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Old 07-23-2014, 07:13 AM   #1
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At what point do you just say fuck it, and keep eating? You've reached the point of no return and just kept on grubbing. I see people too fat to walk on their own and think to myself, "How could they let it get that bad?" -- it's a shame.
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When I hurt my back a long time ago and could not move much and went from playing golf 6 times a week to zero I gained a ton of weight and I know it is hard to believe but I didn't really notice it that much because I saw myself everyday.
It wasn't till I found it hard to do simple things that I did something about it.
I cannot speak for other fatties but not being able to do simple things as well as before and I started sucking at golf made me lose the weight.
Now I play 5 times a week and have my plus 1 handicap back bitches
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do you smoke? do you drink? do you gamble? drugs? do you spend far more money than you should on shit you don't need?

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I admit I think the same when I see fat people who can barely walk.
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A lot of truth to the phenomenon of being too close to notice the subtle, gradual changes. I lost 8 pounds between mid June and mid July but I can't really notice it yet. I'm looking forward to watching it all go and getting in a healthier groove with plenty of activity.
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When I pull a 45 lb plate off the rack sometimes I think, how does someone carry 2x this extra weight around all day? Sometimes more than that.
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A lot of truth to the phenomenon of being too close to notice the subtle, gradual changes. I lost 8 pounds between mid June and mid July but I can't really notice it yet. I'm looking forward to watching it all go and getting in a healthier groove with plenty of activity.
I feel the same way going for 360 to 280 pounds.
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Thanks for not making me say this!! Judging people because of how they look is one of the meaner things I think can be done - people don't just wake up and decide they want to be fat, that isn't how it's done!! And casting stones and making mean and nasty remarks to and about them is exactly the meanest thing that can be done and doesn't make them want to do anything about it - it's just being mean for the sake of being mean in my opinion.
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I think once you break 300 lbs you've pretty much said fuck it. My problem is not so much being a gluttonous pig, but just pure laziness. Im under 200 lbs but im soft like a marshmallow. Time to buy some fucking weights.
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Thanks for not making me say this!! Judging people because of how they look is one of the meaner things I think can be done - people don't just wake up and decide they want to be fat, that isn't how it's done!! And casting stones and making mean and nasty remarks to and about them is exactly the meanest thing that can be done and doesn't make them want to do anything about it - it's just being mean for the sake of being mean in my opinion.
To be honest, i didn't think the original post in this thread was THAT bad. I can see how people think otherwise though.

I've sometimes wondered why when people have to buy bigger clothes, and then bigger again, do they sometimes not think "wait a minute, this can't continue".

When my gf feels a top is getting a little tighter than the last time she wore it, she makes a point of making sure she can get into it better next time...
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Someone else in our industry made a comment about "fat people" and being lazy. Fuck you. At thirty years old when I was single, I was fit and trim too. Fifteen years of working behind a desk 10-12 hours a day plus weekends and raising a child means less time for proper exercise or any exercise.

One person made a comment that they never eat fast food. I avoid it like the plague, but when your kid has an all day sports event and the ONLY food you can get is from the concession stand, guess what.... You are going to eat some crappy food.

I'm forty-five years old, and earlier this year I topped out at 246 lbs. This morning I was 232 lbs. Of course, that was before my half hour run, my hour playing basketball, and my (short) half hour bike ride - All before 9am this morning. This is my morning routine.
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Depression sucks and not only will hold many people back but can also make things much worse. I myself have always been pretty fit but have let myself slip, Like others have stated you don't even notice until its to late. I keep telling myself I'm going to start hitting the weights and get back into shape (I'm 190lbs. just have a little belly..) But it's hard when you feel like shit and have so much going on that has to be done.
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When you are in tune with your body you dont notice when its too late, you prevent it from happening. Most people are lazy and thats why even in the gym you see people who go and look exactly the same day in and day out. Could be laziness, unmotivated, uneducated, or all of the above. I was raised to be health conscious and that has spilled over into my adult life and im forever grateful for that.

