Originally Posted by PeterEA

I got a response from my content management system and turns out that their system can handle sub accounts, so I could use CCBill! Has anyone had any experience getting CCBill to waive the annual credit card cost?!? That would seal the deal for me.

Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer

sound and fury in big red letters

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

^^^you forgot 100 overdue payments



I get that you're a new site owner and you've probably invested a ton of $$$$ already in starting your site, but my advice would be to not get all hung up on the annual VISA/MC fees. The most important criterion (beyond reliability and stability which are vital) is processing percentage, and at 15% IPSP processing fees you're losing a ton of $$$$ every time a member joins your site or rebills. Think about it this way: for smaller merchants not doing 20k per month the difference between merchant account processing fees and IPSP processing fees is in the range of at least 10%, meaning that for every $1000 you net using an IPSP you'd net $1100 with a merchant account. If your site earns you even 1k per week you'd have your VISA/MC fees paid for with that difference in a month and a half. For the next 10 1/2 months you'd pocket that extra 10% you'd otherwise lose to IPSP processing fees.

If your site is earning you any money there is no risk in getting a merchant account and laying down 1k for cc fees, you'll more than cover that cost over the course of the year even if your processing volume as a new site is low.

While there are lots of companies that offer adult merchant accounts and gateways I suggested Payze because as a new webmaster the process can be a bit overwhelming. It was for me anyways. I've been really impressed by the time and effort that Payze expends in working with merchants and they offer rates that are better than a lot of the current options out there. I don't work for the company or have anything to gain in recommending them, rather it's that based on your posts here it sounds like Payze would be a good fit for you

Just my worth less than that, good luck with whatever you choose going forward


more generally, I wanted to mention something about unsettled payment discrepancies in the reserve report section. In my case the seemingly missing payout wasn't actually missing. It turns out that in the reserve report the reserves to be released are now calculated separately from the unsettled payments (whereas before the amount to be sent out included both the current payment and reserves to be released). I'm not actually missing a payment, it was just a coincidence that the reserves to be released ended up being the same amount as one of my two unsettled payments. I redid the math in light of that information and it does all add up correctly.

I'm definitely not a fan of the new system, the way it's designed makes it very difficult to parse the overdue totals available there. For webmasters who are missing $$$$ due to admin recording errors/bugs the new design makes it really difficult to ascertain what exactly is missing. I guess the options are screenshots taken before the admin redesign or lacking those going through past transactions one by one adding them up to figure out exactly what's owed. Not fun. Y'all who are dealing with that have my sympathies



I get that you're the one who started this thread but seriously, with all due respect what do you expect to accomplish with over-sized font rants and insults? That's not going to make Zombaio pay you or anyone else more quickly. The rants won't cause Zombaio to fail, nor will they do anything to help fix the mess that the company is in. Beyond that I don't get why you focus your anger on Zombaio merchant support workers. They're not the cause of payment delays so why single them out instead of the peeps who actually run the company?

why not channel that rage into something productive and go for a long hard run- you'll feel better and you won't end up getting banned from the board for personal attacks. Win-win.

The sage continues I guess. While I hope Zombaio survives this mess I'm really grateful to the gfy community for giving me a kick in the azz to pursue other processing options a few months back. At that time I was still being paid in full and on time by Z but seeing how many webmasters weren't being paid made me really concerned about the future of the company. By the time my payments turned to a trickle I had other options because of the forewarning I received here.

If it wasn't for gfy I'd be flipping the fuck out right now so for real, thanks y'all. wishing everyone the best of luck in getting paid.

Originally Posted by Eschaton

I think they're about to use bogus violations and risk tolerance as a way to terminate accounts and steal webmaster money.

I was hopeful but after seeing that message I'm convinced Tomas Anderson (if that's his real name) set up PayNet (Who is PayNet's CEO? Articles of Incorporation?) under the guise of different ownership, to steal money and to try and salvage what's left.

Until those settlements are paid out, don't process another dime with them.

Originally Posted by Eschaton

I think they're about to use bogus violations and risk tolerance as a way to terminate accounts and steal webmaster money.

I was hopeful but after seeing that message I'm convinced Tomas Anderson (if that's his real name) set up PayNet (Who is PayNet's CEO? Articles of Incorporation?) under the guise of different ownership, to steal money and to try and salvage what's left.

