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gorillaz_ · 02-02-2019, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Another humorous claim of Islam. ... Something that I've heard time and time again from people who know nothing about the Judeo Christian beliefs and have not read the Torah or Old Testament.

Even better is "Gods promise" according to mohammed that the Quran is better... because THIS TIME, Gods word won't be altered because God will protect it... because mohammed said so. After all,,... you know, God couldn't protect the Torah or Old Testament for some reason and allowed it to be altered apparently. I mean, it was after all, the word of God and somehow this all powerful, omnipotent being who created time itself was on a mission to get everyone to praise him and worship him and spread his word (usually for some reason, through reluctant, illiterate and uneducated goat herder) .... but God couldn't just produce a book or tablets or anything himself for all to see and read and God couldn't stop either previous books for being "altered". Then of course mohammed proclaims the Quran (a book which is literally 1/2 about how to murder, enslave and prosecute non believers) to be "the perfect book and unaltered word of God". After all, nothing screams "loving, merciful and forgiving" like marching 700 people out to a ditch and cutting their heads off.

Even funnier is that you guys have absolutely no clue what your own religion is even based on as you've spent ZERO TIME studying the other 2 Abrahamic religions, ...you've just been told time and time again that a delusional pedophile warlord who got a lot wrong in his 1/2 assed references to Judeo Christian stories and the earlier so called "prophets" and then randomly proclaimed everyone else wrong, not him.... cause "God said so". You know, because God said so, to.... you guessed it, mohammed... and we know this cause.... mohammed said so.

And in that, you have the circular logic which is the fundamental basis of Islam.

I am the messenger of God because God said so...
The Quran is Gods word because I say so...
If you have any questions, refer to rule number 1, or risk getting your head sawed off.

CaptainHowdy · 02-02-2019, 02:30 PM

You all just got theologically trolled . . .

AdultKing · 02-02-2019, 02:38 PM

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You all just got theologically trolled . . .

TheSquealer · 02-02-2019, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I guess you missed the part where I spent 10 years in Catholic school, that also had Jews... And we all got along and had to learn Christianity to pass.

Trust me bro, I know a lot more than you (as proven by me destroying every one of your walls of deflective texts) and you have NO IDEA what you're babbling about.

You're an islamophobe. Which is ok. That's your right.

No, you've just randomly proclaimed yourself "winner" and me an "islamophobe" without any debate or being able to refute anything i've said whatsoever... just as before that you randomly proclaimed yourself "winner" and me a "racist" while failing to explain either.

you are 100% full of shit.

i'm not afraid of islam... i'm just honest with myself about what it is and what it demands of its followers, who actively murders men, women and children in crowded public places and even mosques and which book they use to justify it.. and with regards to that book, I am honest about who was telling the story

you're just a feeble minded asshole who has nothing to say other than "you're racist" and "you're an islamophobe" because you're not smart enough to actually argue a point without getting smashed.

you cannot argue at all against the facts that mohammed was a rapist, a liar, a murderer, a thief, a warlord, a slave merchant and a child rapist. in fact, there are many out there offering substantial rewards if you can refute those facts.

TheSquealer · 02-02-2019, 02:48 PM

"We're all Gods children! God is all loving and all merciful and all forgiving and all compassionate... oh, speaking of which, I just bought 3 of Gods children at the Medina slave market the other day"

Uh huh......

TheSquealer · 02-02-2019, 02:53 PM

At least the devout Muslims in Saudi Arabia finally outlawed slavery..... in the 1940s.

aimike · 02-02-2019, 03:10 PM

Ok I'll help you understand.

I was always anti religious all my life.. Pretty hardcore anti religious...

Then something happened in my life where I needed something to happen that was impossible for me to make happen through my own means...

so I just prayed for it... for a while..

and it happened... coincidence? maybe... But all I know is that I prayed for a very specific thing that was out of my control... and I got it.

so at that point.. I chose to believe.. Not hurting me any to believe..

But it might be hurting you if you don't.

gorillaz_ · 02-02-2019, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aimike

Ok I'll help you understand.

I was always anti religious all my life.. Pretty hardcore anti religious...

Then something happened in my life where I needed something to happen that was impossible for me to make happen through my own means...

so I just prayed for it... for a while..

and it happened... coincidence? maybe... But all I know is that I prayed for a very specific thing that was out of my control... and I got it.

so at that point.. I chose to believe.. Not hurting me any to believe..

But it might be hurting you if you don't.

curious , which religion you were born into ?

