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$5 submissions · 09-18-2018, 05:23 AM

nico-t · 09-18-2018, 06:32 AM

Another EU success story.

blackmonsters · 09-18-2018, 06:49 AM

So far everything seems to only make the internet work like the rest of the world.

Google copied news articles from the past and published them just as they originally appeared and that was deemed ok.
Now try doing that with a printing press and you will lose big time with copyright law.

It's as if making things digital defeated all copyright laws.

Google images just shits all over any concepts of copyright.
I view all the full images on google and never go to the originating site.

celandina · 09-18-2018, 07:10 AM

It will reduce the thievery and sharing of pirated content...One of better EU decisions....Fuck Youtube and any other tube thieves, big or small

JuicyBunny · 09-18-2018, 07:14 AM

Excellent news.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-18-2018, 07:23 AM

it had to happen sooner or later...google and facebook live off of stealing other peoples shit and hiding behind "user generated content"...

DraX · 09-18-2018, 08:02 AM

*sigh*...

blackmonsters · 09-18-2018, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

Excellent news.

Yeah, people should pay for what they use.

You should try it.

BaldBastard · 09-18-2018, 10:46 AM

If I can be sued 1.6 million for linking to a site.. so can they. And that happened right in the good old US of A.

SpicyM · 09-18-2018, 11:30 AM

Great news

But it's still not definitive.

Quote:

The directive itself still faces a final vote in January 2019 (although experts say it’s unlikely it will be rejected)

SpicyM · 09-18-2018, 11:33 AM

I wonder if this is going to have any impact on tubes. Yes, they might be located outside of EU, but as long as they are accessible from EU, do they have to comply? They should implement blocking for those that don't comply.

overdose · 09-18-2018, 12:23 PM

the fuckery is real... "good luck" to them to enforce any of that... quite impossible

motherfuckers only care about their sales nothing else in this world lol but yall will suck dicks because of that... piracy gave you more customers than you could ever imagine... do you really think that people who wouldn't spend money on your shit anway are not able to jerk off looking at a piece of leaf that just fell off the tree as well? or literally anyone... you are so fucking stupid

mce · 09-18-2018, 12:38 PM

Will this lead to mass IP blocking?

nico-t · 09-18-2018, 12:50 PM

Yea very good news. Because more rules imposed by a dictatorial bureaucracy with unelected officials, who have a great track record of completely destroying societies, economies, countries, democracies, privacy and freedom, is always a good idea right guys?

Stop being so close minded and see the bigger picture, einsteins. This is the 4th reich wanting to control everything and everyone and you're cheering them on.

BaldBastard · 09-18-2018, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

Stop being so close minded and see the bigger picture, einsteins. This is the 4th reich wanting to control everything and everyone and you're cheering them on.

I differ on that, to me that's what's been happening, as criminal's steal original content and profit from it while hiding behind antiquated laws that protect them.

The sooner we have a system of "you host it, you're are liable for it" the better.

All these big company's show in their profit margins is they have more than enough resources to police their own links and content, self, user uploaded or automated.

NewNick · 09-18-2018, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

Yea very good news. Because more rules imposed by a dictatorial bureaucracy with unelected officials, who have a great track record of completely destroying societies, economies, countries, democracies, privacy and freedom, is always a good idea right guys?

Stop being so close minded and see the bigger picture, einsteins. This is the 4th reich wanting to control everything and everyone and you're cheering them on.

I know right, as if the people of Europe wanted 70 years of peace and prosperity, what they really wanted was the constant war and slaughter to continue.

You really are the most frightful halfwit.

nico-t · 09-18-2018, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

I know right, as if the people of Europe wanted 70 years of peace and prosperity, what they really wanted was the constant war and slaughter to continue.

You really are the most frightful halfwit.

Congrats! You're completely clueless about the EU. I know because i have been educating myself about it consistently for years. And judging by your comment, you actually believe the EU was founded the way a sentence in a highschool schoolbook told you.
"We want peace! So here's the EU!"
I wish it was simplistic and happy like that in reality lol... And you dare to call me the halfwit.

onwebcam · 09-18-2018, 04:32 PM

Holy shit, some complete fucking morons in this thread (the usual suspects)... "link tax" not "material use tax"

You can't even link to a goddamn article? Who the fuck comes up with these fucking ideas?

This is the EU taxing "linking" to funnel money to "MSM" because they can't survive any other way..

SpicyM · 09-18-2018, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

The sooner we have a system of "you host it, you're are liable for it" the better.

right

DraX · 09-18-2018, 08:27 PM

I'm far from depressed but some in this thread are surely a big let down. You have no fucking clue what this law will mean to free speech in the long run and how it will actually strengthen big companies positions and affect small businesses negatively.

