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Old 09-21-2020, 12:48 PM   #51
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Do not, and don't buy anywhere in Africa either unless it is Mozambique on the coast and you are not mzungu and you have upper class friends in Mozambique



How much is rent there in city center for an American? Would you be treated ok or poorly?
serbia is the least racist country in the world and everybody is really nice...nobody cares where you are from, foreigners are welcome here and everybody is happy to see them...it is extremely safe here, there are 0 unsafe places...a lot of people speak english...the police is super friendly...will not shoot

as for cost of living, you can get by on 500$ or on 2000$ it depends on your lifestyle...it depends on how high your standard is...shit will never get better here so the prices will always remain low...nice...
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:50 AM   #52
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the house I am building for fun is better than anything you have...it is amusing when beggars laugh...my swimming pool, better than any you will ever have
Yea, weren't you living on your private island in some shithole island country?
Oh yea, that's right, that imaginary money couldn't buy real estate so it was left in your imagination.

Now you have, again, imagined you are actually building something.
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serbia is the least racist country in the world and everybody is really nice...nobody cares where you are from, foreigners are welcome here and everybody is happy to see them...it is extremely safe here, there are 0 unsafe places...a lot of people speak english...the police is super friendly...will not shoot
Haha, yea, you went from imaginary island vilas to justifying to yourself living in a shithole is actually 1st world location with 1st world living standards.
Yea, let me see if there's some bridges on sale there also. I hear that sells like hot cakes.
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Old 09-22-2020, 11:25 AM   #53
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off grid in a remote part of the USA, but within 20-30 miles of taco bell
I have a 36ft class A RV and can live off grid pretty easily. It’s one of the plans. I lived in it for 3 years traveling so I know it’s capacity.
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10K is an awfully cheap ticket to a new life...you can do this in thailand/vietnam/cambodia/philipines...a prefab is 10K...0 rent...food cheap as fuck...

south america is a great place as well...you should do zig zag...a few years south america, a few years asia and back...zig zag...
That is what i am doing the last years, few years in Brazil, Mexico, Colombia and other parts. And than back to Europe for a month and travel further to Asia for some months/years

Cause corona madness i will travel from Europe to Mexico next month. Brazil is really cheap now after the BRL crashed while it was going down already for years. Building is much easier in those lands, no need for a complete heating system. And just use some light weight stones. In Holland everything is triple isolated
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Old 09-23-2020, 12:06 AM   #55
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Yea, weren't you living on your private island in some shithole island country?
Oh yea, that's right, that imaginary money couldn't buy real estate so it was left in your imagination.

Now you have, again, imagined you are actually building something.

Haha, yea, you went from imaginary island vilas to justifying to yourself living in a shithole is actually 1st world location with 1st world living standards.
Yea, let me see if there's some bridges on sale there also. I hear that sells like hot cakes.
oh my 3rd world problems...I am building an adidas shaped house for fun with a bigger swimming pool than your entire apartment just for fun...a 100m2 pool is about 3K in ICF and I am literally too lazy to calculate the concrete it is so dirt cheap...under 500$...

you beggar, tell me, how big is your tiny ass western apartment? I will make a swimming pool and garages both bigger than what you live in

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I have a 36ft class A RV and can live off grid pretty easily. It’s one of the plans. I lived in it for 3 years traveling so I know it’s capacity.
Do you tow a car?
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oh my 3rd world problems...I am building an adidas shaped house for fun with a bigger swimming pool than your entire apartment just for fun...a 100m2 pool is about 3K in ICF and I am literally too lazy to calculate the concrete it is so dirt cheap...under 500$...

you beggar, tell me, how big is your tiny ass western apartment? I will make a swimming pool and garages both bigger than what you live in

Please don't steal other people's photos.
https://www.archdaily.com/590859/res...ecture-network

You're again building stuff in your imagination.

Other then that, land is pretty cheap in zimbabwe, maybe you could afford something there, and still manage to live in the middle of shithole nowhere thinking "you made it".
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https://www.archdaily.com/590859/res...ecture-network

You're again building stuff in your imagination.

Other then that, land is pretty cheap in zimbabwe, maybe you could afford something there, and still manage to live in the middle of shithole nowhere thinking "you made it".
if you did not notice, the youtube video I posted is not mine either...the link you posted is from the comments on the youtube video to show you its adidas shaped

how big is your tiny western appartment tho?...I need to know how big to make my garage
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Zimbabwe, the country that took all the land from White farmers and starved?
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Been following this thread. Some great places mentioned.
But we coronavirus-sucking idiot Americans can't go jack shit nowhere in the freakin' world so this is all fantasy masturbation for me.
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oh my 3rd world problems...I am building an adidas shaped house for fun with a bigger swimming pool than your entire apartment just for fun...a 100m2 pool is about 3K in ICF and I am literally too lazy to calculate the concrete it is so dirt cheap...under 500$...

you beggar, tell me, how big is your tiny ass western apartment? I will make a swimming pool and garages both bigger than what you live in

... you wont even be able to get the reinforcements for $500
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... you wont even be able to get the reinforcements for $500
the ICF takes 12cm reinforced concrete...1m3 concrete, high price, is 60 euros...this means for 1m2 I need approx 8 euros

the steel crap that goes in this is 70cents per kilo "lose" or 80cents per kilo "tied"...