King Mark · 02-02-2019, 03:51 PM

Muhammad was human. He made MANY mistakes. Quran doesn't say do as Muhmmad did, Quran says do what God says. There is no quranic verse you can point to that say "rape, kill, etc". All you can. Do is point to "he say she say" secondary sources proven in the Islamic world to be full of fraudlent statements and to be approached with caution. Those are called hadiths, and different sects of Islamic has different sets of Hadith collections, etc. They are just stories.

-The official Islamic punishment for rape is death

-Lying is prohibited in islam

-the punishment for stealing in Islam is getting your hand cut off

-you guys equate slavery in Islam to that barbaric shit authorized in Christianity. Reality is, Islamic slavery is the equivalent of mordern prisoners. Every country has prisoners lol. Sauce: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/94840/islam-and-slavery

-as far as being a warlard, what are you? A hippy now?

-as far as the fucking the kids thing, all 3 abrahamic religions allow it. Don't make me post the Bible verses. I'm trying to be civil lol. Difference is Islam says "follow the law of the land you live in". If it's 18 where you live, it is against Islam to break that law. Not for christians and such tho, who make up the vast majority of child molesters on the planet.

...etc, etc.

Just admit, you're an islamophobe. BTW, it is Haram for me to deal with pork (squealers) so, I ask Allah for forgiveness and I'm out :-)

TheSquealer · 02-02-2019, 04:07 PM

all religions are "just stories" you brainless twit. You are aware that the books were written by men right? God for some reason didn't bother to create a publishing house and just left it all up to illiterate, uneducated goat herders to figure out.

Strange way to "spread a message" of such vital importance... 14 to 30 centuries later 3 Abrahamic religions are still trying. God created the earth in 7 days but couldn't send a simple message to more than one person at a time, more than a dozen times in 1400-3000 years. Maybe God is just shy? But then again, he doesn't mind burning entire cities to the ground or killing every man woman and child in a city to make a point. So many odd contradictions.... then punishing those who never heard the message to begin with.

in Islam, both the Quran and "these stories" are used to justify mass murder, killing innocent women and children, slave trades, sex slaves, child brides, pedophilia, lying and cheating etc etc etc.

And not that it matters because you're just going to talk in circles... I don't defend any religion and their heinous past. I don't defend Christianity. That's all you and the typical irrelevant "whataboutism" response which is all you're left with.
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What one religion did has absolutely nothing to do with excusing and summarily dismissing the obviously heinous acts of another.

Just the fact that Islam could condone slavery and modern Muslims dismiss it cause "everyone was doing it" should be a red light to any person with common sense. At least Christianity had the fucking sense to create a new "messiah" and an updated message which corrected a lot of this stupidity and obvious logical contradictions. Islam came along and doubled down on the fire and brimstone, eye for an eye, God is a vengeful God ,... based on "revelations" which mostly served to enrich mohammed and his inner circle.

King Mark · 02-02-2019, 04:13 PM

For anybody truely interested in the Quran tho ,whether interested in real Islam or just want to actually know what they're talking about when debating against a Muslim, here's some cool shit you'll find out:

-the Quran accurately describes the speed of light

-accurately describes the blurred vision and nausia of space travel

-accurately describes the missing pieces of the Bible only recently discovered

-accurately describes the known scientific age of the universe

-accurately describes human embryos and how they form

-accurately describes the different parts of the human brain and their function

-accurately describes evolution, what the sun is made of, atoms, plantary orbits, tectonic plates, etc etc etc.... I can go on forever.

This is 1400 years ago. What islamophobes called Muslims crazy for, all turned out to be scientifically proven lol.

That's something to think about.

P_RABID · 02-02-2019, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It's always amazed me why anyone needs religion. Is it to be a better person, they believe in god or like the sense of community it gives them, Dead Eye is a Muslim, somemust be Christians, maybe even Mormons, Hindus, Buddhists, even Scientologists.

Why do you need religion?

To help us give you a better answer, what is your exact race/ethnicity so we can get a better understanding of what angle your are coming from for this thread.

Race/Ethnicity Example - Italian, french, German, Chinese, Israeli, Spanish, British - by descent

aimike · 02-03-2019, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillaz_

curious , which religion you were born into ?

Roman Catholic.

lmfao irl · 02-03-2019, 02:11 AM

I personally am religious because I am a god of my own reality you feel me

Thoughts you project, manifest into reality because humans can bend spoons and don't even realize it.

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

simply because they are on your education level or even lower.

Agreed. So why do you want more of these people to mix in our community? After all you so multiculturalism works.

