The prosecution (and cops) frequently pile on charges (overcharge); of course you are going to want to pare the list down before court. I would also guess that they are not admitting guilt but rather pointing out that on the day of the alleged event she was 14.

What about 2 and 17?

I surely wan't mature at age 25, yet ironically our government thought it was wise to hand me a machine gun. Go figure.

Eighteen is the age we legally accept someone as an adult. In some states the age of consent is even less.

Wow, here is a sad story. One of the girls Donnie was involved with had parents who were meth addicts, and their children were taken away from them. Deputy Mc Elfresh was involved in the removing of the daughter. Eventually Deputy Mc Elfresh adapted the girl and then this lead up to him eventually being arrested with Donnie.

eTerritorial Dispatch | eTerritorial Dispatch - Lewis Mc Elfresh and the Adoption (published 7/1/15)

That's some pretty sad stuff.

He looks so innocent...

If only he was a celebrity, he'd have half this board blaming the girls based on his on-screen characters and public image.

The article suggests a conspiracy between the Judge, CPS, and the Sheriff... that is just getting nuttier and nuttier... I would say it must be something in the water but there is no water in Cali any more...

Is it the same guy?

Who is this guy?

Porn is evil
but what about pedophilia?
That's cool
what about 2 gay guys that love each other and want to have sex?
YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT OR SUPPORT THEIR RIGHTS!
are religious people more moral?
Only if they're christian
why is God so 'good'?
PRAISE BE TO JESUS!

From: appeal-democrat.com/news/

12 or 13 :eyecrazy:eek2

The alleged masturbating Elf is out on bail!

Bail reduced for former jail commander in sex case - News - Appeal-Democrat

Seems his bail was reduced because he is "no longer a threat".

But even if they were to reduce Donnie's bail I don't believe Donnie can make it. He doesn't even own a house, and his parents cannot help either.

I am sure he's already got help from a few GFY'ers

Some new info on Donnie today.... Seems all cases will be combined. Seems there are three minors involved.

Public Safety Briefs: Pauling cases consolidated - Appeal-Democrat: News

.........

Can his past career/business recruiting and shooting girls for porn be brought in as evidence?

He's fucked, if he had a top flight attorney who could destroy these witnesses credibility maybe he'd have a chance but I still think any jury is going to convict him, a 40 year old man way too involved in the lives of young teenage girls = where there's smoke there's fire. It won't matter if the girls appear to have given conflicting stories at various times, the jury will be on their side.

Are the case files online in a county legal database available to the public?

Sutter County Criminal Court - CA - CountyCriminal.com $9.95 fee - I've followed cases involving industry people in other states/counties and all the proceedings/documents have been available online.

Seems to like this was a track record... There was a few cases in the past where he was accused and even arrested, but it seemed like the charges were dropped. When the new charges came up someone looked at his prior record and most likely said "where there is smoke there is fire, and there seems to be a lot of smoke".

This guy is such a fucking idiot it's incredible :1orglaugh

Wasn't he living with the girl that posted here when all this went down?

Who was that again? I remember at the time there was like some 4 way going on with Donny, the girlfriend, a webmaster that was cheating with her behind Donny's back, and his wife found out about it via GFY?

I believe Donny used to mention this girl in his posts that she lived with him or something?

Anyone testifying from here? This is the most bizarre story. Donny should write a book if he has the time.

She dumped him and he made a spectacle of it here on GFY.

EPIC spectacle. Biggest meltdown in GFY history.

Can we do a Kickstarter to send XXX Jay to live Tweet the trial?

Not as evidence since it is purely circumstantial. It might be brought in but even a crappy attorney would object to it being circumstantial and not relevant. Also, considering that he participated in the legit, age verified, adult industry it could play against the prosecution since it demonstrates that he was concerned about legal age limits.

I of course am not an attorney but I do know enough to offer at least a semi educated opinion.

On Christmas or close too, no less.

I was on vacation in Disney World had was refreshing the thread any chance I could get.

Oh Snap...... Donny just fired his attorney.

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Donny Pauling dismissed his defense attorney less than two weeks before he is scheduled to go on trial on sex charges.

Roberto Marquez filed a motion in Sutter County Superior Court on Thursday requesting he be relieved as attorney of record for Pauling. The motion is scheduled to be heard today.

The jury trial is scheduled to begin Sept. 29.
In a declaration, Marquez said he met with Pauling, accused of having unlawful sex with three minor girls, in jail earlier this week.

Pauling "informed me that he no longer desired my services and that he was discharging me from representing him in his cases in the Sutter Superior Court," Marquez said in the court filing.

Marquez wrote, "There has been an irreparable breakdown in the attorney-client relationship, making it impossible to render effective assistance to Mr. Pauling," the declaration said.

Marquez said he could not comment.

In the motion, Marquez said the attorney may be changed at any time, upon the application of either client or attorney.

Donny Pauling dismisses his attorney - Appeal-Democrat: News

I wonder if there was a discussion about the letters Donny has sent out. Should be interesting to see how this goes. Will Donny represent himself?

Is it all just one big conspiracy?!

A few people have said already that he will likely represent himself and why they think this. Right here in this thread. This isn't at all surprising.

I think Donny is in the fight of his life right now. This goes one of two ways - He either gets off and tries to pick up the pieces of his life, or he goes to prison and eventually registers as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

I think firing his attorney shortly before his trial is the worst possible thing he can do.