I am too lazy to work out how much the pool will actually cost...I will laugh at any price they give me and have the cash in my pocket at any given time...
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the ICF takes 12cm reinforced concrete...1m3 concrete, high price, is 60 euros...this means for 1m2 I need approx 8 euros

the steel crap that goes in this is 70cents per kilo "lose" or 80cents per kilo "tied"...

I am too lazy to work out how much the pool will actually cost...I will laugh at any price they give me and have the cash in my pocket at any given time...
Depending on how you want to build it, a 100m2 pool still need a concrete floot, so lets say you go easy and only want 15cm walls, you are at 15 m3 of concrete = 60 * 15 = €900 alone for the concrete.

For steel, you need 500-700kg for the floor alone = uppps the €500 I told you
8 mm dimensions in sections of 2350x5000 mm 150x150 mm masks, is 62.5 kg each


And then comes the ICF.. those are NOT cheap

Then comes the painting or surface treatment

and are you and your slav army gonna dig the hole by hand to keep cost down?

What about around the pool? gonna just let gras or gravel fall into your pool?
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Depending on how you want to build it, a 100m2 pool still need a concrete floot, so lets say you go easy and only want 15cm walls, you are at 15 m3 of concrete = 60 * 15 = €900 alone for the concrete.

For steel, you need 500-700kg for the floor alone = uppps the €500 I told you
8 mm dimensions in sections of 2350x5000 mm 150x150 mm masks, is 62.5 kg each


And then comes the ICF.. those are NOT cheap

Then comes the painting or surface treatment

and are you and your slav army gonna dig the hole by hand to keep cost down?

What about around the pool? gonna just let gras or gravel fall into your pool?
I said the ICF is like 3000$ for 100m2 walls for a house...a pool is not as deep as a house...the ICF takes 12cm concrete not 15cm...they build pools with it no problem...a digger is 2$/m3...too lazy to work out how much for the pool...around the pool is polished concrete thing...dirt cheap...too lazy to work it out...it is pennies...too lazy to even remember what they told me LOL...

feel the power of the 3rd world!...I watch "Grand designs" on youtube and laugh...it is so absurdly expensive to build in the west...
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This is his go-to plan.
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https://www.kupujemprodajem.com/uslu...r_id=651915846


oh look conventional building, grey phase, 126 euros/m2 , white phase 335e/m2...this is all in...permit and materials and labor and everything included

man I wish I paid out of the ass like ladida...goals..
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Yes a Jeep. I also have a lift on the back for my Harley so all my shit goes with me
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Yes a Jeep. I also have a lift on the back for my Harley so all my shit goes with me
not a sportster? how hard is the bike to lift on there?
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not a sportster? how hard is the bike to lift on there?
Low rider. It’s a hydraulic lift wired wit a remote. Easy up and down. It’s a sweet set up.
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Lived in Spain for 24 years, lived all over it.

Not as cheap as it used to be, but the smaller cities are great, if you've got an income and don't need to find a job there. Cadiz, Almeria, Cartagena all good choices.
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Not as cheap as it used to be, but the smaller cities are great, if you've got an income and don't need to find a job there. Cadiz, Almeria, Cartagena all good choices.
Where do you currently live ?
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About 10km outside of Cartagena.
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And since 2008 I'm living in Bulgaria.
Awesome country and people, fantastic region of the world, all countries around Bulgaria are worth visiting and re-visiting: Greece, Romania, Serbia, Turkey, Cyprus... just to name a few.
It's beautiful, affordable, well located and connected to the world.
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That would be cool - any early figures on cost or bandwidth?
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What's the catch with these? Could a typical "I Love Istanbul but I've never been anything but a tourist" type do ok buying one of these? Very low price - suspicious - they also don't seem to exist yet so you're buying a project that may never happen? What's the catch?

https://www.propertyturkey.com/real_...in-ordu-turkey
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What's the catch with these? Could a typical "I Love Istanbul but I've never been anything but a tourist" type do ok buying one of these? Very low price - suspicious - they also don't seem to exist yet so you're buying a project that may never happen? What's the catch?

https://www.propertyturkey.com/real_...in-ordu-turkey
why buy?...you can rent cheap in turkey...200-300$/month will get you a nice 1-2 bedroom by the sea...
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or some Switzerland village with mountains.
You like entertainment, hmm ?
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why buy?...you can rent cheap in turkey...200-300$/month will get you a nice 1-2 bedroom by the sea...
I noticed that - low rent to value in Turkey. But I don't rent unless it is for vacation. You can get a 90 day automatically as an American but after that it becomes inconvenient. With owning, you can almost assuredly get a 1-5 year that you don't actually have to use.
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a fantastic bar in a town called Union, north of Cartagena, just around near La Manga, you can pay just a few € for 2 people to eat and drink! There´s many tapas restaurants and bars still in land, heading to Murcia where the cost of a drink and some paella is just a few €!

We went to Cartagena for new years day, was amazing day out, just relaxing around the boats and down into the town
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and there´s always something to do, somewhere new to visit or go to see
How big a handicap is it to live there if you don't speak Spanish? Can you get by or do you need to learn some basic language skills first? I'm American and we have only ever been taught one language. I took Spanish in high school, but it was a waste of time. There wasn't a Spaniard within a thousand miles to practice with.
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