Jesus will save Donny.

I hope so, because I doubt his public defender will be able to.

Why the sudden change in demeanor? You were calling for his head at the start of this thread and then i noticed recently you are less pitch forky.

To be clear, I do not care at all about this person.
My personal opinion doesn't matter in a court of law. I certainly would never let him or anyone who feels the need to pretend they speak to invisible sky warriors around my children.

I don't know anything about this Donny guy other than what's been posted in this thread.

How is his case an important case? From what I've read here so far he seems like a sketchy backbiter who does whatever suits him to get what he wants.

he was a grown man living with a troubled underage girl right?

I think a lot of us feel sympathy because we wouldn't want to be in his shoes being as porn is sugh a marked industry to be a part of. on the other hand it seems like he made some very very obvious poor choices that most of us here would never consider making.

I'm thinking jesus saved us by having the creep locked up :2 cents:

Just when you think this can't get any worse.... It seems Donny sent a seven page letter to one of the girls.... And his bail was set at $1 Million.


New article:

Donny Pauling Jr. ? the pornographer turned pastor accused of having sex with underage girls ? attempted to indirectly coerce an alleged victim into not testifying, a Sutter County prosecutor said Friday.

Evidence was discussed during a Sutter County Superior Court hearing to set a bail amount for Pauling in three separate sex-related cases.

Judge Brian Aronson said Pauling is "not understanding boundaries very well," and set total bail at $1,025,000.

Defense attorney Roberto Marquez said he and Pauling have a right to call the alleged victims liars. Aronson agreed Marquez has that right, and the motivation to do so is clear. But the judge questioned Pauling's motivation for sending a letter from jail to a teenage friend of one of the victims.

Deputy District Attorney Anu Chopra said she received a copy of the seven-page letter written by Pauling that described how the alleged victim could "make this all go away" by invoking Marsy's law, which, in part, protects victims from being penalized by the courts for refusing to testify.

He also wrote the alleged victim wouldn't have to admit she was lying, according to Chopra.

"I don't think Pauling has let go of his belief that he can intimidate his way out of these cases," Aronson said.

Marquez has said he believes all three of the alleged victims are lying.
"My experience shows, as a defense attorney and a prosecutor, that teen girls are willing and able to fabricate allegations. They make horrible witnesses because they are not smart enough to present their lies as truth," Marquez said.

District Attorney Amanda Hopper responded, "Sexual assault cases by their very sensitive and traumatic nature are examined very closely before any filing decisions are made. That includes looking at the veracity of any witness or victims as well as finding corroboration for their statements. My office has not taken this case or the filing decision lightly."

Marquez said Pauling had no inappropriate sexual relationship with any of the alleged victims.

"I believe once these alleged victims come to testify, I don't believe their allegations are going to be substantiated," Marquez said.

Pauling is scheduled to return to court from Colusa County Jail to set a jury trial on June 8.

link: Prosecutor: Pauling tried to coerce alleged victim; $1 million bail in 3 Sutter County sex cases - Appeal-Democrat: News

Doesn't Donny understand that this will be evidence against him in court?

Going to wait for baddog to reassure everyone that its probably just a misunderstanding before commenting.

I sure hope the girls aren't lying so that bag of Jesus tainted filth go away for a long long time.

However we must all keep an open mind to the very slight possibility that they might be lying.

It's going to be verrrry interesting when they take the stand (they will have to testify right?) Teen girls aren't too good lying under oath so the truth should be plain as day.

My money is on the girls and Donny going bye bye.

If he is guilty hes going to have to learn to take it as hard as he dished it out.

This sounds like a good plan.

He sent one of the girls a seven page letter saying she "wouldn't have to admit she was lying" if she told the court what Donny wants her to say. WTF?

lol is that one of the webmasters here?

Well... He was.

Yeah wow he won't be back for a while, serves him right tho if he did it.

Typical Donny, he has a lawyer, albeit probably a shitty one, but Donny of course knows more than him and everybody else.

The lawyer is correct here, the best and only chance Donny has of walking free is getting those girls on the witness stand and showing them to be less than credible - and that wouldn't be hard for any decent criminal attorney IF the girls have told the police some lies or stretched the truth. Donny's brilliant strategy is to have them refuse to testify. Which makes me think that he knows their stories are close to the truth of what went down.

