country and its citizens?

End of my rant........
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FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME......

Here is why Canada cares about American laws

The majority of American gun crime is caused by the "war on drugs" that America loves so fucking much. Recently there has been a rise in the murder rate in Canada because of gang members killing each other over lucrative US drug routes.

US gangs send guns north and Canada sends drugs south, in the last couple raids Police have found automatic weapons (from the US) in stash houses. If America would get its head out of its fucking ass and deal with some major issues it would directly benefit Canada.

Canada and Mexico have both tried to change thier drug laws only to have the USA persuade them into staying the status quo (which in America is ignorant). The fact of the matter is US law is causing a major war in Mexico and increasing violence in Canada, so yeah I guess we kind of fucking care.

And to anyone saying "US will shut down the border" do a little fucking reseach before you run your mouth. The fact of the matter is that the USA imports so much oil from Canada shutting down the border would cause a massive collapse of the US economy. And to the real intelligent people who will say that the US can invade and take the oil, well unfortunatley your master (China) has a major stake now in the oil fields so I'm positive the USA won't bite the hand that feeds them.
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So if its god forbid your 7 yrs old kid gets killed. It would be ok to say DWB why so sad ? Kids die all around the world every day. Your kid should be grateful he just got shot in the head, didnt starve to death like in africa. So get over this bullshit and lets grab a beer.
I am not asking the parents of those children why they are so sad. I am asking why all the hysteria over a gun that wasn't even used to kill them. I am asking why do 23 white kids make the news for weeks on end when there are many, many more children who die every day that no one talks or cares about.

A quick look on Google tells me 5 kids in the USA die every single day due to abuse or neglect. But I don't ever remember hearing anything about this. And I especially don't hear about it every day, or even once a month. Do you? That is more than all the Sandy Hook deaths each and every week out of the year. Yet hardly a peep. Why do you think that is? How can 23 kids shot to death be more important than 35 kids (every week) abused to death in the same country?

The answer is simple. There is a clear agenda here. All of these shootings are being used and propagandized by state and federal government as well as the corporate media and the public is eating it up like American Idol.
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FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME......

Here is why Canada cares about American laws

The majority of American gun crime is caused by the "war on drugs" that America loves so fucking much. Recently there has been a rise in the murder rate in Canada because of gang members killing each other over lucrative US drug routes.

US gangs send guns north and Canada sends drugs south, in the last couple raids Police have found automatic weapons (from the US) in stash houses. If America would get its head out of its fucking ass and deal with some major issues it would directly benefit Canada.

Canada and Mexico have both tried to change thier drug laws only to have the USA persuade them into staying the status quo (which in America is ignorant). The fact of the matter is US law is causing a major war in Mexico and increasing violence in Canada, so yeah I guess we kind of fucking care.

And to anyone saying "US will shut down the border" do a little fucking reseach before you run your mouth. The fact of the matter is that the USA imports so much oil from Canada shutting down the border would cause a massive collapse of the US economy. And to the real intelligent people who will say that the US can invade and take the oil, well unfortunatley your master (China) has a major stake now in the oil fields so I'm positive the USA won't bite the hand that feeds them.
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NEWS FLASH

The "Obamacare" legislation was written by the right-wing Heritage Foundation and first proposed in 1993, co-sponsored by 18 republicans including Bob Dole.

And somehow, Obama is the radical socialist communist marxist
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From an outsiders perspective - Obama looks like a god compared to your previous asshat
Fucking Big +1
My guess is that 90% of the europeans think like this.
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And somehow, Obama is the radical socialist communist marxist
I know isnt it funny. lol
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I know isnt it funny. lol
Good luck getting anyone locked in the right wing media bubble to accept or acknowledge this...
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Lots of arm chair politics going on, so lets see how little sense you guys make, first, the government is not going to have drone attacks on gun owners, because then everyone will live in the city and the crops will go un-managed.

Those that think the US citizens can't stand up to the US military, Do you know just how many hunters there are in the US?

Wisconsin has 600,000 hunters, 700,000 in Michigan, 250,000 in West Virginia, 750,000 in Penn state, those 4 states make the largest standing army in the world. A lot of these guys are ex military.

You idiots real think the soldiers would open fire on US citizens, get real

The real reason for idiots shooting in mass shootings, most all of them were on anti depressants, so lets put the doctors on trial! Not the guns, you would think people that work in porn would understand that that losing any rights is not a good thing!
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FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME......

Here is why Canada cares about American laws

The majority of American gun crime is caused by the "war on drugs" that America loves so fucking much. Recently there has been a rise in the murder rate in Canada because of gang members killing each other over lucrative US drug routes.

US gangs send guns north and Canada sends drugs south, in the last couple raids Police have found automatic weapons (from the US) in stash houses. If America would get its head out of its fucking ass and deal with some major issues it would directly benefit Canada.

Canada and Mexico have both tried to change thier drug laws only to have the USA persuade them into staying the status quo (which in America is ignorant). The fact of the matter is US law is causing a major war in Mexico and increasing violence in Canada, so yeah I guess we kind of fucking care.

And to anyone saying "US will shut down the border" do a little fucking reseach before you run your mouth. The fact of the matter is that the USA imports so much oil from Canada shutting down the border would cause a massive collapse of the US economy. And to the real intelligent people who will say that the US can invade and take the oil, well unfortunatley your master (China) has a major stake now in the oil fields so I'm positive the USA won't bite the hand that feeds them.
Fine, close your borders asshole, see how long you last without our money!
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And somehow, Obama is the radical socialist communist marxist
Some people will believe anything, this is from the Heritage Foundations website



Heritage policy experts never supported an unqualified mandate like that in the PPACA [ObamaCare]. Their prior support for a qualified mandate was limited to catastrophic coverage (true insurance that is precisely what the PPACA forbids), coupled with tax relief for all families and other reforms that are conspicuously absent from the PPACA. Since then, a growing body of research has provided a strong basis to conclude that any government insurance mandate is not only unnecessary, but is a bad policy option. Moreover, Heritage?s legal scholars have been consistent in explaining that the type of mandate in the PPACA is unconstitutional.


