News The Top 8 White House Bergdahl Lies

[Vendzilla]

Lie #1: Bergdahl was very sick

Bergdahl?s health was not rapidly deteriorating, as the administration claimed. Reports have leaked that the only medical problems Bergdahl is suffering from are ?gum and skin disorders? associated with poor hygiene.

The video of Sgt. Bergdahl?s handover to American forces that was released by the Taliban shows Sgt. Bergdahl looking relatively healthy. In the tape, he is seen walking into the company of U.S. special operations forces and then climbing into the aircraft without assistance. The video also shows him lucid and communicating with his captors. We know from previous reporting that he was able to write down the letters ?SF? with a question mark on paper once inside the helicopter, as a way of asking his rescuers if they were special forces. This proved that his fine motor skills were intact, and that he was aware of his surroundings.

It has also been reported that one of the few exchange between Bergdahl?s rescuers and his captors was a question about his health. The Taliban said he was not sick. Finally, reports from Landsthul Regional Medical Center in Germany state that Sgt. Bergdahl has been in stable condition.

Lie #2: The Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl

To further justify its decision not to inform Congress (in violation of the law), administration officials claimed that there was a threat to kill Bergdahl if details of the prisoner swap were released. But Democrat Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has stated that there is no credible information indicating that there was a threat to Berghdal?s life.

Lie #3: The administration informed Congress about the swap

Reports from Capitol Hill have informed us that the administration last discussed the possibility of a prisoner transfer with members of Congress several years ago. At that time, there was bipartisan and bicameral opposition to the idea. The law requires that the administration notify Congress 30 days prior to the release of any detainee from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The administration has admitted that it engaged in negotiations to secure the deal that set Bergdahl free for over a week prior to the swap. During that week, the administration never informed Congress ? and only notified congressional leaders after the deal had been reached, after the detainees from Guantanamo were released, and after Berghdal was in American custody.

It appears that the administration chose to willfully violate the law by not informing Congress, as we now know that there was no credible threat to Bergdahl?s life, he wasn?t ill, and the administration was negotiating for over a week with his captors.

Lie #4: The U.S. didn?t negotiate with terrorists

The president?s national security adviser, Ambassador Susan Rice of Benghazi infamy, returned to the Sunday morning talk show circuit last weekend to defend the Obama administration?s decision to release the terrorists. When CNN?s Candy Crowley asked, ?Point blank, did the U.S. negotiate with terrorists?? Ambassador Rice said no.

She claimed that by negotiating through the government of Qatar, the United States didn?t negotiate with terrorists. The problem is that the government of Qatar wasn?t holding Sgt. Bergdahl captive ? the Haqqani Network was. The Obama administration officially designated the Haqqani Network a terrorist group in 2012.

Lie #5: Berghdal served with honor and distinction

On ABC?s ?This Week,? Rice said that Bergdahl served with ?honor and distinction.? By all accounts his service was not honorable, but was in fact distinct: Bergdahl has the distinction of being the only American soldier to desert his post in Afghanistan and walk into the arms of the enemy.

Statements about him being a traitor, however, are premature. There is not yet a clear indication as to why he deserted his post, or if he aided the enemy. Claims that he trained the Taliban in explosives are hard to believe, because as a private first class infantryman in the Army, Bergdahl would have had little to no explosives training other than basic familiarization, which every soldier receives.

But there is plenty of reason to be plenty suspicious. It?s been said that Bergdahl mailed home his personal items two weeks before he walked off his post ? something completely abnormal in a combat zone. It has also been said that he left behind his weapon, body armor and helmet, only taking a compass with him. Additionally, reports in the press stated that Afghan villagers have said Bergdahl wandered around asking to meet with Taliban.

Only time will tell if these claims are true, but it is becoming pretty clear based on the testimony of his former platoon mates, and the Army?s preliminary investigation into the incident, that Bergdahl did in fact desert his post.

Lie #6: The release of the terrorists poses little to no risk to the U.S.