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again you show that you are just a troll with no knowledge of anything you are talking about.

this conflict has to do with EDUCATION and human rights.

the rohingyia have lived there for thousands of years and the united nations classifies them as the "most persecuted minority in the world".

according to the 1982 citizenship act, the rohingya are not considered one of the 135 (!!!) indigenous population groups (even when they lived there since thousands of years) and are therefore not entitled to myanmar citizenship.
as stateless persons, they have no rights whatsoever. They therefore have no opportunity to attend school, are not allowed to move freely within the country and are not free to choose their profession or spouse.

are you really wondering why this people are starting to fight for their rights?
but because they are muslim it is fucking easy to declare them terrorists because brainwashed uneducated with a voting right like you will believe it.

they will be used as a new example of how bad islam is even when this conflict there have NOTHING to do with religion.

I saked if Buddhists are currently killing people in Myanmar. You then troll us with great reasons why they are killing. Are you denying the fact I gave or givingus the reasons and agreeing with me?

https://www.google.com/search?ei=t7J...iz.BO1xCnSIaZk

This will show my original statement is correct.

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

The Bible has been tampered with by people like you.

The quran hasn't. And guess what the Quran tells us about how the earth was created?

https://www.whyislam.org/on-faith/th...ern-science-3/

Next...

I prefer to read the Quran for my views on what it says.

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Creation of Adam & Eve

While Islam recognizes the general idea of the development of life in stages, over a period of time, human beings are considered as a special act of creation. Islam teaches that human beings are a unique life form that was created by Allah in a special way, with unique gifts and abilities unlike any other: a soul and conscience, knowledge, and free will. In short, Muslims do not believe that human beings randomly evolved from apes. The life of human beings began with the creation of two people, a male and a female named Adam and Hawwa (Eve).

The Qur'an describes how Allah created Adam: "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape..." (15:26). And, "He began the creation of man from clay, and made his progeny from a quintessence of fluid" (32:7-8). Thus, human beings have a fundamental attachment to the earth.

While the creation of Eve is not described in detail, the Qur'an does make it clear that a "mate" was created with Adam, from the same nature and soul. "It is He Who created you from a single person, and made his mate of like nature, in order that he might dwell with her in love" (7:189). She is not mentioned by name in the Qur'an, but in Islamic tradition she is known as "Hawwa" (Eve).

From these two individuals, generations of human beings have inhabited the earth. "Oh humankind! We created you from a single pair of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honored among you in the sight of Allah is the who is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)" (49:13).
Excerpted and adapted from: Creation of the Universe

Clearly the views of primitive Man.

Also this is interesting.

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“Seeking knowledge is compulsory on every Muslim.”

“wisdom is the lost property of the believer.”

“whoever follows a path seeking knowledge, Allah will make his path to paradise easy.”

So why laws on blasphemy because people reach different conclusions to Muslims?

Why did it take so many tries for an omnipotent being to create Homo Sapiens?

Why were Homo Sapiens created so long after the creation of the Earth, when dinosaurs evolved into birds, sharks, crocodiles and other creatures have been on Earth for 100s of millions years?

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 02:37 AM

https://www.islamicity.org/8028/the-...lahs-creation/

""...(Such is) the artistry of Allah, Who disposes of all things in perfect order."

Evolution proves that perfect order is not the way evolution works.

pimpmaster9000 · 02-03-2019, 02:48 AM

pauls ability to learn anything is demonstrated by his photography...dude failed at pressing a button

paul should open a youtube channel for entertainment..."1 minute alzheimers expert on any subject"...you give him a complex subject he knows shit about (any subject really) and he googles for an answer and gets confused

paul has the magic ability to skip decades of research other scholars spend on a specific subject and just "google it"

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I guess you missed the part where I spent 10 years in Catholic school, that also had Jews... And we all got along and had to learn Christianity to pass.

Trust me bro, I know a lot more than you (as proven by me destroying every one of your walls of deflective texts) and you have NO IDEA what you're babbling about.

You're an islamophobe. Which is ok. That's your right.

Explain why god allowed so many Humans to exist before exposing himself?

And why he needed so many tries at getting it right.

Surely this thows out the window the idea of creation by ""...(Such is) the artistry of Allah, Who disposes of all things in perfect order." And I've only included the Humanoid species, the examples across the animal kingdom are so many Evolution can't be denied.

AdultKing · 02-03-2019, 02:56 AM

Why are you even here Paul? What purpose do you serve on this forum?

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Muhammad was human. He made MANY mistakes. Quran doesn't say do as Muhmmad did, Quran says do what God says. There is no quranic verse you can point to that say "rape, kill, etc". All you can. Do is point to "he say she say" secondary sources proven in the Islamic world to be full of fraudlent statements and to be approached with caution. Those are called hadiths, and different sects of Islamic has different sets of Hadith collections, etc. They are just stories.

