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Old 05-11-2014, 05:35 AM   #51
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There is NOTHING i find hot about her at all...
Same here, she is nothing more than a talentless attention whore.

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if a man was exposing teenage girls to what miley cyrus exposes teenage girls to, the man would be in jail on lewdness & child endangerment charges & would have to register as a sex offender.

go miley!
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if parents don't want their children exposed to miley cyrus's concert then the onus is on them to do that, not on miley to change her concert's theme nor is she to blame for creating a risque show.

+ the risque nature of her show is front and center of the marketing of it, there are no suprises.

I'm also pretty sure a parent is required to accompany underagers to her show.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:50 AM   #57
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worse part is kids are watching this garbage, how can they promote this... short lesbian hair, acting like a whore, dressing like a hooker, acting like a total idiot is tolerated and promoted on mtv/tv, why is that?






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if parents don't want their children exposed to miley cyrus's concert then the onus is on them to do that, not on miley to change her concert's theme nor is she to blame for creating a risque show.

+ the risque nature of her show is front and center of the marketing of it, there are no suprises.

I'm also pretty sure a parent is required to accompany underagers to her show.
I would be inclined to agree with you... about the concert part as there's no way in hell any of my kids would be allowed to go to one of hers (or anyone like her).

The biggest problem I have is how it's thrown in your face at every turn through the media. That and the fact that her target audience is the same as when she was on the disney channel...
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There's a huge difference, and you know it...

Back in the 70's & 80's you actually had to go to a concert to see it. They didn't show it on TV and there was no internet or youtube and the like where this garbage is shoved in little kids' faces at every turn.

How many kids went to motley crew concerts, and how many kids go on youtube?

Acting like there isn't a difference to the level of exposure is nothing more than blatant ignorance.

But wait until you have a daughter, then you'll notice how every single one of these so called "teen idols" do nothing but teach people to be whores and sluts. Or you won't, and I'd truly feel sorry for your daughter.
I have TWO daughters.

And let's leave my personal life out of this.

And as for "blatant ignorance"...don't think you are smarter than I am...you're not.

And for YOU as a pornographer to say that a pop star is bad for our kids is beyond hypocritical.

Kids have to search out to find those kinds of images of Miley sucking on a plastic doll cock. It doesn't just appear on their computer screen by magic. Just like pornography (the hundreds of thousand of FREE full hardcore scenes that the poor kids can see anytime they want) doesn't just come up when you push the "on" button on a computer.

As for Miley on television...haven't seen her do much of anything that controversial on television.

Just like comedians tone it down for t.v. and then tell raunchy x-rated jokes on their live shows.

And for you other ignorant statement...YES, I did see all those bands on television in ALL their glory in the 1970's (we weren't as hung up a society back then). And yes, I had to search for it.

That meant staying up to midnight on a Friday night, taking my 13 inch black and white television into the front yard with an extension cord (because that's the only way I could pick up the station that had it with my rabbit ear antennae), and then watching Don Kirshner's "Rock Concert" show every weekend.

So yes. I saw Alice, I saw the Stones at their most decadent and "satanic", I saw all of it....on television.

You need to take two steps back and stop insulting me. This is a discussion and the only thing that "shocks" me is the hypocrisy of yet another generation.
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I have TWO daughters.

And let's leave my personal life out of this.

And as for "blatant ignorance"...don't think you are smarter than I am...you're not.

And for YOU as a pornographer to say that a pop star is bad for our kids is beyond hypocritical.

Kids have to search out to find those kinds of images of Miley sucking on a plastic doll cock. It doesn't just appear on their computer screen by magic. Just like pornography (the hundreds of thousand of FREE full hardcore scenes that the poor kids can see anytime they want) doesn't just come up when you push the "on" button on a computer.

As for Miley on television...haven't seen her do much of anything that controversial on television.

Just like comedians tone it down for t.v. and then tell raunchy x-rated jokes on their live shows.

And for you other ignorant statement...YES, I did see all those bands on television in ALL their glory in the 1970's (we weren't as hung up a society back then). And yes, I had to search for it.

That meant staying up to midnight on a Friday night, taking my 13 inch black and white television into the front yard with an extension cord (because that's the only way I could pick up the station that had it with my rabbit ear antennae), and then watching Don Kirshner's "Rock Concert" show every weekend.

So yes. I saw Alice, I saw the Stones at their most decadent and "satanic", I saw all of it....on television.