There seems to be a certain amount of pity towards overweight people as if this burden was brought upon them from anyone other than themselves. Like they are entitled to be overweight. I never understood this compassion towards the lazy...very very very few people have an actual metabolism or gladular issue which causes them to be overweight.
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Thanks for not making me say this!! Judging people because of how they look is one of the meaner things I think can be done - people don't just wake up and decide they want to be fat, that isn't how it's done!! And casting stones and making mean and nasty remarks to and about them is exactly the meanest thing that can be done and doesn't make them want to do anything about it - it's just being mean for the sake of being mean in my opinion.


Judging others on anything is a slippery slope imo... no-one knows the mental battles someone else faces every day. Threads like this aren't exactly calling anyone specifically out, so in theory no real harm done. It's just a shame that people who are healthy, have no mental battles etc, feel they are somehow better than those who are fat/thin/depressed/addictive/whatever.

Be thankful you aren't like that, but to shit talk others because of the problems *they* face/go through is a bit meh, imo. It *is* a case of that person doing something about it, but at the same time it isn't... when you're in it, you can't see it, most (if not all) of the time.
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Judging others on anything is a slippery slope imo... no-one knows the mental battles someone else faces every day. Threads like this aren't exactly calling anyone specifically out, so in theory no real harm done. It's just a shame that people who are healthy, have no mental battles etc, feel they are somehow better than those who are fat/thin/depressed/addictive/whatever.

Be thankful you aren't like that, but to shit talk others because of the problems *they* face/go through is a bit meh, imo. It *is* a case of that person doing something about it, but at the same time it isn't... when you're in it, you can't see it, most (if not all) of the time.
You could reverse the roles as well...i was 120lbs and got made fun of for being so skinny all the time. Instead of sitting in the corner crying feeling sorry for myself or getting beat up I took that negative energy and made it into something positive and built my body up from 120lbs to 190lbs. I dont feel that Im better than anyone, i just fail to understand why anyone would want to stay in that state of depression or feeling like that when literally 1 workout could change their life and overall sense of well-being.
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When I hurt my back a long time ago and could not move much and went from playing golf 6 times a week to zero I gained a ton of weight and I know it is hard to believe but I didn't really notice it that much because I saw myself everyday.
It wasn't till I found it hard to do simple things that I did something about it.
I cannot speak for other fatties but not being able to do simple things as well as before and I started sucking at golf made me lose the weight.
Now I play 5 times a week and have my plus 1 handicap back bitches

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Thanks for not making me say this!! Judging people because of how they look is one of the meaner things I think can be done - people don't just wake up and decide they want to be fat, that isn't how it's done!! And casting stones and making mean and nasty remarks to and about them is exactly the meanest thing that can be done and doesn't make them want to do anything about it - it's just being mean for the sake of being mean in my opinion.
I don't think the original post is that bad either. If anyone in else in this thread says they don't say "wtf" in their head when they see someone riding around on a scooter or barely able to walk with their gunt swinging 3 feet in either direction with ever step is a liar.

There is a difference between overweight and fat. I totally understand overweight. Life can get in the way of proper exercise, nutrition etc. But to get "fat" like I described above, it takes a considerable amount of work, all the while knowing it is not good. All the while with warning signs going on throughout the process. Clothes not fitting, harder to physically do things, people staring at you.

It is a shame that this happens and I also wonder, How did it get this far?
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You could reverse the roles as well...i was 120lbs and got made fun of for being so skinny all the time. Instead of sitting in the corner crying feeling sorry for myself or getting beat up I took that negative energy and made it into something positive and built my body up from 120lbs to 190lbs. I dont feel that Im better than anyone, i just fail to understand why anyone would want to stay in that state of depression or feeling like that when literally 1 workout could change their life and overall sense of well-being.
yeah agreed, which is why I included skinny

And yep, but not everyone is you - in fact nobody is. You/I/we can't understand why someone would want to stay in that state of depression because

a) nobody *wants* to
b) they are *in* it, so aren't looking at it from a rational viewpoint, as someone who *isn't* in that state would do.

Nothing anyone says or does changes that for that person, they have to hit their own point where the lightbulb comes on for them, then they take the first piece of action, and so on, until they also can't believe that they thought like they did when back in that state.
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It is the cornerstone of civilization actually! Without having higher standards mankind would not progress and we would still be living in caves! It is only through striving for more, superior and better attributes that we progress.

If the Roman's had not cared about beautiful buildings they would have made them all simple squares and never perfected the dome. The appearance mattered to them and it is no different today. Looks matter...it is what separates us from the other animals...

