the liberal lie of a racist america is becoming dangerously accepted by too many people

[Joshua G]

just a thought i had when reading a link posted by mark prince.

i dont know. here in the tri state area, i dont have a problem with women & minorities, & they dont have a problem with me.

then i read the narratives liberals say about how this country is still profoundly & institutionally racist, i cant figure out where this america is. other than inside college classrooms, & liberal media boardrooms.

this bullshit narrative of a racist country, that just elected obama, then re-elected him, is profoundly dangerous. lone wolves ginned up by black lives matter hysteria are murdering cops. just like ISIS is ginning up mad muslims.

same problem, driven by hateful ideologies. Liberal PC has parallels to ISIS. Hating this country, calling it oppresive, comes from both camps. colin kapaernick is fanning the flames of hate against america with his comments. just like al-zarqawi. same deal.

[Joshua G]

this is the liberal gibberish i am talking about

I do know that in this age of colorblindness even though overt racism is evermore present today than in the past, the school to prison pipeline at its strongest, and capitalism’s uncanny stranglehold on education has created a false sense of a post-racial America.

how on earth is racism more present today than in the past? are there separate bathroom facilities somewhere i am missing?

the school to prison pipeline? so the country is sending black people to jail, not their own actions? theres always an apologia from the left for bad behavior.

capitalism stranglehold on education? the liberals 110% own our public education system. all the race & sex hysteria starts with public schools.

what planet are you liberals on? your like HITLER with these hateful delusions about america. COPS ARE GETTING MURDERED OVER THIS BULLSHIT...

[Joshua G]

seriously liberals...what is this shit?

the perp is black, so black lives matter says the cop is not a hero? he was trying to kill people ginned up on ISIS rhetoric.

not a hero?

black lives matter is becoming a danger. their protests call for the killing of cops.

[pimpmaster9000]

well you were very very very very racist before and now you are just very racist...and terrorist...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

seriously liberals...what is this shit?

the perp is black, so black lives matter says the cop is not a hero? he was trying to kill people ginned up on ISIS rhetoric.

not a hero?

black lives matter is becoming a danger. their protests call for the killing of cops.

I'm not really sure why the libs hate themselves, America and white people, fucked in the head is all I can figure

[notinmybackyard]

In the United States if you produce a porn with a great big black man that has a giant cock and a gold tooth fucking a small pale skinned blonde hair woman makes good money.

In Canada the sales of videos about negros on white broads isn't anywhere near as popular. However the sales are similar when you make a porn with a big french Canadian with a huge cock fucking an english Canadian broad or big steroid swallowing english Canadian male fucking a french Canadian broad that has blue hair and acts like she's absolutely a fucking moron.

Are the above things racist?
I really don't give a shit because I'm a pornographer... Just show me the money

[Barry-xlovecam]

An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force
He is a Black Harvard Professor too;

An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force
Roland G. Fryer, Jr

NBER Working Paper No. 22399
Issued in July 2016
NBER Program(s): LE LS POL

This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force
He is a Black Harvard Professor too;

yes. thanks for proving my point that this racism exists only in college classrooms & liberal media newsrooms. still cant find it in the real USA.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

well you were very very very very racist before and now you are just very racist...and terrorist...

LOL. white guy criticizes fake accusations of racist country. gets labeled bigot. & a side of terrorist to boot.

shocking. got there in 4 posts.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

just a thought i had when reading a link posted by mark prince.

i dont know. here in the tri state area, i dont have a problem with women & minorities, & they dont have a problem with me.

then i read the narratives liberals say about how this country is still profoundly & institutionally racist, i cant figure out where this america is. other than inside college classrooms, & liberal media boardrooms.

this bullshit narrative of a racist country, that just elected obama, then re-elected him, is profoundly dangerous. lone wolves ginned up by black lives matter hysteria are murdering cops. just like ISIS is ginning up mad muslims.

same problem, driven by hateful ideologies. Liberal PC has parallels to ISIS. Hating this country, calling it oppresive, comes from both camps. colin kapaernick is fanning the flames of hate against america with his comments. just like al-zarqawi. same deal.

it's a very destructive, divisive agenda in western societies where these problems simply do not exist structurally. Yet the media makes (gullible) people believe that they do.

No cop shoots anyone simply because of his skin color - all the big stories are all suspects who resisted arrest and in the case of Micheal Brown even tried to grab the cops gun. The exact same situations with white suspects get no media attention or outrage at all. Exactly the same situations! The only difference is the skin color!