So an imperfect man reveals the perfect text? Doesn't that send up red flags to you?

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/7233...-crime-of-rape Gives rapist excuses for raping victims. Being out alone, at home, not dressing properly.

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The punishment for rape in Islam is same as the punishment for zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

Why is a married rapist not given the same punishment as an unmarried one.

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-you guys equate slavery in Islam to that barbaric shit authorized in Christianity. Reality is, Islamic slavery is the equivalent of mordern prisoners. Every country has prisoners lol. Sauce: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/94840/islam-and-slavery

Prisoners a=have committed a crime. Slaves haven't.

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-as far as being a warlard, what are you? A hippy now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita...er_of_Muhammad

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The military career of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, lasted for the final ten years of his life, from 622 to 632. After he and his small fellowship were pushed out of the holy trading town of Mecca, controlled by the powerful Quraish tribe, he started an insurgency harassing Meccan caravans.

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-as far as the fucking the kids thing, all 3 abrahamic religions allow it. Don't make me post the Bible verses. I'm trying to be civil lol. Difference is Islam says "follow the law of the land you live in". If it's 18 where you live, it is against Islam to break that law. Not for christians and such tho, who make up the vast majority of child molesters on the planet.

So why do so many Muslims in the West want to be ruled by Sharia law?

Why are so many Muslims raping under age girls in Britain? Saying the Quran isn't for bending and having so many failings shows you're wrong.

pimpmaster9000 · 02-03-2019, 03:27 AM

why are so many catholic priests butt fucking young boys?

why are jewish rabbies biting babies dicks off?

*tons of random bullshit links nobody will ever click on*

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

For anybody truely interested in the Quran tho ,whether interested in real Islam or just want to actually know what they're talking about when debating against a Muslim, here's some cool shit you'll find out:

-the Quran accurately describes the speed of light

-accurately describes the blurred vision and nausia of space travel

-accurately describes the missing pieces of the Bible only recently discovered

-accurately describes the known scientific age of the universe

-accurately describes human embryos and how they form

-accurately describes the different parts of the human brain and their function

-accurately describes evolution, what the sun is made of, atoms, plantary orbits, tectonic plates, etc etc etc.... I can go on forever.

This is 1400 years ago. What islamophobes called Muslims crazy for, all turned out to be scientifically proven lol.

That's something to think about.

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Speed of Light = 12000 Lunar Orbits/Earth Day

1400 years ago it was stated in the Quran (Koran, the book of Islam) that angels travel in one day the same distance that the moon travels in 1000 lunar years, that is, 12000 Lunar Orbits / Earth Day. When the geocentric frame is inertial 12000 Lunar Orbits / Earth Day turned out to be the known speed of light!

What are angels? This again shows you're wrong about the Quran not being changed as knowledge grows.

https://classroom.synonym.com/origin...uran-6278.html This is 100% wrong. Humanoids existed before and alongside Homo Sapiens.

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The Quran also states that human life on Earth began with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, a belief shared with the Christian and Jewish faiths. In Islam, every act of creation – whether that of the universe as a whole or human life – is considered a confirmation of the power of Allah

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Islam https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth#Islam

Islam, as per the Quran says that the Earth was created in 6 days by Allah,[10]. However it should be noted here that the word yaom which is literally translated as "days" have different spans of time, as in time is not of a fixed unit but that it stretches and compresses as Allah wills.[11]. This is evident when in one verse a "day" is equated to "fifty thousand years"[12] while in another verse a "day" is "one thousand years" [13] Hence, Muslims in general believe that the word "yaom" indicates a long period of time, the measure of which is unknown,[14]. Many people wrongly assume that Islam refers to the same story as Christianity does, that earth is 6000 years old. However, Muslims do not believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Islam does not specify how long it has been since the creation of the Earth [15] therefore the age of the Earth is left ambiguous.

This doesn't say how old the Earth and universe is. It says they didn't know.

Scientifically proven isn't not knowing. The Quran isn't a book scientists go to for facts.

thommy · 02-03-2019, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So an imperfect man reveals the perfect text? Doesn't that send up red flags to you?

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/7233...-crime-of-rape Gives rapist excuses for raping victims. Being out alone, at home, not dressing properly.

Why is a married rapist not given the same punishment as an unmarried one.

Prisoners a=have committed a crime. Slaves haven't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita...er_of_Muhammad

So why do so many Muslims in the West want to be ruled by Sharia law?

