1st amendment? What's that? Burn the flag, go to jail says Trump - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

brassmonkey · 11-29-2016, 02:30 PM

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No...that's killing your parents.

fiddy flag burners

Bladewire · 11-29-2016, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

That "piece of cloth" is "the" symbol of our country. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died while serving under that "piece of cloth". That "piece of cloth" is displayed where ever the United States has a presence, on the land, sea, air, and outer space. It is far, far more than just a "piece of cloth". Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.

I think a lot of things legal are disgusting like churches being tax exempt while being legally allowed to discriminate against women.

I love my country and think burning a flag is shitty, but it's legal. Buttfucking is shitty, but it's legal. Raping your wife is shitty, but it's legal.

I think you feel more about the material flag than the rights and history it represents, and your fellow Americans equal rights

If your patriotism makes you a better American than most then you of all people should stand by the American you despise most and defend their rights as your own. This is how Democrats think/act. This is why the vast majority of military voters are registered Democrats

BlackCrayon · 11-29-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

That "piece of cloth" is "the" symbol of our country. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died while serving under that "piece of cloth". That "piece of cloth" is displayed where ever the United States has a presence, on the land, sea, air, and outer space. It is far, far more than just a "piece of cloth". Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.

like you said, its a symbol, its not the country, its not a person. if no one cared when someone wanted to burn a flag, it would lose the power and no one would do it. keep killing people but make sure no one harms an inanimate object that is typically made in china.

Bladewire · 11-29-2016, 02:39 PM

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its just a piece of cloth. i find it strange that its ok to kill a person who trespasses on someones property, ok to abort a living fetus but burn the flag and you go to jail. makes no sense.

Spot on

Steve Rupe · 11-29-2016, 02:39 PM

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I think a lot of things legal are disgusting like churches being tax exempt while being legally allowed to discriminate against women.

I love my country and think burning a flag is shitty, but it's legal. Buttfucking is shitty, but it's legal. Raping your wife is shitty, but it's legal.

I think you feel more about the material flag than the rights and history it represents, and your fellow Americans equal rights

"Buttfucking" is not legal in every state in the union and apparently isn't in 12 states. Raping your wife is not legal in "every" state in the Union. You asked me the question, so I will now ask you the same question, "What country do you live in?" If the answer is the United States then you are very ignorant about American Law. In addition the majority of upper echelon military personnel, as well as career military personnel are Republicans.

bronco67 · 11-29-2016, 02:43 PM

Is he going to be acting this way as the President of the United States of America? he has two months to grow the fuck up.

Bladewire · 11-29-2016, 02:45 PM

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"Buttfucking" is not legal in every state in the union and apparently isn't in 12 states. Raping your wife is not legal in "every" state in the Union. You asked me the question, so I will now ask you the same question, "What country do you live in?" If the answer is the United States then you are very ignorant about American Law.

Damn I've been breaking the law!

I was messing with you about the wife rape, that became illegal in 1979.

I'm American born and bred. I don't think I'm a better American because I don't want a flag burned, but clearly you think it makes you a better man, more of an American than me, a better American. By your same logic with your "knowing the law" comment, lawyers are better Americans than you because they know more about the law

Got me! Just realised you're a troll nick registered last month only posting in political threads e2 posts total. Blocking you

Steve Rupe · 11-29-2016, 02:58 PM

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Damn I've been breaking the law!

I was messing with you about the wife rape, that became illegal in 1979.

I'm American born and bred. I don't think I'm a better American because I don't want a flag burned, but clearly you think it makes you a better man, more of an American than me, a better American. By your same logic with your "knowing the law" comment, lawyers are better Americans than you because they know more about the law

Of course you are assuming that I do not have legal training. I think anyone that burns the Flag are not "patriots". A patriot would never burn the Flag, in my opinion.

Joshua G · 11-29-2016, 05:21 PM

funny to read GFY libs protect free speech when that speech is flag burning.

when it comes to uttering the N word however, its dangerous & must be wiped out.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-29-2016, 06:07 PM

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/491/397

491 U.S. 397

Texas v. Johnson (No. 88-155)

Argued: March 21, 1989

Decided: June 21, 1989

Do you actually expect the US Supreme Court to reverse itself?

sarettah · 11-29-2016, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

That "piece of cloth" is "the" symbol of our country. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died while serving under that "piece of cloth". That "piece of cloth" is displayed where ever the United States has a presence, on the land, sea, air, and outer space. It is far, far more than just a "piece of cloth". Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.