Until those settlements are paid out, don't process another dime with them.

Originally Posted by Eschaton

They could have done it months ago - however they would have gone out of business if they stole everyone's money in one go.

What they instead can do is make more money by terminating larger accounts-owed, continuing to take on smaller merchants, and using the funds they're withholding from users to pay out, creating the illusion they're still a reputable business.

Originally Posted by jdubs1982

I guess that's possible, but if that's really the goal, shouldn't you have done it......months ago? Why still pay out? Running a payment processor that terminates profitable accounts is a pretty short term plan.

I'm "back up your messages with actions" mode.. where wif they dont' pay out then yea all this "new company, new terms, things will be better now" is bullshit, but I mean they're saying in what 2 weeks payments will be on time. I can give them 2 more weeks, I've been waiting all year for my payouts to be on time. But I sorta feel like with someone of you if Tomas, Michael, David and Jesper showed up at your door tomorrow with a bag full of cash covering all your back payments -- you'd claim its a conspiracy to get you to start processing with them again so they could steal your money.

Originally Posted by Zyber

And let's not forget John Cavebring's other company Samport Payment Services AB which he is a founder of.

People in Samport Payment Services AB

Corporate addresses for Samport

Originally Posted by lagcam

Here we go again.

It is easy to pick holes in that communication if that is what you want to do, but it is equally easy to read it as a further step forward if your mind is more open or if you actually want them to pull through this. Personally, for the little that my opinion is worth, I found it to be pretty honest and a lot more serious than previous communications which to me is a good thing.

As a merchant that has done nothing to be considered anything other than in good standing, it pleases me that they look to be taking steps to ensure that the actions of others will have less of an impact on settlements due to me in the future than it seems that they may have had in the past.

That said, I don't understand why the guy who posted that here found it necessary to post it here but then again, I also don't understand why people (those of you that are actually merchants) don't keep your discussions about your account and your overdue payouts out of the public domain and in the appropriate channel. I know that many of you hide your sites and think that you are posting anonymously, but it really isn't the right way to go about things.

When I have a question, I ask Zombaio. If they don't give me a good enough answer, I ask it again and again until they do. As I have said before even if I lose all that they owe me, I will not be here whining about it. Nobody here cares just as nobody here would ask for me or anybody else to be paid before them.

There is no camaraderie here. Get that in your heads. How quickly you will be paid depends upon you and your account, not on whether Showme69 or other people owed money agree with you or give your critical post a pathetic little or

Showme69 doesn't want you to get paid and so looking at him as anything other than a fool will not help you.

What will help in my opinion is looking at the example set by Livepimpin, who posted a few days ago.

Seems that this guy was owed a lot more than most of us combined, and yet the first we hear of it, is that he has been paid in full after agreeing a schedule with them that they honored. This is a proper business man and this is how proper business people go about resolving issues.

If anybody in this thread deserves a it should be him.

Originally Posted by ShowMe69

Interesting how the business is supposedly sold but the emails come from the same CEO who mis-managed the company. PONZI and shell game.

People get your money from this cancerous company and move on to Epoch, Verotel , CCBill, Vendo,etc.......

This company has been making excuses for 8 years, do a search here if you dont believe me.
And come on you know they spent your money on developing Redpass...lol

Originally Posted by lagcam

I "know" nothing of the sort, and neither do you. That is the point.

You are either unable to differentiate between fact and your own opinion or you deliberately make false statements to stir shit but either way it does as much damage to your credibility as it being revealed that you were closed down for illegal content did.

Why don't you go back to constantly spamming those hardlinks? You were actually good at that.

Originally Posted by last click

good luck with everyone

Originally Posted by Markul

But does it say, how to convert cams?