Why are so many Muslims raping under age girls in Britain? Saying the Quran isn't for bending and having so many failings shows you're wrong.

i will really never understand why a man in your age have never learned in his life that you will never get any answer if you see things from your point of view.

one of the most important gifts that evolution has given man is empathy.

without empathy we would not exist today on this planet because we would have exterminated each other long ago.

empathy is the instrument that makes us understand things that are strange to us. empathy makes us help each other and it is this apparent selflessness that ultimately brings us the greatest progress.

empathy is not characterized by the fact that an empathetic person understands another empathetic person but it does not require any counter-empathy at all and thus creates it.

instead of thinking about sense and nonsense of religions you should try to deal with them and ask yourself the question why.
then you would also find out that religion also has logical and helpful aspects that have secured our survival in the millennia of human history.

and yes there are still many uneducated people today (you are one of them) who can be impressed with divine and supernatural things and can even be made to think.

i will tell you an example that impressed me deeply and changed my opinion about freedom, equality and democracy in a certain way.

as you know i live a large part of my time in thailand and like every country thailand has its sunny sides and its shady sides.
for me, one of these shadow sides was the garbage, the air pollution and the desiinterest of the population in these issues. thais don't sit down with it because they don't think they can change anything anyway.

10 years ago the environmental movement here consisted of a handful of activists who didn't listen.
they tried to make people realize that it's better to use public transport or bicycles instead of smog in bangkok by standing in traffic jams for hours - without any result.

then a smart guy a few years ago came up with the idea of doing the "bike for dad" campaign, which simply consisted of the announcement that you should honour the king by doing without motorcycles and cars for a day and riding your bike instead.

shortly after the call there were no more bicycles to buy in thailand. you had to order them from china, india and europe and on the "bike for dad"-day you couldn't see a car on the streets of banok. only millions of thais on bicycles with yellow t-shirts waving laughing at each other.

since that day thailand has changed.
today no one throws a plastic bottle on the floor anymore - you collect it and win crude oil again.
the supermarkets no longer give plastic bags for free - air measurement systems are installed, the import of plastic waste from europe and the USA has been stopped, electric cars are not only subsidised here - they are built here.
solar systems that were almost impossible to find before are increasingly being seen on all new buildings, and people are talking about the environmental problems they have been turning a blind eye to for many years.

and all this because of a cult to a king, which the thais follow unconditionally.

why do you think eat muslim no pork?
why do you think they have to pray 5 times a day and wash their hands and feet every time?
which hygienic problem of slaughtering has caused schaechten and halal?

you should ask yourself why, then many things would not make you so angry anymore just because you don't understand.

maybe you would come to a point where you recognize the problem by its true root - because that means education. and we created this problem.

first of all british, french, israelis, spanish and americans have to grab their noses before they blame others.
we now pay the bill that has accumulated in hundreds of years.

AdultKing · 02-03-2019, 04:03 AM

Can someone go to Brno and take Paul's keyboard?

MaDalton · 02-03-2019, 05:15 AM

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Can someone go to Brno and take Paul's keyboard?

AdultKing · 02-03-2019, 05:23 AM

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Well played

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

i will really never understand why a man in your age have never learned in his life that you will never get any answer if you see things from your point of view.

one of the most important gifts that evolution has given man is empathy.

without empathy we would not exist today on this planet because we would have exterminated each other long ago.

empathy is the instrument that makes us understand things that are strange to us. empathy makes us help each other and it is this apparent selflessness that ultimately brings us the greatest progress.

empathy is not characterized by the fact that an empathetic person understands another empathetic person but it does not require any counter-empathy at all and thus creates it.

instead of thinking about sense and nonsense of religions you should try to deal with them and ask yourself the question why.
then you would also find out that religion also has logical and helpful aspects that have secured our survival in the millennia of human history.

and yes there are still many uneducated people today (you are one of them) who can be impressed with divine and supernatural things and can even be made to think.

i will tell you an example that impressed me deeply and changed my opinion about freedom, equality and democracy in a certain way.

as you know i live a large part of my time in thailand and like every country thailand has its sunny sides and its shady sides.
for me, one of these shadow sides was the garbage, the air pollution and the desiinterest of the population in these issues. thais don't sit down with it because they don't think they can change anything anyway.

