Do Some Women Secretly Like Rape? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Jel · 01-22-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

Yes, It's rape. The woman likes it (secretly) and next day tells police she has been raped.

No, it isn't rape. It's a false accusation.

If the woman likes it, it isn't rape, because at the time she is consenting.

So yeah, out of the population of the earth, I'd say there are some women who would actually get off on, and enjoy, being taken by a complete stranger who believes he is taking her against her consent, but... by her wanting that to happen, it isn't rape, regardless of what the 'rapist' thinks

nexcom28 · 01-22-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

That is NOT what you said or implicated -

How you interpret things is open to debate.

L-Pink · 01-22-2014, 04:22 PM

I'm sure any rape fantasy includes Brad Pitt, Clay Matthews, etc, not some sweaty loser slob with a knife.

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

No, it isn't rape. It's a false accusation.

If the woman likes it, it isn't rape, because at the time she is consenting.

So yeah, out of the population of the earth, I'd say there are some women who would actually get off on, and enjoy, being taken by a complete stranger who believes he is taking her against her consent, but... by her wanting that to happen, it isn't rape, regardless of what the 'rapist' thinks

What if she does not know that she would like that (so no consent at the moment when he starts raping her) but only afterwards she realizes that she liked that?

Jel · 01-22-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

What if she does not know that she would like that (so no consent at the moment when he starts raping her) but only afterwards she realizes that she liked that?

then that'd be different question to the OP. Though this one I'd find hard to believe could happen, and is a bit like saying and what if then, she assumed the power of flight, circled the globe, and squirted upon landing. You can add all the what if's you like, but the OP was the OP, and my posts in this thread are right

EddyTheDog · 01-22-2014, 04:45 PM

You are all fucking mad...

Having a discussion about rape on a forum like GFY should be treated the same as a discussion about CP here.....

Not tolerated in any way...

Penny24Seven · 01-22-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

A girl I know told me she had that fantasy and asked if I wanted to try it. At her house safely, of course.. But I was like

I know right and then you are like "what are these hidden cameras doing"

Penny24Seven · 01-22-2014, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You are all fucking mad...

Having a discussion about rape on a forum like GFY should be treated the same as a discussion about CP here.....

Not tolerated in any way...

Hey buddy, Look you are 100% right but we are not talking about normal people. Just like people that like to be cut while having sex and bleed all over the place.
There are some fucked up people out there.
No normal person would ever want to be raped. I hope everyone agrees about that

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

then that'd be different question to the OP. Though this one I'd find hard to believe could happen, and is a bit like saying and what if then, she assumed the power of flight, circled the globe, and squirted upon landing. You can add all the what if's you like, but the OP was the OP, and my posts in this thread are right

Hmm that sounds exactly like the question in OP to me...

I mean OP is talking about enjoying being taken without consent. And you were talking about enjoying being taken with consent (as you specified).

Anyway why is it hard to believe?
Many women have rape fantasies and like to role play it. But not all of them know if they would like that if that actually happened. And if that happened it does not mean they are giving consent. Despite if they would enjoy it or not.

EddyTheDog · 01-22-2014, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

.....No normal person would ever want to be raped...

You can not want to be raped -

...

You can fantasize about being taken roughly by the local - FILL IN THE BLANK - That is and never will be rape.....

Do I really need to explain that here?..

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Hmm that sounds exactly like the question in OP to me...

I mean OP is talking about enjoying being taken without consent. And you were talking about enjoying being taken with consent (as you specified).

Anyway why is it hard to believe?
Many women have rape fantasies and like to role play it. But not all of them know if they would like that if that actually happened. And if that happened it does not mean they are giving consent. Despite if they would enjoy it or not.

lol, now you are obviously arguing for the sake of it.

op: enjoy being taken without consent

if you are enjoying it, you WANT it to be happening, so you are CONSENTING so it cannot be rape because rape is NON-CONSENSUAL

if you are NOT enjoying it, it's beyond my rationale to imagine that the next day you realise you did enjoy it after all.

you seem to be confusing my argument that if a woman is enjoying it that it cannot therefore be rape, with someone who doesn't believe women have rape fantasies.

you also seem keen to draw out the 'argument' that doesn't exist with me, so see you later in another thread, another time...