Just days after being released from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba family members of one of the five detainees released by the United States told NBC news that the former Taliban commander, Mullah Norullah Nori, planned to return to the fight in Afghanistan. Nori is a former Taliban Provincial Governor and is said to be responsible for the Shia Muslim genocide in Western Afghanistan prior to 9/11. The attacks he ordered against his own countrymen resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians who were slaughtered for practicing a different form of Islam than the Taliban.

Lie #7: The five terrorists released from Guantanamo Bay will be under U.S. monitoring

U.S. officials have publicly stated that the United States will be actively monitoring the released terrorists while they remain in Qatar for one year. The administration claimed that the terrorists would remain in Qatari custody for at least one year before being permitted to travel outside that country. Qatari government officials, however, said that the deal that was reached did not allow for U.S. monitoring of the detainees, and that they would be free to move about the country while they remained in Qatar.

The Qataris did say that they would be monitoring the detainees while they remained as guests in their country. This is not comforting, though, because Qatar has failed to do so at least twice in the past ? despite guarantees made to the U.S. government.

In 1996, the United States believed that Qatari intelligence officials were monitoring the movements of Khalid Sheik Mohammad while he was in their country. He was able to evade their monitoring efforts and went on to mastermind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Another terrorist the Qataris were supposed to be watching after his release from Guantanamo Bay Cuba, Jarallah al-Marri, also managed to leave Qatar and was arrested in London in 2009.

Lie #8: This was the ?last, best chance? to bring Bergdahl home

I don?t know what crystal ball the administration was using to make this claim, but there is no indication that this is true.

To date, the Taliban have failed to engage in any meaningful peace talks with the U.S. or the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban have said that they will not negotiate as long as foreign troops remain in Afghanistan. With the U.S. and her coalition allies scheduled to leave Afghanistan at the end of this year, it is quite plausible that resolving the status of Bergdahl and the five terrorists that were just released from Guantanamo Bay could have helped secure a larger peace agreement. That is pure speculation, but is no more speculative than the administration?s claim that this was the last, best chance to secure Bergdahl?s release. What is their speculation based on?

Bergdahl was release May 31. In the days since, the administration has pushed the narrative that he was ill; his life was threatened; Congress was informed; this was not a negotiation with terrorists; he served with honor and distinction; the released Taliban leaders are not a threat; the Gitmo Five will be monitored by the U.S.; and this was the ?last, best chance? to bring Bergdahl home. Every single one of these statements has been shown to be false ? to be a lie.



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[bronco67]

Will you get off it already? When wars end, we get your prisoners of war back. End of story. Find another scandal.

you just exerted yourself writing all that for nothing. Or is it copied and pasted from some conservative rag blog?

[candyflip]

I really don't get why this is an issue. Is this really just one side grasping at straws?

As this is a Dumbzilla post, I am going to assume so.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I really don't get why this is an issue. Is this really just one side grasping at straws?

The Republican party has been grasping at straws now since Obama moved into the White House. It's very sad really.

[Vendzilla]

Whitehouse lied releasing terrorist for a deserter,, but you assholes are ok with that?

You guys seriously have your heads up Obama's ass too far, come out for some air once in a while

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The Republican party has been grasping at straws now since Obama moved into the White House. It's very sad really.

Hey shit bag, this is only partisan for the people defending this.

Diane Feinstein even spoke out against it, among other democrats

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Will you get off it already? When wars end, we get your prisoners of war back. End of story. Find another scandal.

you just exerted yourself writing all that for nothing. Or is it copied and pasted from some conservative rag blog?

It must really hurt to know that the Koch brothers gave 25 million to the UNCF

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/09/le...koch-brothers/

Fucking liberals are never happy!

[trevesty]

Interesting to see a former service member being okay with leaving any person behind regardless of the circumstances.

"SUPPORT THE TROOPS!" "... wait, only the ones that have the same beliefs that I do and do everything that I think is right, and fuck their health care, too!"

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I really don't get why this is an issue. Is this really just one side grasping at straws?