Originally Posted by freeforlife07

i have seen and read many of your post-- and this will be the first i reply too- DONT YOU DARE PISS ON Verotel Chicky---They have saved my ass for years since i decided to add them to my payment option when zombaio had issues back in 2010 -- They(Verotel)have always paid- Like clock work- No setup fee and the new upgrades to the admin is great-- the fee is a little high but again pending my own merchant account they work for me-- i am a long time Zombaio merchant and i wait and watch because thats all you can do at this point... The money they (zombaio) have saved me over 6 years is worth a lil patience... no im not fool and they are on hold from sending them new biz but they have my rebills and patience for the moment- Maybe they will turn around and maybe they will not ( its favored they will with the $0 set up fee and low rates). --- What certain every negative post hurts any biller. SOO i appreciate your input on your Experience with verotel, BUTTT to make a firm statement like "Verotel do not pay" :/ lololololol - I think it was more of an issue with you at the time --

Originally Posted by ShowMe69

Ok...lets talk facts

1. Zombaio has been constantly late going on 1 year
2. A majority of webmasters have not been paid money owed them in a reasonable and timely manner.
3. Some webmasters claim to be owed reserve funds which have not been paid out as per Zombaio contract.
4.Zombaio has been vague and less than transparent throughout this.
5. Zombaio overall service would be considered bad and unsatisfactory
6. Some webmasters claim Zombaio has outright stolen funds from them

I am sure others can add to this list, this is the company you want people to have faith in and keep championing, why cuz they eventually might pay...God dammit dumbass that's what they are supposed to do, its not their money.

Look if you want to keep.cheerleading , grab your pom-poms, adjust your too-too, and start kicking that leg up and moving those hands, scream that chant " Go Zombaio you can do it, pay us when you can, we understand"

Next time do your research my account was close for having the word sleep in the title of two videos out of 40,000. It just so happened during a time I was publicly complaining about late pays.....hummm what a coincidence...lol

Guess what my payments come on time like clockwork now that I am not with Zombaio.
Did they cause me a loss in revenue-ABSOLUTELY

Originally Posted by lagcam

When will you get it into your head that the only person to blame for your account getting canned and any loss of revenue is you?

Accounts don't get terminated without reason. Even a whiny ass client is better than none and many others have publicly complained more than you did and not been terminated.

Why is that? Clearly this wasn't your first offense and you know it.

You even admitted it here on GFY in the original thread where you revealed that you had been canned when you say that "normally" you just remove the BRAM violation and everything is ok.

Here is the actual post for ease of reference.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19665433&postcount=23

My guess is that you used up the number of strikes that they allow.

Timing was unfortunate, but casually saying "normally" when talking about removing BRAM violations, doesn't sound to me like you were treating them as seriously as you should have been, so as I said, you only have yourself to blame...... but you knew that anyway.

Originally Posted by lagcam

When will you get it into your head that the only person to blame for your account getting canned and any loss of revenue is you?

Accounts don't get terminated without reason. Even a whiny ass client is better than none and many others have publicly complained more than you did and not been terminated.

Why is that? Clearly this wasn't your first offense and you know it.

You even admitted it here on GFY in the original thread where you revealed that you had been canned when you say that "normally" you just remove the BRAM violation and everything is ok.

Here is the actual post for ease of reference.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19665433&postcount=23

My guess is that you used up the number of strikes that they allow.

Timing was unfortunate, but casually saying "normally" when talking about removing BRAM violations, doesn't sound to me like you were treating them as seriously as you should have been, so as I said, you only have yourself to blame...... but you knew that anyway.

Originally Posted by disinfected

dude... you really need to stop blowing smoke up people's asses. Anyone with half a brain KNOWS that zambaio canned his account for bitching about late payments.

The fuckwad from zombaio even posted in his thread asking what his account was so he could look into his late payout issue. It was the same day after showme69 emailed the twat that they conveniently closed his account.

What good is it doing by you ignoring the truth? All you are doing is making yourself look like a bigger twat then zambaio. Actually, your website makes you look just as dumb as your rhetoric on this forum.

have a great night!

Originally Posted by lagcam

Another idiot who doesn't understand the difference between *KNOW* and *THINK*.

Here is an example that you might understand better.

I *THINK* that you are Beaner. Not only because you post the same tired old shit and try to engage exactly the same people as he did (with equal success), but also because neither of you can spell Zombaio.

I can't say that I *KNOW* this because I don't, I just think it. Understand now?

Originally Posted by lagcam

I also don't understand why people (those of you that are actually merchants) don't keep your discussions about your account and your overdue payouts out of the public domain and in the appropriate channel. I know that many of you hide your sites and think that you are posting anonymously, but it really isn't the right way to go about things.

When I have a question, I ask Zombaio. If they don't give me a good enough answer, I ask it again and again until they do. As I have said before even if I lose all that they owe me, I will not be here whining about it. Nobody here cares just as nobody here would ask for me or anybody else to be paid before them.

