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Old 11-01-2017, 03:34 AM   #51
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Vegas was a one time thing.
Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.
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How about looking at the guys mental health instead of stereotyping it in to an religious thing. First I highly doubt ISIS trains people to commit terrorist acts with fake guns, especially in the USA where they are so reliably available.
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I read 4,500 foreign former ISIS fighters are thought to be making their way 'home' most are returning to Europe.

Attacks like these are going to become a more and more of a common occurrence -- for them the war is not over

Sad day indeed.
No one who went to the ME to fight should be allowed back into the West. They obviously prefer the ME so let them settle there. And the Muslims they went to kill will deal with them.
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You mean that Trump could not keep you safe !!!!!!!

Damn ......
No, he was stopped by the Supreme Court. The SJWs can't keep you safe.
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It's saddened me as well. A guy kills 50+ and injures 200+ in a shooting rampage and The NRA and the people taking their money (especially on the right) screams about how we can't talk about gun control right after this happens because it would be disrespectful to the victims, but when a crazy terrorist dude kills people there is no hesitation to turn this into a political debate about who should and should not be banned from coming into the country.
Edited to make it correct. This terrorist had a pellet gun and paint gun.
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Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.
You see, that was an intelligent statement.

Personally, I don't post political shit on Facebook anymore. I do here quite often though. I have had friends who were liberals attack me for calling them out on some of their bullshit. We need to correct people when they are wrong or spreading misinformation. Even when they are people we often times agree with.

It is our duty to come together and work out our differences because we are nothing when we are divided.
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The point is that all/most of these were just crazy people went nuts for random reasons while muslim attacks are all for the same - killing infidels for not being muslim.
It is strange that people do not grasp obvious things like that.

Ps: not saying that those attacks were not terrorism, just explaining the core difference.
Islam is about ruling the World. Mohammed made it very clear that it's the duty of Muslims to dominate the world and other religions have to bend to Islam and pay taxes to exist.

This is what Europe has had to endure from Islam.

Battle of Tours

Muslim Spain (711-1492)

Battle of Vienna

Fall of Constantinople

Ottoman rule in the Balkans

Siege of Jerusalem (636?637)

The very first thing place to be conquered violently by Mohammed. Conquest of Mecca

They worship men who love conquering people from the very beginning. Today's terrorists groups are carrying on the tradition Mohammed started.
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How about looking at the guys mental health instead of stereotyping it in to an religious thing. First I highly doubt ISIS trains people to commit terrorist acts with fake guns, especially in the USA where they are so reliably available.
Good point.
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This is true. It proves Trump isn't going far enough to protect Americans.
i am pretty sure he will build a wall to the border of usbekistan ;-)
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How about looking at the guys mental health instead of stereotyping it in to an religious thing. First I highly doubt ISIS trains people to commit terrorist acts with fake guns, especially in the USA where they are so reliably available.
That is a fair statement, at least the first sentence.
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Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.
when do you guys finally understand one thing:

when the day comes (and BECAUSE of your hate it WILL) when every muslim in this world is throwing a bomb - there is no USA anymore.

you do not need to be scared the nukes of kim anymore because usa will be history.

there are 2 billion muslims on this planet and possibly 1% of them hates us so much that they donīt even care a suicide attack. up to know maybe 0,0001% of them did it.

you guys with all your hate and blindness working hard to bring all 2 billion in that mode.

if that day comes, no wall no nuke, no army and no hate and no trump will help you anymore.

if they would bomb and kill just the ones who are responsable for that hate - fine - i would enjoy to watch that spectacle. but unfortunately in the mode of hate, they will react EXACTLY like you guys and donīt make a difference between the haters and the smarts.
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Not sure it was a terrorist attack. Perhaps just a crazy motherfucker. It's very good that he was not killed and taken alive. I believe they will find a way to make him speak.
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Could it be homegrown or someone from a country Trump wanted to ban?
this would not even be classified as terrorism if big ears were still pres.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly....

