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Sly · 07-22-2013, 10:01 AM

I'm glad we live in a society where a few good people do more than "call the police and do nothing more." Unfortunately, it's still too few.

Robbie · 07-22-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm glad we live in a society where a few good people do more than "call the police and do nothing more." Unfortunately, it's still too few.

Yeah, if Trayvon Martin had been beating the fuck out of young woman on the street and GZ had called the police and stayed in his car...people would be screaming for his head.

The situation obviously escalated out of control...but to suggest that people do nothing when their homes are being broken into in a community is just dumb.

And what use is Neighborhood Watch if they just sit in a car and call police? They are supposed to be out of the car in view of any potential thieves as a deterrent.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think TM deserved to die. He was just a typical teen male.

But shit happens. That's why parents are so scared whenever their kids are out of their sight As a parent I remember all the dumb shit I did, and it scares the hell out of me that my kids will do the same stupid things that can get them killed.

I won't let my kids walk the streets after dark. Of course, 17 years old made Trayvon a man. (not legally...but he was a man). You just can't tell a 17 year old that they aren't "allowed" to walk the streets. At 17 he would be driving if he had a car. So that doesn't work.

I guess it's a miracle that any of us make it past our youth. I look back and wonder how I didn't get killed myself.

Rochard · 07-22-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

Oh boy. You really try to grab any straw, however thin it might be, because demonizing Zimmerman is the only way to justify the baseless witch hunt the media mounted.

So Zimmerman "is a liar" because he was confused about where he was exactly. Sure, we can't assume that he was nervous, or that it was an overcast night.

Oh no, "he lied about that, therefore he lied about EVERYTHING".

Yet when Martin's school record is brought up (getting suspended, being in trouble) or his twitter account (NOLIMITNIGGA), or the pictures found in his cellphone of him holding a gun, or pot smoking, then "it's just kid stuff".

How very convenient.

I am not trying to grasp at any straws.

Zimmerman was a wannabe police officer. He was just about to graduate with his little degree in criminal justice, had applied to be a police officer, and was training at a martial arts gym. He armed himself and joined the neighborhood watch - Self appointed sheriff, no requirements, no rules, no supervision. Zimmerman is nothing more than a douchebag who wanted to be a police officer so bad it made his panties wet.

Zimmerman handled this poorly from the start, and there are too many inconsistencies that don't add up:

Why didn't he identify himself as the neighborhood watch from the start?
Why did Zimmerman get out of his truck - to get a street name when there is only three streets?
Zimmerman claims he was punched 25 times and had his head beat on the pavement, yet the photos indicate he was only punched once or twice?
Did Martin jump out from behind the bushes and surprise Zimmerman, or did Zimmerman walk towards Martin - because within twenty-four hours Zimmerman claimed both.
Zimmerman was part of the Neighborhood Watch who's job is work with police - Why didn't Zimmerman listen when the police told him they didn't need him to follow the suspect.
How did Zimmerman pull out his firearm him from underneath them from under his jacket while Martin was on top of him hitting him?

Zimmerman handled this poorly from the very start. But that's exactly what you get when you have your neighborhood watch untrained and armed and tell them to protect us from the bad guys.

PornoMonster · 07-22-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yeah, if Trayvon Martin had been beating the fuck out of young woman on the street and GZ had called the police and stayed in his car...people would be screaming for his head.

The situation obviously escalated out of control...but to suggest that people do nothing when their homes are being broken into in a community is just dumb.

And what use is Neighborhood Watch if they just sit in a car and call police? They are supposed to be out of the car in view of any potential thieves as a deterrent.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think TM deserved to die. He was just a typical teen male.

But shit happens. That's why parents are so scared whenever their kids are out of their sight As a parent I remember all the dumb shit I did, and it scares the hell out of me that my kids will do the same stupid things that can get them killed.

I won't let my kids walk the streets after dark. Of course, 17 years old made Trayvon a man. (not legally...but he was a man). You just can't tell a 17 year old that they aren't "allowed" to walk the streets. At 17 he would be driving if he had a car. So that doesn't work.

I guess it's a miracle that any of us make it past our youth. I look back and wonder how I didn't get killed myself.

Yes, and 911 still says stay in your car.. They say that to Everyone so they can not be sued.

I called 911 on a pimp beating his girl, pulling her into the car, and driving a few feet each time with her dragging half out of the car. They said it would be about 8-11 minues before police arrived on my 3rd call as it was getting worse and worse, and I was to watch from a distance.. As soon as I went over there, the pussy pimp let her go and drove off.

baddog · 07-22-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Yes, and 911 still says stay in your car..