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

while I'm with you that hysteria and the 'burn em at the stake' discourse doesn't serve much purpose, I'm really thankful that Zombaio webmasters have chosen to post their experiences throughout this payout delay, as without that basis of comparison it's difficult to ascertain how widespread or systemic the issue really is. One person isn't getting paid; it could be a check lost in the mail or an account glitch. A significant number of webmasters reporting the same issue indicates that the issue is deeper than that.

I doubt I'm the only one here who was able to minimize risk by arranging other processing options once it became clear that something pretty significant was going on. Those of us who did that were able to prepare because of the peeps posting here on gfy. In my case my payouts were arriving consistently in full and on time for far longer than others here, so without the gfy threads that gave me a head's up I would have been blindsided when the payouts did start to stall.

I'm not all that upset by payment delays, I don't live paycheck to paycheck so as long as there's a legit reason and a concerted effort on the part of the debtor to keep the lines of communication open then it's all good. On that tip, I've never had a bad experience in dealing with Zombaio support staff. Jesper et al. have been consistently great with me and I've never felt lied to or ignored.

My point though is that when a company's payout rate slows to a bare trickle, communication beyond what support staff can provide is vital. I'm far more concerned about the fact that it took months for the company to send out an official communique, and during that time Jesper, David and Michael were stuck fielding questions from webmasters on a case by case basis. Where were the higher-ups for all those months? It's not the place of support staff to release official company statements.

In the absence of any real attempt at communication by the higher-ups at Zombaio, I think that we zombaio webmasters were left on our own to compare experiences and sort through ideas. Sure there's also been a ton of useless drama posting as well but some real info has been shared here by those of us who actually care, those of us who are trying to figure out what's going on, those of us who are here to do more than just vent. your posts are definitely included in that.

While I have no romantic notions about communality on an online message board I definitely don't think we're all just isolated islands without any goals or concerns in common. What happens to other members of services we use should matter to us, if only selfishly because evidence of systemic issues increases the likelihood that those issues will effect others eventually as well.

while I really hope Zombaio survives this, if it does I think it will be in spite of itself. Between the radio silence for months and the occasional CEO statement with new deadlines that come and pass in silence, this saga really has been a tutorial on how NOT to handle a payout delay

I'm with those who do think that Zombaio is trying to fix the problem, that it's not some elaborate ruse to run a scam, but until things get sorted it's normal to be concerned, particularly as some have significant sums at risk. time will tell I guess. wishing everyone good luck in getting paid.

Originally Posted by lagcam

I can't argue with any of that. I think that you have only ever spoken honestly and sensibly on this subject but others here cannot say this and their posts don't help anybody.

Originally Posted by disinfected

^^jesse.

The entire zombaio operation is likely a 2 man operation. The writing has been on the wall for not months, but years.

People told real stories on this forum. I.e. I bitched about late payments and my account got canned. I.e. I transferred my site to someone and they never received any zombaio rebill money... I.e. they canned another account... I.e. they just put out a threatening letter saying anyone, with any infraction (bram etc) will have their account canned.

When people say... email all your members and tell them to chargeback MONTHS ago... it is to 1) end this nonsense and 2) try to get some of your members on new billing.

Do you know that it is VERY simple for zombaio to transfer recurring members to another biller? They won't because they are selfish pigs and want to drag this out till the last online sucker.

Originally Posted by lagcam

I can't argue with any of that. I think that you have only ever spoken honestly and sensibly on this subject but others here cannot say this and their posts don't help anybody.

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

I can't speak with any knowledge to the rebill issue as I only process singular transactions. I don't disbelieve that some merchants haven't been paid out everything that they're owed, I just can't take that as gospel evidence of malfeasance as I'm not aware of all aspects of each story.

In the case of Bram words violations though, tbh if I was Zombaio I'd do the same. Yes some of the words on that list can be used in a ton of different contexts thus rendering much of the list comical*, but violations of that list come with fees and I don't blame Z for canceling BRAM violation accounts. In the case of ShowMe I suspect the BRAM violations were an excuse to bounce a webmaster in violation of cc rules who also complained publicly, but without those violations would he have been axed? None of us can know for sure so I can't really consider that evidence. I'm sorry that happened to him as no doubt the abrupt transition caused him a ton of stress, but is it evidence of a huge ruse on the part of Z? I can't say that with any confidence.

