China's Navy seizes American underwater drone

[brassmonkey]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Chinese warship has seized an underwater drone deployed by a U.S. oceanographic vessel in the South China Sea, triggering a formal diplomatic protest and a demand for its return, U.S. officials told Reuters on Friday.

The incident, the first of its kind in recent memory, took place on Dec. 15 about 50 nautical miles northwest of Subic Bay off the Philippines just as the USNS Bowditch, an oceanographic survey ship, was about to retrieve the unmanned, underwater vehicle (UUV), officials said.

"The UUV was lawfully conducting a military survey in the waters of the South China Sea," one official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"It's a sovereign immune vessel, clearly marked in English not to be removed from the water - that it was U.S. property," the official said.

The Pentagon later confirmed the incident at a news briefing. It said the drone used commercially available technology and sold for about $150,000.

Still, the Pentagon viewed China's seizure seriously since it had effectively taken U.S. military property.

"It is ours, and it is clearly marked as ours and we would like it back. And we would like this not to happen again," Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis said.

The seizure by the Chinese Navy will add to concerns about China's growing military presence and aggressive posture in the disputed South China Sea, including its militarization of maritime outposts.

A U.S. think tank this week said new satellite imagery indicated China has installed weapons, including anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems, on all seven artificial islands it has built in the South China Sea.

Mira Rapp-Hooper, a senior fellow in the Asia-Pacific Security Program at the Center for a New American Security, said China would have a hard time explaining its actions.

"This move, if accurately reported, is highly escalatory, and it is hard to see how Beijing will justify it legally," Rapp-Hooper said.

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[Barry-xlovecam]

1,2,3 Postal @therealdonaldtrump?
We'll see -- this is a drill repeat only a drill.

[Bladewire]

Fucking nitpicky Chinese bitches WTF

This is not going to end well for them.

I'd rather drive China back into starvation at this point. Just like Russia, they continually break every agreement to fuck us over.

[Bladewire]

Russia & China making moves while we're weak after an election.

[Bladewire]

Paul Markham what do you think about this?

China's Navy Seizes American Underwater Drone In South China Sea | The Huffington Post

[Barry-xlovecam]

Trump made a calculated move that he knew would piss the PRC off -- disregarding the One-China policy.

So, if this is the only payback -- take a chill-pill and reconsider your options. This wasn't opening negotiations -- this was sucker-punching below the belt from the Chinese point of view.

If China was parading surface fleets, with hostile capabilities, in international waters, off the west coast of the USA: we would be shitting-bricks over it.

The US Navy is doing this in the South China Sea -- that is the way the Chinese see it.

Take 2 steps back and count to 10 ...

[woj]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Trump made a calculated move that he knew would piss the PRC off -- disregarding the One-China policy.

So, if this is the only payback -- take a chill-pill and reconsider your options. This wasn't opening negotiations -- this was sucker-punching below the belt from the Chinese point of view.

If China was parading surface fleets, with hostile capabilities, in international waters, off the west coast of the USA: we would be shitting-bricks over it.

The US Navy is doing this in the South China Sea -- that is the way the Chinese see it.

Take 2 steps back and count to 10 ...

South China Sea is a disputed territory, and since US conducts huge volume of trade in that region it has interest in keeping it as international waters and out of Chinese control... same can't be said about US western coast, China wouldn't have any legitimate interest there...

US presence there shouldn't be viewed as hostility towards China, but more like placing a chess piece in that region to prevent China from expanding...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Trump made a calculated move that he knew would piss the PRC off -- disregarding the One-China policy.

So, if this is the only payback -- take a chill-pill and reconsider your options. This wasn't opening negotiations -- this was sucker-punching below the belt from the Chinese point of view.

If China was parading surface fleets, with hostile capabilities, in international waters, off the west coast of the USA: we would be shitting-bricks over it.

The US Navy is doing this in the South China Sea -- that is the way the Chinese see it.

Take 2 steps back and count to 10 ...

Clinton & Trump were both pro Taiwan so either candidate was going to be facing this, except no filter Trump, like an idiot, took it on before taking office.

For the first time in 9 years we've raised interest rates. The Fed says we're going to raise again 3 times next year. This is based on fake numbers that our economy is so great, the real reason is to devalue the yuan to fuck with China's currency.