As this is a Dumbzilla post, I am going to assume so.

You must be really fucking stupid

[Vendzilla]

It's funny that the usual suspects are attacking me and not the information I posted, they must figure it's all true I guess

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's funny that the usual suspects are attacking me and not the information I posted, they must figure it's all true I guess

I don't particularly care about the information you posted. It all says to me "Hi, I'm on the far right, I will do anything I can to try to make anyone slightly left of me look like a dirty commie liberal trying to take our guns and freedoms!"

Regardless of that, anything we can do to get EVERY service member home, regardless of circumstance and ESPECIALLY ones who are in enemy hands is great. Anything short of that is unacceptable.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Interesting to see a former service member being okay with leaving any person behind regardless of the circumstances.

"SUPPORT THE TROOPS!" "... wait, only the ones that have the same beliefs that I do and do everything that I think is right, and fuck their health care, too!"

I guess you're posting again without knowing jack shit.

He's a deserter, he walked off his post. I could give a rats ass about him, or can't you even fucking read?

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I guess you're posting again without knowing jack shit.

He's a deserter, he walked off his post. I could give a rats ass about him, or can't you even fucking read?

What?

"...regardless of the circumstances."

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

I don't particularly care about the information you posted. It all says to me "Hi, I'm on the far right, I will do anything I can to try to make anyone slightly left of me look like a dirty commie liberal trying to take our guns and freedoms!"

Regardless of that, anything we can do to get EVERY service member home, regardless of circumstance and ESPECIALLY ones who are in enemy hands is great. Anything short of that is unacceptable.

Yeah, lets bring him back and shoot his deserting ass, fuck you are a moron

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Yeah, lets bring him back and shoot his deserting ass, fuck you are a moron

YEAH SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

I'd rather be called a moron than be a fat, old has been.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

What?

"...regardless of the circumstances."

Article 85

(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

YEAH SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

I'd rather be called a moron than be a fat, old has been.

LOL, I can lose weight. You are stuck with your stupidity

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Article 85

(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.?

Thanks. I had no idea!

Are you a military judge hearing this soldier's case? No? Then shut the fuck up.

[Vendzilla]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...l-on-bergdahl/

The USA Today/Pew Research Center poll shows people in households with veterans disapprove of the deal 55 percent to 26 percent. In addition, according to USA Today, veterans themselves disapprove 68-16, and 33 percent of veterans say they are "angry" about the deal, while just 6 percent say they sympathize with Bergdahl, who has been accused of deserting his unit.
Among all Americans, 43 percent disapprove of the deal, while 34 percent say it was the right thing to do.
The poll is the second to deal in-depth with the Bergdahl deal since the situation got heated last week. A Washington Post/ABC News poll last week showed Americans were split on the deal.
Not surprisingly, Republicans are more unhappy with the deal than Democrats, with 71 percent opposed. But about one-quarter (24 percent) of members of Obama's own party are also unhappy.

[trevesty]

YEAH! REPUBLICANS SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

Apparently 71% don't.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Thanks. I had no idea!

Are you a military judge hearing this soldier's case? No? Then shut the fuck up.

Sorry, can't handle the truth that you're an idiot?

I would be surprised if you ever had an idea, but read about how the polls are going, even the democrats are getting upset about it.

Veterans are getting pissed.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

YEAH! REPUBLICANS SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

Apparently 71% don't.

Where does it say that they don't support the troops?

Putting terrorist back in the fight against our troops would be better? fuck you are stupid!

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Sorry, can't handle the truth that you're an idiot?

I would be surprised if you ever had an idea, but read about how the polls are going, even the democrats are getting upset about it.

Veterans are getting pissed.

I'll be sure to let you know when I'm concerned about what the general publics' opinion on a certain issue is and how that affects my thought process. Don't hold your breath.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

YEAH! REPUBLICANS SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

Apparently 71% don't.

So you're the idiot that by your thinking would have us believe that 55% of veterans don't support our troops?

