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johnnyloadproductions 09-18-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20583542)
Oh Snap...... Donny just fired his attorney.

I wonder if there was a discussion about the letters Donny has sent out. Should be interesting to see how this goes. Will Donny represent himself?

Is it all just one big conspiracy?!

candyflip 09-18-2015 04:09 PM

A few people have said already that he will likely represent himself and why they think this. Right here in this thread. This isn't at all surprising.

Rochard 09-18-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20583547)
A few people have said already that he will likely represent himself and why they think this. Right here in this thread. This isn't at all surprising.

I think Donny is in the fight of his life right now. This goes one of two ways - He either gets off and tries to pick up the pieces of his life, or he goes to prison and eventually registers as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

I think firing his attorney shortly before his trial is the worst possible thing he can do.

I am guessing this is a court appointed attorney. I can imagine a court appointed attorney is not going to be the best "money could buy". But I don't think he'll get a better attorney, and surely this cannot hurt his case.

NaughtyVisions 09-18-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20583550)
I think Donny is in the fight of his life right now. This goes one of two ways - He either gets off and tries to pick up the pieces of his life, or he goes to prison and eventually registers as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

I think firing his attorney shortly before his trial is the worst possible thing he can do.

I am guessing this is a court appointed attorney. I can imagine a court appointed attorney is not going to be the best "money could buy". But I don't think he'll get a better attorney, and surely this cannot hurt his case.

The only logic I can see for firing his attorney two weeks before trial is to get a delay in the trial. He gets a new attorney, who needs time to review his case and prepare his defense, and that can't truly get done in less than two weeks. So, essentially, he's just buying himself time.

dyna mo 09-18-2015 04:42 PM

he fired his attorney because he's a self-destructive child molester.

candyflip 09-18-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 20583559)
The only logic I can see for firing his attorney two weeks before trial is to get a delay in the trial. He gets a new attorney, who needs time to review his case and prepare his defense, and that can't truly get done in less than two weeks. So, essentially, he's just buying himself time.

I'm sure that's the angle, but it's pretty obvious that's what he's doing so he'll only get to do it once. He's not buying himself much time, but I guess at this point...something is better than nothing.

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Grapesoda 09-18-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20583550)

I think firing his attorney shortly before his trial is the worst possible thing he can do.

I'm gonna go with fucking 12/13 year old girls as one of the worst possible things he could do, then running his mouth with his brain engaged as number 2... because Donny is fundamentally stupid :2 cents:

SBJ 09-18-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Gold (Post 20579489)
Can we do a Kickstarter to send XXX Jay to live Tweet the trial?

:thumbsup:1orglaugh

I haven't followed this thread since the first 11 pages other then reading the current page when I'm really bored.. BUT wow page 30 is still entertaining! Yes this guy should defend himself cause he looks so innocent.. :1orglaugh

j3rkules 09-18-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20583564)
he fired his attorney because he's a self-destructive child molester.

:2 cents:

TheSquealer 09-19-2015 10:27 AM

People like him don't deal well in reality. Te most likely scenario is that when it gets closer to trial his attorney is telling him how fucked he is, to take the deal, telling him he's going to do time and because he's not hearing what he wants to hear, he fires the messenger. He can only think in terms of what he wants, not what is. Pretty typical of a sociopath. As he rots after a conviction, his story will always be that his attorney fucked him, everyone lied, nothing was fair etc.

j3rkules 09-19-2015 10:32 AM

Love a good hypocrite...

Rochard 09-19-2015 12:11 PM

Another article showed up this morning.....

Donny Pauling began representing himself in court Friday.

Pauling has pleaded not guilty to 19 criminal charges involving unlawful sex acts with three teen girls. If convicted, he faces up to 20 years in prison.

Sutter County Superior Court Judge Susan E. Green relieved Roberto Marquez as Pauling's defense attorney and appointed Pauling to represent himself in response to a motion filed by Marquez on Thursday.

She did so after she expressed concerns about Pauling's decision to dismiss Marquez, given the seriousness of the charges and the proximity to the Sept. 29 jury trial.