The Olympics for example do not feature fat fucks...they feature the most fit and agile physical specimens that a country can produce to compete. We give awards for the best in everything...superiority is rewarded and valued.

Fatness is not desired as it is not a normal healthy condition. Obese people are not able to run as fast (thank god for them there are no tigers to flew from), they will not live as long due to the problems such as heart disease and diabetes from their extra bulk.

No we do judge and it is normal and natural. Being politically correct and will only get you so far! Reality can not be changed simply to avoid "hurting someone's feelings" as is so popular to do to right now.
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I used to think along the same lines until my mom suffered a series of health issues that hampered her mobility. From there it has kind of snow-balled. Lately, it's been balance issues requiring her to walk with a stroller or when she is shopping to support herself with a shopping cart, even if she is only getting a couple of items. I fear that a scooter and/or becoming homebound is in her future.

Unless you know the person and what they have gone through, then you really should STFU.
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I have yet to find anyone that is perfect and neither are you...
I am almost perfect then Out of those (including OP's thing) only social drinks +- 3 times a month
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To be honest, i didn't think the original post in this thread was THAT bad. I can see how people think otherwise though.

I've sometimes wondered why when people have to buy bigger clothes, and then bigger again, do they sometimes not think "wait a minute, this can't continue".

When my gf feels a top is getting a little tighter than the last time she wore it, she makes a point of making sure she can get into it better next time...
Well said. Op's post is not bad, he is just curious.
And all that sugar coating/being extra nice is not healthy as well. Some harsh true may wake up some people.
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I used to think along the same lines until my mom suffered a series of health issues that hampered her mobility. From there it has kind of snow-balled. Lately, it's been balance issues requiring her to walk with a stroller or when she is shopping to support herself with a shopping cart, even if she is only getting a couple of items. I fear that a scooter and/or becoming homebound is in her future.

Unless you know the person and what they have gone through, then you really should STFU.
Nobody is talking about issues/exceptions like this, where it is justified. That is a given/obvious.
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You could reverse the roles as well...i was 120lbs and got made fun of for being so skinny all the time. Instead of sitting in the corner crying feeling sorry for myself or getting beat up I took that negative energy and made it into something positive and built my body up from 120lbs to 190lbs. I dont feel that Im better than anyone, i just fail to understand why anyone would want to stay in that state of depression or feeling like that when literally 1 workout could change their life and overall sense of well-being.
You were exactly who I was talking about above. (You and another person.) You are a bit ignorant.

I'm not fat because I'm lazy; In fact, just the opposite. Combined with my work schedule and being a parent, I'm a bit busy - yet somehow I managed to go the gym every morning, five days a week. At the same time, I gained weight. One work out is not going to change anyone's life.

I used to think like you fifteen years ago. Then suddenly I gained weight and I couldn't stop it. I was in a downward spiral where I gained forty pounds in six or seven years. The more weight you gain the harder it gets; It's not like you can just start going to the gym or change your eating habits and you will magically shed the pounds - It just doesn't work that way. If it was that easy, everyone would do it, and no one would be fat.

Some people are lucky, have a high metabolism, and combined with some good practices will always be skinny. Pray you never gain weight.
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there's a huge difference between rewarding good athletes, aspiring to create better buildings, or to further yourself, and judging others. You're such a dopey cunt with a 'all humans must die etc' mentality that I understand you probably don't understand the discrepancy.

So fuck off again.

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Nothing anyone says or does changes that for that person, they have to hit their own point where the lightbulb comes on for them, then they take the first piece of action, and so on, until they also can't believe that they thought like they did when back in that state.
You are wrong. That light bulb went off for me years ago, and nothing I could do stopped the weight gain. I tried everything - diets and working out - nothing helped and I continued to gain weight.

