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Old 06-30-2013, 06:44 PM   #1
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Got fired today...

I've been working for a retail supermarket in management for over 5 years. I developed a web app that enabled associates to sync their schedule to their iPhone/Android. In less than a week over 200 associates were using this program. Instead of the company saying wow this is awesome can you show us how to do it? | They say they've already been working on something similar and I breached their "Technology Agreement". Resulting in my immediate termination. All while there are members of management that have been CAUGHT stealing, with no repercussion. What the fuck is wrong with this world?
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:50 PM   #2
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Sell the ap to thier biggest competition
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:54 PM   #3
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Sell the ap to thier biggest competition
This app tied in specifically to their software. Don't know what other companies are using, if they even offer a web interface for scheduling at all.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:58 PM   #4
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Make sure your code is documented. They may just save some $$$ and use your version instead.
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This app tied in specifically to their software. Don't know what other companies are using, if they even offer a web interface for scheduling at all.
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you released it without permission? why??
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:01 PM   #7
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did you make money when anyone was using it ? even advertisement or linked to other sites
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:03 PM   #8
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did you make money when anyone was using it ? even advertisement or linked to other sites
Not a penny, the company is employee owned. It was solely a project to benefit it's associates.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:07 PM   #9
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Very nicely done...
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:07 PM   #10
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:12 PM   #11
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Did they have a technology agreement specifically forbidding developing tools?

If not you can at least get unemployment since you most likely live in an at will state.
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:16 PM   #12
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I've been working for a retail supermarket in management for over 5 years. I developed a web app that enabled associates to sync their schedule to their iPhone/Android. In less than a week over 200 associates were using this program. Instead of the company saying wow this is awesome can you show us how to do it? | They say they've already been working on something similar and I breached their "Technology Agreement". Resulting in my immediate termination. All while there are members of management that have been CAUGHT stealing, with no repercussion. What the fuck is wrong with this world?
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:39 PM   #13
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Doesn't sound right. If you were in management, I don't understand why you wouldn't have brought up your app at a meeting, and why you were unaware an app was already under development.

That aside, I'm surprised that you were fired, given your time with the company, and the supposed nature of your offense (creating a productivity tool).

I'm guessing there may be more to the story, for example, you accessed company files/code which you were not authorized to have access to, developing/promoting app on company time, or something of that sort.

Otherwise, you may have a case for wrongful termination.

I would want to know specifically what rules were broken and the exact reason(s) for the termination, and then I would probably contact a lawyer if I felt my rights were violated.

Whatever the case, good luck...



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Old 06-30-2013, 07:47 PM   #14
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If it was my company I wouldn't want someone accessing any part of my operating system that wasn't part of that persons immediate job or area of responsibility. I'd fire you too.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:38 PM   #16
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If it was my company I wouldn't want someone accessing any part of my operating system that wasn't part of that persons immediate job or area of responsibility. I'd fire you too.
I automatically assumed it was a simple wrapper but if anything where he could collect logins or otherwise, yeah big problem.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:41 PM   #17
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Make an app that rounds off the interest on their accounts and have it deposit it in a separate account.

Oh wait, that was already tried in Superman 3.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:03 PM   #18
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By making this app, you have shown the most initiative ever by a supermarket employee.

I don't know...something smells.
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If it were me, I might start calling stores and telling them about my app then finding out which of them have software that will work with it. You could make a few extra bucks with just a few phone calls.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:22 PM   #20
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:55 PM   #21
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Make sure your code is documented. They may just save some $$$ and use your version instead.
Hehe, this is the way business works!
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You will find out that their software is just a branded version of the same software used by thousands of companies. I would shop the app to smaller companies. I would also sue for wrongful termination. They may choose to settle with you out of court and pay you a year of salary. A good friend of mine just did and she got six months salary and two years guaranteed employment in another department with full benefits her old job didn't supply. She was shocked. Said she did it more out of spite. Didn't think they'd actually cave in.
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If I was any good with aps I would nover work for others. Do your own.
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He would not be abel to sell the app as it will belong to the firm, as he was working for them when he made it.
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I think that depends on the contract and terms he had with the company. I have worked for companies in the past that forced you to sign something that said any inventions you may come up with or anything you might develop they have the right to claim since you work for them. Still, there were several guys that freelanced and did software development on their own.

Since he made it to work for this specific company they might claim it, but he could change it a little, alter the name of it and rebrand it as something else he would probably be in the clear. Especially if he can prove that he didn't develop it while on the company clock.
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umm maybe somebody got intimedated with your idea and he plan this to happen to you.. well thats life,
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Maybe he liked his job?
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Companies/businesses do not like people poking around in their infrastructure without permission to do so .... plain and simple.

Here in Canada, a graduate student in a large university was working on an app that would allow students to get their schedules and updates/revisions right on their smartphones, and while developing this app, he uncovered a MAJOR vulnerability in the school's network.

He immediately took his findings to the school, and instead of thanking him for this, he found himself expelled from the school, for a breech of the technology agreement that he signed when he started to attend the school six years prior.

Another similar story:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01...personal-data/
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Doesn't sound right. If you were in management, I don't understand why you wouldn't have brought up your app at a meeting, and why you were unaware an app was already under development.

That aside, I'm surprised that you were fired, given your time with the company, and the supposed nature of your offense (creating a productivity tool).

I'm guessing there may be more to the story, for example, you accessed company files/code which you were not authorized to have access to, developing/promoting app on company time, or something of that sort.

Otherwise, you may have a case for wrongful termination.

I would want to know specifically what rules were broken and the exact reason(s) for the termination, and then I would probably contact a lawyer if I felt my rights were violated.

Whatever the case, good luck...



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it sounds like you put internal documents (employee schedules) on the web without anyone's approval first, possibly breaking some privacy or some other laws in the process...

your employer has no way of knowing how secure your setup is, what other documents could be accessed, etc... so it's not exactly surprising that they are pissed...
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some of you assholes are telling him to commit a crime
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Maybe it was just an excuse to fire you? Kind of like managers of burger king "allows" employees to eat/steal sandwiches but when they want to fire someone they "catch" him stealing
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consult an attorney, most will give you a free consultation and see if there is a case. if not, see if you can get unemployment, and angle it towards the tech field. seem to have a liking for it and its apps. good luck. been there. happens to the best of us.
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consult an attorney, most will give you a free consultation and see if there is a case. if not, see if you can get unemployment, and angle it towards the tech field. seem to have a liking for it and its apps. good luck. been there. happens to the best of us.
if you do the app on their property its their app. that's why we have patent laws.
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