BUT the biggest fail with a long shot is by the person claiming EU with its existence removed war and the risk of new to happen.

DraX · 09-18-2018, 09:50 PM

Tim Pool comments the law:

JuicyBunny · 09-18-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

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JuicyBunny · 09-18-2018, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

Great news

But it's still not definitive.

Thats the scary part. Its a great direction to head towards but god only knows what they will come up with. We dont need another useless 2257 or DMCA bill.

Look Chang · 09-18-2018, 11:19 PM

Good news, it was time!

overdose · 09-19-2018, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

Yea very good news. Because more rules imposed by a dictatorial bureaucracy with unelected officials, who have a great track record of completely destroying societies, economies, countries, democracies, privacy and freedom, is always a good idea right guys?

Stop being so close minded and see the bigger picture, einsteins. This is the 4th reich wanting to control everything and everyone and you're cheering them on.

Agreed...

ghjghj · 09-19-2018, 12:46 AM

NewNick · 09-19-2018, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

Congrats! You're completely clueless about the EU. I know because i have been educating myself about it consistently for years. And judging by your comment, you actually believe the EU was founded the way a sentence in a highschool schoolbook told you.
"We want peace! So here's the EU!"
I wish it was simplistic and happy like that in reality lol... And you dare to call me the halfwit.

Educating yourself ???

Right. You spout the same hate filled ideology on every subject. You come a very close second to that idiot oppoten in the dogma competition.

The EU is not perfect, no method of governance pleases everyone, but you are commenting on a law to protect copyright by talking about “destroying societies, economis, and countrys”.

Biased much ?

nico-t · 09-19-2018, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Educating yourself ???

Right. You spout the same hate filled ideology on every subject. You come a very close second to that idiot oppoten in the dogma competition.

The EU is not perfect, no method of governance pleases everyone, but you are commenting on a law to protect copyright by talking about “destroying societies, economis, and countrys”.

Biased much ?

Learn to read. I said the track record of the institution imposing this consists of all those destructive things i listed. They have a history, in fact they're founded, to completely get rid of democracy and create a giant police state. So any new rule or law or whatever coming from these downright disgusting people should NEVER be supported.

NewNick · 09-19-2018, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

Learn to read. I said the track record of the institution imposing this consists of all those destructive things i listed. They have a history, in fact they're founded, to completely get rid of democracy and create a giant police state. So any new rule or law or whatever coming from these downright disgusting people should NEVER be supported.

You really do spout some utter tripe.

I look at things with a pragmatic view. Is the law just and sensible, and will it improve the lives of the citizens.

I consider the position, read the law, and then decide what I think.

You dont read. You dont calmly consider the facts or the justification for the new law. You just start shouting.

Like a toddler having a tantrum. Its pathetic.

DraX · 09-19-2018, 05:33 AM

Anyone took the time to watch Tim Pool's view on the article?

SpicyM · 09-19-2018, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX

You have no fucking clue what this law will mean to free speech in the long run and how it will actually strengthen big companies positions and affect small businesses negatively.

Every single thief opposes this with the free speech argument. To them, free speech means they can steal other people's works and use them as their own content. They all believe everything that is published can be shared.

This is not against free speech, you can freely express your views as long as you use your own content. It's really simple as that.

blackmonsters · 09-19-2018, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

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celandina · 09-19-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by overdose

the fuckery is real... "good luck" to them to enforce any of that... quite impossible

motherfuckers only care about their sales nothing else in this world lol but yall will suck dicks because of that... piracy gave you more customers than you could ever imagine... do you really think that people who wouldn't spend money on your shit anway are not able to jerk off looking at a piece of leaf that just fell off the tree as well? or literally anyone... you are so fucking stupid

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celandina · 09-19-2018, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

Yea very good news. Because more rules imposed by a dictatorial bureaucracy with unelected officials, who have a great track record of completely destroying societies, economies, countries, democracies, privacy and freedom, is always a good idea right guys?

Stop being so close minded and see the bigger picture, einsteins. This is the 4th reich wanting to control everything and everyone and you're cheering them on.

I guess you have never produced any content so just talk stupid

celandina · 09-19-2018, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

I differ on that, to me that's what's been happening, as criminal's steal original content and profit from it while hiding behind antiquated laws that protect them.

The sooner we have a system of "you host it, you're are liable for it" the better.

All these big company's show in their profit margins is they have more than enough resources to police their own links and content, self, user uploaded or automated.

Finally somebody got it

celandina · 09-19-2018, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Every single thief opposes this with the free speech argument. To them, free speech means they can steal other people's works and use them as their own content. They all believe everything that is published can be shared.

This is not against free speech, you can freely express your views as long as you use your own content. It's really simple as that.

Another person here got it

ZENRA · 09-19-2018, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Every single thief opposes this with the free speech argument. To them, free speech means they can steal other people's works and use them as their own content. They all believe everything that is published can be shared.