It's insane that the media spins these incidents making it 100% about skin color, and it's even more insane that so many people fall for it so easily. They're completely blinded by lies they eat up and now this brainwashing is already starting in schools.

Very worrying indeed, and the orchestrators of this sick agenda are working hard to spread it here in the Netherlands as well. These problems are really completely non-existant here in this country, but this agenda fabricates these problems and are now creating the same division by it.

There's a reason for this shit, and it comes from the ones who rule the world. If you think it's a coincidence the exact same stupid social justice and racebaiting shit you have in the US is now also in the Netherlands - it's simply impossible.

[woj]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force
He is a Black Harvard Professor too;

"This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings."



sounds like the whole idea that white racist cops are killing innocent blacks is just a myth?

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

yes. thanks for proving my point that this racism exists only in college classrooms & liberal media newsrooms. still cant find it in the real USA.

We see life's expectancies as our realities.
If you woke up and looked in the mirror and saw that you had become a Black, Hispanic or Muslim you would be living another reality.

'Terrell G', 'Jose G' or 'Mohamed G' would be a totally different voice.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by woj

"...

On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police.

sounds like the whole idea that white racist cops are killing innocent blacks is just a myth?

I guess you will have to google the media accounts of the survey or actually speed read the report to know.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

just a thought i had when reading a link posted by mark prince.

i dont know. here in the tri state area, i dont have a problem with women & minorities, & they dont have a problem with me.

then i read the narratives liberals say about how this country is still profoundly & institutionally racist, i cant figure out where this america is. other than inside college classrooms, & liberal media boardrooms.

this bullshit narrative of a racist country, that just elected obama, then re-elected him, is profoundly dangerous. lone wolves ginned up by black lives matter hysteria are murdering cops. just like ISIS is ginning up mad muslims.

same problem, driven by hateful ideologies. Liberal PC has parallels to ISIS. Hating this country, calling it oppresive, comes from both camps. colin kapaernick is fanning the flames of hate against america with his comments. just like al-zarqawi. same deal.

It is a statistical thing. I don't want to call the kettle black but calling half the US libbies all the time does not make you, the banner carrier of peace and harmony.

[notinmybackyard]

[woj]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I guess you will have to google the media accounts of the survey or actually speed read the report to know.

that's what "abstract" is for... I doubt that by briefly reading and analyzing the whole study I would be able to reach better conclusions than the author, the person who is an expert in the field, and who has examined this issue for months/years... (plus I have better things to do than analyze some study about racism in detail)

but I took a quick look, and their definition of "use of force" is pretty mild, touching a suspect in any way means "use of force"... and that happens only 4% of the time for minorities... so white suspects get touched ~3% of the time, minorities ~4% of the time... it's 50% increase indeed, but when put in 3% / 4% perspective it doesn't sound as bad?

[crockett]

Nice melt down OP.

[2MuchMark]

[xKingx]

Originally Posted by **********

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by crockett

Nice melt down OP.

maybe you could try and read some of the texts in this thread. It are all facts of how you are being brainwashed, i'd imagine it's pretty damn eye-opening for people who are still asleep. Then again you have to be open-minded for the truth so that's gonna be hard for people living in the close minded box the media has created in your heads.

[Paul Markham]

No one minds a woman, black, brown or coffee coloured person operating on them.

They're just sick to death of black, brown or coffee coloured people who can't do any more than mow a lawn.

I have my own woman and girl; to mow the lawn.

[flashfire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

maybe you could try and read some of the texts in this thread. It are all facts of how you are being brainwashed, i'd imagine it's pretty damn eye-opening for people who are still asleep. Then again you have to be open-minded for the truth so that's gonna be hard for people living in the close minded box the media has created in your heads.

What truth are you talking about

The wall? (now fence or theoretical wall)
Hillary being locked up? (nope, because he has done the same or worse)
Draining the swamp? (Fills entire team with Washington insiders)

who is brainwashed here?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

just a thought i had when reading a link posted by mark prince.

i dont know. here in the tri state area, i dont have a problem with women & minorities, & they dont have a problem with me.

then i read the narratives liberals say about how this country is still profoundly & institutionally racist, i cant figure out where this america is. other than inside college classrooms, & liberal media boardrooms.

this bullshit narrative of a racist country, that just elected obama, then re-elected him, is profoundly dangerous. lone wolves ginned up by black lives matter hysteria are murdering cops. just like ISIS is ginning up mad muslims.

same problem, driven by hateful ideologies. Liberal PC has parallels to ISIS. Hating this country, calling it oppresive, comes from both camps. colin kapaernick is fanning the flames of hate against america with his comments. just like al-zarqawi. same deal.