Obamacare puts the health care system on the wrong track and will expand the role of the federal government in every component of Americans? health care. To get the health care system on the right track that empowers patients, reduces cost, and ensures access, Obamacare must be repealed.
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Good luck getting anyone locked in the right wing media bubble to accept or acknowledge this...
Why would they?
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Also, its not completed until 2014. So its too soon to tell.
Considering , like Pelosi said, we'll know whats in it after we sign it, that no one read the fucking thing, let alone understand that 300 million people still won't be insured after it's in full swing according the CBO and that billions of dollars are going to be generated by those that are TAXED extra for not joining their Obamacare. All written by staffers and lobbyist, yeah I feel safer, NOT!

Too soon to tell my ass, fucking president can't balance a budget in 4 years but can sign an executive order about firearms that weren't even used in the shooting, ( In less than a month at a cost of 500 million) he's a fucking government wasteful asshole and people that are buying this shit have no fucking clue what's going to happen to our economy when the budget is over a trillion over what they are bringing in. Guess basic math escapes everyone
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great we have groups of armed guards in every school .Who pays for it?
Guess the politicians will have to stop taking money from the schools.
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Considering , like Pelosi said, we'll know whats in it after we sign it, that no one read the fucking thing, let alone understand that 300 million people still won't be insured after it's in full swing according the CBO and that billions of dollars are going to be generated by those that are TAXED extra for not joining their Obamacare. All written by staffers and lobbyist, yeah I feel safer, NOT!

Too soon to tell my ass, fucking president can't balance a budget in 4 years but can sign an executive order about firearms that weren't even used in the shooting, ( In less than a month at a cost of 500 million) he's a fucking government wasteful asshole and people that are buying this shit have no fucking clue what's going to happen to our economy when the budget is over a trillion over what they are bringing in. Guess basic math escapes everyone
He really isnt also congress is in charge of spending but you only listen to pundits, so a smart man like yourself just says weak ass talking points.
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Lots of arm chair politics going on, so lets see how little sense you guys make, first, the government is not going to have drone attacks on gun owners, because then everyone will live in the city and the crops will go un-managed.

Those that think the US citizens can't stand up to the US military, Do you know just how many hunters there are in the US?

Wisconsin has 600,000 hunters, 700,000 in Michigan, 250,000 in West Virginia, 750,000 in Penn state, those 4 states make the largest standing army in the world. A lot of these guys are ex military.

You idiots real think the soldiers would open fire on US citizens, get real

The real reason for idiots shooting in mass shootings, most all of them were on anti depressants, so lets put the doctors on trial! Not the guns, you would think people that work in porn would understand that that losing any rights is not a good thing!
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I am sure there would be some brainwashed gung ho troopers that would follow orders and turn on its own people for the sake of homeland security, god and loyalty to the country....but then again there would be many that would not. I would hope that any troops given that order would terminate with extreme prejudice, the individual giving the order....I know I would.

Lots of citizens with weapons in this country that have had their fill of this government and their antics and would not hesitate to turn given a worse case scenario, that being.....the government giving out orders to turn on the people of this country.....
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Heritage policy experts never supported an unqualified mandate like that in the PPACA [ObamaCare]. Their prior support for a qualified mandate was limited to catastrophic coverage (true insurance that is precisely what the PPACA forbids), coupled with tax relief for all families and other reforms that are conspicuously absent from the PPACA. Since then, a growing body of research has provided a strong basis to conclude that any government insurance mandate is not only unnecessary, but is a bad policy option. Moreover, Heritage’s legal scholars have been consistent in explaining that the type of mandate in the PPACA is unconstitutional.


Obamacare puts the health care system on the wrong track and will expand the role of the federal government in every component of Americans’ health care. To get the health care system on the right track that empowers patients, reduces cost, and ensures access, Obamacare must be repealed.
You're picking nits.

I'll split difference with you and say the Heritage Foundation plan had what you could call a catastrophic individual mandate. Nonetheless, an individual mandate.

Since then, the plan has been introduced at least 3 times that I know of

1993 - co-sponsored by 18 republicans including Bob Dole - individual mandate

2006 - Romneycare in Massachusetts (you know, that thing he had to pretend never happened) - individual mandate

2010 - Obamacare (most of which doesn't start until 2014) - individual mandate

Once again... and somehow, Obama is the radical socialist communist marxist
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lol Reagan wanted universal healthcare . but passing a law that overhauls the healthcare system , doesn't cover anymore people than are covered now and the shitheads that are pushing it admit they haven't read it are the people you are backing? seriously , who is drinking the cool aid? please don't be an idiot
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btw I'm an American not a GOP or a Demi. I'm out for what's right for the country. anyone that thinks the current administrations is out for the them is living in a fantasy world and hasn't realized that someone has to pay for all overspending this shit for brains is doing
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I'm not backing anyone (see sig). I'm pointing out the comic hilarity of right wingers shitting all over a right wing plan and calling it extreme socialism when it's their fucking plan in the first place.
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oh, and btw vendzilla... thanks for not addressing my core point that so-called obamacare is and always has been a right wing plan.
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