58 in vegas, not terror.
8 in NYC, terror.
"Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror, or fear, to achieve a political, religious or ideological aim."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
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Sayfullo Habibullavevic Saipov

People with names like that shouldn't even be allowed in the USA!
Where do you live again ?

What is your nationality ?
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How about we just stop renting trucks to Muslim dudes with beards? Let's start there.

Oh - and sorry "peaceful" Muslims. You cannot control or even speak out against these types of attacks so guess what? You are guilty too, just like every Christian is partly guilty for believing in a religion that can lead someone to blow up an abortion clinic.

We need to STOP religious zealotry no matter what religion we are discussing.
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Ironically, this guy killed 2 Americans and the others were Argentinian tourists.

But anyway, Trump is all upset and reactionary over this event, while WAY more people have been killed recently by crazy Americans (uhhhh, Las Vegas). Why not politicize that fact?
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How about we just stop renting trucks to Muslim dudes with beards? Let's start there.

Oh - and sorry "peaceful" Muslims. You cannot control or even speak out against these types of attacks so guess what? You are guilty too, just like every Christian is partly guilty for believing in a religion that can lead someone to blow up an abortion clinic.

We need to STOP religious zealotry no matter what religion we are discussing.
1) much much more muslims get killed by terrorists than any other group
2) the USA drops 25.000 bombs/year on average...this is pure terrorism no matter how you look at it

so "peaceful" american...why not start with condemning your own bomb dropping?
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Trump is all upset and reactionary over this event, while WAY more people have been killed recently by crazy Americans (uhhhh, Las Vegas). Why not politicize that fact?
Las Vegas was not one crazy person, it was a pro mercenary team. But since you brought up Las Vegas, where 60 people were killed, you should also bring up Chicago, where 60 people are killed every week. Mostly black on black crime. Why not politicize that fact?

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How about we just stop renting trucks to Muslim dudes with beards? Let's start there.

Oh - and sorry "peaceful" Muslims. You cannot control or even speak out against these types of attacks so guess what? You are guilty too, just like every Christian is partly guilty for believing in a religion that can lead someone to blow up an abortion clinic.

We need to STOP religious zealotry no matter what religion we are discussing.
in that case i am 100% with you - but it is not ONLY religion what can create hate on everyone who does not think or look as one self.
all this " we are better, we are wiser, we are the privileged" have to be stopped.
it starts with national bride and ends in brainwashing sects.
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Las Vegas was not one crazy person, it was a pro mercenary team. But since you brought up Las Vegas, where 60 people were killed, you should also bring up Chicago, where 60 people are killed every week. Mostly black on black crime. Why not politicize that fact?

umm what?
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1) much much more muslims get killed by terrorists than any other group
2) the USA drops 25.000 bombs/year on average...this is pure terrorism no matter how you look at it

so "peaceful" american...why not start with condemning your own bomb dropping?
Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.
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Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.
so that means you can understand that kim jong un have the same right to say and do that?

fine - letīs wait who is first.

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Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.
maybe this day will come. why should they not want to kill people who want to nuke them?

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They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.
and WHO do you think is the civilzed one ?

do you really think america is civilized?
an country with the most imprinsioned in the world - a country where even prisons are in private hands doing all to get the "customers" back - a country with the most humicides in the world - a country with most drug addicted people who are drug addicted because they canīt pay for the meds - a country what lives from war and exports war is civilized?

no - itīs not. there ARE civilized people there - and a lot of REALLY nice people - but also people like you and a few others here who are not the majority but they are louder as the majority is. and the loud voices are heard all over the world and THIS is the image of america. and you wonder why america and the western world have so many enemies?
start with yourself to change and you will see that the world will change.
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so that means you can understand that kim jong un have the same right to say and do that?

fine - letīs wait who is first.



maybe this day will come. why should they not want to kill people who want to nuke them?



and WHO do you think is the civilzed one ?