Just a thought. There are 318 million people in the United States and it is big a country. Just because it isn't happening to you in your little corner of the world doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Racism is alive and well in this country. That doesn't mean everyone is racist, but it also doesn't mean everyone is announcing that they are racist.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

it's a very destructive, divisive agenda in western societies

You are a Dutch citizen living in the Netherlands, a citizen of the country that created the transport of slaves/slave trade from the 1500's to 1850's. In your country you mock blacks openly, so of course you judge Americans as having a divisive agenda. You are such a hypocrite here every day judging Americans in hateful ways.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You are a Dutch citizen living in the Netherlands, a citizen of the country that created the transport of slaves/slave trade from the 1500's to 1850's. In your country you mock blacks openly, so of course you judge Americans as having a divisive agenda. You are such a hypocrite here every day judging Americans in hateful ways.

what is it with you lumping my critiques towards the sick establishment agenda and the sleeping minority in the western world as hating Americans? Your reading comprehension sucks, as well as your constant discrimination against the Dutch and its culture. Ironic that you are the only one constantly discriminating an entire country and calling someone else racist, it doesn't get any more ignorant than that

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

what is it with you lumping my critiques towards the sick establishment agenda and the sleeping minority in the western world as hating Americans? Your reading comprehension sucks, as well as your constant discrimination against the Dutch and its culture. Ironic that you are the only one constantly discriminating an entire country and calling someone else racist, it doesn't get any more ignorant than that

You are a coward Dutch in the Netherlands that does nothing but post pro Trump anti American posts here everyday. No other Dutch I know is anything as narrow minded and hateful as you are here everyday to Americans.

You post about American culture and racism without bringing into it your experience as Dutch living in the Netherlands. You just judge and hate on Americans and our culture, every day here.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You are a coward Dutch in the Netherlands that does nothing but post pro Trump anti American posts here everyday. No other Dutch I know is anything as narrow minded and hateful as you are here everyday to Americans.

You post about American culture and racism without bringing into it your experience as Dutch living in the Netherlands. You just judge and hate on Americans and our culture, every day here.

then you need to read my posts a little better. Everything you just claimed I post is 100% false.
Like i said, polish up your reading comprehension. Maybe you can join brasshat, he's in his 50s but is still taking classes at the local elementary school, nothing to be ashamed of. Actually it is.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

then you need to read my posts a little better. Everything you just claimed I post is 100% false.
Like i said, polish up your reading comprehension. Maybe you can join brasshat, he's in his 50s but is still taking classes at the local elementary school, nothing to be ashamed of. Actually it is.

Wouter, you are a Dutch citizen living in Kring Van Dorth , Netherlands, it's like the Louisiana of the USA except it's the poorest, coldest, flattest, muddiest, part of your country with the most rain.

It's easy to see why you obsess with people in another country, but it doesn't make your life any better to post put downs of Americans here everyday.

Kring Van Dorth's one day of summer last year

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Wouter, you are a Dutch citizen living in Kring Van Dorth , Netherlands, it's like the Louisiana of the USA except it's the poorest, coldest, flattest, muddiest, part of your country with the most rain.

It's easy to see why you obsess with people in another country, but it doesn't make your life any better to post put downs of Americans here everyday.

I think you need to dig a little deeper, stalker

[EonBlue]

Drove through a student area near an esteemed university in a major Canadian city today. Saw a piece of paper tacked to a light post that had in big bold letters at the top: "Alt-right = Nazi. No fascism in Canada." Then a bunch of smaller text below it that I couldn't read from the car window.

I have to wonder - what twisted reality is this person living in that nazism and fascism are somehow part of the dialogue? Where exactly are these nazis and fascists and what exactly are they doing?

I never see anyone claiming to be a nazi or a fascist but I do quite frequently see people openly supporting communism and bashing capitalism. And these self proclaimed communists tend to act more and more like the fascists they pretend to be so afraid of.

Strange times we live in. Strange times indeed.