As far as enabling the ability for webmasters to transfer rebills to a different processor, yeah that would be the decent thing to do but their choice is not illegal. I really do feel for those who do use Z for rebills though. It was effortless for me to switch over (at least from a client payment perspective) to a new processor because I have none of the concerns vis a vis monthly repayment systems that many of you use. Still, Zombaio choosing not to implement a transfer service for merchants to move their rebills to a new option isn't evidence of a scam, but rather a company (perhaps shortsightedly) choosing a course more proprietary than would be prudent given the circumstances

as far as Zombaio being a two man operation, not disputing you there. Frankly I don't care how many principals are involved, the point is when ish gets dicey I want to hear from them. The support team -while incredibly helpful in my experience- is not a substitute for open and honest communication with those who actually run the company



^^^^back atcha, and agreed


*I do find it hilarious that the cc companies would fine me till kingdom come if I tried to sell a video with the description:

"after sleeping the night away I awoke from a perfect slumber to the tentacle-like fronds of my bedside fern waving in the breeze. I look out the window and get drunk on the beauty of a vibrant sunrise, unwilling to break gaze as the perfection of the moment slips over and smothers every worry and doubt that lurks, unconscious for the moment at least. I gaze into the sun and the vibrant colors that accompany it's rise. I finally slip out of bed feeling drugged by the beauty of that sky, hypnotized by its radiance. I hate that when I finish my morning Monster Zero I'll have to toss the can instead of recycling it. The lack of recycling facilities here violates my tenet of trying to minimize my eco-footprint on this beautiful land, and leaves me feeling incapacitated in pursuing that goal. Smothered by guilt I head for the gym. Time to get intoxicated on endorphins as I murder my cardio circuit. After that I'll piss myself off reading the morning paper. I wonder what's required to force people to think for a change instead of sedating themselves on soundbites? Shit, are people too tortured and tempted by stupidity, with the easy out of choosing not to analyze a vision these days to even hope for that? I remember back when I was a kid, underage, hating that I couldn't vote.

or in other words, my totally innocuous morning were it captured on film. yes I have too much time on my hands tonight but I'm in a cam show and my guy has left me to my own devices as he's fielded work calls for the past half an hour. It's either this or go for a swim until he's done and I don't feel like taking off my mascara.

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

In the case of Bram words violations though, tbh if I was Zombaio I'd do the same. Yes some of the words on that list can be used in a ton of different contexts thus rendering much of the list comical*, but violations of that list come with fees and I don't blame Z for canceling BRAM violation accounts. In the case of ShowMe I suspect the BRAM violations were an excuse to bounce a webmaster in violation of cc rules who also complained publicly, but without those violations would he have been axed? None of us can know for sure so I can't really consider that evidence. I'm sorry that happened to him as no doubt the abrupt transition caused him a ton of stress, but is it evidence of a huge ruse on the part of Z? I can't say that with any confidence.

