First Time JuicyAds Ad's Purchase - GoFuckYourself.com

CAHEK · 08-28-2013, 11:25 AM

So i bought JuicyAds Ad's for 1 month on new Xhamster site 500$/month

200 clicks daily on 1 Million Impressions daily for a month

Money Made 0$

Captain Kawaii · 08-28-2013, 11:33 AM

Have em throw you an extra month and you'll make double.

Sorry for your loss btw.

I wouldn't buy ads on any of these networks selling on tubes. Why bother.

Now wait for the bro club to jump in on the defense. 3-2-1...

LeRoy · 08-28-2013, 11:39 AM

What site didnt convert for you?

CAHEK · 08-28-2013, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy

What site didnt convert for you?

Match Making/Dating

CAHEK · 08-28-2013, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Have em throw you an extra month and you'll make double.

Sorry for your loss btw.

I wouldn't buy ads on any of these networks selling on tubes. Why bother.

Now wait for the bro club to jump in on the defense. 3-2-1...

I wish for extra month. I told them to return my money for 2 weeks which i have left but they can't refund any money at all.

tokmansta · 08-28-2013, 11:49 AM

0,02 CTR... nice creatives...

Alice22 · 08-28-2013, 01:13 PM

Have you done some testing/optimizing/tracking your campaign ?
I mean, different banners/landing pages/creativity....

Lichen · 08-28-2013, 01:16 PM

leave the seller bad feedback on their account

nexcom28 · 08-28-2013, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK

So i bought JuicyAds Ad's for 1 month on new Xhamster site 500$/month

200 clicks daily on 1 Million Impressions daily for a month

Money Made 0$

If there ever was a reason not to buy ads - here it is.

Paul&John · 08-28-2013, 01:21 PM

Why are you saying that there is no money in porn? They made $500

ITraffic · 08-28-2013, 01:23 PM

What is the "new" Xhamster site?

signupdamnit · 08-28-2013, 01:26 PM

Doesn't the ad spot usually list the average ctr? If so how does it compare to what you saw?

ITraffic · 08-28-2013, 01:29 PM

juicyads.com/juicysites.php?id=73029 ?

CamTraffic · 08-28-2013, 01:36 PM

Indian traffic ...

HomerSimpson · 08-28-2013, 01:38 PM

OUCH...

btw: is this the site you bought ads on
http://new-xhamster.com ?????

signupdamnit · 08-28-2013, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic

juicyads.com/juicysites.php?id=73029 ?

Looks like it probably is

Quote:

top performing ad: 404 /clicks daily
average ad: 297 /clicks daily
estimated CPC: (cost per click) $0.044
estimated CPM: (cost per impessions) $0.02
estimated CTR: (click through ratio) 0.04%

If so it doesn't seem that far out of range from what JuicyAds shows.

CamTraffic · 08-28-2013, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Indian traffic ...

Which traffic comes from trafficHolder...

ajrocks · 08-28-2013, 01:50 PM

you really can' just buy that kind of traffic and expect to make money these days. If it was very productive they would keep it for themselves. It takes a lot of work and money to track and adjust your buys and advertised products. Adult isn't the only option as well, look to networks for different offers. It really does come down to working the numbers and optimizing.

Captain Kawaii · 08-28-2013, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Why are you saying that there is no money in porn? They made $500

valeriyCE · 08-28-2013, 02:00 PM

how do sites like http://new-xhamster.com/ make money?

Ace of Spades · 08-28-2013, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks

you really can' just buy that kind of traffic and expect to make money these days. If it was very productive they would keep it for themselves. It takes a lot of work and money to track and adjust your buys and advertised products. Adult isn't the only option as well, look to networks for different offers. It really does come down to working the numbers and optimizing.

Spot on and why buy 30days on a untested spot when you can buy 7day? Did you try different banners or LPs in the 30days?

CAHEK · 08-28-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice22

Have you done some testing/optimizing/tracking your campaign ?
I mean, different banners/landing pages/creativity....

Its pretty much same thing, 10%-15% more clicks or less

CAHEK · 08-28-2013, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace of Spades

Spot on and why buy 30days on a untested spot when you can buy 7day? Did you try different banners or LPs in the 30days?

Yes my mistake, I should got for 7 days first, but i though 1 month had an discount and i signup for long term, its like getting trial on adult site

CAHEK · 08-28-2013, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

OUCH...

btw: is this the site you bought ads on
http://new-xhamster.com ?????