do you really think america is civilized?
an country with the most imprinsioned in the world - a country where even prisons are in private hands doing all to get the "customers" back - a country with the most humicides in the world - a country with most drug addicted people who are drug addicted because they canīt pay for the meds - a country what lives from war and exports war is civilized?

no - itīs not. there ARE civilized people there - and a lot of REALLY nice people - but also people like you and a few others here who are not the majority but they are louder as the majority is. and the loud voices are heard all over the world and THIS is the image of america. and you wonder why america and the western world have so many enemies?
start with yourself to change and you will see that the world will change.
As with most of these arguments you have your head turned around. Stop being backwards. I want to nuke them BECAUSE they have the ideology I described. No one can deny this and even you do not try to. It's fact. Radical Muslims want all Westerners dead and it has ZERO to do with the "reasons" you laid out. Don't believe in Allah and Mo-mo? You must die. End of discussion.

As for crimes WITHIN the US having the most (We're #1! We're #1!) does not mean other "civilized" countries have zero of these crimes. So which country IS "civilized" in your opinion? Chances are they have homicides, prisons and drug problems, too.

MY definition of 'civilized': religious tolerance. Don't kill anyone in the name of your God. That's it really, quite simple! America's "crimes" can be summed up as lust for money and power. We are not bombing the world 'cause Jesus told us to. HUGE difference.

Next.

PS: I am a NEW YORKER. Not simply "American". Another huge difference. And our reputation around the world is stellar.
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Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.
The argument about Muslims and their ability to get along with the rest of the world aside, stop for a minute and really think about what you have said. Do you not see how us bombing an entire region of the planet then stealing its natural resources would turn out very badly for us?

Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.
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As with most of these arguments you have your head turned around. Stop being backwards. I want to nuke them BECAUSE they have the ideology I described. No one can deny this and even you do not try to. It's fact. Radical Muslims want all Westerners dead and it has ZERO to do with the "reasons" you laid out. Don't believe in Allah and Mo-mo? You must die. End of discussion.

As for crimes WITHIN the US having the most (We're #1! We're #1!) does not mean other "civilized" countries have zero of these crimes. So which country IS "civilized" in your opinion? Chances are they have homicides, prisons and drug problems, too.

MY definition of 'civilized': religious tolerance. Don't kill anyone in the name of your God. That's it really, quite simple! America's "crimes" can be summed up as lust for money and power. We are not bombing the world 'cause Jesus told us to. HUGE difference.

Next.

PS: I am a NEW YORKER. Not simply "American". Another huge difference. And our reputation around the world is stellar.
I hear you, but hard to reason with folks like Thommy, he already got it all figured out.
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Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.

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Best solution is to put the advanced world in the situation where it does not need 'their' oil and gas (LNG, LPG) for energy. Then foreign policy will be more objective. This is 10 to 20 years away -- if we work at it seriously and in earnest.

From the 'muzzie' perspective: Over 10,000 (some say 40,000) ISIS maniac soldiers have been liquidated. As direct collateral damage of US led and Russian lead military operations -- 3,000 to 5,000 reported civilian deaths have occurred. So the return damage is maybe 1 for 10? 1 for 50 overall.

You didn't think there would be a sickening retribution?
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Best solution is to put the advanced world in the situation where it does not need 'their' oil and gas (LNG, LPG) for energy. Then foreign policy will be more objective. This is 10 to 20 years away -- if we work at it seriously and in earnest.

From the 'muzzie' perspective: Over 10,000 (some say 40,000) ISIS maniac soldiers have been liquidated. As direct collateral damage of US led and Russian lead military operations -- 3,000 to 5,000 reported civilian deaths have occurred. So the return damage is maybe 1 for 10? 1 for 50 overall.

You didn't think there would be a sickening retribution?
Many of these countries really only have a couple things to offer, oil and natural gas as well as cheap labor. If we can get away from buying their oil and gas that will go a long way towards helping us. The cheap labor fuels them but that will change with time as robots and automation make cheap labor obsolete.

