Month subscription or Pay per Video?

[mobstriker]

Hi.

What better for paysite member zone?

1. User buys standard subscription (1month, 3month, 1year) and watch videos in unlimited mode until subscription active.

2. User pays $1+ (any amount). The system transfers money on the account balance. User pays $1 per view one video. User active while his balance > $1

[CurrentlySober]

Both at the same time, because not only will the $1 a pop strike a cord with the most casual of users that really only wants to see ONE PARTICULAR video (and it will save him searching elsewhere for it illegally) but also it will subconsciously sell the FANTASTIC VALUE of paying $30 and being able to watch all of them as often as they like.

I cant say Ive seen a site that offers both at the same time, so I say go ahead, why not - It's a great idea

[ZENRA]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Both at the same time, because not only will the $1 a pop strike a cord with the most casual of users that really only wants to see ONE PARTICULAR video (and it will save him searching elsewhere for it illegally) but also it will subconsciously sell the FANTASTIC VALUE of paying $30 and being able to watch all of them as often as they like.

I cant say Ive seen a site that offers both at the same time, so I say go ahead, why not - It's a great idea

Agreed.

Subscriptions make more sense, but some users *really* just want to watch one certain movie.

[XMaster]

our members pay for each show they want to see (and own forever) but they must load their account with credit pack that up to $49.99 -> The best of both worlds

[mobstriker]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

to see ONE PARTICULAR video

It will be better than 1 day Trial membership for $1 ?

'Pay per Video' - I think about this, because I see that near half of members start with 1 day Trial membership. Most of them have 'Expired' status after Trial ends. Seems to be such users are lost for site. 'Pay per Video' more loyal scheme.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong)

[Sly]

We have a clip store set up for our content as well as paysite.

The amount of people that will spend $100 on a few videos always amazes me.

Different kind of mentality, I would guess. Maybe people afraid of recurring charges?

They seem to be 2 different markets from what I can see.

[Adam X]

Amazing this question is still being asked 20 years later... I was there in '98. Hey I'm old. ;) But dammit we were there. Oh what a time it was.... . . . .

[mobstriker]

Originally Posted by ZENRA

Agreed.

Subscriptions make more sense, but some users *really* just want to watch one certain movie.

I'm not against subscription. But.

How many videos one user can watch per month? In average. How often he can watch? Every day? I mean that paying for watching one video can be not much expensive than $30 per month. If he can watch 2 vids per day the price can be $0.5 per view one video. It's equal $30 subscription.

In this case user can be 'active' for system one month, if he used site every day, and he can be 'active' two or three month, if he watched only 2-3 days in week after work.

I think, we have loyal active user in result.


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[mobstriker]

Originally Posted by Sly

Maybe people afraid of recurring charges?

Imagine, user goes to Starbucks with credit card and finally 'Epic Fail'. This night your credit card pays $30 for next month subscription ))

If serious, You are right. Refunds after Trial proves this.

[mobstriker]

Originally Posted by Adam X

Amazing this question is still being asked 20 years later... I was there in '98. Hey I'm old. ;) But dammit we were there. Oh what a time it was.... . . . .

It was great time! 14,4 dial up modems with sound. Clean lightweight websites. And Yahoo! of course)

Adam, what was the best answer 20 years ago? ))

[ZENRA]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

I'm not against subscription. But.

How many videos one user can watch per month? In average. How often he can watch? Every day? I mean that paying for watching one video can be not much expensive than $30 per month. If he can watch 2 vids per day the price can be $0.5 per view one video. It's equal $30 subscription.

In this case user can be 'active' for system one month, if he used site every day, and he can be 'active' two or three month, if he watched only 2-3 days in week after work.

I think, we have loyal active user in result.

95%+ of our subscribers do not access more than 50GB of content each month. It's probably similar to other paysites; you'll have a few heavy users that you definitely should keep an eye on at the very least, but the majority of users will just log in every so often and watch the smidgen of content that they really want to see.

Another idea to consider is mixing subscriptions and PPS/PPD: perhaps offer a PPS/PPD subscription at like $4.99USD/month where they get a certain % off the normal price of buying movies individually.

[celandina]

It always amazes me all these $1 dollar or $ 4.95 schemes, where are the money unless you have 10,000 + subscribers....have no clue how you guys monetize this.

Unless you steal or license the content ( in either case 100s of sites will have the same stuff). Using a simple formula that the cheapest ONE hour of material is about $ 1000 and up from there.

I am simply baffled as how somebody having 100 + h of content can make any money on these schemes, never mind recovering their investment.