Except it is a matter of record that is not what was said.

tony286 · 07-22-2013, 11:21 AM

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06...martin-autopsy
He was only 5'11" not 6'2"

Robbie · 07-22-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

But that's exactly what you get when you have your neighborhood watch untrained and armed and tell them to protect us from the bad guys.

You've still not answered the question I posed to you:

You said in an earlier post that you worry and envision in your mind that your daughter could be Trayvon Martin.

I asked you to envision that your daughter was in George Zimmerman's place and had an athletic 17 year old male beating the shit out of her.
Would you want your daughter to just lie there and get beaten as you say GZ should have done...or would you want her to shoot him?

Robbie · 07-22-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Except it is a matter of record that is not what was said.

I think he's saying that 911 always tells people to not interfere so they don't get sued.

Robbie · 07-22-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

[*]Why did Zimmerman get out of his truck - to get a street name when there is only three streets? .

From the Neighborhood Watch Patrol Protocol:

1 Always patrol in pairs, may it be ON FOOT or in a vehicle.

I said earlier that he shouldn't have been alone or in his car. He should have had a partner and they should have been on foot to be most effective. Seeing neighborhood watch is a great deterrent. Riding in his truck with no visible identification on the vehicle or on his clothing that he was neighborhood watch was not very smart of GZ

And also:
8 Do not under any consideration confront suspicious individuals or vehicles. You have no idea who you may be dealing with. Observe from a distance and call it in to 911.

From what we know from court testimony...GZ was observing. He never confronted TM. He followed him and watched where he was going. And he had already called it in.

Here are the guidelines for Neighborhood Watch by the way:
http://www.ddowatch.com/2009/03/patr...linestips.html

baddog · 07-22-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I think he's saying that 911 always tells people to not interfere so they don't get sued.

Except that is not what happened either. "You don't have to do that" is not the same as "do not do that."

baddog · 07-22-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

From the Neighborhood Watch Patrol Protocol:

1 Always patrol in pairs, may it be ON FOOT or in a vehicle.

I said earlier that he shouldn't have been alone or in his car. He should have had a partner and they should have been on foot to be most effective. Seeing neighborhood watch is a great deterrent. Riding in his truck with no visible identification on the vehicle or on his clothing that he was neighborhood watch was not very smart of GZ

And also:
8 Do not under any consideration confront suspicious individuals or vehicles. You have no idea who you may be dealing with. Observe from a distance and call it in to 911.

From what we know from court testimony...GZ was observing. He never confronted TM. He followed him and watched where he was going. And he had already called it in.

Here are the guidelines for Neighborhood Watch by the way:
http://www.ddowatch.com/2009/03/patr...linestips.html

Was he actually "on patrol" or did he just happen to run across TM when he was out and about? I don't recall how they happened to cross paths.

Fetish Gimp · 07-22-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I am not trying to grasp at any straws.

Zimmerman was a wannabe police officer. He was just about to graduate with his little degree in criminal justice, had applied to be a police officer, and was training at a martial arts gym. He armed himself and joined the neighborhood watch - Self appointed sheriff, no requirements, no rules, no supervision. Zimmerman is nothing more than a douchebag who wanted to be a police officer so bad it made his panties wet.

*le sigh*

You know what that kind of evidence is called? "Circumstantial evidence".

It has very little weight in trials because anything can be taken out of context and bent to suit one's purpose.

But two can play the game

Martin loved to fight, as proven by his text messages:

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After he told her he was "tired and sore" from a fight, she asked him why he fought. "Bae" is shorthand for "babe."

MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me
FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
MARTIN: I lost da 1st round

but won da 2nd nd 3rd . . . .
FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool... he gone hav 2 see me again
FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/judge-tos...ons-mma-texts/

Martin was suspended from school after being caught vandalizing property, in possession of jewelery which did not belong to him and a bag with traces of pot
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...t-trayvon.html

So reading that I can assume Martin was a wanna-be gangsta, angry at the world and looking to lash out, so when he saw Zimmerman following him he found a smaller, weaker man to take out his rage on.

Just like you assume that Zimmerman was a blood-thirsty vigilante simply because he was interested in the law.

That's the problem with circumstantial evidence.

And I know, the judge did not allow that circumstantial evidence to be heard, but it's funny how that puts Martin in quite a different light.

TheSquealer · 07-22-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

*le sigh*

You know what that kind of evidence is called? "Circumstantial evidence".

It has very little weight in trials because anything can be taken out of context and bent to suit one's purpose.

