11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won't Tell You - GoFuckYourself.com

Horatio Caine · 12-04-2014, 03:06 PM

1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: "You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different," he told Newsmax. "He wouldn't be dead today.

"Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don't have the ability to say, 'Well, this is a minor arrest, so we're just going to ignore you.'"

2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: "Don't touch me!"

3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.

5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death.

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations.

Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused."

8. The grand jury began hearing the case on Sept. 29 and did not reach a decision until Wednesday, so there is much testimony that was presented that has not been made public.

9. The 23-member grand jury included nine non-white jurors.

10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a "substantial risk" that Garner would have died due to the takedown.

11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel.

11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won't Tell You

Rochard · 12-04-2014, 04:30 PM

There is another video I saw this morning about a white police officer "harassing" for "having their hands in their pockets". The video shows the officer asking questions and the man saying "You cannot arrest me for having my hands in my pockets". It looks bad.

But the full story is this man was pacing in front of a store and acting suspicious, and the store owner got nervous and called 911. The police wasn't harassing anyone - he was responding to a suspicious person call.

Somewhere along the line it became acceptable to not respect police officers. I am not sure where any of you grew up, but police officers are almighty - No one can fuck your life up as quickly as a police officer. They can wrestle you to the ground, put cuffs on you, throw you in the back of the car, and before you know you it you are bent over the jailhouse sink having your asshole widened by your new cell mate while screaming out "Mommy" at the top of your lungs.

I'm not saying police officers are saints or never wrong but they can turn your life upside instantly.

This man didn't die because of a choke hold. He died because after dozens of arrests he still didn't learn something as simple as "respect". That and his four hundred pounds killed him.

mineistaken · 12-04-2014, 04:37 PM

Another Saint African died in the hands of evil slave monger.

EddyTheDog · 12-04-2014, 04:42 PM

It's true that the choke hold may have contributed to his death - But no more than anything else that happened - The guy had a heart attack bought on by the stress of the situation that he can only blame himself for...

candyflip · 12-04-2014, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

There is another video I saw this morning about a white police officer "harassing" for "having their hands in their pockets". The video shows the officer asking questions and the man saying "You cannot arrest me for having my hands in my pockets". It looks bad.

But the full story is this man was pacing in front of a store and acting suspicious, and the store owner got nervous and called 911. The police wasn't harassing anyone - he was responding to a suspicious person call.

Somewhere along the line it became acceptable to not respect police officers. I am not sure where any of you grew up, but police officers are almighty - No one can fuck your life up as quickly as a police officer. They can wrestle you to the ground, put cuffs on you, throw you in the back of the car, and before you know you it you are bent over the jailhouse sink having your asshole widened by your new cell mate while screaming out "Mommy" at the top of your lungs.

I'm not saying police officers are saints or never wrong but they can turn your life upside instantly.

This man didn't die because of a choke hold. He died because after dozens of arrests he still didn't learn something as simple as "respect". That and his four hundred pounds killed him.

The man in that video was respectful of the officer and the officer was back. The both whipped out cameras and recorded the encounter. The guy said it was crazy and the cop said that it was just his job to respond to a call that was made, regardless of how crazy it was. That was a video of exactly how it should go down.

Socks · 12-04-2014, 05:27 PM

I feel like the cops could have explained to him that they're placing him under arrest, or that they just need to talk, and that he needs to put his hands behind his back so they can cuff him.

They just sort of grab at him, he flinches, then they sort of sneak up and pounce on him.

He wasn't running. He was talking to them.. Why not talk it out a bit more instead of trying to make an aggressive move at an obviously huge guy like that?

I've seen lots of great cops talk people down. People get upset, it's an unsettling situation.. Give a guy like this a minute to process his choices and calm down. There was no real dangerous element here.

Classic case of minor problem turning into many major problems because of bad decisions on both sides.

Rochard · 12-04-2014, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

The man in that video was respectful of the officer and the officer was back. The both whipped out cameras and recorded the encounter. The guy said it was crazy and the cop said that it was just his job to respond to a call that was made, regardless of how crazy it was. That was a video of exactly how it should go down.

It sure does seem silly that a store owner would feel "threatened" by someone walking around with their hands in their pockets, and it's entirely possible the store owner was the wrong in the wrong or had bad intent.

But it was the way the guy was talking. Any time a cop talks to you, you should say "yes sir" or "no sir". This guy was kind of combative although it ended well.