10 years ago the environmental movement here consisted of a handful of activists who didn't listen.
they tried to make people realize that it's better to use public transport or bicycles instead of smog in bangkok by standing in traffic jams for hours - without any result.

then a smart guy a few years ago came up with the idea of doing the "bike for dad" campaign, which simply consisted of the announcement that you should honour the king by doing without motorcycles and cars for a day and riding your bike instead.

shortly after the call there were no more bicycles to buy in thailand. you had to order them from china, india and europe and on the "bike for dad"-day you couldn't see a car on the streets of banok. only millions of thais on bicycles with yellow t-shirts waving laughing at each other.

since that day thailand has changed.
today no one throws a plastic bottle on the floor anymore - you collect it and win crude oil again.
the supermarkets no longer give plastic bags for free - air measurement systems are installed, the import of plastic waste from europe and the USA has been stopped, electric cars are not only subsidised here - they are built here.
solar systems that were almost impossible to find before are increasingly being seen on all new buildings, and people are talking about the environmental problems they have been turning a blind eye to for many years.

and all this because of a cult to a king, which the thais follow unconditionally.

why do you think eat muslim no pork?
why do you think they have to pray 5 times a day and wash their hands and feet every time?
which hygienic problem of slaughtering has caused schaechten and halal?

you should ask yourself why, then many things would not make you so angry anymore just because you don't understand.

maybe you would come to a point where you recognize the problem by its true root - because that means education. and we created this problem.

first of all british, french, israelis, spanish and americans have to grab their noses before they blame others.
we now pay the bill that has accumulated in hundreds of years.

You quote my response to Dead Eye, which is about Islam. Let others start quoting about Judaism, Christianity etc, for my responses to those religions.

As for we now pay the bill, I will use Dead Eyes answer and say the bad people weren't me.

I see you've dropped the nonsense about Buddhists killing people.

thommy · 02-03-2019, 07:36 AM

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You quote my response to Dead Eye, which is about Islam. Let others start quoting about Judaism, Christianity etc, for my responses to those religions.

the point is that you know a fuck about ANY religion.
you just copy and paste phrases from your stupid sources.

did you ever read the quaran, the thoram the kaballa, the bible, the sutras, mahavastu or the scripts from the dalai lama?

i did and i am NOT religious !

but i found in each one something what i can use for my life.

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As for we now pay the bill, I will use Dead Eyes answer and say the bad people weren't me.

so let us collect some really bad things brits have done and let´s agree that all of them are exactly like this.

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I see you've dropped the nonsense about Buddhists killing people.

i did not - i explained you that malaysians are killing rohingya. but as so many things you don´t understand that either.

brains that don't have room for complex things tend to generalize.
you can see this in many animal species and unfortunately also in many people.

Paul Markham · 02-03-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

the point is that you know a fuck about ANY religion.
you just copy and paste phrases from your stupid sources.

did you ever read the quaran, the thoram the kaballa, the bible, the sutras, mahavastu or the scripts from the dalai lama?

i did and i am NOT religious !

but i found in each one something what i can use for my life.

Thereare many things in the bible I use. But I don't need the bible to make me abetter person.

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so let us collect some really bad things brits have done and let´s agree that all of them are exactly like this.

No one has ever claimed the Brits are the Nationof Peace.

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i did not - i explained you that malaysians are killing rohingya. but as so many things you don´t understand that either.

brains that don't have room for complex things tend to generalize.
you can see this in many animal species and unfortunately also in many people.

What religion are those Malaysians and why are they allowed to travel to Myanmar to kill people?

Or are you just trolling by moving the goal posts?

King Mark · 02-03-2019, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

the point is that you know a fuck about ANY religion.
you just copy and paste phrases from your stupid sources.

did you ever read the quaran, the thoram the kaballa, the bible, the sutras, mahavastu or the scripts from the dalai lama?

i did and i am NOT religious !

but i found in each one something what i can use for my life.

so let us collect some really bad things brits have done and let´s agree that all of them are exactly like this.

i did not - i explained you that malaysians are killing rohingya. but as so many things you don´t understand that either.

brains that don't have room for complex things tend to generalize.
you can see this in many animal species and unfortunately also in many people.

It doesn't matter when muzzies get exterminated by Buddhists, evicted by zionists from their own homes, invaded because of lies, etc.

The only thing that matters is when muzzies fight back. How dare they.

Paul has probably never heard of the rohingja, which is odd because unlike the Jewish Holocaust, this one is happening now and theres plenty of undisputable footage lol.

Them damn muzzies tho.

thommy · 02-03-2019, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Thereare many things in the bible I use. But I don't need the bible to make me abetter person.

but as you know it is from the bible it seems you know at least some parts of it.
and that means that you have been religious sometime in the past.

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No one has ever claimed the Brits are the Nationof Peace.

than let´s jail them to their island.
all of them - no matter if they are good or bad.