Fucking moron!

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

I'll be sure to let you know when I'm concerned about what the general publics' opinion on a certain issue is and how that affects my thought process. Don't hold your breath.

So veterans are the general public? can you even read above the 3rd grade level?

[Vendzilla]

Ok, taking a break, this thread is turning into a travesty

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Where does it say that they don't support the troops?

Putting terrorist back in the fight against our troops would be better? fuck you are stupid!

I think I was pretty clear about whatever we can do to get our troops home, especially those in enemy hands, is okay by me. I actually support our military, though, rather than just buying a bumper sticker and posting about how awesome Veteran's Day is on Facebook. You should try it.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So you're the idiot that by your thinking would have us believe that 55% of veterans don't support our troops?

Fucking moron!

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So veterans are the general public? can you even read above the 3rd grade level?

Can you not even keep up with what you(yes, that's you) posted?

[timlover]

I'm a war veteran and I know a shit ton of veterans and none of them are pissed.

Hundreds of soldiers go awol every day. Doesn't make them traitors or deserters. These guys are just young and fact is not everybody is cracked up to be a soldier, let alone live in a war zone.

I'd rather have some guy just walk off and leave during a shit run of the mill detail, then have him stick around and then have a moment of uncertainty in a gun fight.

None of that still means jack shit with the fact that every American needs to be brought home regardless of how or why they were captured. If they need to face UCMJ than thats for the JAG office to decide. Not politicians and certainly not Bill Orielly.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by timlover

I'm a war veteran and I know a shit ton of veterans and none of them are pissed.

Hundreds of soldiers go awol every day. Doesn't make them traitors or deserters. These guys are just young and fact is not everybody is cracked up to be a soldier, let alone live in a war zone.

I'd rather have some guy just walk off and leave during a shit run of the mill detail, then have him stick around and then have a moment of uncertainty in a gun fight.

None of that still means jack shit with the fact that every American needs to be brought home regardless of how or why they were captured. If they need to face UCMJ than thats for the JAG office to decide. Not politicians and certainly not Bill Orielly.

[trevesty]

All the vets I see whining about this on Facebook were pogues anyway. None of the infantry / operators I know are even slightly upset. When asked, they basically say the same thing "timlover" said - they'd rather him go off post / awol if he doesn't want to be there than get the rest of them killed.

But you'd have to leave a desk to understand that.

[timlover]

I'll also add that there is nothing more disgusting to veterans or active duty personnel than having civilians blabber on about shit like this and try and guise it under the "supporting the troops"....when all it really is, is bullshit agendized propoganda to try and prop up your personal opinion.

Don't use our service to try and win your political arguments. That kind of makes you a joke in our eyes. Like you need a history book to understand soldiers views on being entangled in politics....

You want to support a veteran. Shake my hand or buy me a beer, but don't use me as an excuse to get on your soapbox so you can see up Sarah Palins skirt...

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It must really hurt to know that the Koch brothers gave 25 million to the UNCF

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/09/le...koch-brothers/

Fucking liberals are never happy!

Pretty transparent move by those jerkoffs. The world will be a better place when they're dead, which hopefully will be in the next few years.

What is that uniform in your avatar?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by timlover

I'll also add that there is nothing more disgusting to veterans or active duty personnel than having civilians blabber on about shit like this and try and guise it under the "supporting the troops"....when all it really is, is bullshit agendized propoganda to try and prop up your personal opinion.

Don't use our service to try and win your political arguments. That kind of makes you a joke in our eyes. Like you need a history book to understand soldiers views on being entangled in politics....

You want to support a veteran. Shake my hand or buy me a beer, but don't use me as an excuse to get on your soapbox so you can see up Sarah Palins skirt...

Civilians are not here for the military, the military is here for us.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by timlover

I'm a war veteran and I know a shit ton of veterans and none of them are pissed.

Hundreds of soldiers go awol every day. Doesn't make them traitors or deserters. These guys are just young and fact is not everybody is cracked up to be a soldier, let alone live in a war zone.