Here is the video:

Again, not all cops are good. But you be respectful, give them as little info as possible, and get away from them as soon as you can.

tony286 · 12-04-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

It sure does seem silly that a store owner would feel "threatened" by someone walking around with their hands in their pockets, and it's entirely possible the store owner was the wrong in the wrong or had bad intent.

But it was the way the guy was talking. Any time a cop talks to you, you should say "yes sir" or "no sir". This guy was kind of combative although it ended well.

Here is the video:

Again, not all cops are good. But you be respectful, give them as little info as possible, and get away from them as soon as you can.

Actually store owner later said that wasn't the guy he saw walking back and forth.so this guy did nothing wrong.

Tom_PM · 12-04-2014, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

It's true that the choke hold may have contributed to his death - But no more than anything else that happened - The guy had a heart attack bought on by the stress of the situation that he can only blame himself for...

There is no "may have" about it. The coroners report states that his death was due to compression of the neck and it was ruled a homicide. In addition to that, his chest was compressed with hundreds of pounds of cop on top of him. It's easy to find online so no guess work required. He was killed during his arrest. And that's that. Is that OK or not?

Plenty of people chime in about personal histories of the dead men and I want to know who gives a flying fuck? Can cops kill people they are trying to arrest or not is what we should ask our society. I say no they may not, and if they're so cock sure that it was accidental then they can tell that to a jury while they're on trial for causing the death. So far they take the more easy route of grand jury's which is certainly what I would want too. Absofuckinglutely.

So anyway, does being choked to death by cops make you feel stress? I would guess so if I had to guess. Should cops who know they are about to confront someone who is huge and might resist bring along.. oh I don't know.. several tasers? Yeah probably. Wouldn't look as cool though? Was that their reason? Did anyone ask?? Nope. Bad fat man deserved death and did everything to himself.

mozadek · 12-04-2014, 08:35 PM

Misleading article, I learned about 3, 4, 6, 9, 11 while watching liberal, mainstream news.

Rochard · 12-04-2014, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Plenty of people chime in about personal histories of the dead men and I want to know who gives a flying fuck? Can cops kill people they are trying to arrest or not is what we should ask our society.

No, they may not. But what is the flip side here - We shouldn't arrest anyone because we might hurt them?

This man died because he resisted arrest, plain and SIMPLE. He died because he was four hundred pounds and it took half a dozen police officers to put handcuffs on him.

baddog · 12-04-2014, 10:09 PM

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There is no "may have" about it. The coroners report states that his death was due to compression of the neck and it was ruled a homicide.

Here is the problem; you seem to think that means something special. The FACT of the matter is that there really was no question whether or not he died at the hands of another (which is what a homicide is), the question was, was it a crime since it was done in the course of a cop doing his job.

The grand jury, who saw a lot more evidence than you, deemed it wasn't.

Best-In-BC · 12-04-2014, 10:46 PM

#dipshitery

American Psycho · 12-04-2014, 11:43 PM

Another moron that was going to be arrested and got himself killed resisting.

Really , wtf is the argument for either of these cases?
all arguing that its wrong what the cops did are also saying that that jurors who voted not guilty for the policemen are also wrong and possibly racist or u just ignore the facts for your own agenda.

Wow this is a GIANT RACIST CONSPIRICY.. even black latin and chinie jurors are in on it with whitey in charge.

Welp I jus chalk this up with much of the bs under JUST CANT ARGUE WITH STUPIDITY.

HandballJim · 12-05-2014, 06:08 PM

are you sure about #6? I thought he was dead on the scene

The guy was still speaking while being in the hold, so he was not a choke hold. Bottom line don't disrespect the police, just do what they say. Put your hands out, make them comfortable, they have the power to take your life. Stand still and be calm and you'll live another day.

Horatio Caine · 12-05-2014, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

Bottom line don't disrespect the police, just do what they say. Put your hands out, make them comfortable, they have the power to take your life. Stand still and be calm and you'll live another day.

Way too much to ask for these morons. And than you have brassmonkeys who will argue this was over some cigs and because he was black. Same people go to court on DUI charge and say "but I was careful and never hurt anyone".

Rochard · 12-05-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

are you sure about #6? I thought he was dead on the scene

Seems to me he was "unresponsive" at the scene. He might have died on the way to the hospital, but it was the arrest that did it. You can blame this one choke hold all you want, but when six police officers wrestle a four hundred pound man in poor health already down to the ground... Well....