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What religion are those Malaysians and why are they allowed to travel to Myanmar to kill people?

Or are you just trolling by moving the goal posts?

you know that typing mistakes can happen?

but that doe not change the fact that here are not religions against religions.
here. ethnic cleansing is taking place here. neither in the name of buddha nor in the name of allah.

newB · 02-03-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I don't need the bible to make me abetter person.

Maybe, but you certainly need something.

Bladewire · 02-03-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by newB

Maybe, but you certainly need something.

BOOM!

King Mark · 02-03-2019, 11:21 AM

What he needed was better oral hygeine. Too late now tho.

huey · 02-03-2019, 08:46 PM

lol the crazy Mormon and scientology shit seems more believable then the bible or the Quran. Fucking sheep.

Paul Markham · 02-04-2019, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

It doesn't matter when muzzies get exterminated by Buddhists, evicted by zionists from their own homes, invaded because of lies, etc.

The only thing that matters is when muzzies fight back. How dare they.

Paul has probably never heard of the rohingja, which is odd because unlike the Jewish Holocaust, this one is happening now and theres plenty of undisputable footage lol.

Them damn muzzies tho.

Israel evicting Muslims is a crime against humanity, so is Muslims killing Muslims, Jews and Christians, Germans killing millions, Turks killing Armenians, Buddhists killing Muslims, Serbian killing Muslims, Africans killing Africans, Americans killing Indians, etc. The list is very long. History can't be changed but we can learn from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_death_toll

But we don't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...Eastern_Europe

Today people are trying to kill their neighbours, some because of their religion.

Paul Markham · 02-04-2019, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

but as you know it is from the bible it seems you know at least some parts of it.
and that means that you have been religious sometime in the past.

Never been religious, but I needed to know why. So studied a lot.

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you know that typing mistakes can happen?

but that doe not change the fact that here are not religions against religions.
here. ethnic cleansing is taking place here. neither in the name of buddha nor in the name of allah.

Please reread my statement. Or remove your head from your ass. I stated Buddhists are currently guilty of killing Muslims. You immediately found ways to deny facts. By bringing up crap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...istory#Myanmar

https://www.google.com/search?ei=FPl...iz.lR41ELzpTV8 Maybe it would improve your knowledge if you used Google prior to posting. After all cutting and pasting requires reading first.

Paul Markham · 02-04-2019, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by huey

lol the crazy Mormon and scientology shit seems more believable then the bible or the Quran. Fucking sheep.

Scientology is proof that starting a religion is something anyone with a bit of knowledge can do.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...of+scientology There's more crap about them here. Scientology was started to make money and control people. So no different from other religions.

Mormonism is also proven to be crap. When the inventor of a "religion" makes a firm claim that doesn't happen. You know someone is lying.

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/di...dict_doomsday/

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The offending passage is one sentence long: “Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church, called a meeting of his church leaders in February 1835 to tell them that he had spoken to God recently, and during their conversation he learned that Jesus would return within the next 56 years, after which the End Times would begin promptly.”

My source for this is Doctrine and Covenants 130:14-17, written by Joseph Smith:

The problem for so many religions is they all make the same mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...alyptic_events

You see a predictable theme here. Threatening the apocalypse is imminent if the plebs don't do as the leaders tell them. They get burned in Hell. But the sheep get to live in heaven. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_time The reality is neither are true, we are just more developed animals who in a very short time have gone from scratching an existence to sending Man into space and inventing bombs that would destroy the Earth. And reproducing at a rate that is destroying the planet.

NewNick · 02-04-2019, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I believe you guys have the right to feel however you want to feel. I respect it. But can one of you geniuses explain, scientifically, how things exist? From nothing?

Its an interesting question.....but:

Science cannot yet explain it . . . . . . . therefore God.

You might as well say "Science cannot yet explain it . . . . . . therefore Aliens.

Inserting "God" wherever science cannot explain something is very weak.

It does not take a genius to know that.