I find myself wondering how they will act once they have even less to offer the world.
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Uzbekistan... A nanny from Uzbekistan has beheaded a little girl in Moscow (don't watch this video if you have a weak heart):



BTW, where the Boston bombers were from?
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MY definition of 'civilized': religious tolerance. Don't kill anyone in the name of your God.
99% of all muslims in the world will agree with you - but you want to kill them.
how much of the 99% will stop to agree with you and in what timeframe?

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thatīs even worse in my eyes because it is not blind believing it is disrespecting human life for money and KNOWING IT.


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PS: I am a NEW YORKER. Not simply "American". Another huge difference. And our reputation around the world is stellar.
another prove that you part people in where they come from and what skin color they have.

i hope you get the chancre one day to get out of new york - yes there IS something outside. new york is not the center of the universe.
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I hear you, but hard to reason with folks like Thommy, he already got it all figured out.
IF i would have your logic you would be right.

the easiest solution would be to simply terminate people like you and the rest of the world could life in freedom.

the problem is that i do NOT have your ant brain and I know that this issue is much too difficult to resolve it or even get it figured out that easy.

if you guys would stop to overestimate your intelligence level (what is far under room temperature) you would know that anyway.
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The argument about Muslims and their ability to get along with the rest of the world aside, stop for a minute and really think about what you have said. Do you not see how us bombing an entire region of the planet then stealing its natural resources would turn out very badly for us?

Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.
My "bomb 'em into the stone age" sentiment was hyperbole, a response to the question am I sad we bomb them so much? Nuking an entire region of the planet is unreasonable (sadly).

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i hope you get the chancre one day to get out of new york - yes there IS something outside. new york is not the center of the universe.
I have traveled all over the world (Europe, Asia, South America) and have seen it all, as have most New Yorkers. This is why NYers are respected around the world above 'Americans'.

I would only like to exterminate the 'bad' Muslims. Can you point them out to me please? Because all I see and hear from the "good" Muslims is silence. Hard to tell them apart.

And YES New York IS the Center of the Universe.
Deal with it - or don't, we don't give a fuck.
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Uzbekistan... A nanny from Uzbekistan has beheaded a little girl in Moscow (don't watch this video if you have a weak heart):



BTW, where the Boston bombers were from?
what you want to prove with that?
are russians free from mentally ill people or is this only a privilege to people from uzbekistan?

this women did not even went to jail in russia. she is in a hospital for mental ill people.
so WHAT is your message?
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Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.
Racist Fuck. Agreed that a lot of muslims are terrorists however you cant just bomb the whole of the middle east because of a few 1000 wackos.
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I have traveled all over the world (Europe, Asia, South America) and have seen it all, as have most New Yorkers. This is why NYers are respected around the world above 'Americans'.
ahhh there is also an "above american supremacist" - so if i understand that correct the New Yorkers are the better americans - did I understand that correct?

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I would only like to exterminate the 'bad' Muslims. Can you point them out to me please? Because all I see and hear from the "good" Muslims is silence. Hard to tell them apart.
ok so do you believe that there are also a few New Yorkers what should be terminated and can YOU point them out for me? or should be better nuke the whole center of the universe?

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Deal with it - or don't, we don't give a fuck.
hitler thought that too.... but he didnīt mean NY.
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Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.


Yes yes let's nuke them because furniture kills more people in Europe than they do..you are an intellectual midget...
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what you want to prove with that?
are russians free from mentally ill people or is this only a privilege to people from uzbekistan?

this women did not even went to jail in russia. she is in a hospital for mental ill people.
so WHAT is your message?
Please leave my homeland out of your petty racist squabbles.
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After a white guy kills so many in Vegas...Let's take a few days and not politicize this



When a brown skinned or muslim does it. it's game on to politicize It. Touting his ban, which will not and would not prevent this....
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Anti-Muslim is not being a racist.