Yep it is

I wouldn't recommend to buy from there

candyflip · 08-28-2013, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valeriyCE

how do sites like http://new-xhamster.com/ make money?

Buy selling ad space that doesn't perform.

Imortyl Pussycat · 08-28-2013, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK

So i bought JuicyAds Ad's for 1 month on new Xhamster site 500$/month

200 clicks daily on 1 Million Impressions daily for a month

Money Made 0$

Hi Guys,

I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience with us.

I will say this again and again in threads regarding our site or any ad network:

Please, please speak with an account manager before you spend a dime on advertising. We know where to point you and like the opportunity to walk you through the network do's and dont's before you start buying ads. Always find out which geos your dating offer converts (from your affiliate manager) in best and only buy direct on sites containing at least 50% of your target traffic. Here is the geo breakdown shown on the buy ads page for the site you bought:

United States (US) United States 15.93%
Germany (DE) Germany 7.58%
Turkey (TR) Turkey 7.50%
Thailand (TH) Thailand 5.62%
United Kingdom (GB) United Kingdom 5.20%
India (IN) India 5.02%

Other Countries 53.15%

Again, if anyone is thinking about doing a direct buy, show us which site you had in mind so we can check it out for you and give it a thumbs up or down. We can also choose sites for you to check out that we feel would work well with your offer and your budget.

CaptainHowdy · 08-28-2013, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Why are you saying that there is no money in porn? They made $500

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tigermtb · 08-29-2013, 01:24 PM

My suggestion would have been to contact before the 30 days was up... I don't recall seeing a refund request for this, but I could be wrong.

Its our policy not to make "performance based" refunds, since these are pre-paid direct buys, but at the very least I could have looked at the situation and reviewed the website, traffic, your creatives and offer ... before you just hit up GFY to slam us instead.

I'd like your account username so I can review this, [email protected] .. I review all complaints regarding traffic quality.

CAHEK · 08-29-2013, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

My suggestion would have been to contact before the 30 days was up... I don't recall seeing a refund request for this, but I could be wrong.

Its our policy not to make "performance based" refunds, since these are pre-paid direct buys, but at the very least I could have looked at the situation and reviewed the website, traffic, your creatives and offer ... before you just hit up GFY to slam us instead.

I'd like your account username so I can review this, [email protected] .. I review all complaints regarding traffic quality.

I did contact you after 9 days when i started on 1 day before 30 days was up, My Email Was

" Hello, im not really making any money since day 1 and it was really bad idea buy advertising for a month. Can i get some of my money back ?' "

i just got this reply from you

" These are prepaid advertising spaces and it is your responsibility to do what you want with the space. I don’t see any valid reason for a refund at this time. "

Im not trying to slam you guys, I just want webmasters to know that they wont make mistake's like i did.

tigermtb · 08-29-2013, 01:59 PM

Found it. You're right, you did contact in advance so I apologize for the assumption you did not.

We provide full information to our clients to make informed decisions about their Direct Buy purchases. It appears that for your purposes, this was a bad spot to choose, given the country breakdown and Google PR of 0 = mostly purchased traffic from elsewhere?

You'll definitely want to leave feedback, but in terms of Refund .. the traffic appears to be delivered fine so unless there is a fraud claim here it appears to be a closed issue.

CyberHustler · 08-29-2013, 03:19 PM

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nexcom28 · 08-29-2013, 03:29 PM

Back in the day of BlackLabel Ads and Adbrite you could spend $50 a week and know it would get a signup if you chose your site right.
Then BlackLabelAds and Adbrite closed down and JuicyAds took their place. Now you need to spend 1,000s to get a sale.

I wouldn't recommend using Juicy at all.

Kenny B! · 08-29-2013, 06:00 PM

Sue them for $50k, seems to be the thing to do ;-)

tokmansta · 08-29-2013, 06:36 PM

Tbh, did you think you would just double your money like that? Without any optimisation, testing, filtering?

CamTraffic · 08-29-2013, 06:42 PM

The days when you could buy and sent traffic to a paysite are almost over.
I have to admit I was doing very well with Juicy at the beginning.
Now it takes forever to sort thru the crappy publishers :'(

bluebook18 · 08-29-2013, 06:42 PM

I can't watch my $500 burn without any return, that's fucked up

tigermtb · 08-29-2013, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Back in the day of BlackLabel Ads and Adbrite you could spend $50 a week and know it would get a signup if you chose your site right.
Then BlackLabelAds and Adbrite closed down and JuicyAds took their place. Now you need to spend 1,000s to get a sale.

I wouldn't recommend using Juicy at all.