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You can not want to be raped -

...

lol, indeed - how is the level of comprehension in this thread so low? It's so cut and dried that it's the very definition of a black and white question/answer, yet people aren't understanding it, wtf?

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

if you are enjoying it, you WANT it to be happening, so you are CONSENTING so it cannot be rape because rape is NON-CONSENSUAL

But consent is ALWAYS being given BEFORE you start engaging.
And my point is that those women who have rape fantasies and like to role play thinks that they would not like it to happen in reality. So how can they give consent if they think they would not like that.
And only in the middle of the act they realize that they like it (as in their role plays).

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

But consent is ALWAYS bing given BEFORE you start engaging.
And my point is that those women who have rape fantasies and like to role play thinks that they would not like it to happen in reality. So how can they give consent if they think they would not like that.
And only in the middle of the act they realize that they like it (as in their role plays).

you are drunk, right? Because I know you aren't dumb...

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

But consent is ALWAYS being given BEFORE you start engaging.
And my point is that those women who have rape fantasies and like to role play thinks that they would not like it to happen in reality. So how can they give consent if they think they would not like that.
And only in the middle of the act they realize that they like it (as in their role plays).

we aren't talking about women who think they wouldn't like it in reality as opposed to role-play, we are talking about women who want to actually be 'raped' by a stranger 'forcibly' - by the very act of them wanting it, they are consenting, so how the hell can it be classed as rape?

fuck, this is actually funny now

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:10 PM

as for the 'and only in the middle do they realise blahblah' - you cannot possibly believe that? terrified, dry, helpless, but bam, all of a sudden she gets into it, starts gushing, and is up for it? lmfao, please......

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

we aren't talking about women who think they wouldn't like it in reality as opposed to role-play, we are talking about women who want to actually be 'raped' by a stranger 'forcibly' - by the very act of them wanting it, they are consenting, so how the hell can it be classed as rape?

fuck, this is actually funny now

But don't you get it that according to this logic OP question would not make any sense?
Like "do you think people secretly like being raped without being raped?"
Would OP ask such a question?

No, meaning that was not what Op was asking.

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

as for the 'and only in the middle do they realise blahblah' - you cannot possibly believe that? terrified, dry, helpless, but bam, all of a sudden she gets into it, starts gushing, and is up for it? lmfao, please......

Not like that. Meaning that in general she thinks that she would not want that to happen. Meaning no consent. She did not even see the rapist before he attacked her so how on earth she could have given him consent?

EddyTheDog · 01-22-2014, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

"do you think people secretly like being raped without being raped?"

That doesn't make any sense...

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

That doesn't make any sense...

Exactly.

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

But don't you get it that according to this logic OP question would not make any sense?
Like "do you think people secretly like being raped without being raped?"

that's exactly what I'm saying - there is no logic/sense to the OP's question. you cannot 'want' to get raped, or 'like' actually being raped.

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Not like that. Meaning that in general she thinks that she would not want that to happen. Meaning no consent. She did not even see the rapist before he attacked her so how on earth she could have given him consent?

you have to be drunk.

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

you have to be drunk.

Well you are notorious and self admitted drunk here so I should think the same. Because my point in that quote is pretty valid.
How could she give consent if:
a) she does not want to be raped.
b) she did not even see rapist before it is too late to give/deny consent. Because consent is being given BEFORE starting to engage in sex. It is impossible to give consent to unknown person who attacks you.

I know how you would argue with a) , but how can you argue with b)?

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Well you are notorious and self admitted drunk here so I should think the same. Because my point in that quote is pretty valid.
How could she give consent if:
a) she does not want to be raped.
b) she did not even see rapist before it is too late to give/deny consent. Because consent is being given BEFORE starting to engage in sex.

well, I haven't drank for a few years now

and your point isn't valid at all, to anyone with a grasp of english, and what rape actually means.

a) you've lost me now, in what context?

b) most women don't say 'yes' prior to sex, but by the omission of 'no', and her actions, there is consent, or there isn't; most importantly within this conversation is what she is thinking - if she is enjoying it, then it isn't rape, by the very definition of what rape is.

you can't, by the definition of what rape actually is, want/like actual rape.