I've reserved this trend and lost fifteen pounds but.... I'm putting in a massive effort to do this, starting with three hours of working out every morning and then more at night.
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Nobody is talking about issues/exceptions like this, where it is justified. That is a given/obvious.
Precisely my point. According to the OP and some other posts in this thread, the assumption is that all fat people are glutton's who could otherwise change their condition if they really wanted to. Here it is again:

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At what point do you just say fuck it, and keep eating? You've reached the point of no return and just kept on grubbing. I see people too fat to walk on their own and think to myself, "How could they let it get that bad?" -- it's a shame.
BTW, my mom is also diabetic. She doesn't overeat, and generally prepares healthy meals for herself. But she also frequently needs something sugary when her blood-sugar drops. So, it's not as simple as eating less or cutting out junk food. Due to the balance and mobility issues, more exercise isn't a viable solution either.

So Rob, please tell me, what should my mom do so as not to disturb your delicate sensibilities? Or maybe you could at least try to show a bit of empathy for someone other than yourself.
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Old 07-23-2014, 11:18 AM   #35
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Well said. Op's post is not bad, he is just curious.
And all that sugar coating/being extra nice is not healthy as well. Some harsh true may wake up some people.
fuck all to do with sugar coating and/or being nice, it's about not knowing what someone else's situation is, ever. Unless you are a mindreader of course, in which case, have at it.

And lol, harsh words wake nobody up, harsh words make the speaker feel better, period.
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To be honest, i didn't think the original post in this thread was THAT bad. I can see how people think otherwise though.

I've sometimes wondered why when people have to buy bigger clothes, and then bigger again, do they sometimes not think "wait a minute, this can't continue".

When my gf feels a top is getting a little tighter than the last time she wore it, she makes a point of making sure she can get into it better next time...
I think I was ok until the one about you all stink - that's judgmental and assuming and we know what that entails, don't we? I am not, like I said, in no way thin and a lot of the people I know are the same way, but not even one of them, or myself smells near as bad as 95% of the people I walk by in stores - it's the mean shit that's just said to be being mean, that's what bugged me about it!
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You are wrong. That light bulb went off for me years ago, and nothing I could do stopped the weight gain. I tried everything - diets and working out - nothing helped and I continued to gain weight.

I've reserved this trend and lost fifteen pounds but.... I'm putting in a massive effort to do this, starting with three hours of working out every morning and then more at night.
Well actually I'm right, in the context of how I said it, which was in relation to those who are suffering from depression etc.

Though I agree 100% with this and your other post in this thread.

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in general, and as your posts have shown:
And like I keep saying, nobody knows anybody else's situation - they can guess, spew 'do this do that blahblah' but they don't fucking KNOW
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It's not like you can just start going to the gym or change your eating habits and you will magically shed the pounds - It just doesn't work that way. If it was that easy, everyone would do it, and no one would be fat.
Umm, its exactly like that and it does work that way. If you are going to the gym 5 times per week and still gaining weight you either have a really shitty work out and/or are still taking in more calories than you are burning. None of this shit is rocket science.

Set goals and stick to them. Working out is not fun and there are always a million reasons not to do it.

Burn more calories than you take in. You will lose weight.
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I don't understand fat people, I see some cry about being fat and all it's "features" yet they're too lazy to do anything about it. I would run for hours every day if I had weight issues yet they sit on their asses and eat like pigs.
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Precisely my point. According to the OP and some other posts in this thread, the assumption is that all fat people are glutton's who could otherwise change their condition if they really wanted to.
ex-fucking-actly

maybe everyone should wear a sign stating health/mental/whatever problems, so they get a free pass at being fat/thin, and it's just 'all those others' who we should stick to judging.

I'm just wondering at what fucking point a ton of people thought they had any business being in someone else's business.

I'm not fat, though I used to be skinny, and fuck if I'm going to think I have some kind of right to tell other people how they should think, or what they should do. wtf lol. for one thing, it's nature's way of making sure people die (hey miamicuntz, this is a thread for you after all!). Life has rolled on for millions of years, and will continue to roll on for x years, without the 'wisdom' of the fit & healthy, mentally perfect thoughts of a bunch of people with fuck all better to do than think they know what is going on in someone else's life
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You are wrong. That light bulb went off for me years ago, and nothing I could do stopped the weight gain. I tried everything - diets and working out - nothing helped and I continued to gain weight.

I've reserved this trend and lost fifteen pounds but.... I'm putting in a massive effort to do this, starting with three hours of working out every morning and then more at night.
Don't over-do it. It could have the opposite effect. Some studies have shown that cardio over 30 minutes could actually trigger you to hold on to fat.

