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Paul Markham · 10-20-2016, 04:02 AM

None of this is hard. the problems are politicians are in favor of mass migration, for 3 reasons. It lowers wages, makes them look "caring" and add to the problems they are meant to solve.

1. High fines up to imprisonment for employers and landlords employing and housing illegals. Easy for the employer to check on whether someone has work records and the necessary documents. Those who are legal will have them or will have to get them. The money from these fines goes to enforcement agencies like border control, INS, and officers.

2. Remove all Public Sector support. Hospitals, schools, benefits, etc. An illegal migrant shouldn't be able to access the taxpayers pocket to enable them to live in a foreign country.

By illegally moving to a country the person commits a crime. He should not be expecting that country to look after him. Those who are real refugees must abide by the rules and register in the first safe country they arrive in. In this case Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain and stay there to be dealt with.

Once the money stops flowing back, by working illegally and taking advantage of law abiding citizens, the flow will stem itself.

Those who have arrived will soon find themselves destitute, unable to find a job, house or care for their family. They will have to apply to stay and prove they contribute, by earning a salary high enough to add to the economy. Or go home.

Will never happen because of what I said at the top. Unless people start voting for politicians who fear the people voting for them.

Jel · 10-20-2016, 04:36 AM

that's cam operators and governments solved, what's next?

Paul Markham · 10-20-2016, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

that's cam operators and governments solved, what's next?

Try to find faults in the idea and then it can be honed.

another one for the US would be driving licenses. No illegal would have a driving license. Making getting around very hard.

Jel · 10-20-2016, 06:05 AM

yeah, I hear most cars won't start without one

beerptrol · 10-20-2016, 07:03 AM

It won't happen. People like Trump use or hire contractors who use undocumented workers in order to save money. Clinton hit him with that fact last night and he didn't deny it

CaptainHowdy · 10-20-2016, 07:12 AM

Paul M For President.

brassmonkey · 10-20-2016, 08:36 AM

we already have that here. a owner of manny's carwash just went to prison over the summer. after being caught making up false docs for illegals to work for him. i hope he drops the soap

brassmonkey · 10-20-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we already have that here. a owner of manny's carwash just went to prison over the summer. after being caught making up false docs for illegals to work for him. i hope he drops the soap

dannys carwash

trying to work and post.

JFK · 10-20-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Paul M For President.

Hail to the Chief

Paul Markham · 10-21-2016, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

yeah, I hear most cars won't start without one

Who told you a US driving License was only used to drive a car?

(Advice) Think before posting. Not doing so reveals ignorance.

Paul Markham · 10-21-2016, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

It won't happen. People like Trump use or hire contractors who use undocumented workers in order to save money. Clinton hit him with that fact last night and he didn't deny it

He's the one trying to stop it. She wants to legalise all those workers so they can compete with workers employed by companies who won't break the law.

As illegal migration continues will she legalise the next 8 years bunch when she leaves office? Assuming she lasts that long or doesn't do it every 4 years?

Paul Markham · 10-21-2016, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we already have that here. a owner of manny's carwash just went to prison over the summer. after being caught making up false docs for illegals to work for him. i hope he drops the soap

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a

Not tough enough to deter criminals.

pimpmaster9000 · 10-21-2016, 04:41 AM

1) stop creating wars over oil
2) stop exploiting the regions after the wars
3) fill US ships and planes with refugees and send them to the USA because of 1 and 2
4) do not lick US foreign policy asshole

Jigster715 · 10-21-2016, 04:54 AM

I've always been for shooting them on sight. Saves taxpayers money.

galleryseek · 10-21-2016, 06:42 AM

I can solve the problem of immigration, along with many others with 2 words and 1 step:

1. End taxation.

czarina · 10-21-2016, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

another one for the US would be driving licenses. No illegal would have a driving license. Making getting around very hard.