A former Chico-based pornography producer, Pauling, 41, had said he found God and traveled to churches around the country as an anti-pornography activist. He lived in Yuba City when he was arrested Dec. 1 on suspicion of on-going sexual acts with a teen girl. Investigation led to two additional alleged victims and charges, including an act of unlawful sex with a girl while former Sutter County sheriff's Lt. Lewis McElfresh allegedly watched while masturbating.

Marquez, who has represented Pauling since January, will hand over his trial preparation binders to Pauling. And Investigators in the case can now talk to Pauling directly, Green said.

"I've wanted that from the beginning," Pauling said. "I believe if I tell the truth, the truth will come out."
In his first action on his own behalf, Pauling made a motion to continue the trial. Deputy District Attorney Anu Chopra objected. Green told Pauling he has to file a written motion to be heard on the matter.

Pauling also requested to be appointed co-counsel.

He is scheduled to return to court Sept. 24 to argue motions about what trial evidence.

Pauling has an Associate's Degree from DeVry University in computer science. If not for his arrest, he said, he would also have degrees in philosophy and psychology.

"I have some concerns that your defendant is not making a good decision in firing you," Green said to Marquez before she granted the motion.

"At this point, I think things are broken down enough that there needs to be a change," Pauling told Green.
"It's an irreconcilable breakdown," Marquez said.

Pauling said he didn't learn there was a Friday court date until he read a newspaper story. He had requested a hearing to be scheduled Monday because "I said I might fire you," Pauling said.

During the hearing, Green closed the courtroom to allow for a candid conversation with Pauling and Marquez. She had told Pauling to stop talking in public court because, she was concerned about him presenting confidential information that may harm him.

By taking over the role as his own representative, Pauling gave up his right to appeal any conviction on the basis of poor representation. Green told him he will get no special treatment, and she expects him to make appropriate objections.

If he misbehaves, he will lose his right to represent himself; If he misbehaves in jail, he could lose time in the law library, Green said.

Rochard 09-19-2015 12:13 PM

I honestly cannot believe this - Donnie is going to represent himself. I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't know the first thing about trails... I couldn't imagine trying to be my own attorney.

kane 09-19-2015 12:14 PM

I won't be shocked to later hear that his lawyer was encouraging him to take a deal that may have been offered him or pursue a deal and he refused then decided that this lawyer didn't have his best interesting in mind.

That and he might be trying to delay things as other people suggested. I won't be shocked if the court doesn't allow him another delay.

Rochard 09-19-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20583582)
:thumbsup:1orglaugh

I haven't followed this thread since the first 11 pages other then reading the current page when I'm really bored.. BUT wow page 30 is still entertaining! Yes this guy should defend himself cause he looks so innocent.. :1orglaugh

It's part of a downward spiral. It's interesting to watch.

dyna mo 09-19-2015 12:16 PM

I called it. He's a self destructive pedo. Worse, he wants to take everyone down with him. He's got the mentality of a spree shooter.

Rochard 09-19-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20583913)
People like him don't deal well in reality. Te most likely scenario is that when it gets closer to trial his attorney is telling him how fucked he is, to take the deal, telling him he's going to do time and because he's not hearing what he wants to hear, he fires the messenger. He can only think in terms of what he wants, not what is. Pretty typical of a sociopath. As he rots after a conviction, his story will always be that his attorney fucked him, everyone lied, nothing was fair etc.

That's always the case - they blame it all on everyone else.

Here is what I don't understand. He had a girl (or girls) living with him that he was not related to. He was arrested on suspicion of molesting these girls before in the past. Let's just assume he was innocent... Wouldn't he want to put as much distance between him and these girls or any other girls just so it never even came up again?

TheSquealer 09-19-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20583997)
Here is what I don't understand. He had a girl (or girls) living with him that he was not related to. He was arrested on suspicion of molesting these girls before in the past. Let's just assume he was innocent... Wouldn't he want to put as much distance between him and these girls or any other girls just so it never even came up again?