I honorably served in the US Navy for 8 years. My father served before me (WWII). My son is in the Navy now. We all took an oath that among other things included " I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". We all were willing to give our lives to protect YOUR rights, including the right of Free Speech. I had conversations with both my father (while he was alive) and my son about this very issue and we were all in agreement that while we personally would probably never burn a flag we would give our lives to protect your right to burn a flag.

America cannot be destroyed by someone burning a flag. If someone feels strongly enough about how their country is working for them, or not working for them, to express themselves by destroying a symbol of that country than so be it.

Someone disagreeing with what our country is doing is not an enemy of our country. We have the right to seek redress, we have the right to express ourselves, we have the right to disagree with our elected leaders and we have a right to express that disagreement as long as we are doing no physical harm to other people or their property or infringing upon other people's rights.

As was stated earlier, if they don't own the flag that they are burning then they are breaking a different law. If they want to lay out the cash to buy a flag and then just burn it, have at it.

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Steve Rupe · 11-29-2016, 07:27 PM

I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Bladewire · 11-29-2016, 07:29 PM

^^ fake nick ^^

Steve Rupe · 11-29-2016, 07:41 PM

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^^ fake nick ^^

It is my name. Is Bladewire your name? It is a rhetorical question, so no need for you to answer.

sarettah · 11-29-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Question for you. You are lost out in the wilderness, you have a U.S. Flag and a match and a bunch of very large logs. No kindling, no leaves, nothing to use as a fire starter except your flag. If you do not get a fire started you will die. Do you burn the flag or not?

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Just Alex · 11-29-2016, 07:49 PM

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loss of citizenship

And immediate deportation on a cargo plane

ErectMedia · 11-29-2016, 07:50 PM

I don't see the need to burn the flag. Don't like the USA say I don't like the USA and book your ass on a one way flight the fuck out da country. Hell I might even pay for it.

Trump Nation

Steve Rupe · 11-29-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Question for you. You are lost out in the wilderness, you have a U.S. Flag and a match and a bunch of very large logs. No kindling, no leaves, nothing to use as a fire starter except your flag. If you do not get a fire started you will die. Do you burn the flag or not?

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Without hesitation, yes. I am interested in the point that you are going to attempt to make, so carry on please, and make your point.

sarettah · 11-29-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Without hesitation, yes. I am interested in the point that you are going to attempt to make, so carry on please, and make your point.

Just making the point that nothing is sacred.

Also, you stated that "Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.", but apparently it's value is worth less than your life. So, you putting yourself above all the others?

(second point I noticed later, just using that to poke you with..lol)

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ErectMedia · 11-29-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Question for you. You are lost out in the wilderness, you have a U.S. Flag and a match and a bunch of very large logs. No kindling, no leaves, nothing to use as a fire starter except your flag. If you do not get a fire started you will die. Do you burn the flag or not?

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Burn your underwear.

Bladewire · 11-29-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

It is my name. Is Bladewire your name? It is a rhetorical question, so no need for you to answer.

Plaster / Mark you're such a troll you can't even change the way you talk piece of shit

10pm your time here come the drunk posts

sarettah · 11-29-2016, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia

Burn your underwear.

I never wear clothes out in the wilderness. Helps keep the bears away ;p

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TCLGirls · 11-29-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I apparently missed the news report. When was he charged with fraud? More importantly when was he convicted of fraud?

And OJ never killed anyone...

TCLGirls · 11-29-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Ok then, you can put yourself in jail if you burn the flag. As for everyone else, mind your own business.

Steve Rupe · 11-29-2016, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Just making the point that nothing is sacred.

Also, you stated that "Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.", but apparently it's value is worth less than your life. So, you putting yourself above all the others?

(second point I noticed later, just using that to poke you with..lol)

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I was not referring to literal life and death but to living "life".

sarettah · 11-29-2016, 08:45 PM

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I was not referring to literal life and death but to living "life".

Well, okey dokey then.

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2MuchMark · 11-29-2016, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

funny to read GFY libs protect free speech when that speech is flag burning.

when it comes to uttering the N word however, its dangerous & must be wiped out.

Here's your lesson for today.