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

The guy was still speaking while being in the hold, so he was not a choke hold. Bottom line don't disrespect the police, just do what they say. Put your hands out, make them comfortable, they have the power to take your life. Stand still and be calm and you'll live another day.

I don't understand this either. No matter what you do what a police officer says. Always.

The media has a lot to do with this too. Micheal Brown might have been a teenager, but he was also a two hundred and eighty pound man - that's a far cry from what we consider a teenager. This shit that went down in Phoenix is the same thing - The headline reads "another unarmed black man shot and killed" and show a friendly looking man in a santa clause hat but fail to mention he was selling drugs and had a shotgun in the car.

You know what... You get what you deserve in life. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

HandballJim · 12-05-2014, 07:07 PM

This sums it up

How to Avoid Getting Shot by a Police Officer: 5 Steps

SuckOnThis · 12-05-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

Bottom line don't disrespect the police, just do what they say. Put your hands out, make them comfortable, they have the power to take your life. Stand still and be calm and you'll live another day.

This sounds like something a Jew would say in 1933 Germany. Amazing the power some of you will give the govt. Even more amazing the same people that hate and mistrust the govt are the same ones that have no problem with them killing its own citizens.

bronco67 · 12-05-2014, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: "You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different," he told Newsmax. "He wouldn't be dead today.

"Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don't have the ability to say, 'Well, this is a minor arrest, so we're just going to ignore you.'"

2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: "Don't touch me!"

3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.

5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death.

6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later.

7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations.

Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused."

8. The grand jury began hearing the case on Sept. 29 and did not reach a decision until Wednesday, so there is much testimony that was presented that has not been made public.

9. The 23-member grand jury included nine non-white jurors.

10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a "substantial risk" that Garner would have died due to the takedown.

11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel.

11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won't Tell You

I guess conservative internet news rags like Newsmax have all the answers. Another thread for persecuted white men to circle jerk racist bullshit.

SuckOnThis · 12-05-2014, 10:41 PM

Side of the car says "courtesy", "professionalism" and "respect". Dude missed the mark on all three.

adultchatpay · 12-06-2014, 06:21 AM

That middle finger is a sign of Courtesy for him.

pornguy · 12-06-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death.

One of the biggest issues is the lack of Knowledge of what actually happened.

The Median loves to use the phrase " Choke Hold " when in reality this is what was done.

The lateral vascular neck restraint is still a widely taught and utilized blood restriction hold in law enforcement[citation needed], and can be performed from behind the suspect (or from the front when the officer is "on top" of the suspect) by putting an arm around the neck of the suspect, with the crook of the elbow over the midline of the neck. This is different from a chokehold, in which the larynx is blocked by the arm. By pinching the arm together while assisting with the free hand, the carotid arteries and jugular veins are compressed on both sides of the neck. This hold does not put any pressure on the airway, but an improperly applied hold could quickly turn into an air choke if the person being restrained resists the hold by attempting to turn around.[7]

How ever when the guy was fighting he most likely turned in the hold and cut his own airway to a minimal amount which in the long run caused the heart attack.

RFremont · 12-06-2014, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Here is the problem; you seem to think that means something special. The FACT of the matter is that there really was no question whether or not he died at the hands of another (which is what a homicide is), the question was, was it a crime since it was done in the course of a cop doing his job.

The grand jury, who saw a lot more evidence than you, deemed it wasn't.

Yea that's right fagdog and I deem the grand jury got it wrong, why? Because I saw the video with my own 2 eyes of the cop putting a chokehold on the guy while he's gasping 'I can't breathe', then the coroner's report stating the cause of death was chokehold.

CyberHustler · 12-07-2014, 06:44 AM

Ive dealt with the nypd my whole life. Ive been arrested and put in a choke hold my damn self for "tresspassing" in the building I lived in. Theres a reason niggas (regardless of race) flinch around the nypd. Im missing 2 teeth from getting wacked with a flashlight by an nypd officer for digging in my back pocket to get my ID that he asked for. This aint a race issue, this an abuse of authority issue. White people get it too out here.

CyberHustler · 12-07-2014, 06:46 AM

And both officers who assaulted me were non-white.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-07-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

[B]y pinching the arm together while assisting with the free hand, the carotid arteries and jugular veins are compressed on both sides of the neck. ...

You do know that this stops blood flow to and return from the brain and no blood to the brain for a short time can cause death or stroke?