I am guessing this is a court appointed attorney. I can imagine a court appointed attorney is not going to be the best "money could buy". But I don't think he'll get a better attorney, and surely this cannot hurt his case.

The only logic I can see for firing his attorney two weeks before trial is to get a delay in the trial. He gets a new attorney, who needs time to review his case and prepare his defense, and that can't truly get done in less than two weeks. So, essentially, he's just buying himself time.

he fired his attorney because he's a self-destructive child molester.

I'm sure that's the angle, but it's pretty obvious that's what he's doing so he'll only get to do it once. He's not buying himself much time, but I guess at this point...something is better than nothing.

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I'm gonna go with fucking 12/13 year old girls as one of the worst possible things he could do, then running his mouth with his brain engaged as number 2... because Donny is fundamentally stupid :2 cents:

:thumbsup:1orglaugh

I haven't followed this thread since the first 11 pages other then reading the current page when I'm really bored.. BUT wow page 30 is still entertaining! Yes this guy should defend himself cause he looks so innocent.. :1orglaugh

:2 cents:

People like him don't deal well in reality. Te most likely scenario is that when it gets closer to trial his attorney is telling him how fucked he is, to take the deal, telling him he's going to do time and because he's not hearing what he wants to hear, he fires the messenger. He can only think in terms of what he wants, not what is. Pretty typical of a sociopath. As he rots after a conviction, his story will always be that his attorney fucked him, everyone lied, nothing was fair etc.

Love a good hypocrite...

Another article showed up this morning.....

Donny Pauling began representing himself in court Friday.

Pauling has pleaded not guilty to 19 criminal charges involving unlawful sex acts with three teen girls. If convicted, he faces up to 20 years in prison.

Sutter County Superior Court Judge Susan E. Green relieved Roberto Marquez as Pauling's defense attorney and appointed Pauling to represent himself in response to a motion filed by Marquez on Thursday.

She did so after she expressed concerns about Pauling's decision to dismiss Marquez, given the seriousness of the charges and the proximity to the Sept. 29 jury trial.

A former Chico-based pornography producer, Pauling, 41, had said he found God and traveled to churches around the country as an anti-pornography activist. He lived in Yuba City when he was arrested Dec. 1 on suspicion of on-going sexual acts with a teen girl. Investigation led to two additional alleged victims and charges, including an act of unlawful sex with a girl while former Sutter County sheriff's Lt. Lewis McElfresh allegedly watched while masturbating.

Marquez, who has represented Pauling since January, will hand over his trial preparation binders to Pauling. And Investigators in the case can now talk to Pauling directly, Green said.

"I've wanted that from the beginning," Pauling said. "I believe if I tell the truth, the truth will come out."
In his first action on his own behalf, Pauling made a motion to continue the trial. Deputy District Attorney Anu Chopra objected. Green told Pauling he has to file a written motion to be heard on the matter.

Pauling also requested to be appointed co-counsel.

He is scheduled to return to court Sept. 24 to argue motions about what trial evidence.

Pauling has an Associate's Degree from DeVry University in computer science. If not for his arrest, he said, he would also have degrees in philosophy and psychology.

"I have some concerns that your defendant is not making a good decision in firing you," Green said to Marquez before she granted the motion.

"At this point, I think things are broken down enough that there needs to be a change," Pauling told Green.
"It's an irreconcilable breakdown," Marquez said.

Pauling said he didn't learn there was a Friday court date until he read a newspaper story. He had requested a hearing to be scheduled Monday because "I said I might fire you," Pauling said.

During the hearing, Green closed the courtroom to allow for a candid conversation with Pauling and Marquez. She had told Pauling to stop talking in public court because, she was concerned about him presenting confidential information that may harm him.

By taking over the role as his own representative, Pauling gave up his right to appeal any conviction on the basis of poor representation. Green told him he will get no special treatment, and she expects him to make appropriate objections.

If he misbehaves, he will lose his right to represent himself; If he misbehaves in jail, he could lose time in the law library, Green said.

I honestly cannot believe this - Donnie is going to represent himself. I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't know the first thing about trails... I couldn't imagine trying to be my own attorney.

I won't be shocked to later hear that his lawyer was encouraging him to take a deal that may have been offered him or pursue a deal and he refused then decided that this lawyer didn't have his best interesting in mind.

That and he might be trying to delay things as other people suggested. I won't be shocked if the court doesn't allow him another delay.

It's part of a downward spiral. It's interesting to watch.

I called it. He's a self destructive pedo. Worse, he wants to take everyone down with him. He's got the mentality of a spree shooter.

That's always the case - they blame it all on everyone else.

Here is what I don't understand. He had a girl (or girls) living with him that he was not related to. He was arrested on suspicion of molesting these girls before in the past. Let's just assume he was innocent... Wouldn't he want to put as much distance between him and these girls or any other girls just so it never even came up again?

He's suffering from one or more serious personality disorders.... there is nothing to "understand". Broken people are broken and they behave accordingly:

The odds that Donny is just the victim of terrible luck with these girls are astronomical, when you factor in his past behavior and circumstances the odds become non-existent.

Normal middle aged men simply don't insinuate themselves into the lives of 13 and 14 year old girls, sexual predators do, all the time.

can someone give me a summary? who is Donny and why is he arrested?