The Paradox of Free Speech within the Context of White Supremacy -

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2MuchMark · 11-29-2016, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Hi Steve,

I have a question for you: As someone who has served, do you see Flag Burning as an insult to you personally, or to the Military? Or does it depend on the circumstance? Could someone burn the flag to say, protest against the government, but not protest against the American militar? Could a person who has served, and / or, a person who loves their country, still burn the flag for, let's say, a protest against racial discrimination, or perhaps in a protest against oil companies treading on native-owned land?

Rochard · 11-29-2016, 10:37 PM

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^^ fake nick ^^

LOL. Thanks Captain Obvious.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-29-2016, 10:47 PM

You cannot claim your right to law and order while only supporting the laws you agree with. Unless, you are a hypocrite.

As repugnant as they may be to me, KKK and neo-Nazies have rights of free speech and freedom of assembly. By the same constitutional rights -- I have the right to denounce them.

If you don't like the US Constitution and the laws promulgated then adjudicated by the courts -- get the fuck out of my country -- there are plenty of nations with only state authorized expression and assembly that you can choose from.

Coup · 11-29-2016, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Plaster / Mark you're such a troll you can't even change the way you talk piece of shit

10pm your time here come the drunk posts

Nice trolling.

MiamiBoyz · 11-30-2016, 03:20 AM

Joshua G · 11-30-2016, 03:50 AM

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Here's your lesson for today.

The Paradox of Free Speech within the Context of White Supremacy -

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thanks for the lesson in ignorance.

please tell the author that the recipients of the perceived slur HAVE A CHOICE TO DECIDE HOW TO REACT. the assumption that black people have a right to be hostile in the face of a word is a profoundly fake idea.

black people can, & should, choose to ignore it. But the civil rights industry constantly reminds the community of the past & to shackle them permanently into the liberal plantation. This is the keystone to keep black people democrats: fear & ignorance, of a word that should have no power anymore, but the civil rights industry keeps it alive, for power/money/grants from rich libs.

the important thing to understand that it is NURTURE, not NATURE, that makes a community mad at a word. todays black people are not slaves, can vote, can educate themselves via the web now. no excuses to be mad at the word now...

except making blacks hate the word is a jobs program for the social justice movement.

get a clue mark.

Joshua G · 11-30-2016, 04:09 AM

dont libs find it odd...

that the ethnic slurs so liberally traded in the 70s...spick, spook, chink, guke, slopes, wop, guinea, honkey...are totally out of the vocabulary now.

but the big bad N word persists, since its the only word with an entire social justice cause that profits from teaching black children to hate it when white people use it.

but its OK to use it when rapping.

Joshua G · 11-30-2016, 04:15 AM

so liberals. how do your fellow voters in the rust belt think of you dumb libs...when your so vocal about protecting the right to burn old glory...but ban Ben shapiro from giving a conservative speech at a college. Ban milo for insulting the token black ghostbuster on twitter.

interesting free speech interpretation by libs...free speech only when libs agree with it...like burning the US flag is OK, N word, no...

TCLGirls · 11-30-2016, 04:46 AM

^^^ Classic meltdown. Reminds me of someone named Dyna Mo.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-30-2016, 05:44 AM

Go into the Trump Terminal and push the green button.

beerptrol · 11-30-2016, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

so liberals. how do your fellow voters in the rust belt think of you dumb libs...when your so vocal about protecting the right to burn old glory...but ban Ben shapiro from giving a conservative speech at a college. Ban milo for insulting the token black ghostbuster on twitter.

interesting free speech interpretation by libs...free speech only when libs agree with it...like burning the US flag is OK, N word, no...

Amazing how your retarded ass can't understand the difference between the government not being allowed to limit free speech and how companies can limit it. DePaul University is a private university and Twitter is a company

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, ensuring that there is no prohibition on the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.

notinmybackyard · 11-30-2016, 07:52 AM

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Donald Trump: Burn the flag, go to jail - CNNPolitics.com
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celandina · 11-30-2016, 08:45 AM

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The fact is the supreme court disagrees with your opinion.

Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that invalidated prohibitions on desecrating the American flag enforced in 48 of the 50 states.

I am well aware... But wait for the next constitutional ammendment...in 10,9,8,7,.....

2MuchMark · 11-30-2016, 08:52 AM

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thanks for the lesson in ignorance.

please tell the author that the recipients of the perceived slur HAVE A CHOICE TO DECIDE HOW TO REACT.

LOL! Do your own homework, you lazy fuck.