But two can play the game

Martin loved to fight, as proven by his text messages:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/judge-tos...ons-mma-texts/

Martin was suspended from school after being caught vandalizing property, in possession of jewelery which did not belong to him and a bag with traces of pot
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...t-trayvon.html

So reading that I can assume Martin was a wanna-be gangsta, angry at the world and looking to lash out, so when he saw Zimmerman following him he found a smaller, weaker man to take out his rage on.

Just like you assume that Zimmerman was a blood-thirsty vigilante simply because he was interested in the law.

That's the problem with circumstantial evidence.

And I know, the judge did not allow that circumstantial evidence to be heard, but it's funny how that puts Martin in quite a different light.

If his family sues Zimmerman for wrongful death, all of this will be admissible as evidence in a civil trial.

If they don't sue, this will most likely be the reason why.

Robbie · 07-22-2013, 03:22 PM

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Obama is trying to get his DOJ to find some way to file charges of a racially motivated crime on GZ's part.

And there has been a lot of talk amongst liberals about the Martin family filing a civil suit.

But President HYPOCRISY strikes again: I just heard on the news...
In 2004 as a State Sen. in Illinois he voted to BROADEN the state of Illinois STAND YOUR GROUND LAW!!!

And the very thing he voted on was to make it impossible for anyone to bring any further action against a defendant who was tried in court under the Stand Your Ground law and found innocent.

Now keep in mind that Zimmerman NEVER used Stand Your Ground as a defense.

But to see all the blacks and white liberals on television literally screaming about "Stand Your Ground" law...it's funny that the guy they worship like a God: President Hypocrite Obama actually was FOR Stand Your Ground laws!

Typical Obama blowing whichever way the political winds would get him the most power.

baddog · 07-22-2013, 03:41 PM

I doubt the DOJ will take it; there is too much evidence that the trial court did not allow. There is nothing to be gained.

theking · 07-22-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I am not trying to grasp at any straws.

Zimmerman was a wannabe police officer. He was just about to graduate with his little degree in criminal justice, had applied to be a police officer, and was training at a martial arts gym. He armed himself and joined the neighborhood watch - Self appointed sheriff, no requirements, no rules, no supervision. Zimmerman is nothing more than a douchebag who wanted to be a police officer so bad it made his panties wet.

Zimmerman handled this poorly from the start, and there are too many inconsistencies that don't add up:

Why didn't he identify himself as the neighborhood watch from the start?
Why did Zimmerman get out of his truck - to get a street name when there is only three streets?
Zimmerman claims he was punched 25 times and had his head beat on the pavement, yet the photos indicate he was only punched once or twice?
Did Martin jump out from behind the bushes and surprise Zimmerman, or did Zimmerman walk towards Martin - because within twenty-four hours Zimmerman claimed both.
Zimmerman was part of the Neighborhood Watch who's job is work with police - Why didn't Zimmerman listen when the police told him they didn't need him to follow the suspect.
How did Zimmerman pull out his firearm him from underneath them from under his jacket while Martin was on top of him hitting him?

Zimmerman handled this poorly from the very start. But that's exactly what you get when you have your neighborhood watch untrained and armed and tell them to protect us from the bad guys.

Why do you like posting misinformation/lies?

theking · 07-22-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Was he actually "on patrol" or did he just happen to run across TM when he was out and about? I don't recall how they happened to cross paths.

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Martin. He was not on patrol per se.

baddog · 07-22-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Martin. He was not on patrol per se.

That's what I thought. Not sure why there is talk of teams.

Robbie · 07-22-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Martin. He was not on patrol per se.

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Originally Posted by baddog

That's what I thought. Not sure why there is talk of teams.

Yep, that would explain why he was alone and in his vehicle instead of with a partner patrolling the street.

07-22-2013, 10:01 AM	#201
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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Obama is trying to get his DOJ to find some way to file charges of a racially motivated crime on GZ's part. And there has been a lot of talk amongst liberals about the Martin family filing a civil suit. But President HYPOCRISY strikes again: I just heard on the news... In 2004 as a State Sen. in Illinois he voted to BROADEN the state of Illinois STAND YOUR GROUND LAW!!! And the very thing he voted on was to make it impossible for anyone to bring any further action against a defendant who was tried in court under the Stand Your Ground law and found innocent. Now keep in mind that Zimmerman NEVER used Stand Your Ground as a defense. But to see all the blacks and white liberals on television literally screaming about "Stand Your Ground" law...it's funny that the guy they worship like a God: President Hypocrite Obama actually was FOR Stand Your Ground laws! Typical Obama blowing whichever way the political winds would get him the most power. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06...martin-autopsy He was only 5'11" not 6'2"

07-22-2013, 03:41 PM	#215
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I doubt the DOJ will take it; there is too much evidence that the trial court did not allow. There is nothing to be gained.