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 05:52 PM

And I still can not believe how you do not grasp simple concept of people not knowing if they would enjoy it.

Lets say I am into femdom niche and I like women to kick my balls and then force me to have sex with her. So I prepare such roleplays and enjoy them

But I do not want it to happen in real life without me knowing it. And on the other hand I am not sure if I would not like that. I may like that. I do not know. But since I do not want it to happen in real life it means that I do not give consent.
And at the same time after it starts to happen I may enjoy it. It would not mean that I gave consent.
How is that difficult to understand?

Jel · 01-22-2014, 05:56 PM

ok with ya now. you'd know after kick 1 whether you enjoyed it or not, and would either consent to it continuing, or you would not.

you wouldn't endure a bollock kicking for x minutes/times, not like it, then the next day decide you did like it after all.

It's still not the same as what the op asked though.

mineistaken · 01-22-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

you can't, by the definition of what rape actually is, want/like actual rape.

Thats the whole point why you do not get OP's question.

Lets take 2 women:

Women A, she goes home, attacker pulls knife and forces her to have sex.

Women B, she goes home, attacker pulls knife and forces her to have sex.

Women A did not like that.
Women B always had rape fantasies and liked that.

Both instances were rapes. Exactly the same.
The fact that B women liked it does not change anything.
She did not give consent!

Thats the core thing you fail to understand.

If you say she gave consent to the attacker, explain how? And no, liking it does not mean she gave consent!
That's why you misinterpret Op.

Jel · 01-22-2014, 06:01 PM

lol. tell you what, you're right.

Magnetron · 01-22-2014, 06:41 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if a violent rapist rapes a woman who during said rape demonstrates in anyway that she is enjoying it, said rapist would probably take offence at losing control over the situation and begin bashing in her face. So, this futile exercise in theoretics is all for naught ..... unless you want to rewrite the equation by saying she secretly harbors fantasies of being severely beaten and hospitalized.

Tdash · 01-22-2014, 07:14 PM

I think the OP meant "man-handled". Most women like to completely dominated(consensually) every now and then, but getting "raped", no way.

rogueteens · 01-22-2014, 08:04 PM

what an astonishing thread.

JockoHomo · 01-22-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tdash

I think the OP meant "man-handled". Most women like to completely dominated(consensually) every now and then, but getting "raped", no way.

Indeed...who doesn't!

Jesse1984 · 01-22-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

Touchy?

Look, I am not talking about every woman that gets raped likes it.

I am just asking the question, do some women that get raped like it?

This works both ways of course.

If a gay guy has a healthy sex life and he gets jail time. Everyone threatens him that he shouldn't drop the soap.. but he does.. Does said gay guy actually enjoy being butch bills bitch?

Are you fucking kidding me? How do people like you even exist?

I'm sure your next questions to start threads are:

Is it really racism if white people really are better than black people?
Was it really genocide and mass murder if the jews just really had it coming from the Nazi's?

So your argument is, "I wouldn't really like to be raped by a man, but I can only wrap my fuck wit head around the fact that there are rape fantasies so some women must like rape?"

Seek help. Seek professional fucking help.

Jesse1984 · 01-22-2014, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You are all fucking mad...

Having a discussion about rape on a forum like GFY should be treated the same as a discussion about CP here.....

Not tolerated in any way...

This guy is heading dangerously down that path, he's the kind of dude that justifies date rape and then moves on to statutory rape because she looked old enough.

I fully agree Eddy, this shit has no place here and if any mainstream anti-porn crusaders found this dude and the other idiots responses in this thread, they'd have a fucking field day with it.

Wholly disgusted.

Creatine · 01-22-2014, 09:16 PM

I sure hope Becky enjoyed it.

Rochard · 01-22-2014, 09:21 PM

It's a control thing. Some women like it when a man is in complete control.

My wife is like that, which works for me. She doesn't like to be "raped" but she likes being told what to do....

johnnyloadproductions · 01-22-2014, 09:29 PM

It's a fine line sometimes by being pushy and successful or coming to terms with rape charges against a person.

