Does anybody have Donny in the GFY Death Pool?

I have no clue what to think after reading all this . There has to be some truth hidden some where. I know there are innocent people in jail.

I must admit I am curious as to what really happens in a real prison on a daily basis. The only knowledge I have is from SOA.

Prison, I have no clue. Jail, I get stories every day. Twice in the past year, guys have gotten beat so bad...they've lost eyes. They just pop right out their heads, I guess. :1orglaugh

I have Brassmonkey.

Somebody should send this thread to the local reporter. Donny's letters are newsworthy.

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someone should send him some "drop proof soap" instead.

Most of the reason I think many of us here think Donny is guilty as charged is actually based on very circumstantial evidence that would not have any real bearing on his case. How he treated models as a pornographer does not count at all. It just makes those of us in this biz know we wouldn't work with him and think he is the sort that gives the industry exactly the stereotype of evil porn people that most here would never want to be associated with.

The thing that will convict him in court is those girls getting up and testifying.

However, if they are just as prone to lying and manipulating and whatever Donny paints them to be, then their stories might have too many contradictions and a jury may even think they are lying and Donny is innocent. I don't know if any of you remember what 13 to 16 year olds are capable of, or have kids to remind you, but that sort of drama is not unusual at all. The Salem Witch trials started with a twelve year old talking all sorts of hooey if I recall correctly.

MaDalton is right. We can all have our own opinions of guilt vs innocent but only the final judgement of the court is going to speak definitively on the subject.

Until then, we are all just taking part in a sort of sick and perverse entertainment. I know I am guilty of it. Getting the letters and sending Donny the GFY thread has added an element to this that is pure train wreck. I don't want to turn away from it. But I do feel like it makes me a bit of an a-hole for doing so.

Donny mentioned that they might send back any items that had porn, I didn't get a single thing back, I wonder how many people read the mail I sent him and I wonder if they got off on it. I would think even to someone not familiar that this thread is funny.

Images below of just a fraction of what I sent. When I talked to the jailers they specified they only accepted envelopes and no packages of any kind or they'd send them back. Manila Envelopes will work, wasn't aware, would have saved me $20 and about an hour of work.

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Yours has often been the lone bastion of sound reasoning in several of these 'train wreck' threads. Nice to see it here as well. Thank you.

Thanks, much appreciated, although I have to laugh at myself because now I realize just how much of an ambulance chaser I have been lately. :Oh crap

The alleged victim?s boyfriend recorded a conversation between himself and Lewis McElfresh about the alleged molestation, according to a declaration in support of bail enhancement.

The recording was transferred to Sutter County Sheriff J. Paul Parker, who then transferred it to Yuba City police. The author of the declaration says he recognized the male voice in the recording to be McElfresh.

In the recording, the boy confronts McElfresh about sitting and watching a grown man violate the girl.

?I know,? McElfresh is alleged to have said.

The boy says McElfresh sat on the couch and masturbated.

?McElfresh replied, ?You?re right. I have a problem. You?re absolutely correct, and I have to get it fixed,'? the document says.

This is more than a 'he said she said' case. There's an eyewitness, the sheriff's captain father of the girl, who admits on a recording to watching his daughter get fucked by a grown man and masturbated.

Donny says the father asked him to fuck the daughter and he said no. The father knows who the grown man is, he'll be asked that question in court. The reporter doesn't say that Donny is identified as the grown man on the tape. But no other grown male has been charged with having sex with the girl. The cops would have asked the girl what grown man she had sex with in front of her father.

I think you are downplaying the facts. While we might be judging Donny by his past conduct, the truth is there is no evidence he did anything illegal when he worked in porn. However, this isn't "one or two girls making up stories" - This seems to be eight girls, most of whom do not know each other, all telling very similar stories. There also seems to be a recording of Donny discussing this with someone, photo evidence, and physical evidence.

Also, keep in mind this is the first case; Additional charges are being filed in another court in another county.

That's just fucking stunning.

And just think about this - this is just the tip of the iceberg. Can you imagine in today's digital age what evidence there must be? Every text message, every email, every phone call, every search he ever did.... Every purchase he ever mde.

Wow.

Free Donny!!!!