If you want to kill someone fast: slash their neck, the blood no longer gets to the brain ... They die of brain death before they will bleed out.

Eric Gamer died of a cardiovascular event -- the brain stem controls autonomous functions such as heartbeat and respiration rate.

directfiesta · 12-07-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This sounds like something a Jew would say in 1933 Germany. Amazing the power some of you will give the govt. Even more amazing the same people that hate and mistrust the govt are the same ones that have no problem with them killing its own citizens.

I was going to write the same thing ....

the right-wing club present here hates the gov, wants it out of their life, do not want their laws ... but without even a thought are ready to surrender their existence to every day cops because .. they must be right .

Another incident a few days ago :

Man dies after being shot in head 10 times by police in Hollywood near Walk of Fame... Witnesses claim he was 'unarmed'...

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A man who police say was carrying a knife has died after being shot by law enforcers in Hollywood, Los Angeles. He was taken to hospital but, did not recover from his injuries. A witness who took a video of the incident says the man was unarmed.

Police say they were responding to a report of an assault with a deadly weapon on Friday night. On arrival they were met with an ?armed man,? CBS Los Angeles reported. According to Detective Meghan Aguilar, the man was carrying a knife.

?When he saw the officers, he approached them and an officer involved shooting occurred,? ABC News reported Aguilar as saying.

A witness speaking to Eyewitness News that she heard officers with guns drawn yelling, ?He?s still got a knife.?

The suspect was critically injured and taken to hospital but later died from his injuries, a Los Angeles Police Department spokesman said.

Police say they found a combination knife, similar to a Swiss Army Knife, at the scene.

here is the knife ......:

Rochard · 12-07-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This sounds like something a Jew would say in 1933 Germany. Amazing the power some of you will give the govt. Even more amazing the same people that hate and mistrust the govt are the same ones that have no problem with them killing its own citizens.

You are taking some huge steps - the NAZI government was intentionally and systematically killing entire races of people merely because they didn't like them.

Rochard · 12-07-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Ive dealt with the nypd my whole life. Ive been arrested and put in a choke hold my damn self for "tresspassing" in the building I lived in. Theres a reason niggas (regardless of race) flinch around the nypd. Im missing 2 teeth from getting wacked with a flashlight by an nypd officer for digging in my back pocket to get my ID that he asked for. This aint a race issue, this an abuse of authority issue. White people get it too out here.

Depends on when you are talking about. Past police departments from the 60s, 70s, and 80s were pretty much corrupt and feared. I am sure this still exists in some areas, but it's not like it was twenty or thirty years ago.

Manfap · 12-08-2014, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Side of the car says "courtesy", "professionalism" and "respect". Dude missed the mark on all three.

Cardio
Pulmonary
Resuscitation

They got the initials right.

EddyTheDog · 12-08-2014, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

One of the biggest issues is the lack of Knowledge of what actually happened.

The Median loves to use the phrase " Choke Hold " when in reality this is what was done.

The lateral vascular neck restraint is still a widely taught and utilized blood restriction hold in law enforcement[citation needed], and can be performed from behind the suspect (or from the front when the officer is "on top" of the suspect) by putting an arm around the neck of the suspect, with the crook of the elbow over the midline of the neck. This is different from a chokehold, in which the larynx is blocked by the arm. By pinching the arm together while assisting with the free hand, the carotid arteries and jugular veins are compressed on both sides of the neck. This hold does not put any pressure on the airway, but an improperly applied hold could quickly turn into an air choke if the person being restrained resists the hold by attempting to turn around.[7]

How ever when the guy was fighting he most likely turned in the hold and cut his own airway to a minimal amount which in the long run caused the heart attack.

Nobody cut his airway - You can not talk if you can not breathe...

Anthony · 12-08-2014, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Nobody cut his airway - You can not talk if you can not breathe...

You also can't talk when put in a blood choke aka rear naked choke. That's why we tap.