Why is China so afraid of US Fed's interest rate increase? | South China Morning Post

I'm glad we're hitiing back hard at China fuck them. I just wish Trump would have waited until he was in power, too late now.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by woj

US presence there shouldn't be viewed as hostility towards China, but more like placing a chess piece in that region to prevent China from expanding...

China stealing the drone is like them pushing us off the playing field saying it's their territory.

[Barry-xlovecam]

woj; the Chinese don't give a fuck what you say ...

If the Chinese park a tank in front of your house and insist they are protecting their trade route to Walmart -- would you object? The Russians feel the same way about militarization close to their western border with Europe.

When Russia placed missiles in Cuba in 1962 what did the US do? You are not being realistic and regurgitating dogma.

Our right, they did -- lets start another conflict? As long as China does not act in aggression in South Asia -- leave them the fuck alone. It's a lose -- lose situation.

[Rochard]

China is flexing it's muscle. This might get interesting.

No worries. Trump will handle this. He'll call them.

[Google Expert]

The Chinese stole something?

Wow, I'm amazed.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

China is flexing it's muscle. This might get interesting.

No worries. Trump will handle this. He'll call them.

Trump will call and invite them to do lunch

Aside: there were 2 drones in the water -- weather drones (unclassified meteorological equipment) the Chinese only took one. Like American Indians counting coup they are just fucking with us.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Trump will call and invite them to do lunch

Aside: there were 2 drones in the water -- weather drones (unclassified meteorological equipment) the Chinese only took one. Like American Indians counting coup they are just fucking with us.

Like flying the nuclear capable bomber over Taiwan earlier this week?

[Barry-xlovecam]

"capable"

We can't win a war with China without paying a very high price. It a lose-lose.

By aggression, I mean actual invasion like how the Imperial Japanese Army invaded Manchuria.

We may need the Chinese to better control the North Korean nut case -- that is in our mutual interest. Taiwan and the PRC tolerate each other -- if the Chinese wanted to take Taiwan they could -- same as Putin took Crimea.

If the Chinese invaded Taiwan do you advocate starting a shooting war with China? We wouldn't and they know it -- it would fuck up the business relationship that has brought prosperity to China. The Chinese lack the will to invade Taiwan for the same reasons. More to lose than to gain.

I am not advocating a Neville Chamberlain Munich Agreement but we have to step back and think.

The issue: Taiwan wants to become a member of the United Nations. However, it lost its seat in that body in 1971, when the U.N. chose to recognize the People's Republic of China instead. There can be only one China in the world, the U.N. decided, and the government in Beijing runs it.Feb 26, 2008

Only a fool picks a fight he cannot win or recover from.

Taiwan could become a semi-autonomous Chinese State like Hong Kong and we all move on. Taiwan is not a bargaining chip in an international trade game

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

"capable"

We can't win a war with China without paying a very high price. It a lose-lose.

By aggression, I mean actual invasion like how the Imperial Japanese Army invaded Manchuria.

We may need the Chinese to better control the North Korean nut case -- that is in our mutual interest. Taiwan and the PRC tolerate each other -- if the Chinese wanted to take Taiwan they could -- same as Putin took Crimea.

If the Chinese invaded Taiwan do you advocate starting a shooting war with China? We wouldn't and they know it -- it would fuck up the business relationship that has brought prosperity to China. The Chinese lack the will to invade Taiwan for the same reasons. More to lose than to gain.

I am not advocating a Neville Chamberlain Munich Agreement but we have to step back and think.



Only a fool picks a fight he cannot win or recover from.

Taiwan could become a semi-autonomous Chinese State like Hong Kong and we all move on. Taiwan is not a bargaining chip in an international trade game

I see it more as trade routes through the South China sea and them having major new influence and control over the Philippines, Vietnam & Malaysia with their new, now militarized, man-made islands.

This is part of the reason Duerte has become so emboldened, the Chinese are his new big time lender and he now wants our bases closed.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Americans do not understand thinking in Southeast Asia -- Indochina.

We have a monument in black granite in the nation's capital with the names of 58,307 dead the last time we thought we could fix the problems in South Asia.