I'd rather have some guy just walk off and leave during a shit run of the mill detail, then have him stick around and then have a moment of uncertainty in a gun fight.

None of that still means jack shit with the fact that every American needs to be brought home regardless of how or why they were captured. If they need to face UCMJ than thats for the JAG office to decide. Not politicians and certainly not Bill Orielly.

Exactly. It doesn't matter what happened; He is a US Solider and an American Citizen and he needs to come home no matter what.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Exactly. It doesn't matter what happened; He is a US Solider and an American Citizen and he needs to come home no matter what.

Even when that means possibly jeopardizing the lives of millions of future military men and women?

Not a lot of big picture thinking going on. This is the Me society we have created I suppose.

[Robbie]

Fuck the Republicans.

My question is: How the hell do we keep holding prisoners in Guantanamo indefinitely???

If another country did that to us, we would call them "hostages". Yet when we do it? It's "okay"?

This just shows how fucked up and out of touch with the ideals this country was founded on that our politicians and Federal Govt. are.

We are doing the same things that I was told as a child we stood AGAINST.

[TampaToker]

What is done is done. I posted to you a simple fix to prevent this president and future presidents from bypassing congress ever again. Have you reached out to your senator/congressman yet? I have i sent a email to Reid,Boehner and Cruz so far no reply's.

Sitting around and bitching and moaning on forum boards does not get shit done. This president and every other president will continue to use signing statements and they will continue to abuse there power to bypass congress and the LAW!. Here is a list of of congress men/women in your state.


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[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by timlover

I'll also add that there is nothing more disgusting to veterans or active duty personnel than having civilians blabber on about shit like this and try and guise it under the "supporting the troops"....when all it really is, is bullshit agendized propoganda to try and prop up your personal opinion.

Don't use our service to try and win your political arguments. That kind of makes you a joke in our eyes. Like you need a history book to understand soldiers views on being entangled in politics....

You want to support a veteran. Shake my hand or buy me a beer, but don't use me as an excuse to get on your soapbox so you can see up Sarah Palins skirt...

Fuck off if you can't read, the Army already ruled in 2010 that he deserted his post.

I don't give a rats ass about partisan politics, what I care about is trading 5 top Taliban terrorist for a deserter. One has already said he is rejoining the fight against us. That puts our troops in more danger, or do you not get that.

This post isn't even about that, it's about the lies that the white house has put out about this to protect it's ass, or are you ok with the potus lying directly to the US people?

So your a vet and you are free to feel the way you do, I'm a vet and got hazardous duty pay for 3 years, and I just posted the facts about lies the White House has put out. The assholes that followed made it about partisan politics. I didn't......

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Sly

Even when that means possibly jeopardizing the lives of millions of future military men and women?

Not a lot of big picture thinking going on. This is the Me society we have created I suppose.

Come on, man... millions in the future? That's fear mongering at its finest. I'm sorry you fell for it, but it's bullshit. That's not "big picture" thinking - that's "omg so scary" thinking - which I wouldn't really call thinking anyway. It has nothing to do with "me thinking".

Every service member deserves to come home. If they broke the UCMJ, then they will be tried in a military court accordingly. They still deserve to come home.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Fuck the Republicans.

My question is: How the hell do we keep holding prisoners in Guantanamo indefinitely???

If another country did that to us, we would call them "hostages". Yet when we do it? It's "okay"?

This just shows how fucked up and out of touch with the ideals this country was founded on that our politicians and Federal Govt. are.

We are doing the same things that I was told as a child we stood AGAINST.

They should have had a military trial and executed a long time ago.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Fuck off if you can't read, the Army already ruled in 2010 that he deserted his post.

I don't give a rats ass about partisan politics, what I care about is trading 5 top Taliban terrorist for a deserter. One has already said he is rejoining the fight against us. That puts our troops in more danger, or do you not get that.

This post isn't even about that, it's about the lies that the white house has put out about this to protect it's ass, or are you ok with the potus lying directly to the US people?