That's not true at all, we have thousands of campaigns running for clients that are profitable, and have been running for a very long time. Direct Buys are a different breed, and it depends a LOT on what you pick and how you manage the spot.

AllAboutCams · 08-29-2013, 06:53 PM

I like jucy but have no idea where to start ive done a few small buys but i never seem to get the results i want.

Anyone got any tips

billbailey · 08-29-2013, 07:01 PM

Do juicy offer geo targeted ppc network wide ads?

ErectMedia · 08-29-2013, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

I like jucy but have no idea where to start ive done a few small buys but i never seem to get the results i want.

Anyone got any tips

1)Pick sites that match your niche
2)Look for the green bars under geo, pick sites with primarily high quality countries US, CA, UK, AU etc... as thousands of hits from turkey ain't gonna sell shit
3)Use matching thumbs that relate to your content and rotate a few until you find the ones with the highest CTR to use

If your spending bigger dough $250+ could always do a run of the network and geo target it to only the high quality countries

Wizzo · 08-29-2013, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billbailey

Do juicy offer geo targeted ppc network wide ads?

Yes we do, just be sure to use dynamic linking to remove unproductive sites.

lagcam · 08-29-2013, 07:44 PM

If you buy any traffic or advertising expecting your money back immediately you will be disappointed. You can get lucky, but it often takes time.

A few years ago, I spent about $95 on cheaper traffic through Juicy direct buys and didn't get a single cent of return. I then spent the remaining $5 of my deposit on 7 days advertising from a site with very cheap clicks, and forgot about it until my tracking system picked up a sale from it around a week after the advertising expired.

That single paying member made another purchase a few weeks later and since then has made over 180 purchases totalling well over $6k.

I advertised again with the same site a short while after, and went back to zero return again.

Point of this post (finally) is that buying traffic is always going to be hit and miss, and a lot depends on your advert catching the eye of the right person at the right time, and your landing page being able to convert him.

lezinterracial · 08-29-2013, 08:27 PM

I agree with the others on geo targeting only high quality countries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK

Match Making/Dating

Was thinking you might want to look into Google ads or facebook ads. I see dating ads everywhere now. Youtube, facebook, yahoo, zerohedge (I think is was a google ad). Alot of competition out there.

96ukssob · 08-29-2013, 10:05 PM

this is probably the reason why you got $0 return: http://m.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19772213&postcount=3

people like this should be banned from earning ad revenue

fuzebox · 08-30-2013, 03:16 AM

Pro media buyer status

Oracle Porn · 08-30-2013, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK

So i bought JuicyAds Ad's for 1 month on new Xhamster site 500$/month

200 clicks daily on 1 Million Impressions daily for a month

Money Made 0$

Q: Is there any money in porn?
A: NO! GO AWAY!

http://nomoneyinporn.com/ ?

Verbal · 08-30-2013, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

Why are you saying that there is no money in porn? They made $500

That's seriously funny!

Klen · 08-30-2013, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

this is probably the reason why you got $0 return: http://m.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19772213&postcount=3

people like this should be banned from earning ad revenue

Not necessary,when i was testing dating sponsors some of them generated 0 and some generated nice money so having a good creative it is very important.

96ukssob · 08-30-2013, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Not necessary,when i was testing dating sponsors some of them generated 0 and some generated nice money so having a good creative it is very important.

9 times out of 10, it's user error that leads to poor performance

however, the "click the ads on my site" shit is garbage. coming from someone who sells and manages ad campaigns, this gets under my skin

Mutt · 08-30-2013, 07:10 AM

LOLOLOLOL this industry never fails to entertain - society's rejects exploiting each other from top to bottom.

that website is a piece of shit, infringing on X-Hamster's trademark

08-28-2013, 11:25 AM	#1
CAHEK C.C.C.P. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Novorossiya Posts: 6,766	First Time JuicyAds Ad's Purchase So i bought JuicyAds Ad's for 1 month on new Xhamster site 500$/month 200 clicks daily on 1 Million Impressions daily for a month Money Made 0$ __________________ Pharma from True-Meds. High converting shop in Europe and USA, fast payouts via BTC !!!

08-28-2013, 11:39 AM	#3
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08-28-2013, 01:13 PM	#7
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08-28-2013, 01:21 PM	#10
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08-28-2013, 01:26 PM	#12
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08-28-2013, 11:33 AM	#2
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	Have em throw you an extra month and you'll make double. Sorry for your loss btw. I wouldn't buy ads on any of these networks selling on tubes. Why bother. Now wait for the bro club to jump in on the defense. 3-2-1...