The US does not give drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants. People MUST prove their legal status to get a license. Get your facts straight.

beerptrol · 10-21-2016, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He's the one trying to stop it. She wants to legalise all those workers so they can compete with workers employed by companies who won't break the law.

As illegal migration continues will she legalise the next 8 years bunch when she leaves office? Assuming she lasts that long or doesn't do it every 4 years?

Action speaks louder than words!
He's not trying to stop shit. He's all talk and will say what he thinks his base wants to hear. He won't do anything that hurts his bottom line, his actions have showed this over and over again!

poncabare · 10-21-2016, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

None of this is hard. the problems are politicians are in favor of mass migration, for 3 reasons. It lowers wages, makes them look "caring" and add to the problems they are meant to solve.

1. High fines up to imprisonment for employers and landlords employing and housing illegals. Easy for the employer to check on whether someone has work records and the necessary documents. Those who are legal will have them or will have to get them. The money from these fines goes to enforcement agencies like border control, INS, and officers.

2. Remove all Public Sector support. Hospitals, schools, benefits, etc. An illegal migrant shouldn't be able to access the taxpayers pocket to enable them to live in a foreign country.

By illegally moving to a country the person commits a crime. He should not be expecting that country to look after him. Those who are real refugees must abide by the rules and register in the first safe country they arrive in. In this case Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain and stay there to be dealt with.

Once the money stops flowing back, by working illegally and taking advantage of law abiding citizens, the flow will stem itself.

Those who have arrived will soon find themselves destitute, unable to find a job, house or care for their family. They will have to apply to stay and prove they contribute, by earning a salary high enough to add to the economy. Or go home.

Will never happen because of what I said at the top. Unless people start voting for politicians who fear the people voting for them.

Agree with those, but I think really the most logical is to make the prisoners pick the fruits/ vegetables that illegals typically come here to do for work. Omit the demand for those jobs will do tremendously. I see we have anywhere between 1.4- 2.3 million prisoners now. Already paying for them to sit around anyways, put them to work...

Paul Markham · 10-21-2016, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by galleryseek

I can solve the problem of immigration, along with many others with 2 words and 1 step:

1. End taxation.

Stupidest idea yet.

Paul Markham · 10-21-2016, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

The US does not give drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants. People MUST prove their legal status to get a license. Get your facts straight.

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Immigrants in the country illegally cannot produce the necessary documents (like a social security card) to obtain a driver?s license under state laws.

Beginning in 1993 with Washington state, 12 states and DC have changed their laws to allow immigrants in the country illegally to obtain driver's licenses. Those states hope to encourage unlicensed drivers to pass the driver's license test and obtain car insurance.

Some city governments, including San Francisco, CA, New Haven, CT, and Asbury Park, NJ, issue photo identification cards to residents who are in the country illegally. These ID cards cannot be used as driver's licenses.

Get your facts straight. The scheme to give illegal migrants, criminals, ID cards. Proves these Governments are in favor of illegal migrants.

Sid70 · 10-21-2016, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

None of this is hard. the problems are politicians are in favor of mass migration, for 3 reasons. It lowers wages, makes them look "caring" and add to the problems they are meant to solve.

1. High fines up to imprisonment for employers and landlords employing and housing illegals. Easy for the employer to check on whether someone has work records and the necessary documents. Those who are legal will have them or will have to get them. The money from these fines goes to enforcement agencies like border control, INS, and officers.

2. Remove all Public Sector support. Hospitals, schools, benefits, etc. An illegal migrant shouldn't be able to access the taxpayers pocket to enable them to live in a foreign country.

By illegally moving to a country the person commits a crime. He should not be expecting that country to look after him. Those who are real refugees must abide by the rules and register in the first safe country they arrive in. In this case Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain and stay there to be dealt with.

Once the money stops flowing back, by working illegally and taking advantage of law abiding citizens, the flow will stem itself.