.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

I think you need to dig a little deeper, stalker

Ok






Sexy

[kane]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Drove through a student area near an esteemed university in a major Canadian city today. Saw a piece of paper tacked to a light post that had in big bold letters at the top: "Alt-right = Nazi. No fascism in Canada." Then a bunch of smaller text below it that I couldn't read from the car window.

I have to wonder - what twisted reality is this person living in that nazism and fascism are somehow part of the dialogue? Where exactly are these nazis and fascists and what exactly are they doing?

I never see anyone claiming to be a nazi or a fascist but I do quite frequently see people openly supporting communism and bashing capitalism. And these self proclaimed communists tend to act more and more like the fascists they pretend to be so afraid of.

Strange times we live in. Strange times indeed.




.

It seems like these days there are some people who just label anything they don't agree with as Hitler/Nazi/Fascist. A few years ago there was a woman standing in front of my local post office holding a sign that had a picture of Obama's face with a Hitler mustache on it and she was saying he was a Nazi. When I asked her what she meant she went off on a rant about how Obama and Hitler basically had the same agenda (she was pissed about Obamacare) so, therefore, Obama was Nazi. Just to mess with her I asked how he could be a Nazi when he was clearly a Muslim. . . she just looked at me like a spring in her head had snapped.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

well you were very very very very racist before and now you are just very racist...and terrorist...

Whatever you say mr. ethnic cleanser

[RFremont]

This is my take on this; truth be said I can't say I'm a liberal or conservative as I think both sides have their merits and both have their completely fucked up rationale as well.

The problem that normal, working class , tax paying people have is not that they are racist; it's that they know when black people and minorites scream for equality, what they really are screaming for is special treatment.

A guy wakes up and goes to work in the steel mine, or factory or wherever and each day in the news hears and reads about black athletes making multi-millions of dollars, rappers/artists pulling in big money for putting out shit music, and black celebrity artists which huge revenues. For the sake of making my point, we all know that lebron james and floyd mayweather other top NBA and NFL players make upwards of 50mn a year... how about we look at a Steve Harvey (entertainer) or a Tyra Banks, two people with a reported combined net worth of 100 mn USD. And that's just 2 less than A actor/entertainers that I just thought of.

Then this average, normal working guy has to hear about black people whining about whatever they whine about. What other country in the world would Steve Harvey make 30mn a year. Where else (maybe the UK but not at that level) would rappers make millions. If this average working guy speaks out about this, well then he's a racist. If he speaks to the truth, he's a racist. He just has to sit there quietly and clap when untrue statements are made because the PC police will call him racist.

Now you add that hypocrisy, you have the stereotype that a large portion of black people - now I don't say all so don't you libs all get your panties in your twats - have a propensity for violence, don't want to take manual labor jobs, prefer criminal/gang life, worship rap/hip hop culture, have criminal records, have a disproportionate number of single mother homes and so on... and you can understand why Trump got to where he did.
Some of you turds pull out skewed stats that show otherwise but everyone knows the real truth.

Now do I think 5 white cops jumping on top of one fat black dude and choking him to death is right? No. Do I think cops shooting an unarmed man in the back while running away is ok? No. Do I think real hardcore racists exist? yes. Do I think there are some wonderful, honest and hard working people? Sure. But if black people, such as black lives matters, are going to shriek and scream and riot because of some injustices, they cannot discriminate against only white vs black. They should look at the black on black crime/murder rate in cities like Chicago, and should be more appalled.... but no, that doesn't fit their professional victim agenda as a means to get more freebies, more passes, more benefits.

All in all, I can completely see and agree that people have had enough.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RFremont

This is my take on this; truth be said I can't say I'm a liberal or conservative as I think both sides have their merits and both have their completely fucked up rationale as well.

The problem that normal, working class , tax paying people have is not that they are racist; it's that they know when black people and minorites scream for equality, what they really are screaming for is special treatment.

A guy wakes up and goes to work in the steel mine, or factory or wherever and each day in the news hears and reads about black athletes making multi-millions of dollars, rappers/artists pulling in big money for putting out shit music, and black celebrity artists which huge revenues. For the same of making my point, we all know that lebron james and floyd mayweather other top NBA and NFL players make upwards of 50mn a year... how about we look at a Steve Harvey (entertainer) or a Tyra Banks, two people with a reported combined net worth of 100 mn USD. And that's just 2 less than A actor/entertainers that I just thought of.