You need to take two steps back and stop insulting me. This is a discussion and the only thing that "shocks" me is the hypocrisy of yet another generation.
You don't have to search for it at all. Every time she pulls a stunt, it's on the news. Go on youtube and the crap shows up on the suggested/recommended list because my daughter watched an alicia keys video... the list goes on, and on, and on. This entire "being a whore is cool" fad is thrown in your face everywhere you look.

And as far as my being a hypocrite because I'm a pornagrapher... for the purpose of this argument, I didn't start out by selling a kid product to kids then flip a switch and target the same audience with porn. My sites aren't on the tv, youtube, spammed all over every media outlet, etc. They've only ever had one target audience, and that audience has been adults.

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Old 05-11-2014, 12:34 PM   #62
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My 9 year old son and 7 year old daughter are huge fans. I told them there is 2 Miley's and that they should not look at the internet one... So far it worked
Nice one! I have a 7yr old too so know how clever they are. No Miley crap here in NL though;-)
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I didn't mean you are a hypocrite because you are a pornographer...that came out wrong. I meant it's hypocritical to be worried about kids seeing Miley Cyrus do her little stage show when there are hundreds of thousands of full scene hardcore videos that are just as easily accessible to kids.

And the "being a whore" fad IS cool to kids. Just like the being a decadent, ambiguously sexual, drug addicted, satan worshiping, guitar playing scumbag was "cool" when we were kids.

I guess I just didn't want to see my generation do the same exact thing as the older generations did. But...it happened anyway. lol
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And for you other ignorant statement...YES, I did see all those bands on television in ALL their glory in the 1970's (we weren't as hung up a society back then). And yes, I had to search for it.

That meant staying up to midnight on a Friday night, taking my 13 inch black and white television into the front yard with an extension cord (because that's the only way I could pick up the station that had it with my rabbit ear antennae), and then watching Don Kirshner's "Rock Concert" show every weekend.

So yes. I saw Alice, I saw the Stones at their most decadent and "satanic", I saw all of it....on television.
Let me apologize ahead of time if for some reason you think this is an insult; but your recollection of life in the 60's/70's seems to be a little distorted or a lot different than mine anyway. For example:



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The Doors performing on Ed Sullivan was on broadcast television in primetime and the instructions came from Ed Sullivan himself.

Broadcast television is STILL behind the times with their censorship.

But as far as the society of the 1960's and 1970's among younger people...it was much more wide open and liberal than it is today in my opinion.

And yes...I did watch all the biggest bands of the day on "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" which was a syndicated show that was NOT on broadcast television.

As I said earlier, every comedian out there goes on broadcast t.v. and does a "light" version of their act. Then they perform onstage "live" without being on broadcast t.v. and it's x-rated.

Same with bands.

I saw Wendy O. Williams & The Plasmatics on the old "Tomorrow" show with Tom Snyder back in the 1980's.

Since it was broadcast t.v. she toned it down...slightly.
They did blow up a car right onstage with real explosives...lol.

But she didn't wear the see-through plastic top so you could completely see her big fake tits. Because it was broadcast television. And she didn't use the word "Fuck" every 5 seconds or show her pussy...because it was broadcast t.v.

But the next night on tour she did all of that.

It's the same for Miley Cyrus. She's putting on a show.

When she was a little girl she played and sang and performed in that manner.

Now she is a grown woman and at the top of her game.

What is she supposed to do? Come out and be something she is not?

It's okay for Mick Jagger, Alice Cooper, David Bowie, and the other teen idols of the past to ride cocks and simulate giving head...but since she is a girl she's not allowed to?
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Again, not shocked at her sucking on a love doll's penis.

Here's a pic of David Bowie from the 1970's with guitarist Mick Ronson onstage:


And in Sept. 1970 Jim Morrison was arrested onstage in Miami during a Doors concert where he allegedly whipped his cock out.

Oh the horror of it all! And people screamed then about how it would affect the "kids".

As a kid at that time I can answer that: We thought it was cool as shit! Just like kids today think Miley Cyrus is cool as shit.

That's the way we like our "rock stars". Bad behavior and tunes we can sing along with.

There's nothing new under the sun...except for society's fake "outrage" at everything Miley Cyrus does. ESPECIALLY since we all had our own bands and stars that we admired when we were young and our parents hated.

It's just hypocritical.

"Hey kids of today...when I was young I LOVED the bands and stars that acted out and did drugs and were rebels. But YOU....you can't have that. We only want YOU to enjoy nice, boring, bands and singers that are politically correct and act like pussies."
Those kids grew up and created tube sites
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You don't have kids do you?

Kids mimic EVERYTHING they see. Sure, they might not realize what they are doing is nasty/inappropriate but it doesn't change the fact that this garbage shouldn't be shoved in their faces at every turn.