Those who have arrived will soon find themselves destitute, unable to find a job, house or care for their family. They will have to apply to stay and prove they contribute, by earning a salary high enough to add to the economy. Or go home.

Will never happen because of what I said at the top. Unless people start voting for politicians who fear the people voting for them.

You deserve only this:

Paul Markham · 10-21-2016, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare

Agree with those, but I think really the most logical is to make the prisoners pick the fruits/ vegetables that illegals typically come here to do for work. Omit the demand for those jobs will do tremendously. I see we have anywhere between 1.4- 2.3 million prisoners now. Already paying for them to sit around anyways, put them to work...

Long term the demand for physical labour in the workplace will drop to a level that so few will be required there will be lots of people available.

The big problem is long term. Population rises are bad when a child born today will have a very limited job range. Unless college educated in the sciences or subjects like the Law. Their opportunities will be mostly low skilled/paid. Even then, there's a finite number that can hold those jobs.

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The 1% not only wants to export your jobs, they want to destroy them as well. While at the same time making sure more come into the country to do those jobs.

You youngsters need to get with the program.

Sid70 · 10-21-2016, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Long term the demand for physical labour in the workplace will drop to a level that so few will be required there will be lots of people available.

The big problem is long term. Population rises are bad when a child born today will have a very limited job range. Unless college educated in the sciences or subjects like the Law. Their opportunities will be mostly low skilled/paid. Even then, there's a finite number that can hold those jobs.

New McDonald's In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots - News Examiner - Examine Your World

Automated Fast Food Restaurants Are the Future Says Andy Puzder

Carl's Jr. wants to open automated location - Business Insider

The 1% not only wants to export your jobs, they want to destroy them as well. While at the same time making sure more come into the country to do those jobs.

You youngsters need to get with the program.

Wealthy bitches who accumulated resources to fire people by opening robot based fast food places will face public punishment eventually.

Paul Markham · 10-21-2016, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

Action speaks louder than words!
He's not trying to stop shit. He's all talk and will say what he thinks his base wants to hear. He won't do anything that hurts his bottom line, his actions have showed this over and over again!

This is what the base wants to hear. Whether he does it or not is another matter, along with the bottom line aspect and can be addressed at all politicians. At least he's saying it.

When it comes to the bottom line aspect. You do really need to keep up with the real world.

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They all have to protect their bottom line. Clinton as much if not more than Trump.

Rochard · 10-21-2016, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Try to find faults in the idea and then it can be honed.

another one for the US would be driving licenses. No illegal would have a driving license. Making getting around very hard.

(I believe) California allows illegal immigrants to get a driver's license, and I believe some other states allow this too.

It sounds like a horrible idea and I believe on one hand it is.... But there is a reason for it. We have a lot of illegal immigrants driving, and if they do not have a driver's license they cannot get insurance - which means none of them have automobile insurance.

It shouldn't matter though. In order to employ someone, you need their social security card. And you have to verify them through the federal e-verify system.

brassmonkey · 10-21-2016, 12:11 PM

you make national laws targeting employers and landlords poof game over. police here can now ask people for their papers. in mexico they ask like every 5 mins

Relic · 10-21-2016, 06:40 PM

That's great Paul

Paul Markham · 10-22-2016, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

(I believe) California allows illegal immigrants to get a driver's license, and I believe some other states allow this too.

It sounds like a horrible idea and I believe on one hand it is.... But there is a reason for it. We have a lot of illegal immigrants driving, and if they do not have a driver's license they cannot get insurance - which means none of them have automobile insurance.

It shouldn't matter though. In order to employ someone, you need their social security card. And you have to verify them through the federal e-verify system.

I like the excuse they give foer supplying illegal migrants with IDs.

I understand about Social Security cards. I have one. Great way of stopping an illegal migrant from getting a job.