So your a vet and you are free to feel the way you do, I'm a vet and got hazardous duty pay for 3 years, and I just posted the facts about lies the White House has put out. The assholes that followed made it about partisan politics. I didn't......

Uh oh, 5 guys who couldn't hit the broad side of the barn from 10 feet out are going to be back in Afghanistan. So scary. Better grab my tissues.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So your a vet and you are free to feel the way you do, I'm a vet and got hazardous duty pay for 3 years, and I just posted the facts about lies the White House has put out. The assholes that followed made it about partisan politics. I didn't......

Translation: I sat on a boat(or submarine) and never shot a round down range in combat while the Navy considered whatever I was doing hazardous and want to make you think I'm tough. Otherwise known as a pogue.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Pretty transparent move by those jerkoffs. The world will be a better place when they're dead, which hopefully will be in the next few years.

What is that uniform in your avatar?

So you are against them giving money to the UNCF? You wish death on people that give to them? The reason I used the acronym is that I'm not sure the board would allow the full wording.

The uniform is from my trip to China a couple months ago. Terracotta Warriors. Photoshop overlay they do for tourist.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Translation: I sat on a boat(or submarine) and never shot a round down range in combat while the Navy considered whatever I was doing hazardous and want to make you think I'm tough. Otherwise known as a pogue.

80+% of military is support, most anyone talking about being in the military was/is a pogue. very few on the front lines and even very fewer who've seen combat.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Translation: I sat on a boat(or submarine) and never shot a round down range in combat while the Navy considered whatever I was doing hazardous and want to make you think I'm tough. Otherwise known as a pogue.

So first you say you support the troops, then openly bash a veteran.

You have no idea what I did and you wouldn't have the balls to do what I did.

I tell most people what I did, including Rochard and he doesn't want to try it!

Rochard, remember me telling you about the dive tower?

100 ft deep in water, no tank!

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Where does it say that they don't support the troops?

Putting terrorist back in the fight against our troops would be better? fuck you are stupid!

You get that the terrorists he released were being held illegally right? Letting allof those guys go might actually be a blow for freedom.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

80+% of military is support, most anyone talking about being in the military was/is a pogue. very few on the front lines and even very fewer who've seen combat.

I was on a fast attack. We patrolled where we were needed.

Travesty is a whinny fuck that can't make his mind up if he supports veterans or bashes them.



Nuclear powered thrill ride

[timlover]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Fuck off if you can't read, the Army already ruled in 2010 that he deserted his post.

I don't give a rats ass about partisan politics, what I care about is trading 5 top Taliban terrorist for a deserter. One has already said he is rejoining the fight against us. That puts our troops in more danger, or do you not get that.

This post isn't even about that, it's about the lies that the white house has put out about this to protect it's ass, or are you ok with the potus lying directly to the US people?

So your a vet and you are free to feel the way you do, I'm a vet and got hazardous duty pay for 3 years, and I just posted the facts about lies the White House has put out. The assholes that followed made it about partisan politics. I didn't......

War puts troops in danger. They aren't in anymore danger with those 5 guys released then if they sent the 4 Jersey Boys over there to do a troop show. When your number is called when you are a soldier its called, not a god damn thing people can do to change that.

As far as those 5 guys go. I'm sure they have been water boarded to death enough to the point that there brains and psychi are so fucked up that they are useless. The condition that Al Queda and Taliban in nowadays is not the glory days it was in when these guys were imprisoned. These fucks aren't going to want any part of possibly going back to Cuba to spend the rest of their lives being held as combatants. All these assholes want to do is find a nice piece of mountain rock and crawl under it and raise some goats..

I wouldn't get too worried about them anyways. You can bet your ass that they will be blown up anyways by a drone strike if they are caught anywhere near that shit again.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

80+% of military is support, most anyone talking about being in the military was/is a pogue. very few on the front lines and even very fewer who've seen combat.

I'm aware. I'm just illustrating that he has no idea about combat.