I think this is a bad idea on many different levels. Anything Donny writes and you post here can be used as evidence - If Donny says one thing on the stand and it doesn't match up to what he wrote in those letters you posted, that's a big oops.

Bad bad idea for him. Not for us. :1orglaugh

Not really. Every time I read those lines it was "alleged" so not sure those are facts yet or still hearsay. I haven't heard the actual tapes myself.

while I do agree in theory there is one small discrepancy for me: WTF is he doing running around with a bunch of 13-16 years old girls? and how many 'friends' do you have that would ask you over to fuck their kid while you watch?

I completely agree but once again that is circumstantial and the other part is still "alleged" until the tapes are playing in court and become part of the record.

What if that recording was spliced to make it seem like that is what he said and not the entire record of what actually was said in that phone conversation? That is why tapes involving lack of consent to being recorded make such shaky and typically inadmissible evidence.

In my opinion, all of it is true. They are all guilty. They all sound like a bunch of bible thumping sociopaths, Donny, the girls, Donny's mom, the sheriff, the Mormon judge, all of them. Donny does keep adapting his story and the more he does that the more guilty I feel he is, but once again, that is just my opinion based on a feeling.



Only God knows the truth... of course, not sure if that would be their God, my God, the Hebrew one that cannot be named, the Pope's God, the wiccan Goddess, Allah, or that Hindu Vishnu dude, or any of the other candidates for Godliness.

Goddammit! Let the truth be told once and for all!

I do believe that if Donny walks on this it will be much worse next time... and to be honest I wouldn't mind if none of it was true because it's all so creepy

I am under the impression that the reporter and the DA are both aware aware of GFY and this thread. I have never spoken to them or anyone else connected to the case, but others have.

Wouldn't even need one of those giant Sherlock Holmes style magnifying glasses to find the clues that lead here... :winkwink:

I have always heard that you put 2 drug addicts in a room that they are gonna find each other. I wonder how these 2 met, allegedly met.

No one has ever said "he is 100% guilty of the crimes he's charged with". That is always for a court to decide.

Most here are rightfully suspicious of him, due to his current behavior, his past behavior, his track record as well as other interesting facts like the creepy videos that exist of him frolicking around with these girls 1/2 naked and giggling like a little school girl as she tries to wax his chest.

The point being, that when you take everything in its totality and THEN see him charged with these particular crimes (a completely different incident than the FIRST such reports), with a minor - with 8 more minors coming forward, some aren't surprised at all as its all 100% consistent with his predatory and troubling behavior over the years.

I understand you and MaDalton saying "hey, lets hear all the facts first"... but for many, there are a lot of known facts. There are years and years and years of witnessing his disturbing behavior right here on this very forum. Years and years of watching him lie in public speaking engagements for no other purpose than his own personal gain. There is the simple fact that he faked being "saved by Jesus" to launch a career as a public speaker about how porn hurts people - targeting church groups and religious people as part of his "evil plan" as he put it and the fact that he openly stated his intent on this forum to do exactly that... 6 months before he then actually did it.

Being cautious and fair is one thing... but some acting as if just because Jeffrey Dahmer didn't have his day in court, that they'd happily let him babysit their children while he awaits trial - using the logic that "he has not being proven guilty in a court of law" is also a bit naive... after knowing he had human body parts in his fridge, he was eating his victims, there are eye witness accounts, that one witness escaped his attempt to murder him and so on. If you knew him and knew much of anything about him, you'd likely be thinking "uhm... yeah, this makes a lot of sense". Similarly, there are also plenty of known facts here as well concerning Donny in addition to the accusations and charges.

If Donny is found guilty he's probably not got long to live: Why Are So Many Sex Offenders Getting Murdered in California's Prisons? | VICE | United States

Buh-bye, Donny.

Based on what I know of Donny from his porn past on GFY, I know I would never have let him within a mile of my kids.

I didn't know Dahmer but based on the shit that the neighbors saw there I bet most parents kept their kids away from him in that neighborhood too. His victims were not kids from the neighborhood but pick ups mostly.

The thing is though... when Dahmer was caught, they found irrefutable evidence and literally in the process of trying to kill. With the Donny thing, so far, it is all "alleged". Yes, that dancing and waxing stuff made me insanely uncomfortable and I did get a strong feeling there was more to it. At the very least, I saw it as the type of behavior that typically leads to child abuse, no doubt about that.

