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MrDeiz · 02-07-2014, 04:29 AM

adapt or die for another industry icon

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http://freeones.com

slapass · 02-07-2014, 04:59 AM

His google traffic got nailed a while ago.

mopek1 · 02-07-2014, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

His google traffic got nailed a while ago.

I remember. I thought if you built a quality site with good retention and TOS you'd be rewarded?

Google won't admit they hate affiliate sites.

Phoenix · 02-07-2014, 05:16 AM

top 2000 site is nothing to sneeze at

BumpUglyz · 02-07-2014, 05:17 AM

true dat

Harmon · 02-07-2014, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1

I remember. I thought if you built a quality site with good retention and TOS you'd be rewarded?

Google won't admit they hate affiliate sites.

It's not that they hate affiliate sites, it's that they want you to buy ad placement so they can continually drive money into the beast.

You people need to learn to mask your links and forward them to the sites, rather than use the raw code provided to you by the program. Use internal site link structure and Google won't know the difference. You just went from being an affiliate in order to make money with spam to providing useful information and links to an end user.

Mutt · 02-07-2014, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1

I remember. I thought if you built a quality site with good retention and TOS you'd be rewarded?

Google won't admit they hate affiliate sites.

What? Google does admit they hate porn industry affiliate sites. They are clueless, porn surfers value many affiliate sites such as Freeones as great resources.

What Google won't admit is how much they love sites that steal content in massive amounts. Unfortunate that nobody in this industry has the scratch to risk in a lawsuit against Google.

Tdash · 02-07-2014, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

It's not that they hate affiliate sites, it's that they want you to buy ad placement so they can continually drive money into the beast.

You people need to learn to mask your links and forward them to the sites, rather than use the raw code provided to you by the program. Use internal site link structure and Google won't know the difference. You just went from being an affiliate in order to make money with spam to providing useful information and links to an end user.

Harmon, can you give an example?

BSleazy · 02-07-2014, 05:52 AM

Must host long videos!

Markul · 02-07-2014, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

What? Google does admit they hate porn industry affiliate sites. They are clueless, porn surfers value many affiliate sites such as Freeones as great resources.

What Google won't admit is how much they love sites that steal content in massive amounts. Unfortunate that nobody in this industry has the scratch to risk in a lawsuit against Google.

NewNick · 02-07-2014, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

What? Google does admit they hate porn industry affiliate sites. They are clueless, porn surfers value many affiliate sites such as Freeones as great resources.

What Google won't admit is how much they love sites that steal content in massive amounts. Unfortunate that nobody in this industry has the scratch to risk in a lawsuit against Google.

+1

Except for it's original cash cow idea (search based on link popularity funded by an advert auction), Google has never produced anything of consequence, it is the biggest pirate of the lot leeching the creative internet for all it is worth.

Look at all the products that google has shelved over the years. Whenever google tries to actually create something itself it fails miserably.

CurrentlySober · 02-07-2014, 05:58 AM

i like poogle...

robwod · 02-07-2014, 06:02 AM

So FreeOnes dropped a mere ~600 places in 2 years and this is a "big decline" ?

That said, let me ask you -- serious question. Who do you know in real life who has actually even heard of Alexa, let alone go there and install their toolbar (besides webmasters)?

I'll say this much, FreeOnes is right up there with some of the best quality traffic demographics of the hundreds of sites we deal with. Their traffic is like gold if you know how to use it and convert it. Great people to deal with too.

Harmon · 02-07-2014, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tdash

Harmon, can you give an example?

ChristyMack.com

WRONG: http://join.christymack.puba.com/tra...1.26.0.0.0.0.0

RIGHT: http://ChristyMack.YourDomain.com
OR: http://www.YourDomain.com/ChristyMack

There are various ways you can achieve this through cpanel and what not and there are also some Wordpress plugins that can help you out with this. Just read up on it, there is ton's of information.

Check out http://wordpress.org/plugins/alc/

Sidenote: I'd stay away from URL shorteners - if they happen to go out of business, so won't your links and that will create a shit ton of work for you.

stoka · 02-07-2014, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tdash

Harmon, can you give an example?

+1

if it does hate aff links i don't think there's an easy way to fuck em over

robwod · 02-07-2014, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

ChristyMack.com

WRONG: http://join.christymack.puba.com/tra...1.26.0.0.0.0.0

This is also one of those ways where lowlife's discover your affiliate ID and thus, already have half of your access information at the affiliate program. Further, for the people scraping your work, it's a simple rewrite to swap your id for theirs. Finally, many webmasters use the same login id, this also allows scrapers, hackers, etc the ability to search Google and create a profile of your affiliate business, which gives them a list of places to try to exploit.

Masking is just smart business all around.

Roald · 02-07-2014, 06:21 AM

Maybe this is the time to buy it Deiz, must go cheap now!!!

PornDiscounts-V · 02-07-2014, 06:23 AM

You can go from 1000 alexa to 2000 alexa rating in 2 years and grow in traffic. This is because more people came on to the internet in that amount of time. So what if more site have more traffic. You still have your own.

Petra · 02-07-2014, 06:38 AM

Don't take my word for it, but I think we're doing pretty OK. ;-) Alexa is just one tool out of the toolbox after all.

Oh yea, and we have some big stuff on its way. Hopefully I'll have something to show off around Phoenix time.

PornDude · 02-07-2014, 06:48 AM

I take your word ;)

CamTraffic · 02-07-2014, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

adapt or die for another industry icon

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http://freeones.com

You should worry about your own site

They are doing pretty well.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-07-2014, 07:01 AM

I don't see how there is any realistic way to cloak/hide affiliate links;
Search engine robots can read HTML, JavaScripts and embedded code.

Search engine robots can read headers.

Search engine robots can be programmed to ignore the robots.txt, nofollow links, meta index directives.