If it was just Donny's word against these two girls then this would be a pretty good case for a good criminal attorney - beyond a reasonable doubt is a heavy burden for the prosecution.

BUT there's this McElfresh guy who's also been charged, who allegedly watched Donny fuck his own daughter.

Even if these girls are manipulative little sluts who got mad at Donny and concocted these stories we all know something sordid and creepy was going on with these two slimeballs and these girls.

The court of public opinion has gotten things very wrong before - it's possible (however remote) that the girls got pissed off, didn't want him around, or for whatever reason falsely accused him of rape. Maybe he is just a very forgiving soul and sent the letter to the girls to let them know that they won't get in trouble for backing out of their lies.

Underage girls have definitely been known to wield the power of false sex abuse allegations before - it's happened to MANY MANY step-dads in the past just because girls wanted to get them out of the picture.

Just playing devils advocate here (not that the Devil would advocate for this Jesus-Freak) I'm not at all Pro-Donny, just pro-fair in the justice system.

He's been sitting in jail while we all laugh at him for 6 months now. :1orglaugh

gfy isn't the justice system. fyi.

It isn't? Oh shit I've been wrong all along

no biggie.

If he did the crime he ought to just man up and admit it. It's even more despicable to call the victims liars and to harass them in an effort to save his own skin.

Have you not read the thread? How do you explain the boyfriend? How do you explain unconnected victims?

So it looks to you as if I'm defending him or saying he's innocent?

He seems like a dumb pedo slime to me - I was only saying that there is a remote chance they are lying.

And no I couldnt read it all (28 pages!) - what about the boyfriend and unconnected victims - I missed that part.

This is so incredibly bad I couldn't stop watching it for a least a solid minute. I thought it must be a parody but it's not. "Which seat can I take?" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I understand it's made for 12 years olds but are 12 year olds in this country really that retarded?

No. He sent the letter to a friend of one of the girls.

you have a valid point. I have done business with Donny so I doubt very seriously he is 'innocent', at the very least he has been totally inappropriate... also bear in mind there are no underage girls in porn but the church..... well that's a different story for sure :2 cents:

guys that fuck kids and then threaten them are not going to 'man up' on anything... :2 cents:

This is not "two friends who made up stories to get Donny in trouble". Claims were made and dismissed due to lack of evidence. Then during a completely different investigation in a different county, unrelated to Donny, unrelated to the original girls, new claims and new evidence came to light. They were investigating a local Sheriff when it was exposed that this Sheriff watched Donny engage in sex acts with an under aged girl. That's when a full investigation was launched, Donny was arrested, and THEN they went back to the original victims and started to investigate them and decided to there was enough evidence to file yet more charges.

Without seeing that evidence, the only thing we all know for a fact is what Donny admitted himself to the reporter that interviewed him right after he was busted.

In the context of that alone I think Donny is pretty screwed without having to prove anything else, but that is just my layman's opinion.

I resent the updated portion of the thread to Donny, this time using properly sized paper about 10 days ago; I also resent using tedious white envelopes that way they are partitioned. If he does reply I'll hear it before Friday most likely.

He has up to post #1357

I don't think he can help it. Being in jail and bored out of your mind just makes it worse.

Weird so you are sending this thread as letters to Donny in Jail?

So this means that Donny will read what I am typing at this very moment?

OK then look, Donny boy I'm one of the few in this thread that has said there is a chance that these girls are lying and that you are innocent (I feel like the odds are 99-1 that you are guilty but hey I'm saying there is a chance) SO you can trust that I have no ill will against you when I advise you to:

SHUT THE FUCK UP - DON'T WRITE ANY LETTERS OR TALK TO THE MEDIA OR ANYONE!!! Talk only to your counsel and follow their advice - even the worst turd of a public defender must be way smarter than you so do what they say OK.

Also you should do 1000 situps a day and 1000 push ups, you will need some toughness to survive in there. Start a fight or something, you may get fucked up but in doing so earn some respect. Good luck to you I truly feel bad for you even if you fucked those young girls.












Oh yea and there is no god and Jesus fucked hookers.

How about you read the thread, you quoted my post from a while with the music video. If not then start at page 22 of this thread.