Originally Posted by jdubs1982

"Dear Client, The transfer of the business to our new owners as previously announced happened as planned on November 1st. A couple of small reporting bugs were identified and have been resolved but other than that there were no major issues and most importantly no disruption in service. If anybody has noticed anything else in the new control panel that doesn''t seem right, or hasn''t been explained elsewhere, please open a support ticket. Immediately upon taking control, the first priority of the new ownership was to clear our outstanding Acquirer fines and penalties and restore the company''s good standing which has already been completed. This was essential in ensuring that we receive future settlements on time and without deduction and can in turn pay merchants on time. Most merchants have no idea of the huge fines and penalties that can be levied on processors due to mistakes or illegal content on websites they process for and it is fair to say that we as a business have received more than our fair share of these in recent times, eating into our reserves and ultimately causing the cash flow issues that led to where we are now. The first payment for current transactions will be sent out shortly after we receive it into our bank on the 24th November. This will be in respect of the 3 day first processing week 1st to 3rd November with settlement weeks thereafter running from Tuesday to Monday. For this first period, the payout information will not appear in ZOA until the day the settlement is actually created, however this will soon be changed so that the settlement is created and can be found in ZOA the day after the settlement period closes to make it clearer and create less confusion. As we have previously mentioned, and is customary when purchasing a business, Paynet will be releasing funds to clear outstanding balances to us in accordance with an agreed schedule and we will be using those funds to settle amounts owed in batches starting next week. Although we would like to be able to clear everybody at the same time, that is simply not possible the way the deal is structured but I re-iterate that it is our intention to resolve all accounts as soon as we can and ask for just a little more patience while we work through this. Again, as mentioned previously, a number of factors will be looked at when determining the order in which these settlements are made. These will include but not be limited to whether the amounts owed are new sales, re-bills or a mix, whether the merchant is actively sending new sales, whether the account is in good standing generally and whether all websites are free from compliance issues. Unfortunately, one of the things that original Zombaio did wrong with hindsight is that we set the barrier to working with us too low which created a lot of small merchants, with a lot of small payments, and in truth managing these accounts has quite often not been profitable. This is one of a few things that we will be looking at as we try to strengthen the business going forward. Paynet have already told us that they plan to be more selective about merchants and sites accepted going forward and have started a merchant evaluation exercise and compliance checking process as the first part of this. This does not mean that low volume, low value businesses will automatically be blanket removed, but it may mean that in some cases there will need to be changes made to certain aspects of the relationship but if necessary, these will be discussed on an individual basis and any account that needs to be renegotiated or is marked for closure will be allowed a reasonable time to make alternative arrangements. There is still a lot of work to do, but this will be a lot easier with our new stronger foundations, and I just want to give a huge THANKS to all merchant that have been understanding and supportive throughout what was a very difficult time. It really is appreciated. I cannot say this enough. Best regards, Tomas Anderson CEO"



So what does everyone think?

Originally Posted by lagcam

When will you get it into your head that the only person to blame for your account getting canned and any loss of revenue is you?

Accounts don't get terminated without reason. Even a whiny ass client is better than none and many others have publicly complained more than you did and not been terminated.

Why is that? Clearly this wasn't your first offense and you know it.

You even admitted it here on GFY in the original thread where you revealed that you had been canned when you say that "normally" you just remove the BRAM violation and everything is ok.

Here is the actual post for ease of reference.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19665433&postcount=23

My guess is that you used up the number of strikes that they allow.

Timing was unfortunate, but casually saying "normally" when talking about removing BRAM violations, doesn't sound to me like you were treating them as seriously as you should have been, so as I said, you only have yourself to blame...... but you knew that anyway.

Originally Posted by Zyber

Funny how obsessed lagcam is with ShowMe69's account being terminated for BRAM violations because the word sleep existed in 2 of the text descriptions.

Here is the real reason ShowMe69's account was terminated
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20283879&postcount=138


Yesterday I went to a website called http://www.liveasiangirlcams.com/index.jsp and had a look. On this cam website I clicked on one of the preview boxes that said "Free Chat". What I was saw was a live video stream of an Asian girl SLEEPING. Yes, a girl sleeping on webcam. This website with sleeping girls is processed by these billing companies:



Another thing, why do all the girls sit in small dirty boxes and look extremely bored? Hope they are not being kept in those boxes against their will.

Mr big pimp, perhaps you should go and wake up your girls so your website doesn't continue violating BRAM rules.

Have a nice day

Originally Posted by HollywoodRevenue

Advice: do not do biz with any company michael o is affiliated with in past present or future. .

Originally Posted by Zyber

Honestly? Payments ontime every time?

Btw, at this very moment there are 19 different girls sleeping in their cages on lagcam's other website VeryHotCams.com

Want screenshots?

Originally Posted by Zyber

Funny how obsessed lagcam is with ShowMe69's account being terminated for BRAM violations because the word sleep existed in 2 of the text descriptions.

Here is the real reason ShowMe69's account was terminated
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20283879&postcount=138


Yesterday I went to a website called http://www.liveasiangirlcams.com/index.jsp and had a look. On this cam website I clicked on one of the preview boxes that said "Free Chat". What I was saw was a live video stream of an Asian girl SLEEPING. Yes, a girl sleeping on webcam. This website with sleeping girls is processed by these billing companies:



Another thing, why do all the girls sit in small dirty boxes and look extremely bored? Hope they are not being kept in those boxes against their will.

Mr big pimp, perhaps you should go and wake up your girls so your website doesn't continue violating BRAM rules.

Have a nice day