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ilnjscb · 03-01-2015, 02:18 PM

I've got a situation where someone deleted most of a wikipedia entry, then posted a press release basically crapping on the subject.

Is there any way to defend against this other than editing every time? There must be a defense playbook.

TheSquealer · 03-01-2015, 02:24 PM

You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

AdultKing · 03-01-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

pornmasta · 03-01-2015, 02:26 PM

this question can be useful.
there is a lot of propagandists in wikipedia

TheSquealer · 03-01-2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

this question can be useful.
there is a lot of propagandists in wikipedia

There is a lot of everything online. Most of it sucks.

ilnjscb · 03-01-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

Telling me to get a life but you answer a post in 6 minutes? Just answer the question, skweeler

ilnjscb · 03-01-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

this question can be useful.
there is a lot of propagandists in wikipedia

There are some capable people here, maybe someone will have real ideas.

ilnjscb · 03-01-2015, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Dude, seriously? You're one of my heroes - my wounded heart!!

If you have any actual tips I'd appreciate it.

TheSquealer · 03-01-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Telling me to get a life but you answer a post in 6 minutes? Just answer the question, skweeler

I'm waiting for my food to come.

There is no answer. Two random dysfunctional or immature Internet dipshits are engaged in a contest of wills. The first to burn out loses. Or... you could focus on productivity and enjoying life.

aka123 · 03-01-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

I've got a situation where someone deleted most of a wikipedia entry, then posted a press release basically crapping on the subject.

Is there any way to defend against this other than editing every time? There must be a defense playbook.

All the changes are in the memory; you just reverse to previous edition and that is it. Assuming you have priviledges to do that, or however it works these days (I haven't done Wikipedia for a while). In mega debated topics you can't make changes anymore if you aren't some super administrator, but I don't think this is that debated topic. So reverse baby, reverse.

AdultKing · 03-01-2015, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Dude, seriously? You're one of my heroes - my wounded heart!!

If you have any actual tips I'd appreciate it.

There are steps that you can take on Wikipedia to have reviews of page wars, edit wars or abuse.

Wikipedia:Reviewing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Beyond that I am not sure what you can do. As an open system it's able to be abused. Wikipedia will moderate the pages of particularly sensitive, abused or repeatedly mis-edited subjects.

There's several things to consider, the primary thing will be the importance of the page. If it's a page on an unknown band it's going to receive less moderation than the page on Israel (which is continually attacked by vandals and propagandists).

rogueteens · 03-01-2015, 06:14 PM

don't even bother, sensible people know that Wikipedia isn't to be trusted.

ErectMedia · 03-01-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

420 · 03-01-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

When I go out there all I can think about is how some asshole changed my wiki page.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

There is a lot of everything online. Most of it sucks.

I bet that means there is a lot of everything that sucks in the real world. I should probably stay inside.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I'm waiting for my food to come.

There is no answer. Two random dysfunctional or immature Internet dipshits are engaged in a contest of wills. The first to burn out loses. Or... you could focus on productivity and enjoying life.

TheSquealer is the internet's voice of reason. Focus on life for a few weeks then go back and change the wiki.

CPA-Rush · 03-01-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

mineistaken · 03-01-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I'm waiting for my food to come.

There is no answer. Two random dysfunctional or immature Internet dipshits are engaged in a contest of wills. The first to burn out loses. Or... you could focus on productivity and enjoying life.

How do you know that article is not hurting reputation, business or cost money in any other way? That would be serious "life" right there.

dyna mo · 03-01-2015, 08:44 PM

how do we know OP is on right side of argument? I want to help but with great power comes great responsibility.

ilnjscb · 03-01-2015, 08:49 PM

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How do you know that article is not hurting reputation, business or cost money in any other way? That would be serious "life" right there.

This ^^^ of course *we here* all know not to "trust wikipedia" but a lot of folks don't. Some people take what a wikipedia page says very seriously; so while I'm skipping through the tulips, as advocated by shkweeler, some devil has turned revenue away from my door!

Thanks for the tip AK, I'll school myself in the rules and hope for the best.

TheSquealer · 03-01-2015, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

This ^^^ of course *we here* all know not to "trust wikipedia" but a lot of folks don't. Some people take what a wikipedia page says very seriously; so while I'm skipping through the tulips, as advocated by shkweeler, some devil has turned revenue away from my door!

Thanks for the tip AK, I'll school myself in the rules and hope for the best.

have someone write a simple bot that scrapes the page, then visits it periodically to compare the saved version with the current version and then notifies you of changes (for example on Ubot forums). each time you get a notification, have the bot then go to the page, login and revert it back to the other version. Then never think about it again and try to focus on productivity.

you can't win a war with an idiot who has nothing but time on his hands.... by fighting a battle where you have nothing to win and by investing more time than him. be smart. think.

dyna mo · 03-01-2015, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

some devil has turned revenue away from my door!

figures.

RyuLion · 03-01-2015, 09:24 PM

lol........

NaughtyVisions · 03-01-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

This ^^^ of course *we here* all know not to "trust wikipedia" but a lot of folks don't. Some people take what a wikipedia page says very seriously;

Seems legit to me...

Harmonizer · 03-01-2015, 10:33 PM

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Seems legit to me...

You are quoting a wikibomb.files.wordpress site...

NaughtyVisions · 03-01-2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmonizer

You are quoting a wikibomb.files.wordpress site...

Of wikipedia vandalism edits....

ilnjscb · 03-02-2015, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

have someone write a simple bot that scrapes the page, then visits it periodically to compare the saved version with the current version and then notifies you of changes (for example on Ubot forums). each time you get a notification, have the bot then go to the page, login and revert it back to the other version. Then never think about it again and try to focus on productivity.

you can't win a war with an idiot who has nothing but time on his hands.... by fighting a battle where you have nothing to win and by investing more time than him. be smart. think.

nice one - I wonder if this exists anywhere, then at least you'd get notified

slapass · 03-02-2015, 05:38 AM

The whole thing is based on being able to footnote trusted sites. If it is something that is news worthy just get it out more so that you have more quotable sources.

_Richard_ · 03-02-2015, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Telling me to get a life but you answer a post in 6 minutes? Just answer the question, skweeler

03-01-2015, 02:18 PM	#1
ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,785	Anyone know how to defend in a wikipedia war? I've got a situation where someone deleted most of a wikipedia entry, then posted a press release basically crapping on the subject. Is there any way to defend against this other than editing every time? There must be a defense playbook.

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pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 18,942	this question can be useful. there is a lot of propagandists in wikipedia

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03-02-2015, 05:38 AM	#26
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	The whole thing is based on being able to footnote trusted sites. If it is something that is news worthy just get it out more so that you have more quotable sources.