That war was to guarantee the sovereignty of South Vietnam against Vietnamese reunification.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Fucking nitpicky Chinese bitches WTF

This is not going to end well for them.

I'd rather drive China back into starvation at this point. Just like Russia, they continually break every agreement to fuck us over.

USA forgotten what it is international law - today are reminded about it.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Sarn

USA forgotten what it is international law - today are reminded about it.

So Chinese make a mistake, apologize for it, yet somewhere in Russia, in tiny tiny rundown apartment Russian drunk has victory parade going?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sarn

USA forgotten what it is international law - today are reminded about it.

ok red midget

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Americans do not understand thinking in Southeast Asia -- Indochina.

We have a monument in black granite in the nation's capital with the names of 58,307 dead the last time we thought we could fix the problems in South Asia.

That war was to guarantee the sovereignty of South Vietnam against Vietnamese reunification.

We don't need to fix anything, just maintain our status, which is in jeopardy in that reagion with the Chinese militarized man made islands & China outfunding us in the Philippines by the billions:

PH bags $13.5B in deals from China | Inquirer Business

They call it our Asia pivot for a reason:

The Philippines Are Just a Symptom of America's Asia Pivot Problem | The National Interest

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

So Chinese make a mistake, apologize for it, yet somewhere in Russia, in tiny tiny rundown apartment Russian drunk has victory parade going?

> China's Navy seizes American underwater drone
it too mistake

[brassmonkey]

world war 3 will be in 2017. civil unrest will also be in these countries. the governments are way out of wak

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is not going to end well for them.

Are you sure, comrade?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Are you sure, comrade?

i will kill my share fuk them and pooty. my ar 15 will spread peace communist assholes

[beerptrol]

It was a ruse planned by Trump to spread American propaganda. Once the Chinese downloaded the info from the drone they found a video of Joshua G, Grapesoda, Google Expert, nico-t, and special guest Ben Carson

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by Google Expert

The Chinese stole something?

Wow, I'm amazed.

They'll make an exact replica of it

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by oppoten

They'll make an exact replica of it

that made me chuckle and put one in the chamber

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Sarn

> China's Navy seizes American underwater drone
it too mistake

They will give it back. Just like russians, chinese do not have balls to stand up to the strongest military in the world. Too much at stake.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

They will give it back. Just like russians, chinese do not have balls to stand up to the strongest military in the world. Too much at stake.

keep calm and join communism comrade

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Are you sure, comrade?

They look so small and frail, can they see ok? Those skinny arms & legs will break so easy

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

They will give it back. Just like russians, chinese do not have balls to stand up to the strongest military in the world. Too much at stake.

Yeah! You guys kicked so much ass in Vietnam and Korea they must be soiling their britches!

In reality the can make you surrender without firing a bullet...just send 5 million unarmed Chinese civilians to every major us base in Asia and have them surrender...Google China tourists at buffet...now you get to take care of 20 million of them ROR! Fuck you ahahahahahahaa!

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by Google Expert

The Chinese stole something?

Wow, I'm amazed.

Shocking.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Yeah! You guys kicked so much ass in Vietnam and Korea they must be soiling their britches!

In reality the can make you surrender without firing a bullet...just send 5 million unarmed Chinese civilians to every major us base in Asia and have them surrender...Google China tourists at buffet...now you get to take care of 20 million of them ROR! Fuck you ahahahahahahaa!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Bulgarian_War

Serbo-Bulgarian War - Serbs signed unconditional surrender after 6 days of so called "war".. There isn't any other nation ever ever to surrender to Bulgarians.



Here is actual video of Serb negotiating peace with Bulgarians..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Bulgarian_War

Serbo-Bulgarian War - Serbs signed unconditional surrender after 6 days of so called "war".. There isn't any other nation ever ever to surrender to Bulgarians.



Here is actual video of Serb negotiating peace with Bulgarians..

Why you fucking him hard with your big dick bro? what's the history between you two? Haha It's HOT , don't get me wrong

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Fucking nitpicky Chinese bitches WTF

This is not going to end well for them.

I'd rather drive China back into starvation at this point. Just like Russia, they continually break every agreement to fuck us over.