02-02-2019, 02:30 PM	#102
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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,112	"We're all Gods children! God is all loving and all merciful and all forgiving and all compassionate... oh, speaking of which, I just bought 3 of Gods children at the Medina slave market the other day" Uh huh...... __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,112	At least the devout Muslims in Saudi Arabia finally outlawed slavery..... in the 1940s. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

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aimike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 558	Ok I'll help you understand. I was always anti religious all my life.. Pretty hardcore anti religious... Then something happened in my life where I needed something to happen that was impossible for me to make happen through my own means... so I just prayed for it... for a while.. and it happened... coincidence? maybe... But all I know is that I prayed for a very specific thing that was out of my control... and I got it. so at that point.. I chose to believe.. Not hurting me any to believe.. But it might be hurting you if you don't. __________________ Get Custom Adult Website Design

02-02-2019, 04:07 PM	#110
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,112	all religions are "just stories" you brainless twit. You are aware that the books were written by men right? God for some reason didn't bother to create a publishing house and just left it all up to illiterate, uneducated goat herders to figure out. Strange way to "spread a message" of such vital importance... 14 to 30 centuries later 3 Abrahamic religions are still trying. God created the earth in 7 days but couldn't send a simple message to more than one person at a time, more than a dozen times in 1400-3000 years. Maybe God is just shy? But then again, he doesn't mind burning entire cities to the ground or killing every man woman and child in a city to make a point. So many odd contradictions.... then punishing those who never heard the message to begin with. in Islam, both the Quran and "these stories" are used to justify mass murder, killing innocent women and children, slave trades, sex slaves, child brides, pedophilia, lying and cheating etc etc etc. And not that it matters because you're just going to talk in circles... I don't defend any religion and their heinous past. I don't defend Christianity. That's all you and the typical irrelevant "whataboutism" response which is all you're left with. ' What one religion did has absolutely nothing to do with excusing and summarily dismissing the obviously heinous acts of another. Just the fact that Islam could condone slavery and modern Muslims dismiss it cause "everyone was doing it" should be a red light to any person with common sense. At least Christianity had the fucking sense to create a new "messiah" and an updated message which corrected a lot of this stupidity and obvious logical contradictions. Islam came along and doubled down on the fire and brimstone, eye for an eye, God is a vengeful God ,... based on "revelations" which mostly served to enrich mohammed and his inner circle. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

02-02-2019, 03:51 PM	#109
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	Muhammad was human. He made MANY mistakes. Quran doesn't say do as Muhmmad did, Quran says do what God says. There is no quranic verse you can point to that say "rape, kill, etc". All you can. Do is point to "he say she say" secondary sources proven in the Islamic world to be full of fraudlent statements and to be approached with caution. Those are called hadiths, and different sects of Islamic has different sets of Hadith collections, etc. They are just stories. -The official Islamic punishment for rape is death -Lying is prohibited in islam -the punishment for stealing in Islam is getting your hand cut off -you guys equate slavery in Islam to that barbaric shit authorized in Christianity. Reality is, Islamic slavery is the equivalent of mordern prisoners. Every country has prisoners lol. Sauce: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/94840/islam-and-slavery -as far as being a warlard, what are you? A hippy now? -as far as the fucking the kids thing, all 3 abrahamic religions allow it. Don't make me post the Bible verses. I'm trying to be civil lol. Difference is Islam says "follow the law of the land you live in". If it's 18 where you live, it is against Islam to break that law. Not for christians and such tho, who make up the vast majority of child molesters on the planet. ...etc, etc. Just admit, you're an islamophobe. BTW, it is Haram for me to deal with pork (squealers) so, I ask Allah for forgiveness and I'm out :-)

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King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	For anybody truely interested in the Quran tho ,whether interested in real Islam or just want to actually know what they're talking about when debating against a Muslim, here's some cool shit you'll find out: -the Quran accurately describes the speed of light -accurately describes the blurred vision and nausia of space travel -accurately describes the missing pieces of the Bible only recently discovered -accurately describes the known scientific age of the universe -accurately describes human embryos and how they form -accurately describes the different parts of the human brain and their function -accurately describes evolution, what the sun is made of, atoms, plantary orbits, tectonic plates, etc etc etc.... I can go on forever. This is 1400 years ago. What islamophobes called Muslims crazy for, all turned out to be scientifically proven lol. That's something to think about.

02-03-2019, 02:11 AM	#114
lmfao irl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 602	I personally am religious because I am a god of my own reality you feel me Thoughts you project, manifest into reality because humans can bend spoons and don't even realize it.

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	pauls ability to learn anything is demonstrated by his photography...dude failed at pressing a button paul should open a youtube channel for entertainment..."1 minute alzheimers expert on any subject"...you give him a complex subject he knows shit about (any subject really) and he googles for an answer and gets confused paul has the magic ability to skip decades of research other scholars spend on a specific subject and just "google it" __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

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King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	What he needed was better oral hygeine. Too late now tho.

02-03-2019, 08:46 PM	#136
huey Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vancouver Posts: 3,680	lol the crazy Mormon and scientology shit seems more believable then the bible or the Quran. Fucking sheep. __________________ opinions are like assholes................. "They aren't after me, they are AFTER YOU! Im just in their way" -D.J. Trump