Paul Markham · 10-22-2016, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you make national laws targeting employers and landlords poof game over. police here can now ask people for their papers. in mexico they ask like every 5 mins

More important is the fines. Hike them up to a level that links the wealth of the employer to the fine. Like a billionaire is fined up to $100,000 per illegal. And all the money collected in fines goes to fund the police who monitor the situation. After a short time, there won't be very many of them. Employers and landlords will do the monitoring to save not going bankrupt.

Won't happen because billionaires don't want it to happen.

pimpmaster9000 · 10-22-2016, 02:42 AM

Maybe the EU should surgically tie it's mouth to US foreign policy asshole and form a giant cuckold centipede, processing US foreign policy shit ass to mouth?

Also those former colonies should pay reparations because the empire's do not make as much money now and the western workers are too fat to employ?

brassmonkey · 10-22-2016, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

More important is the fines. Hike them up to a level that links the wealth of the employer to the fine. Like a billionaire is fined up to $100,000 per illegal. And all the money collected in fines goes to fund the police who monitor the situation. After a short time, there won't be very many of them. Employers and landlords will do the monitoring to save not going bankrupt.

Won't happen because billionaires don't want it to happen.

fines and jail would be mandatory. no skirting the law.rich companies break laws and just pay the fines. no serious action taken.

pimpmaster9000 · 10-22-2016, 02:57 AM

god damned immigrants running away from centuries of western exploitation

I wonder how many indians were starved to death during WW2 to feed pauls family? not enough thats for sure

10-20-2016, 04:02 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Simple ways to curb illegal migration. None of this is hard. the problems are politicians are in favor of mass migration, for 3 reasons. It lowers wages, makes them look "caring" and add to the problems they are meant to solve. 1. High fines up to imprisonment for employers and landlords employing and housing illegals. Easy for the employer to check on whether someone has work records and the necessary documents. Those who are legal will have them or will have to get them. The money from these fines goes to enforcement agencies like border control, INS, and officers. 2. Remove all Public Sector support. Hospitals, schools, benefits, etc. An illegal migrant shouldn't be able to access the taxpayers pocket to enable them to live in a foreign country. By illegally moving to a country the person commits a crime. He should not be expecting that country to look after him. Those who are real refugees must abide by the rules and register in the first safe country they arrive in. In this case Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain and stay there to be dealt with. Once the money stops flowing back, by working illegally and taking advantage of law abiding citizens, the flow will stem itself. Those who have arrived will soon find themselves destitute, unable to find a job, house or care for their family. They will have to apply to stay and prove they contribute, by earning a salary high enough to add to the economy. Or go home. Will never happen because of what I said at the top. Unless people start voting for politicians who fear the people voting for them. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 76,920	we already have that here. a owner of manny's carwash just went to prison over the summer. after being caught making up false docs for illegals to work for him. i hope he drops the soap __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - Support The Laken Riley Act!!! END DACA - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	1) stop creating wars over oil 2) stop exploiting the regions after the wars 3) fill US ships and planes with refugees and send them to the USA because of 1 and 2 4) do not lick US foreign policy asshole __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

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Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	that's cam operators and governments solved, what's next?

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Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	yeah, I hear most cars won't start without one

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Jigster715 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: elmer blackwood mansion Posts: 1,459	I've always been for shooting them on sight. Saves taxpayers money.

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galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	I can solve the problem of immigration, along with many others with 2 words and 1 step: 1. End taxation.

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brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 76,920	you make national laws targeting employers and landlords poof game over. police here can now ask people for their papers. in mexico they ask like every 5 mins __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - Support The Laken Riley Act!!! END DACA - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

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Relic So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,300	That's great Paul

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	Maybe the EU should surgically tie it's mouth to US foreign policy asshole and form a giant cuckold centipede, processing US foreign policy shit ass to mouth? Also those former colonies should pay reparations because the empire's do not make as much money now and the western workers are too fat to employ? __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	god damned immigrants running away from centuries of western exploitation I wonder how many indians were starved to death during WW2 to feed pauls family? not enough thats for sure __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here