12-04-2014, 03:06 PM	#1
Horatio Caine full-time aspiring rapper Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 5,746	11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won't Tell You 1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: "You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different," he told Newsmax. "He wouldn't be dead today. "Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don't have the ability to say, 'Well, this is a minor arrest, so we're just going to ignore you.'" 2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: "Don't touch me!" 3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny. 4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation. 5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo's attorney and police union officials argued that Garner's poor health was the main cause of his death. 6. Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later. 7. Much has been made of the fact that the use of chokeholds by police is prohibited in New York City. But officers reportedly still use them. Between 2009 and mid-2014, the Civilian Complaint Review Board received 1,128 chokehold allegations. Patrick Lynch, president of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said: "It was clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take Mr. Garner into custody as instructed, and that he used the takedown technique that he learned in the academy when Mr. Garner refused." 8. The grand jury began hearing the case on Sept. 29 and did not reach a decision until Wednesday, so there is much testimony that was presented that has not been made public. 9. The 23-member grand jury included nine non-white jurors. 10. In order to find Officer Pantaleo criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a "substantial risk" that Garner would have died due to the takedown. 11. Less than a month after Garner's death, Ramsey Orta, who shot the much-viewed videotape of the encounter, was indicted on weapons charges. Police alleged that Orta had slipped a .25-caliber handgun into a teenage accomplice's waistband outside a New York hotel. 11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won't Tell You

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 72,846	There is another video I saw this morning about a white police officer "harassing" for "having their hands in their pockets". The video shows the officer asking questions and the man saying "You cannot arrest me for having my hands in my pockets". It looks bad. But the full story is this man was pacing in front of a store and acting suspicious, and the store owner got nervous and called 911. The police wasn't harassing anyone - he was responding to a suspicious person call. Somewhere along the line it became acceptable to not respect police officers. I am not sure where any of you grew up, but police officers are almighty - No one can fuck your life up as quickly as a police officer. They can wrestle you to the ground, put cuffs on you, throw you in the back of the car, and before you know you it you are bent over the jailhouse sink having your asshole widened by your new cell mate while screaming out "Mommy" at the top of your lungs. I'm not saying police officers are saints or never wrong but they can turn your life upside instantly. This man didn't die because of a choke hold. He died because after dozens of arrests he still didn't learn something as simple as "respect". That and his four hundred pounds killed him. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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HandballJim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4,024	are you sure about #6? I thought he was dead on the scene The guy was still speaking while being in the hold, so he was not a choke hold. Bottom line don't disrespect the police, just do what they say. Put your hands out, make them comfortable, they have the power to take your life. Stand still and be calm and you'll live another day. __________________ HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

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12-04-2014, 05:27 PM	#6
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,478	I feel like the cops could have explained to him that they're placing him under arrest, or that they just need to talk, and that he needs to put his hands behind his back so they can cuff him. They just sort of grab at him, he flinches, then they sort of sneak up and pounce on him. He wasn't running. He was talking to them.. Why not talk it out a bit more instead of trying to make an aggressive move at an obviously huge guy like that? I've seen lots of great cops talk people down. People get upset, it's an unsettling situation.. Give a guy like this a minute to process his choices and calm down. There was no real dangerous element here. Classic case of minor problem turning into many major problems because of bad decisions on both sides.

12-04-2014, 08:35 PM	#10
mozadek Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,325	Misleading article, I learned about 3, 4, 6, 9, 11 while watching liberal, mainstream news.

12-04-2014, 11:43 PM	#14
American Psycho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,068	Another moron that was going to be arrested and got himself killed resisting. Really , wtf is the argument for either of these cases? all arguing that its wrong what the cops did are also saying that that jurors who voted not guilty for the policemen are also wrong and possibly racist or u just ignore the facts for your own agenda. Wow this is a GIANT RACIST CONSPIRICY.. even black latin and chinie jurors are in on it with whitey in charge. Welp I jus chalk this up with much of the bs under JUST CANT ARGUE WITH STUPIDITY.

12-05-2014, 07:07 PM	#18
HandballJim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4,024	This sums it up How to Avoid Getting Shot by a Police Officer: 5 Steps __________________ HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

12-05-2014, 10:41 PM	#21
SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	Side of the car says "courtesy", "professionalism" and "respect". Dude missed the mark on all three.

12-06-2014, 06:21 AM	#22
adultchatpay Let's Make Money Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,784	That middle finger is a sign of Courtesy for him.

12-07-2014, 06:44 AM	#25
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,214	Ive dealt with the nypd my whole life. Ive been arrested and put in a choke hold my damn self for "tresspassing" in the building I lived in. Theres a reason niggas (regardless of race) flinch around the nypd. Im missing 2 teeth from getting wacked with a flashlight by an nypd officer for digging in my back pocket to get my ID that he asked for. This aint a race issue, this an abuse of authority issue. White people get it too out here.

12-07-2014, 06:46 AM	#26
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,214	And both officers who assaulted me were non-white.