Two a days is fine, but keep it short and intense -- like 15 minutes. Get to a point where you're huffing and puffing, then stop. Sprint, don't jog.

fat will melt off, and you'll get all of that time back as a bonus.
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When you are in tune with your body you dont notice when its too late, you prevent it from happening. Most people are lazy and thats why even in the gym you see people who go and look exactly the same day in and day out. Could be laziness, unmotivated, uneducated, or all of the above. I was raised to be health conscious and that has spilled over into my adult life and im forever grateful for that.

There seems to be a certain amount of pity towards overweight people as if this burden was brought upon them from anyone other than themselves. Like they are entitled to be overweight. I never understood this compassion towards the lazy...very very very few people have an actual metabolism or gladular issue which causes them to be overweight.
take this argument and substitute reading and intelligence with being fit and healthy. You have dedicated your life to one while others have dedicated their lives to another... How is what you chose better?

the only difference is you can't see intelligence.
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And lol, harsh words wake nobody up
LOL. Of course harsh words wake SOME/many people up. Sometimes it is one of the combination of things, sometimes it is the last push that helps them wake up.
Pretty ignorant to say that NOBODY was "woken up" by harsh words.

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According to the OP and some other posts in this thread, the assumption is that all fat people are glutton's who could otherwise change their condition if they really wanted to.
Not exactly. It is just not specified as there is no need to specify like that:
"All people except those that have legit health issues/diseases".
No need to specify because it is obvious. Of course nobody would have anythoing bad to say against people who has legit health conditions that makes them fat.
It is given that when people talk like OP they mean ONLY those that are being fat because they are lazy or eating junk etc.

It is so obvious that nobody is talking about people having health conditions like your mom that there is no need to specify that. Everybody understands/assumes that without saying. Strange that some people don't

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LOL. Of course harsh words wake SOME/many people up. Sometimes it is one of the combination of things, sometimes it is the last push that helps them wake up.
Pretty ignorant to say that NOBODY was "woken up" by harsh words.
not those in depression/mental anxiety, which again, was that context.
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Has this turned into a discussion about whether the term "fat" is politically correct or not? I'm weighing in, pun heavily intended..

"Fat" is fine with me! Sorry but I'm rough around the edges and don't care if someone refers to me as fat, overweight, portly, stout or chubby, lmfao. The fact is that it's excess FAT that makes it all possible.

The people offended by the word fat have given it POWER to hurt their feelings. Why? No idea. It's OK to call it fat, because it is fat.

A cigar is just a cigar until someone thinks of it as a penis. hehe
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Has this turned into a discussion about whether the term "fat" is politically correct or not? I'm weighing in, pun heavily intended..

"Fat" is fine with me! Sorry but I'm rough around the edges and don't care if someone refers to me as fat, overweight, portly, stout or chubby, lmfao. The fact is that it's excess FAT that makes it all possible.

The people offended by the word fat have given it POWER to hurt their feelings. Why? No idea. It's OK to call it fat, because it is fat.

A cigar is just a cigar until someone thinks of it as a penis. hehe
Yeah, fucking soft language.
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Has this turned into a discussion about whether the term "fat" is politically correct or not?
If it has I can't see it at all, have I missed something? I thought it had turned into a thread about judging others or not, not knowing others' situations (or knowing them), and whether people should, or shouldn't, mind their own fucking business, and worry about all their own shit that others go 'wtf?' at.

Like I said though, I may have missed something
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I had an ex-g/f that wanted to go on Depo-Provera because she was lazy and couldn't remember to take daily birth control pills. (never forgot her lipstick or make up though) Anyway I did a quick google search and for selfish reasons advised her not to get the shot because of the possibility of gaining weight. Of course she didn't listen.

Sure as shit she quickly gained about 15 pounds. Then, unknown to me, her doctor prescribed her Zoloft for depression. Well she gained about 40 pounds in the next few months directly because of the depression medicine.

Over the winter months she gained over 50 pounds despite eating right and her normal exercising. By the time spring rolled around she was so depressed she upped her Zoloft prescription, gave up eating right and taking care of herself.

She went well over 200 pounds from her previous 120-125 by the end of the year. Years later she still uses old photos on her facebook. None of her original weight was anything but chemically induced.

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