Now, you might think it cute for kids to be mocking this shit, but I for one do not. And I can't see any parent with half a brain finding this crap cute, or acceptable for their young ones to be watching/mocking.

As for the "but omg you work in porn!!1!!" thought process you have going on... last time I checked, I'm selling porn to adults, not little kids.
as the parent is it not your responsibility to ensure what your child views is up to your standards? expecting the world to cater the various levels of what parents find acceptable is moronic. don't expect the television to raise your kids for you. don't expect the internet to be a good place for your kids to be. monitor what your kids watch and if they see something you don't approve of talk to them about why you don't approve of it.
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I didn't mean you are a hypocrite because you are a pornographer...that came out wrong. I meant it's hypocritical to be worried about kids seeing Miley Cyrus do her little stage show when there are hundreds of thousands of full scene hardcore videos that are just as easily accessible to kids.

And the "being a whore" fad IS cool to kids. Just like the being a decadent, ambiguously sexual, drug addicted, satan worshiping, guitar playing scumbag was "cool" when we were kids.

I guess I just didn't want to see my generation do the same exact thing as the older generations did. But...it happened anyway. lol
the more parents try and demonize these people the more the kids will search them out. the more you try and keep everything from your kid, the more curious he or she will be. its always the same thing. tell them not to do something and that's exactly what they will do whatever it takes to go out and do it. its a part of the teenage brain to want to push limits and want to rebel.
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The Doors performing on Ed Sullivan was on broadcast television in primetime and the instructions came from Ed Sullivan himself.

Broadcast television is STILL behind the times with their censorship.

But as far as the society of the 1960's and 1970's among younger people...it was much more wide open and liberal than it is today in my opinion.

And yes...I did watch all the biggest bands of the day on "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" which was a syndicated show that was NOT on broadcast television.

As I said earlier, every comedian out there goes on broadcast t.v. and does a "light" version of their act. Then they perform onstage "live" without being on broadcast t.v. and it's x-rated.

Same with bands.

I saw Wendy O. Williams & The Plasmatics on the old "Tomorrow" show with Tom Snyder back in the 1980's.

Since it was broadcast t.v. she toned it down...slightly.
They did blow up a car right onstage with real explosives...lol.

But she didn't wear the see-through plastic top so you could completely see her big fake tits. Because it was broadcast television. And she didn't use the word "Fuck" every 5 seconds or show her pussy...because it was broadcast t.v.

But the next night on tour she did all of that.

It's the same for Miley Cyrus. She's putting on a show.

When she was a little girl she played and sang and performed in that manner.

Now she is a grown woman and at the top of her game.

What is she supposed to do? Come out and be something she is not?

It's okay for Mick Jagger, Alice Cooper, David Bowie, and the other teen idols of the past to ride cocks and simulate giving head...but since she is a girl she's not allowed to?
speaking of wendy o williams, supposedly she refused to cover up her tits for the show solid gold and as a compromise they agreed she would paint them black to match her top and cover up the nips. can you imagine miley doing this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iij2_JvHGr8

you can also mention the band the runaways. 15-16-17 year olds in a band singing about sex drugs and rock n roll (and living it) in the late 70's. i think the main problem people have is the fact that she was famous as a kid doing kid stuff but does that mean she doesn't get to grow up and has to forever cater to the G rated disney audience? oh and kids grow up too, the kids that were watching her when she was a kid are now older as well.
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The biggest problem I have is how it's thrown in your face at every turn through the media. That and the fact that her target audience is the same as when she was on the disney channel...
#1 - miley being in everyones faces is part of being a top shelf pop star. you should be mad at the media for making a blog post everytime she sticks out her tongue.

#2 - she is not targeting the same audience, not even close. Disneys target was tweens. Tweens are not adults. Mileys target is young adults. to the contrary, she appears to be doing the maximum to shed her hanna montana persona, which is the opposite of targeting the same audience.

i dont know if you are suggesting that she be censored, or the media censor her or what. But for a porn guy to ever want someone elses content controlled is definitely the height of hypocrisy. All porn producers target adults, duh. But kids see our work, fact. & there are people that want to ban us because we cannot prevent children from seeing our websites. So you suggesting she be censored is the same nonsense that the anti-porn crowd attempts to hoist onto us.

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be thankful this kind of stuff isn't as popular as miley..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swzqUrYxjes
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Same here, she is nothing more than a talentless attention whore.

say it aint so! a horny girl under 25 that has over a million dollars is not fuckable.