This is not against free speech, you can freely express your views as long as you use your own content. It's really simple as that.

Agreed.

This and the the other measure voted on in the EU recently could be a boon for those who don't run user-submitted content sites.

There's definitely issues that need to be worked out, but unlike SOPA (yes, I know it was for USA, no EU), this may be something that actually can lead to good things. I'm sitting on the sidelines and seeing how this will all play out.

nico-t · 09-19-2018, 01:31 PM

We can debate that law all we want.... The problem here is that it's the EU that imposes it. This is just an institution, NOT the continent of Europe. NOT any democratically elected government of any nation. NOBODY asked for these maffia fucks to rule us.

In Holland 2/3rd of the people voted AGAINST the so called "EU constitution" in 2005, which overrides national law as the EU pleases. Keep in mind it's not a government nor a country nor a continent. These people have NOTHING to do with us.

The result of our vote against their laws? They slapped a new cover and title on it ("The Lisbon Treaty") to disguise it. Then our EU lapdog government still implemented it a while later, when the dus was settled after the referendum to prevent uproar.

So despite 2/3rds of the people who voted against it... it is neatly in place in Holland since 2005 as planned.

THAT is the EU. Their power reaches beyond democracies and national governments. They don't give a shit about what the people want. They do eveything they want anyway. They're a massive malignant cancer tumor casting their shadow over its member countries, making them sicker and sicker until they die.

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

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blackmonsters · 09-20-2018, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

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klinton · 09-20-2018, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

Another EU success story.

there you go, especially for you.

I linked to image of German politician with strange mouth, a mouth that drinks blood of innocent Dutch citizens.

btw i oppose this law and conider it retarded. it was basically created by morons that dont get the idea of what the Internet is and how it was build. it's against Internet's principles and "copyright" has nothing to do with it.

NewNick · 09-20-2018, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

there you go, especially for you.

I linked to image of German politician with strange mouth, a mouth that drinks blood of innocent Dutch citizens.

btw i oppose this law and conider it retarded. it was basically created by morons that dont get the idea of what the Internet is and how it was build. it's against Internet's principles and "copyright" has nothing to do with it.

The internet has principles ?

Funny guy.

klinton · 09-20-2018, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

The internet has principles ?

Funny guy.

ask the guys that invented it...
ask its 90s pioneers :P

NatalieK · 09-20-2018, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overdose

the fuckery is real... "good luck" to them to enforce any of that... quite impossible

motherfuckers only care about their sales nothing else in this world lol but yall will suck dicks because of that... piracy gave you more customers than you could ever imagine... do you really think that people who wouldn't spend money on your shit anway are not able to jerk off looking at a piece of leaf that just fell off the tree as well? or literally anyone... you are so fucking stupid

if it goes ahead, it´s going to effect big businesses more so than small business

NewNick · 09-20-2018, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton

ask the guys that invented it...
ask its 90s pioneers :P

Do these principles stop your content being stolen ?

Do these principles stop lazy talentless criminals from getting fat on the work of others ?

Principles dont pay the rent.

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

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$5 submissions · 09-21-2018, 05:33 PM

unelected lawmaking for the win

askjoe · 09-22-2018, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

google and facebook live off of stealing other peoples shit and hiding behind "user generated content"...

Don´t be evil

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celandina Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11,356	It will reduce the thievery and sharing of pirated content...One of better EU decisions....Fuck Youtube and any other tube thieves, big or small

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	Yea very good news. Because more rules imposed by a dictatorial bureaucracy with unelected officials, who have a great track record of completely destroying societies, economies, countries, democracies, privacy and freedom, is always a good idea right guys? Stop being so close minded and see the bigger picture, einsteins. This is the 4th reich wanting to control everything and everyone and you're cheering them on.

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	We can debate that law all we want.... The problem here is that it's the EU that imposes it. This is just an institution, NOT the continent of Europe. NOT any democratically elected government of any nation. NOBODY asked for these maffia fucks to rule us. In Holland 2/3rd of the people voted AGAINST the so called "EU constitution" in 2005, which overrides national law as the EU pleases. Keep in mind it's not a government nor a country nor a continent. These people have NOTHING to do with us. The result of our vote against their laws? They slapped a new cover and title on it ("The Lisbon Treaty") to disguise it. Then our EU lapdog government still implemented it a while later, when the dus was settled after the referendum to prevent uproar. So despite 2/3rds of the people who voted against it... it is neatly in place in Holland since 2005 as planned. THAT is the EU. Their power reaches beyond democracies and national governments. They don't give a shit about what the people want. They do eveything they want anyway. They're a massive malignant cancer tumor casting their shadow over its member countries, making them sicker and sicker until they die.

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