Until your politicians force China to buy as much as they sell to the US and EU. They will gain more power and put it to use. And that will end badly for all of us.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

They look so small and frail, can they see ok? Those skinny arms & legs will break so easy

Seems you have never been to army, comrade. The smaller man is always a smaller target which is actually a very essential thing. Nobody fights with maces anymore. They use assault rifles. Heard something about 'em?

Our lieutenant colonel was training Vietnam soldiers during the Vietnam War. He said they were very small and not physically strong. During joint training accelerated marches in full ammunition, those got quickly exhausted. So Russian officiates just picked them with their ammo and continue running, to do not fuck up the squad's result. Now try to remember who was more effective in Jungle battles and who won that war - cool American rambos, or those small and weak Asians

So there is no place for hand to hand combats in 21st century. But if even it wasn't so, I doubt it would be easy to break those legs...

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Bulgarian_War

Serbo-Bulgarian War - Serbs signed unconditional surrender after 6 days of so called "war".. There isn't any other nation ever ever to surrender to Bulgarians.

dude you need to read the article you posted more carefully try searching for the word surrender it never appears

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Until your politicians force China to buy as much as they sell to the US and EU. They will gain more power and put it to use. And that will end badly for all of us.

pauls logic:

western people will not buy their own uncompetitive goods but opt for made in china shit

BUT

paul thinks china leaders can somehow make their own people buy more uncompetitive western goods

paul and reality are not good friends

[brassmonkey]

bump for communist cleaning

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

bump for communist cleaning

Bernie must go

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Seems you have never been to army, comrade. The smaller man is always a smaller target which is actually a very essential thing. Nobody fights with maces anymore. They use assault rifles. Heard something about 'em?

Our lieutenant colonel was training Vietnam soldiers during the Vietnam War. He said they were very small and not physically strong. During joint training accelerated marches in full ammunition, those got quickly exhausted. So Russian officiates just picked them with their ammo and continue running, to do not fuck up the squad's result. Now try to remember who was more effective in Jungle battles and who won that war - cool American rambos, or those small and weak Asians

So there is no place for hand to hand combats in 21st century. But if even it wasn't so, I doubt it would be easy to break those legs...

Good to know. Such a shame your country has so few Asians.

I'm glad we have such a large Asian population in America and Japanese are our allies

[Lewis11]

This is crazy stuff!

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

dude you need to read the article you posted more carefully try searching for the word surrender it never appears



pauls logic:

western people will not buy their own uncompetitive goods but opt for made in china shit

BUT

paul thinks china leaders can somehow make their own people buy more uncompetitive western goods

paul and reality are not good friends

Serb boy doesn't know his own history. Can't blame him. Cowards lost in every war they fought - Turks, Albanians, Slovenians, Bulgarian, Andorrans, Papua New Guineans..

read summary box, dumb Serb - Result Decisive Bulgarian victory;

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Why you fucking him hard with your big dick bro? what's the history between you two? Haha It's HOT , don't get me wrong

Just my daily reminder to shell shocked serb coward.
I love watching History channel, History Vault, AHC and pretty much any documentaries on World History with my Roku. The other day I did search on "Wars Serbians won".. Got "no matches found". Tried it on the Amazon Prime videos - "no matches found".. Fuck I say.. Went to google and searched again ..
got this gif instead..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

...Papua New Guineans..

read summary box, dumb Serb - Result Decisive Bulgarian victory;

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Just my daily reminder to shell shocked serb coward.
I love watching History channel, History Vault, AHC and pretty much any documentaries on World History with my Roku. The other day I did search on "Wars Serbians won".. Got "no matches found". Tried it on the Amazon Prime videos - "no matches found".. Fuck I say.. Went to google and searched again ..
got this gif instead..

You crack me up!

[LovinNothin]

Until adult humans learn to evolve from our most basic human instinct of "mine, mine, mine" we are doomed as a species.

The constant stride for possession of land, money and control of other human beings, will clearly lead to the extinction of mankind.

We are nothing but old children and haven't learned a single thing.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Good to know. Such a shame your country has so few Asians.

So few? About 75% of Russia is located... in Asia

[Tasty1]

This is great! soon there will be cheap navydrones sold wordwide in every store. They must have copied it and i expect them to be in stores next summer.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

This is great! soon there will be cheap navydrones sold wordwide in every store. They must have copied it and i expect them to be in stores next summer.