Pure entertainment and fucking awesome in my book.

Without a doubt! :thumbsup

Might just be the best advice ever.

why the fuck would any porner give that dumbfuckwad advice.

Hmm, I sent the thread a 2nd time and made damn sure there was no nudity. Rochard's topless pic of the girl feeding him I took a black marker and gave her a artistic one-piece.
Maybe ads that have pussycash or other words are what trigger it. He goes into detail in this letter. This also means he hasn't read all the twisted analysis after the original letter.

Donny does make a good point about how the press and prosecution could really care less about the absolute truth and only care about a conviction; Granted he is a porner, well former, and that already gives you two strikes.


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Another interesting point is it sounds like he has a plea deal he could do 6 months and then be out.
I had a former friend that took that option when he was arrested for some kind of child endangerment after 2 years from the initial event. The kid got a broken arm and they took him to the ER. You should really dress nicely if that happens, shitty clothes and some tattoos will make people think your guilty.

Looks like he might have a short sentence if he cops to a charge but of course all of his evangelical work would be finished, and he'd have some kind of sex offender record I'm sure of.

On the other hand if he gets charged and convicted... who knows. All this speculation is just mental masturbation. :)

Can someone like the squealer read his bullshit and paraphrase is pleas

Preferably in point form.

paraphrase of the "intimidation" letter:

1) Letter was a reply to a girl who wrote him
2) The recipient of letter was not "friendly" with victim for 3 years
3) Recipient of letter and her mother posted on Donny's facebook page saying they know the other girl is lying
4) Recipient of letter is 18 years old
5) Judge who set bail didn't read the letter, just took DA's word Donny was using intimidation in the letter
6) Article about threatening letter implies letter was reason for high bail. CV-1 bail set at 500K because girl claimed Donny was going to kill himself. CV-2 bail set at 500K because girl claimed Donny was going to hurt her boyfriend and CV-3 bail set at 25K because she said Donny did not threaten her or himself.

Correct me if I am wrong here. I understand why he claims he is innocent, however, at one point didn't Donny say that the officer asked him to have sex with his daughter while he watched and he turned him down and tried to "help" him and then later change his story and say that he was actually never asked?

It seems like his story changes every time he tells it.

A series of poor decision making all around :(

Everything Donny puts into print has the potential to find it's way to his trial.

Let's just say for the sake of conversation that everything in Donny's letter (in the above post) is true. It's still really REALLY dumb to be saying this stuff.

I've only consulted with a lawyer once in something I could have been accounted for criminally. He said to never ever talk about anything outside of the meeting I had with him, attorney client privilege, "STFU" he said.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Another home run Johnny! :thumbsup

Did you contact the reporter?

Point #4... she's a friend who is 18 now, which means he considered her a friend when she was a minor. What middle age guy has a bunch of 16 year old's as friends? What would he even have in common with them?

Doubly concerning considering the charges against him.

That would be really fucked up if that is the case.

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I don't know what the case is, but my former friend faced that or 10-15 years in prison. For most jobs your life is ruined once you get that sex offender registration (which would probably be mandatory with his deal). As long as he had internet access and limited restrictions on that you can always do something online.

Donny is somewhat delusional and overwhelmingly narcissistic, but he is smart.

Any guy hanging out with young girls wants to fuck them. Who hangs out with pretty young girls because they're stimulating conversationalists? Nobody. I've been tempted several times to just outright say to certain people that they aren't doing it because they think the girls are interesting or for good will.

If you're into 16 yos fine, but don't go masquerading in God's word or as a softball coach, that's the part that pisses me off!

Some men will go to extremes. One of my toastmaster groups has retired professionals and one guy is into ballroom dancing and likes the graduate students. I guess he really started liking this black girl in Africa that was 17. He paid thousands of dollars to have her fly here and drove his car down to Texas to pick her up. She was extremely hostile with him because all his ultimate goal was to have sex with her. What makes it so creepy is he is over 60.
I guess he conspired in his sister that he really wanted to sleep with her... So much for that and trying to woo her, throwing a birthday party she failed to show up. Turns out she was relatively nice, her behavior was just a method to keep the old man off of her.

I should. Free Donny!!! :1orglaugh