MrDeiz · 02-07-2014, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Maybe this is the time to buy it Deiz, must go cheap now!!!

nice trolling
on the other side it's nothing but delusion to say freeones is doing fine. many gfy oldtimers can't get out of it, economy & reallife does it for them

seeandsee · 02-07-2014, 07:19 AM

Only they know how much traffic they have

Roald · 02-07-2014, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

nice trolling
on the other side it's nothing but delusion to say freeones is doing fine. many gfy oldtimers can't get out of it, economy & reallife does it for them

Why do you think I left? I had to pay to work there

Jel · 02-07-2014, 07:38 AM

correct me if I'm wrong, but I read this OP as a bash at google, not a bash at freeones. Appears others are seeing it as a bash at freeones? Unless of course I'm the one that's reading it wrong

Barefootsies · 02-07-2014, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Why do you think I left? I had to pay to work there

lucas131 · 02-07-2014, 07:40 AM

must say daizzy is totally out of closet here ...

freeones sure have one of the best traffic, because there is no competition. if your traffic goes down, mostly it means you have comeptition, but freeones dont have any as far i know ... so, what and why are you beating here my friend?

Denny · 02-07-2014, 07:44 AM

MrDeiz · 02-07-2014, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

correct me if I'm wrong, but I read this OP as a bash at google, not a bash at freeones. Appears others are seeing it as a bash at freeones? Unless of course I'm the one that's reading it wrong

i'm referring to the whole situation in this biz, both in-house and outside.

barelist · 02-07-2014, 11:28 AM

That's their search volume from the same time period, doesn't look like too much of a Google hit.

If they got slammed that hard, the search percentage graph would be skewed more to other sources of traffic.

Either they lost traffic overall, or other sites (in all genres) are just ranking higher on Alexa. Also Alexa doesn't only count unique visitors for their ranking, at least last time I checked.

Here's our traffic from Google and Bing over the years (I know it's small):

In all honestly in 2014, you really shouldn't count on traffic from search engines. Focus on something you can control, like social media.

Search engine traffic is nice, but it can go away anytime, for any reason...

That being said... I still follow Google's Page Speed guidelines like the Bible :P

mopek1 · 02-07-2014, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

What? Google does admit they hate porn industry affiliate sites. They are clueless, porn surfers value many affiliate sites such as Freeones as great resources.

What Google won't admit is how much they love sites that steal content in massive amounts. Unfortunate that nobody in this industry has the scratch to risk in a lawsuit against Google.

I meant affiliate sites as a whole including mainstream ones. I know they hate porn.

And you're right about the 2nd paragraph.

PornCious · 02-07-2014, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barelist

In all honestly in 2014, you really shouldn't count on traffic from search engines. Focus on something you can control, like social media.

Search engine traffic is nice, but it can go away anytime, for any reason...

what he said...

Freeones seems to be doing okay with 7-8M daily traffic and ~58% search traffic. Alexa is relatively good indicator for site traffic/rank but it is not accurate all the time. Try different source.

rockeru · 02-07-2014, 11:56 AM

Freeones should be like Wikipedia for our industry

pornmasta · 02-07-2014, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockeru

Freeones should be like Wikipedia for our industry

signupdamnit · 02-07-2014, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

ChristyMack.com

WRONG: http://join.christymack.puba.com/tra...1.26.0.0.0.0.0

RIGHT: http://ChristyMack.YourDomain.com
OR: http://www.YourDomain.com/ChristyMack

There are various ways you can achieve this through cpanel and what not and there are also some Wordpress plugins that can help you out with this. Just read up on it, there is ton's of information.

Check out http://wordpress.org/plugins/alc/

Sidenote: I'd stay away from URL shorteners - if they happen to go out of business, so won't your links and that will create a shit ton of work for you.

The thing is Google knows how to follow that link to the affiliate site. I guess if you make it nofollow or put it in robots.txt maybe they aren't supposed to but who knows how they scroe such links. I guess it's better than being seen as an affilaite though?

Harmon · 02-07-2014, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

nofollow or put it in robots.txt

Ummm, yeah?

signupdamnit · 02-07-2014, 12:56 PM

Compete only shows them down by about 10% over the last year.

https://siteanalytics.compete.com/freeones.com

It would be interesting to look at their books though.

j3rkules · 02-07-2014, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

What? Google does admit they hate porn industry affiliate sites. They are clueless, porn surfers value many affiliate sites such as Freeones as great resources.

What Google won't admit is how much they love sites that steal content in massive amounts. Unfortunate that nobody in this industry has the scratch to risk in a lawsuit against Google.

JayAllan · 02-07-2014, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick

+1

Look at all the products that google has shelved over the years. Whenever google tries to actually create something itself it fails miserably.

Oh yeah! Like ANDROID

aviatorz · 02-07-2014, 06:31 PM

Sell sell sell!

mopek1 · 02-07-2014, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayAllan

Oh yeah! Like ANDROID

Yeah but there is a lot more that they tried that failed.

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barelist Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 523	That's their search volume from the same time period, doesn't look like too much of a Google hit. If they got slammed that hard, the search percentage graph would be skewed more to other sources of traffic. Either they lost traffic overall, or other sites (in all genres) are just ranking higher on Alexa. Also Alexa doesn't only count unique visitors for their ranking, at least last time I checked. Here's our traffic from Google and Bing over the years (I know it's small): In all honestly in 2014, you really shouldn't count on traffic from search engines. Focus on something you can control, like social media. Search engine traffic is nice, but it can go away anytime, for any reason... That being said... I still follow Google's Page Speed guidelines like the Bible :P __________________ http://www.barelist.com http://www.twitter.com/barelist Last edited by barelist; 02-07-2014 at 11:37 AM..

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