Then this average, normal working guy has to hear about black people whining about whatever they whine about. What other country in the world would Steve Harvey make 30mn a year. Where else (maybe the UK but not at that level) would rappers make millions. If this average working guy speaks out about this, well then he's a racist. If he speaks to the truth, he's a racist. He just has to sit there quietly and clap when untrue statements are made because the PC police will call him racist.

Now you add that hypocrisy, you have the stereotype that a large portion of black people - now I don't say all so don't you libs all get your panties in your twats - have a propensity for violence, don't want to take manual labor jobs, prefer criminal/gang life, worship rap/hip hop culture, have criminal records, have a disproportionate number of single mother homes and so on... and you can understand why Trump got to where he did.
Some of you turds pull out skewed stats that show otherwise but everyone knows the real truth.

Now do I think 5 white cops jumping on top of one fat black dude and choking him to death is right? No. Do I think cops shooting an unarmed man in the back while running away is ok? No. Do I think real hardcore racists exist? yes. Do I think there are some wonderful, honest and hard working people? Sure. But if black people, such as black lives matters, are going to shriek and scream and riot because of some injustices, they cannot discriminate against only white vs black. They should look at the black on black crime/murder rate in cities like Chicago, and should be more appalled.... but no, that doesn't fit their professional victim agenda as a means to get more freebies, more passes, more benefits.

All in all, I can completely see and agree that people have had enough.

Meanwhile you can stand in a huge line at the DMV with tons of people of all races and creeds for hours with no problem.

The media and far right/left push their stuff out there and that's what we see, while the vast majority of people get along with no issue

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by kane

Just a thought. There are 318 million people in the United States and it is big a country. Just because it isn't happening to you in your little corner of the world doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Racism is alive and well in this country. That doesn't mean everyone is racist, but it also doesn't mean everyone is announcing that they are racist.

kane. i never said there is no racism.

but its a simple question. is the COUNTRY systemically racist? thats what the thread says...no.

why is the opposite extreme always posited by the left...if there is 1 racist in america, the country is racist.

is that your position kane?

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Drove through a student area near an esteemed university in a major Canadian city today. Saw a piece of paper tacked to a light post that had in big bold letters at the top: "Alt-right = Nazi. No fascism in Canada." Then a bunch of smaller text below it that I couldn't read from the car window.

I have to wonder - what twisted reality is this person living in that nazism and fascism are somehow part of the dialogue? Where exactly are these nazis and fascists and what exactly are they doing?

I never see anyone claiming to be a nazi or a fascist but I do quite frequently see people openly supporting communism and bashing capitalism. And these self proclaimed communists tend to act more and more like the fascists they pretend to be so afraid of.

Strange times we live in. Strange times indeed.




.

thank you. nice to see someone can properly understand the point of a thread. canada is not nazi. america is not nazi, is not the america of 1860, or 1962. the footage of white people at the masters, with all black caddies, those days are done.

Today the democrats have to invent racism in 2016. hands up, dont shoot.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by kane

It seems like these days there are some people who just label anything they don't agree with as Hitler/Nazi/Fascist.

some people? try an entire political party, the mainstream media, & college campuses across america, where you have a better chance being educated by a communist than by a republican.

how is it healthy to have our education system SYSTEMICALLY teach children that the country is MORE racist in 2016 than 1962...how is that happening? How are people with college degrees voting for gender politics during a great recession? bubble thinking?

Trump needs to flush the public education of this this lying cabal.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

kane. i never said there is no racism.

but its a simple question. is the COUNTRY systemically racist? thats what the thread says...no.

why is the opposite extreme always posited by the left...if there is 1 racist in america, the country is racist.

is that your position kane?

My position is that the country is pretty racist, but most of that racism is kept under wraps or is subtle. If I had to put it on a scale of 1 to 100 where 1 is not racist and 100 is terrible racism, I would say the US is somewhere in the 60's. I think we have come a long way, but I think there is still a good, pretty strong, undercurrent of racism in this country.

To me, the majority of this racism isn't someone screaming about it in public or a white person attacking a black person (or vice versa) it is small, often subtle things. It is seeing a couple of black guys walking down the street and waiting for them to move on before you cross the street. It is that guy at work who gets along with everyone, but secretly thinks interracial relationships are wrong. It is the cops in a white suburb who pulled my black friend over 6 times within the first 4 weeks of her living there. She was never ticketed, but she lives in a nice, upscale neighborhood and drives a pretty nice car and that made some cops want to check her out. It is a black person (or person of any race) going in for a job interview and not getting it because someone in charge of hiring feels a little "uneasy" about black people. And so on.