I just will wait for all the evidence to be presented at trial, as public record, to say "guilty" and not "suspicious as fuck". I want to say guilty but I can wait for the trial. Until then, I am just going to keep watching the train coming off the tracks.

That is not being naive btw. That is just being circumspect.

lets hope he's not cooking and eating the girls

You had to have known that that wasn't gone for good.

I understand. As i've said, no one here has said "he did it" or "he's guilty". Mainly people are saying "he's a douchebag" and "he's a liar" and "this is not a surprise" etc etc etc. My point was that of course the court has the final word in proving guilt. My intention was more to address MaDaltons point which appeared you were supporting which is more like "everything is 100% fine and normal and all is ok and perfectly well until a court says otherwise"... as if it's not fair to even have an opinion. I think its more than fair. Having an opinion is just that.. an opinion. My opinion is that the charges are 100% consistent with who and what I've always said he is. A deeply disturbed and manipulative predator. Guilty of the charges against him? It wouldn't come as a huge shock. We'll know soon enough.

When you try to delete an account and then even so much as accidentally login to it by mistake, it reactivates it and makes it live again. Trying to leave facebook is like trying to leave the mafia.

You are correct.

That is hilarious since you don't know what the facts are.

all I have said is that it is possible that his version of the story could be true and that no one on here knows the truth.

stop putting bullshit in my mouth

This is the point.... There is no "his version" ... there is one abbreviated explanation he gave in an interview regarding his arrest, which does absolutely nothing to address all of the charges he was charged with and there is a new version he told which again, does nothing to address the charges he was charged with.

Further, there are additional charges now from 8 more kids.

There is no "his version" that "might be true" which explains even a fraction of what he's being charged with. It's not like this is a simple case of mistaken identity and he has a plausible story and alibi, so cautious optimism is prudent.

Also, no one is saying they "know the truth". No one is saying "he is 100% guilty" of everything he's being charged with. He's a piece of shit. Thats a fair assessment based on his behavior and character.


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in all seriousness the chance that Donny tells any truth is very very VERY slim.... here, work it out yourself....

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I seriously don't get that MaDalton is saying Donny is A-Ok by any stretch. Everyone here agrees that Donny would not be in jail if there weren't serious evidence in front of the court for slapping him behind bars and setting a high bail amount to keep him there until trial.

I am pretty sure he wouldn't let his kids near the guy either if it came down to it.

Am I losing something in translation?

free donny.

Why don't you start a collection for his legal expense? He already found someone to take his dogs so that is no longer an issue.

I've never seen him post Donny was "A-OK" I have seen him post he won't speculate on what actually happened until all the facts are brought out by the court.




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Oh... In that case...

BURN THE WITCH!!!

How fucking dare he say something that freaking reasonable on GFY... the nerve I tell ya...

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On the other hand I've already made my mind up :1orglaugh

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thank you

thank you


and yeah, i don't know why i keep doing that :helpme

So you finally decided to hire Donny to babysit? His mom might be available if she is not posting on GFY or Facebook or praying...

who sent thread to prosecutor office ? https://suttersheriff.org/forms/cont...ns %20Section

I only sent what I did to Donny.

I'll admit to a pleasure in perversion but I have no malice feelings toward Donny, like some in this thread I have a sickness that's getting me off on the unusual circumstances in this case and how Donny tends to not approach things how normal people would.

There's a few in here that are really getting off on this as well, post frequency and post length are strong indicators of this. :)

nah... you're not missing anything I'm just playing around with Ma... if we didn't put DP though the court system we might as well be the Ferguson crowd or ISIS... :2 cents:

Not to beat a dead horse here... but my response to Madalton was to his post suggesting that anyone with an opinion is a problem and that he was being pronounced guilty before a trial. Then he started taking shots at me (which i obviously deserve), but then feigned being offended at me for saying almost the same exactly thing back to him in a response as he said to me.

Anyway, carry on. No one thinks anyone is guilty or innocent. Everyone is entitled to an opinion about Donny... or the charges and the facts as they've been presented thus far as well as Donny's rambling psychopathic reply which will also be evidence against him. Even a jury's decision is nothing but 12 opinions.

Well put. :thumbsup