He's suffering from one or more serious personality disorders.... there is nothing to "understand". Broken people are broken and they behave accordingly:

Mutt 09-19-2015 12:35 PM

The odds that Donny is just the victim of terrible luck with these girls are astronomical, when you factor in his past behavior and circumstances the odds become non-existent.

Normal middle aged men simply don't insinuate themselves into the lives of 13 and 14 year old girls, sexual predators do, all the time.

SIK 09-19-2015 01:03 PM

can someone give me a summary? who is Donny and why is he arrested?

Rochard 09-19-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SIK (Post 20584018)
can someone give me a summary? who is Donny and why is he arrested?

Donny was a photographer who operated out of Chico, California. Chico is a college down. Donny was known as "Mr. Tripod" because all he did was put a girl in front of a camera on a tripod and pose them without ever having moved the camera. At one point had a site called Donny's Girls or something.

Eventually he left adult, claimed to have found god, and then went around the country for XXX Church talking about the evils of pornography.

Then he was arrested for mulitple charges involving minors.

kane 09-19-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SIK (Post 20584018)
can someone give me a summary? who is Donny and why is he arrested?

To make a very long story much shorter Donny was a guy who worked in the porn biz. He left the biz when he said he found God and started making money giving speeches and making appearances as an anti-porn advocate. He was a fairly controversial guy when he was in the biz and continued to sometimes show up on GFY after he left it.

He was arrested for a few things. One of the charges (forgive me I am no lawyer so I'm not sure what the proper charges are I'm just describing what I know) is that he was having sex with a 12-13 year old girl who was living with him. Another charges was a friend of his who was prison corrections officers supposedly asked Donny to have sex with his daughter who was in that same age range while he watched and jerked off. The claim is that Donny did just that.

There are likely other lesser charges added on in relation to these things, but this is the jist of what he is in trouble for. Upon his arrest he was hit with (I think) a million dollar bail. He didn't have the money to make bond so he has been sitting in jail for several months while waiting to go to trail. At last his trial is happening in a just a few weeks and now he has fired his lawyer and appears to be representing himself.

JJ Gold 09-19-2015 02:40 PM

Somebody, or several of us, need to be there on the scene. Seeing this egomaniac represent himself will be the show of the century. I hope there is a 30 day delay so I can get to Sutter County.

Donny "has an Associate's Degree from DeVry University" yet he always thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

In the words of Sir Mix a Lot...."lawyers ate 'em up like catfish".

Far-L 09-19-2015 11:01 PM

The age old axiom is "A person that represents himself has a fool for a client".

He is going to dig his hole deeper than ever. Judges hate when people represent themselves.

johnnyloadproductions 09-19-2015 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Gold (Post 20584058)
Somebody, or several of us, need to be there on the scene. Seeing this egomaniac represent himself will be the show of the century. I hope there is a 30 day delay so I can get to Sutter County.

Donny "has an Associate's Degree from DeVry University" yet he always thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

There needs to be some kind of live recording.

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20584182)
The age old axiom is "A person that represents himself has a fool for a client".

He is going to dig his hole deeper than ever. Judges hate when people represent themselves.

To quote some scripture for Donny: "The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" - Ecclesiastes 6:11
He sure does like to talk it up, 12 single-spaced, handwritten pages. lol.

The only people that profit are those who enjoy all the entertainment.

I'm still getting off on the fact of the 400-ish pages printed off, that were mailed off, and they got to him.
People said he'd probably reply... ...and he did! :1orglaugh

The best part is I'm sure while he is up there giving his case/argument he'll be getting high off himself. Just watch the porn debate with Ron Jeremy and look at his expressions, he loves being the center of attention.

I can't help but feel that the prosecution has been unintentionally crowdfunded ammo to use in the case, possibly by reading this thread.

TCLGirls 09-20-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20583989)
I honestly cannot believe this - Donnie is going to represent himself. I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't know the first thing about trails... I couldn't imagine trying to be my own attorney.



Even licensed attorneys do not handle real criminal trials unless they've had experience alongside a lead attorney during law school (internships) and for a year or two after law school. So this Donny character just made it much much worse for himself.

j3rkules 09-20-2015 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20584054)
Donny was a photographer who operated out of Chico, California. Chico is a college down. Donny was known as "Mr. Tripod" because all he did was put a girl in front of a camera on a tripod and pose them without ever having moved the camera. At one point had a site called Donny's Girls or something.