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say it aint so! a horny girl under 25 that has over a million dollars is not fuckable.

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there's a lot more zeros in there!
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I don't watch or listen to pop music much, so I wasn't familiar with Miley's music, aside from watching Wrecking Ball a Few Times (sadly, I've seen the Ron Jeremy version even more times):



Now I know why she does the outrageous stuff...one word: auto-tune (although I've heard she can sing).



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Is that why David Bowie (who was a thousand times more "outrageous") did the "outrageous stuff" too?

Or how about Freddie Mercury? Because he couldn't sing?

I believe I might be the oldest guy in this thread...or close to it. And yet all of you sound like you could be my freakin' grandfather!

I will say it again: Miley Cyrus is LIGHTWEIGHT in terms of "outrage" and "shocking" and even her partying.

You guys are just acting like a bunch of old farts. Congratulations...you've become your parents.
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:14 AM   #78
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:50 AM   #79
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That meant staying up to midnight on a Friday night, taking my 13 inch black and white television into the front yard with an extension cord (because that's the only way I could pick up the station that had it with my rabbit ear antennae), and then watching Don Kirshner's "Rock Concert" show every weekend. KEY POINT: Firstly, you had to know what to look for, then you had to know when and where to look.
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Youtube, vimeo, dailymotion, primetime news, afternoon news, breaking news, facebook, and every other social/mainstream media outlet known to man. KEY POINT: You don't even have to know what to look for as it's shoved in your face at every turn.


You cannot possibly tell me you don't realize the major difference between the 70's/80's and today when it comes to this stuff.

As for the "you're a pornographer arguing for censorship... hypocrite!" argument. Once again, there is a difference between selling porn that is targeted at adults, and selling whorism/borderline pornography that is targeted at children and plastered all over the mainstream stage; essentially being forced upon you whether you want to see it or not.

And yes, for the record, I would be completely against any porn being shown on the mainstream stage. And I would most definitely be against porn being shoved in the faces of a non adult audience at every outlet known to man...

Fact is, you can't go on youtube (etc) and get a recommended playlist of porn videos (even the stuff with the mature filter on doesn't show up, which you'd also have to sign in and confirm your age to view). You can't turn on the tv at any given time and see some porn clip being played. You can't go on facebook (etc) and add porn networks as friends unless you confirm you're 18.

But sure as shit, you can go on youtube (etc), local tv channels (etc), social media and the like and watch miley cyrus suck off a blow up doll...

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What happened inside her head...
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:43 AM   #81
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:47 AM   #82
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Her songs are ok but I'm sick of her.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:41 AM   #83
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Damn, the bitch clearly is an attention whore running out of ideas.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:52 AM   #84
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selling whorism/borderline pornography that is targeted at children. and plastered all over the mainstream stage; essentially being forced upon you whether you want to see it or not.
I don't think she is "targeted at children" at all.

No more than Motley Crue was "targeted at children". Yeah, kids like the newest music. But her "Hannah Montana" days have been over for 4 years.

She's a grown up woman doing songs that are aimed at other young adults who go to clubs.

If she kept singing songs for little kids she wouldn't have a career left.

And when you say "mainstream stage"...do you mean for "mainstream" consumption?
Then that would fit right in with "Game Of Thrones", "The Wolf Of WallStreet", and every movie that ever had fucking in it wouldn't it?

And that would include all the bands I mentioned before as well: Mick Jagger riding a giant cock onstage 42 years ago (and yes, that was all in Creem Magazine which all us teenagers read every month to keep up with our favorite bands...yes, we actually kept up with things BEFORE the internet), Ozzy Osbourne biting the head off a bird onstage, Alice Cooper simulating necrophilia in his songs and onstage show, etc., etc.

All of that too...was part of "mainstream" entertainment.

I can go down to Caesars Palace here in Vegas and go to the "Absinthe" show and see more "shocking" and "outrageous" visuals and xxx humor than Miley Cyrus will ever do onstage.
And yes...that's about as part of the "mainstream stage" as it gets.

Face it...it's all because Miley Cyrus was once a child star. Has everybody up in arms. She's not supposed to ever change.

She had a different idea. And it's been wildly successful for her at the moment.

A big show full of "controversy" and just a little bit "dangerous" has always been the key to showbiz success.
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Somebody needs to say "hey girl, give it a rest".
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:37 PM   #86
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Somebody needs to say "hey girl, give it a rest".
I think her record sales and money she's making on tour will probably be the indicator she is going to use for when it's time to "scale back".

But if the decadence and outrageousness of all the biggest stars of the past is any indication...she's nowhere close to that yet.
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