One recent thing that has started happening that has done a serious disservice to race relations is how if a person disagrees with someone on some issue, that must mean they are a racist. For example, if you don't support Black Lives Matter, you must be a racist. If you support Trump solely because you thought Hillary was corrupt or because you think he will improve the economy, you must be a racist. If a black person (or someone of any non-white ethnicity) says something and you don't agree with it, you must be a racist. Using a big brush to paint broad racial strokes does nothing to help race relations.

To sum it up, I think there is a lot more racism than some people would like to admit and there is less racism than some people portray or realize.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by kane

It seems like these days there are some people who just label anything they don't agree with as Hitler/Nazi/Fascist. A few years ago there was a woman standing in front of my local post office holding a sign that had a picture of Obama's face with a Hitler mustache on it and she was saying he was a Nazi. When I asked her what she meant she went off on a rant about how Obama and Hitler basically had the same agenda (she was pissed about Obamacare) so, therefore, Obama was Nazi. Just to mess with her I asked how he could be a Nazi when he was clearly a Muslim. . . she just looked at me like a spring in her head had snapped.

When someone perceives Obama as a Nazi, you can just assume they don't even understand what a Nazi is, and that they're most likely misinformed.

When a room full of people at an alt-right meeting are yelling "heil" and using the Nazi hand salute...well there's no mistaking that for what it really is. What hairs are there to split over that scene? It's a bunch of fucking Nazis unabashedly acting like Nazis.

The waters are not muddy here. Alt-right should be called what it is...white supremacy. Normalizing their speech is not the direction civilization is supposed to be heading, and Trump's election has seemed to embolden these ugly people. Every news outlet should stop calling them the "alt-right" and call them what they are --- white supremacists, or Nazis. Letting them have this new branding with a harmless sounding moniker is doing exactly what they need to be de-marginalized.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by RFremont

But if black people, such as black lives matters, are going to shriek and scream and riot because of some injustices, they cannot discriminate against only white vs black. They should look at the black on black crime/murder rate in cities like Chicago, and should be more appalled.... but no, that doesn't fit their professional victim agenda as a means to get more freebies, more passes, more benefits.

yep. watching mobs riot in charlotte, for days, over a black cop shooting a guy that pulled a gun on cops...then the same weekend 17 people are shot in chicago...no protest of that.

its not "black lives matter" as much as its "black criminals matter" or maybe the group might care about "black lives" murdered by their own. nope. they only get mad at cops killing blacks. beyonce doesnt speak to black people about not killing their own. no songs about that.

what a joke.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

some people? try an entire political party, the mainstream media, & college campuses across america, where you have a better chance being educated by a communist than by a republican.

how is it healthy to have our education system SYSTEMICALLY teach children that the country is MORE racist in 2016 than 1962...how is that happening? How are people with college degrees voting for gender politics during a great recession? bubble thinking?

Trump needs to flush the public education of this this lying cabal.

You act as if Republicans don't brand people as Nazis. I know a ton of conservatives who hate Obama and think he is a Nazi. They brand every democrat a socialist pig.

Also, there are plenty of campuses out there that offer students a good, well-rounded education. The country as a whole is taking a turn to the left so we can expect some of that, but we mostly hear about the extreme cases in places like Berkley which has been the epicenter of liberal thinking for decades.

To me the issue isn't that one party is doing something worse than the other, it is that there is no middle ground anymore. If you disagree with one thing the Republicans say than you are a liberal cuck. If you disagree with one thing the Democrats say then you are are a Trumpette. And if you are an independent or a centrist, both parties see you as part of the problem.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

liberals

Do you beat off to the word 'Liberals'? C'mon tell the truth, this is a safe space
All you do is repeat the word liberals like it's an insult.

This is what you sound like:



Liberals grrrr Liberals

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by bronco67

When someone perceives Obama as a Nazi, you can just assume they don't even understand what a Nazi is, and that they're most likely misinformed.

When a room full of people at an alt-right meeting are yelling "heil" and using the Nazi hand salute...well there's no mistaking that for what it really is. What hairs are there to split over that scene? It's a bunch of fucking Nazis unabashedly acting like Nazis.