Eventually he left adult, claimed to have found god, and then went around the country for XXX Church talking about the evils of pornography.

Then he was arrested for mulitple charges involving minors.

Religion 0 -1 Porn.

SIK 09-20-2015 06:06 AM

thanks Rochard and kane :)

Far-L 09-20-2015 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20584192)


Even licensed attorneys do not handle real criminal trials unless they've had experience alongside a lead attorney during law school (internships) and for a year or two after law school. So this Donny character just made it much much worse for himself.

True and, even then, experienced criminal trial attorneys with years of trial experience know not to represent themselves.

Donny is going to put himself away for a very very long time. :2 cents:

xenigo 09-21-2015 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20584758)
True and, even then, experienced criminal trial attorneys with years of trial experience know not to represent themselves.

Donny is going to put himself away for a very very long time. :2 cents:

And most police know not to talk to police. I find it hilarious when one thinks he can talk himself out of it. Charges... charges... and more charges... and more convictions...

xenigo 09-21-2015 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20545966)
I don't understand why they have differences for ages. If you are found guilty of molesting a child, it shouldn't matter if the child is three or thirteen.

I've done a bit of research regarding this topic, and my conclusion is that the law and conviction is based not on the age, but on the physical development of the minor. For instance, if the law seeks to convict you of pedophilia, they would not be required to prove to a jury that you were fucking a woman that appeared to be 35 but you neglected to check her ID, but that she had narrow hips, and under-developed breasts, and legitimately appeared to be underage. The distinction being an attraction to children, not physically developed minors.

Of course, you will still be convicted if you have sex with a 17 year and 364 day old, but the argument will not be that you were a pedophile.

Also... judges & juries tend to convict people based not on actions, but on intentions.

sonofsam 09-21-2015 01:58 AM

What I really want to know is, who in Donny's life had an idea about some of this stuff he's accused of doing before he was arrested

Phoenix 09-21-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20584806)
What I really want to know is, who in Donny's life had an idea about some of this stuff he's accused of doing before he was arrested

i think most of us thought this of him as soon as he went the church way.

creepy guy.

i could swear there talks like that in person and maybe even on here

marlboroack 09-21-2015 09:44 AM

Fucking sickos

johnnyloadproductions 09-21-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 20585118)
Fucking sickos

Fucking thieves :winkwink:

Rochard 09-21-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 20584787)
I've done a bit of research regarding this topic, and my conclusion is that the law and conviction is based not on the age, but on the physical development of the minor. For instance, if the law seeks to convict you of pedophilia, they would not be required to prove to a jury that you were fucking a woman that appeared to be 35 but you neglected to check her ID, but that she had narrow hips, and under-developed breasts, and legitimately appeared to be underage. The distinction being an attraction to children, not physically developed minors.

Of course, you will still be convicted if you have sex with a 17 year and 364 day old, but the argument will not be that you were a pedophile.

Also... judges & juries tend to convict people based not on actions, but on intentions.

If you fuck three thirteen year old girls, you are a pedophile, and go to prison for twenty years.

L-Pink 09-21-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20585165)
If you fuck three thirteen year old girls, you are a pedophile, and go to prison for twenty years.


Wait wait wait ... cumulative age doesn't count?

ManuteBol 09-21-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20585105)
i think most of us thought this of him as soon as he went the church way.

creepy guy.

i could swear there talks like that in person and maybe even on here

I think you're creepy.

escorpio 09-21-2015 03:23 PM

Representing yourself is what delusional people do.

Rochard 09-21-2015 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 20585426)
Representing yourself is what delusional people do.

Criminals always think they are smarter than everyone else.

I don't know about anyone else but I have never so much as seen a real trial in person - No way I would be able to defend myself in such a case.

If I understand correctly, the judge told Donnie there would be no way he could come back after the trial and say "lack of legal representation" - The risks were explained to him.


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