[mobstriker]

Originally Posted by celandina

It always amazes me all these $1 dollar or $ 4.95 schemes, where are the money unless you have 10,000 + subscribers....have no clue how you guys monetize this.

Unless you steal or license the content ( in either case 100s of sites will have the same stuff). Using a simple formula that the cheapest ONE hour of material is about $ 1000 and up from there.

I am simply baffled as how somebody having 100 + h of content can make any money on these schemes, never mind recovering their investment.

$1 PER VIEW ONE VIDEO ~ $30+ PER MONTH

Read again topics please. We didn't talk about cheap schemes.

We talk about this: how to make more loyal customers and what scheme is better.

[mobstriker]

Originally Posted by ZENRA

95%+ of our subscribers do not access more than 50GB of content each month. It's probably similar to other paysites;

Thanks for stat. I supposed something like this.

You have 1.5GB vids?

If so, there are ~30vids/month per user for $30 month subscription OR $1 per view one vid.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

$1 PER VIEW ONE VIDEO ~ $30+ PER MONTH

Read again topics please. We didn't talk about cheap schemes.

We talk about this: how to make more loyal customers and what scheme is better.

You speak in riddles. $ 1 per view is cheap as borscht. Even fucking iTunes charges $ 4.95 as a minimum. Basically you suck and blow all at the same time.

..and you did not answer the fundamental question: Where and how did you get all of these videos you can monetize for a buck? I am not sure where, but am quite sure how !

[ZENRA]

Originally Posted by celandina

It always amazes me all these $1 dollar or $ 4.95 schemes, where are the money unless you have 10,000 + subscribers....have no clue how you guys monetize this.

A lot of sites that have those sub-$5USD trials will almost certainly auto-rebill at the regular 30-day monthly rate (or higher) and some controversially have pre-checked cross-sales. Also factor in that most users are going to sign up in order to access a very small # of images/videos. Very few users (in my experience at least) can be classified as heavy users. Also some sites with trials have them limited to streaming-only, can only access last few updates, can only access first scene of movie, etc.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by ZENRA

A lot of sites that have those sub-$5USD trials will almost certainly auto-rebill at the regular 30-day monthly rate (or higher) and some controversially have pre-checked cross-sales. Also factor in that most users are going to sign up in order to access a very small # of images/videos. Very few users (in my experience at least) can be classified as heavy users. Also some sites with trials have them limited to streaming-only, can only access last few updates, can only access first scene of movie, etc.

Show me some math, not this gibberish ! " I charge a buck to watch video, how many views I have to have to cover the cost of $ 1,000 per hour content ??"

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

Hi.

What better for paysite member zone?

1. User buys standard subscription (1month, 3month, 1year) and watch videos in unlimited mode until subscription active.

2. User pays $1+ (any amount). The system transfers money on the account balance. User pays $1 per view one video. User active while his balance > $1

you can do both if you come to ModelCentro...

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

It will be better than 1 day Trial membership for $1 ?

'Pay per Video' - I think about this, because I see that near half of members start with 1 day Trial membership. Most of them have 'Expired' status after Trial ends. Seems to be such users are lost for site. 'Pay per Video' more loyal scheme.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong)

Everything is content led. If it's not good members will only want a quick view to find out. If it's good and varied members will want a month to enjoy. Asking what payment is best is irrelevant until the quality of the goods is established.

[Grisey]

These are stats from a few sites i push that offer both BUT i was told they are leaning more towards clips sales then updating the members area. AS an affiliate this is the result of that.

June Stats


July Stats: Then was told, they are putting more effort into zips them updating members area


Aug stats to date


The answer should be Both, my traffic to them getting less and less per month because i have nothing to update with and rebills are now dieing but since then started to put more effort into zips sales they have basically stayed the same for the last 2 months.

[Klen]

A bussiness thread on gfy? The fuck, do i see it right? I actually wanted to ask same question as there is certain payment method which does not support subscriptions but it support one time payments, so i was wondering does clip selling model is viable compared to subscription model. And also, would clip selling be faster to make money, since it is not needed to buys tons of content to populate member area.

[PaperstreetWinston]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Both at the same time, because not only will the $1 a pop strike a cord with the most casual of users that really only wants to see ONE PARTICULAR video (and it will save him searching elsewhere for it illegally) but also it will subconsciously sell the FANTASTIC VALUE of paying $30 and being able to watch all of them as often as they like.

I cant say Ive seen a site that offers both at the same time, so I say go ahead, why not - It's a great idea

Agreed with CS.

Offer a trial membership with a couple or so full vids while the rest are only trailers with an option of buying per vid or an option of a monthly to access all full vids.