2MuchMark · 11-30-2016, 08:55 AM

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LOL! Do your own homework, you lazy fuck.

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^^^ Classic meltdown. Reminds me of someone named Dyna Mo.

He sucks at hiding his multiple personality disorder, especially when he bumps his own threads with those fake nics.

2MuchMark · 11-30-2016, 08:57 AM

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beerptrol · 11-30-2016, 09:19 AM

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If only they had thought of that before the election.

I doubt he's that smart. And even if he was, is threatening the constitution worth rattling a few cages?

You noticed people are arguing about flag burning mean while

"Donald Trump Names Steven Mnuchin New Treasury Secretary"

He names a former Golden Sachs/Soros banker, you know, part of establishment big banks he rallied against
There are a few threads of Trump supporters bashing Soros, yet have no problem with Trump hiring a former employee of his

Steve Rupe · 11-30-2016, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Hi Steve,

I have a question for you: As someone who has served, do you see Flag Burning as an insult to you personally, or to the Military? Or does it depend on the circumstance? Could someone burn the flag to say, protest against the government, but not protest against the American militar? Could a person who has served, and / or, a person who loves their country, still burn the flag for, let's say, a protest against racial discrimination, or perhaps in a protest against oil companies treading on native-owned land?

My thinking is, desecrating the Flag should have remained against the Law. There are many, many other ways to protest. I have nothing further to say about this subject.

notinmybackyard · 11-30-2016, 10:03 AM

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I'm going to keep posting the photos until you either learn to appreciate the natural beauty of a woman... Or to stop devoting so much energy to American politics.

Seriously it's plainly obvious that you're a really nice guy. BUT you're in the smut game so the only politics you honestly should be concerned about are increasing your collection of DEAD PRESIDENTS and ROYALTY PRINTED ON MONEY.

Personally I don't give a shit if a giant meteor slams into the United States and wipes it off the face of the earth as long as I have a chance to transfer my holdings into another nation.

2MuchMark · 11-30-2016, 10:18 AM

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You noticed people are arguing about flag burning mean while

"Donald Trump Names Steven Mnuchin New Treasury Secretary"

He names a former Golden Sachs/Soros banker, you know, part of establishment big banks he rallied against
There are a few threads of Trump supporters bashing Soros, yet have no problem with Trump hiring a former employee of his

Of course I have a problem with that. I've had problems with everything Trump says or does so far. It's cool that you know who Steven Mnuchin is. What you should do is start a new thread with links to his history and his role in the 2008 financial crisis. Some (former?) US home owners might be really interested to know.

Here, I'll help you get started: Five things you need to know about Steve Mnuchin - BBC News

For all the bitching and moaning that people made about Clinton being in the pocket of big banks, here's Donald Trump, who sits on a fucking toilet made of gold, hiring a Goldman Sacks exec as treasury secretary.

Just insane.

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Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	funny to read GFY libs protect free speech when that speech is flag burning. when it comes to uttering the N word however, its dangerous & must be wiped out.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/491/397 491 U.S. 397 Texas v. Johnson (No. 88-155) Argued: March 21, 1989 Decided: June 21, 1989 Do you actually expect the US Supreme Court to reverse itself?

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Steve Rupe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 3,048	I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	You cannot claim your right to law and order while only supporting the laws you agree with. Unless, you are a hypocrite. As repugnant as they may be to me, KKK and neo-Nazies have rights of free speech and freedom of assembly. By the same constitutional rights -- I have the right to denounce them. If you don't like the US Constitution and the laws promulgated then adjudicated by the courts -- get the fuck out of my country -- there are plenty of nations with only state authorized expression and assembly that you can choose from.

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Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	dont libs find it odd... that the ethnic slurs so liberally traded in the 70s...spick, spook, chink, guke, slopes, wop, guinea, honkey...are totally out of the vocabulary now. but the big bad N word persists, since its the only word with an entire social justice cause that profits from teaching black children to hate it when white people use it. but its OK to use it when rapping.

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Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	so liberals. how do your fellow voters in the rust belt think of you dumb libs...when your so vocal about protecting the right to burn old glory...but ban Ben shapiro from giving a conservative speech at a college. Ban milo for insulting the token black ghostbuster on twitter. interesting free speech interpretation by libs...free speech only when libs agree with it...like burning the US flag is OK, N word, no...

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TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	^^^ Classic meltdown. Reminds me of someone named Dyna Mo.

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