If a white Muslim straps on a bomb and blows himself up or drives a truck over innocent people then I hate him, too. Or Asian, or Latino. I don't care what RACE someone is, I care what people DO. Their actions.

I also care what people believe because that often leads to their actions. IF you can control yourself and keep your actions from hurting other people then I don't care what race, color or religion you are.

And yes - BOMB THE MIDDLE EAST. Arabs hate Jews, Jews hate Palestinians, Christians hate Muslims, Arabs hate everybody, Jews hate everybody, Muslims hate everybody, nobody can get along. The Middle East is the center of the world and it's rotten to the core. Let's wipe it out and start over.

How Biblical.
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she is in a hospital for mental ill people.
so WHAT is your message?
No it is not.
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i am pretty sure he will build a wall to the border of usbekistan ;-)
What a stupid post. He should have far higher restrictions on Muslim countries. What did this guy do for a job that was so needed in the US?
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when do you guys finally understand one thing:

when the day comes (and BECAUSE of your hate it WILL) when every muslim in this world is throwing a bomb - there is no USA anymore.

you do not need to be scared the nukes of kim anymore because usa will be history.

there are 2 billion muslims on this planet and possibly 1% of them hates us so much that they donīt even care a suicide attack. up to know maybe 0,0001% of them did it.

you guys with all your hate and blindness working hard to bring all 2 billion in that mode.

if that day comes, no wall no nuke, no army and no hate and no trump will help you anymore.

if they would bomb and kill just the ones who are responsable for that hate - fine - i would enjoy to watch that spectacle. but unfortunately in the mode of hate, they will react EXACTLY like you guys and donīt make a difference between the haters and the smarts.
So,far they are more determined to kill Muslims, so your point is invalid. Of course keeping them out of the West would be a safer option as you think being nice to them is the only option to minimise the terror attacks.
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Not sure it was a terrorist attack. Perhaps just a crazy motherfucker. It's very good that he was not killed and taken alive. I believe they will find a way to make him speak.
He's in hospital asking for an ISIS flag. What does that tell you?
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Ironically, this guy killed 2 Americans and the others were Argentinian tourists.

But anyway, Trump is all upset and reactionary over this event, while WAY more people have been killed recently by crazy Americans (uhhhh, Las Vegas). Why not politicize that fact?
The death toll of Americans killing Americans is the result of allowing Americans to buy guns. Enforced by the Supreme Court and paid for by the NRA.
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in that case i am 100% with you - but it is not ONLY religion what can create hate on everyone who does not think or look as one self.
all this " we are better, we are wiser, we are the privileged" have to be stopped.
it starts with national bride and ends in brainwashing sects.
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and WHO do you think is the civilzed one ?

do you really think america is civilized?
an country with the most imprinsioned in the world - a country where even prisons are in private hands doing all to get the "customers" back - a country with the most humicides in the world - a country with most drug addicted people who are drug addicted because they canīt pay for the meds - a country what lives from war and exports war is civilized?

no - itīs not. there ARE civilized people there - and a lot of REALLY nice people - but also people like you and a few others here who are not the majority but they are louder as the majority is. and the loud voices are heard all over the world and THIS is the image of america. and you wonder why america and the western world have so many enemies?
start with yourself to change and you will see that the world will change.
I would say parts of America are very uncivilised. But if you go down that route, where would you prefer to live America or under ISIS. There is no third option.

You really did score an own goal with that.
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The argument about Muslims and their ability to get along with the rest of the world aside, stop for a minute and really think about what you have said. Do you not see how us bombing an entire region of the planet then stealing its natural resources would turn out very badly for us?

Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.
Islam commands them to not get along with the rest of the world. Read the Quron.

We would not be bombing them if they did get along with each other. Did we bomb then pre-arming the freedom fighters in Afghanistan? Did they bomb us as soon as we had aided them to expel the Russians?
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