Guys that don't know boundaries or have utter disregard, end up in prison. The rest beget the next generation of our race.

adultchatpay · 01-22-2014, 09:44 PM

That's why huge percentage of Rape is not reported to authorities.

topsiteking · 01-22-2014, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by loreen

A real rape is in no way or form the same as the fetish / role-play / fantasy of a rape.

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

I know plenty of girls who have a rape fantasy. Does that mean they actually want a real rape to happen... No. Does that mean they would be open to setting up a situation where they can act out that fantasy... yes.

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Originally Posted by Belinda

I can not think of a single instance that I would enjoy being rapped. Not one. I think it would traumatizing to say the least.

BUT as a fantasy, I think that most woman would enjoy being "taken" by someone they trust. An unexpected encounter or grabbed as they walked by and pushed against a wall. But that is all fantasy and we know we are safe. I would never want anything more from a complete stranger. It would have to be a role play situation and talked about before hand then it could happen as a surprise and even though you don't know when it will happen, as soon as it does, you know WHO it is and that can be a turn on. But that is just me. I'd never want something like rape to actually happen, ever.

John-ACWM · 01-23-2014, 02:13 AM

There is room for everyone, so yes.

BenGentlemen · 01-23-2014, 02:33 AM

rape no good

Harmon · 01-23-2014, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JesseFame

This guy is heading dangerously down that path, he's the kind of dude that justifies date rape and then moves on to statutory rape because she looked old enough.

I fully agree Eddy, this shit has no place here and if any mainstream anti-porn crusaders found this dude and the other idiots responses in this thread, they'd have a fucking field day with it.

Wholly disgusted.

Just go through his post history. He's a fucking loser cunt. Just saying.

Magnetron · 01-23-2014, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Belinda

I can not think of a single instance that I would enjoy being rapped.

Yo yo yos
Listen up all ya Bitches and Hoes
First I'm gonna tap you, next I'm gonna rap you
Then I pulls out my 9 inch glock
Right in the ass, I bottle cap you

Word

seeandsee · 01-23-2014, 06:45 AM

Women don't secretly like rape...

SIK · 01-23-2014, 07:04 AM

Well, I didn't bother reading much of this thread but...

..a very high % of women has an orgasm while getting raped. It is something about fear and panic being so intense that it actually translates to orgasms.

Fun fact, ain't it?

12clicks · 01-23-2014, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK

Well, I didn't bother reading much of this thread but...

..a very high % of women has an orgasm while getting raped. It is something about fear and panic being so intense that it actually translates to orgasms.

Fun fact, ain't it?

I hear the % of men orgasming during rape is higher

BaliPimp · 01-23-2014, 01:17 PM

Rape is very bad. I am against it

Creatine · 01-23-2014, 01:21 PM

Fun fact. Women that got raped have had intercourse.

bigluv · 01-23-2014, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

Touchy?

Look, I am not talking about every woman that gets raped likes it.

I am just asking the question, do some women that get raped like it?

This works both ways of course.

If a gay guy has a healthy sex life and he gets jail time. Everyone threatens him that he shouldn't drop the soap.. but he does.. Does said gay guy actually enjoy being butch bills bitch?

You are really dumb.

nikki99 · 01-23-2014, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RubyGoodnight

"Consensual non-consent" is the fetish term you're looking for, I think.

Ruby is british so I will have to believe anything she says about fetishes

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mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	And I still can not believe how you do not grasp simple concept of people not knowing if they would enjoy it. Lets say I am into femdom niche and I like women to kick my balls and then force me to have sex with her. So I prepare such roleplays and enjoy them But I do not want it to happen in real life without me knowing it. And on the other hand I am not sure if I would not like that. I may like that. I do not know. But since I do not want it to happen in real life it means that I do not give consent. And at the same time after it starts to happen I may enjoy it. It would not mean that I gave consent. How is that difficult to understand?

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Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	ok with ya now. you'd know after kick 1 whether you enjoyed it or not, and would either consent to it continuing, or you would not. you wouldn't endure a bollock kicking for x minutes/times, not like it, then the next day decide you did like it after all. It's still not the same as what the op asked though.

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