The waters are not muddy here. Alt-right should be called what it is...white supremacy. Normalizing their speech is not the direction civilization is supposed to be heading, and Trump's election has seemed to embolden these ugly people. Every news outlet should stop calling them the "alt-right" and call them what they are --- white supremacists, or Nazis. Letting them have this new branding with a harmless sounding moniker is doing exactly what they need to be de-marginalized.

please bronco...point me to the victims of this alt-right movement. where are the beaten minorities, lynched bodies?

there are countless, millions of followers of fake PC racism - calling everything GOP nazi. how many alt-righters are out there, looting neighborhoods like black lives matter. shutting down trump rallies in chicago...did any alt righters shut down a hilary rally? no, because nobody was there.

fuck off with your dumb opinions. your too illiterate to participate.

your one of the PC shit flingers who throws around flimsy race cards.

[kane]

Originally Posted by bronco67

When someone perceives Obama as a Nazi, you can just assume they don't even understand what a Nazi is, and that they're most likely misinformed.

When a room full of people at an alt-right meeting are yelling "heil" and using the Nazi hand salute...well there's no mistaking that for what it really is. What hairs are there to split over that scene? It's a bunch of fucking Nazis unabashedly acting like Nazis.

The waters are not muddy here. Alt-right should be called what it is...white supremacy. Normalizing their speech is not the direction civilization is supposed to be heading, and Trump's election has seemed to embolden these ugly people. Every news outlet should stop calling them the "alt-right" and call them what they are --- white supremacists, or Nazis. Letting them have this new branding with a harmless sounding moniker is doing exactly what they need to be de-marginalized.

Part of the problem is that people only wish to educate themselves to the point that what they learn reinforces what they believe. A lot of conservatives I know think Obama is a Nazi because Hitler was a socialist when it came to many things. So they say, "Hitler was a socialist, Obama is a socialist, therefore Obama is a Nazi." It makes no sense, but it serves their purpose and there is no changing their minds.

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by kane

My position is that the country is pretty racist, but most of that racism is kept under wraps or is subtle. If I had to put it on a scale of 1 to 100 where 1 is not racist and 100 is terrible racism, I would say the US is somewhere in the 60's. I think we have come a long way, but I think there is still a good, pretty strong, undercurrent of racism in this country.

To me, the majority of this racism isn't someone screaming about it in public or a white person attacking a black person (or vice versa) it is small, often subtle things. It is seeing a couple of black guys walking down the street and waiting for them to move on before you cross the street. It is that guy at work who gets along with everyone, but secretly thinks interracial relationships are wrong. It is the cops in a white suburb who pulled my black friend over 6 times within the first 4 weeks of her living there. She was never ticketed, but she lives in a nice, upscale neighborhood and drives a pretty nice car and that made some cops want to check her out. It is a black person (or person of any race) going in for a job interview and not getting it because someone in charge of hiring feels a little "uneasy" about black people. And so on.

One recent thing that has started happening that has done a serious disservice to race relations is how if a person disagrees with someone on some issue, that must mean they are a racist. For example, if you don't support Black Lives Matter, you must be a racist. If you support Trump solely because you thought Hillary was corrupt or because you think he will improve the economy, you must be a racist. If a black person (or someone of any non-white ethnicity) says something and you don't agree with it, you must be a racist. Using a big brush to paint broad racial strokes does nothing to help race relations.

To sum it up, I think there is a lot more racism than some people would like to admit and there is less racism than some people portray or realize.

Racism in America isn't subtle at all, in fact it's the government that's promoting and perpetuating it.

When was the last time that you filled out any one of the tens of thousands of government forms that required personal information?

Was there a single one of those forms that didn't ask you to specify your race?

Why is that information even necessary unless different races get different treatment by the government?

hmmm?

Yet everybody is busy pointing fingers at each other and screaming "RACIST!" while our very own government is separating and cataloging us based on... race.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by kane

You act as if Republicans don't brand people as Nazis. I know a ton of conservatives who hate Obama and think he is a Nazi. They brand every democrat a socialist pig.

Also, there are plenty of campuses out there that offer students a good, well-rounded education. The country as a whole is taking a turn to the left so we can expect some of that, but we mostly hear about the extreme cases in places like Berkley which has been the epicenter of liberal thinking for decades.