08-28-2013, 11:49 AM	#6
tokmansta Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 566	0,02 CTR... nice creatives...

08-28-2013, 01:16 PM	#8
Lichen Tube Master Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,640	leave the seller bad feedback on their account

08-28-2013, 01:23 PM	#11
ITraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,725	What is the "new" Xhamster site?

08-28-2013, 01:29 PM	#13
ITraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,725	juicyads.com/juicysites.php?id=73029 ?

08-28-2013, 01:36 PM	#14
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08-28-2013, 01:38 PM	#15
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08-28-2013, 01:50 PM	#18
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08-28-2013, 02:00 PM	#20
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08-29-2013, 01:24 PM	#28
tigermtb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,062	My suggestion would have been to contact before the 30 days was up... I don't recall seeing a refund request for this, but I could be wrong. Its our policy not to make "performance based" refunds, since these are pre-paid direct buys, but at the very least I could have looked at the situation and reviewed the website, traffic, your creatives and offer ... before you just hit up GFY to slam us instead. I'd like your account username so I can review this, [email protected] .. I review all complaints regarding traffic quality. __________________ Jay \| JuicyAds Founder Businessman of the Year [YNOT Awards 2013] The most awarded adult advertising network with 25+ XBIZ, GFY, and YNOT Awards.

08-29-2013, 01:59 PM	#30
tigermtb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,062	Found it. You're right, you did contact in advance so I apologize for the assumption you did not. We provide full information to our clients to make informed decisions about their Direct Buy purchases. It appears that for your purposes, this was a bad spot to choose, given the country breakdown and Google PR of 0 = mostly purchased traffic from elsewhere? You'll definitely want to leave feedback, but in terms of Refund .. the traffic appears to be delivered fine so unless there is a fraud claim here it appears to be a closed issue. __________________ Jay \| JuicyAds Founder Businessman of the Year [YNOT Awards 2013] The most awarded adult advertising network with 25+ XBIZ, GFY, and YNOT Awards.

08-29-2013, 03:19 PM	#31
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08-29-2013, 03:29 PM	#32
nexcom28 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,716	Back in the day of BlackLabel Ads and Adbrite you could spend $50 a week and know it would get a signup if you chose your site right. Then BlackLabelAds and Adbrite closed down and JuicyAds took their place. Now you need to spend 1,000s to get a sale. I wouldn't recommend using Juicy at all.

08-29-2013, 06:00 PM	#33
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08-29-2013, 06:36 PM	#34
tokmansta Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 566	Tbh, did you think you would just double your money like that? Without any optimisation, testing, filtering?

08-29-2013, 06:42 PM	#35
CamTraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami Posts: 6,535	The days when you could buy and sent traffic to a paysite are almost over. I have to admit I was doing very well with Juicy at the beginning. Now it takes forever to sort thru the crappy publishers :'( __________________ I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up. Email me HERE!

08-29-2013, 06:42 PM	#36
bluebook18 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Soon On Mars Posts: 4,082	I can't watch my $500 burn without any return, that's fucked up

08-29-2013, 06:53 PM	#38
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08-29-2013, 07:01 PM	#39
billbailey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 225	Do juicy offer geo targeted ppc network wide ads?

08-29-2013, 07:44 PM	#42
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	If you buy any traffic or advertising expecting your money back immediately you will be disappointed. You can get lucky, but it often takes time. A few years ago, I spent about $95 on cheaper traffic through Juicy direct buys and didn't get a single cent of return. I then spent the remaining $5 of my deposit on 7 days advertising from a site with very cheap clicks, and forgot about it until my tracking system picked up a sale from it around a week after the advertising expired. That single paying member made another purchase a few weeks later and since then has made over 180 purchases totalling well over $6k. I advertised again with the same site a short while after, and went back to zero return again. Point of this post (finally) is that buying traffic is always going to be hit and miss, and a lot depends on your advert catching the eye of the right person at the right time, and your landing page being able to convert him. __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

08-29-2013, 10:05 PM	#44
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	this is probably the reason why you got $0 return: http://m.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19772213&postcount=3 people like this should be banned from earning ad revenue __________________ Email: Clicky on Me Last edited by 96ukssob; 08-29-2013 at 10:06 PM..

08-30-2013, 03:16 AM	#45
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08-30-2013, 07:10 AM	#50
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	LOLOLOLOL this industry never fails to entertain - society's rejects exploiting each other from top to bottom. that website is a piece of shit, infringing on X-Hamster's trademark __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!