To me the issue isn't that one party is doing something worse than the other, it is that there is no middle ground anymore. If you disagree with one thing the Republicans say than you are a liberal cuck. If you disagree with one thing the Democrats say then you are are a Trumpette. And if you are an independent or a centrist, both parties see you as part of the problem.

extreme cases? like the college in massachussetts taking down the american flag? like students destroying flags at brown university, put up to commemorate veterans? they destroyed the flag because it is a symbol of oppession to them. colin kaepernick speaks the same shit, that our country is racist & oppressive. i think what your describing as extreme cases, is turning into mainstream bullshit.

hence the point of my thread, that this perception of a racist country is getting to be believed by too many people.

is this country racist, or not kane? yes or no?

[kane]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

Racism in America isn't subtle at all, in fact it's the government that's promoting and perpetuating it.

When was the last time that you filled out any one of the tens of thousands of government forms that required personal information?

Was there a single one of those forms that didn't ask you to specify your race?

Why is that information even necessary unless different races get different treatment by the government?

hmmm?

Yet everybody is busy pointing fingers at each other and screaming "RACIST!" while our very own government is separating and cataloging us based on... race.

While I agree that the government plays a big role in it, I think most of those race questions on forms are so the government can get a good idea who is using these programs and how they are affecting those people. A lot of those forms offer you the option to opt not to say.

Of course, once they have that information they seem to do very little of value with it.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

extreme cases? like the college in massachussetts taking down the american flag? like students destroying flags at brown university, put up to commemorate veterans? they destroyed the flag because it is a symbol of oppession to them. colin kaepernick speaks the same shit, that our country is racist & oppressive. i think what your describing as extreme cases, is turning into mainstream bullshit.

hence the point of my thread, that this perception of a racist country is getting to be believed by too many people.

is this country racist, or not kane? yes or no?

That flag taking down is one college. That is an extreme case. If it were a rash of colleges across the nation it would be a different thing. There are incidents happening, but they have always been happening we just know more about it now because of social media, the internet, and the 24 hours news cycle.

As for the country being racist. I already answered. On a scale on 1-100 with 100 being the worst, I think the country is about a 60 on the scale.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by kane

My position is that the country is pretty racist, but most of that racism is kept under wraps or is subtle. If I had to put it on a scale of 1 to 100 where 1 is not racist and 100 is terrible racism, I would say the US is somewhere in the 60's. I think we have come a long way, but I think there is still a good, pretty strong, undercurrent of racism in this country.

To me, the majority of this racism isn't someone screaming about it in public or a white person attacking a black person (or vice versa) it is small, often subtle things. It is seeing a couple of black guys walking down the street and waiting for them to move on before you cross the street. It is that guy at work who gets along with everyone, but secretly thinks interracial relationships are wrong. It is the cops in a white suburb who pulled my black friend over 6 times within the first 4 weeks of her living there. She was never ticketed, but she lives in a nice, upscale neighborhood and drives a pretty nice car and that made some cops want to check her out. It is a black person (or person of any race) going in for a job interview and not getting it because someone in charge of hiring feels a little "uneasy" about black people. And so on.

One recent thing that has started happening that has done a serious disservice to race relations is how if a person disagrees with someone on some issue, that must mean they are a racist. For example, if you don't support Black Lives Matter, you must be a racist. If you support Trump solely because you thought Hillary was corrupt or because you think he will improve the economy, you must be a racist. If a black person (or someone of any non-white ethnicity) says something and you don't agree with it, you must be a racist. Using a big brush to paint broad racial strokes does nothing to help race relations.

To sum it up, I think there is a lot more racism than some people would like to admit and there is less racism than some people portray or realize.

you do a fantastic job of portraying moderation, & independent thinking. so i do try to minimize my calling you names.

what your describing as peoples subconsious uneasiness about other races? i call that the stigma of criminality. i know what your saying cause 1 day in the city, 3 black young guys were walking behind me. looked like hoodrats. & i shifted my bag to the opposite side. Then they walked past me & got into their mercedes. I was afraid of rich kids LOL.

its a problem for innocent minorities that other people fear them due to perceptions about crime. It sucks, but targeting the actual problem, black criminals that commit crimes triple the rest of the public, might work to heal that problem. Not fake social justice thats covering for thug life.

as far as im concerned, its 100% on the left that race relations are being hyped into going sour, while on the street, race relations are fine. all this race & women hating bullshit is politics, fear of trump, ginned up by a civil rights "industrial complex"

this left wing PC industrial complex is getting cops murdered, trump supporters beaten & flags burned. where are the victims of the so called alt-right?