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Old 03-23-2023, 05:02 AM   #1
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Who owns and flies their own airplane?

Any pilots here? Anyone who owns and flies their own airplane around?
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No, but i was thinking about getting cesna pilot license and buying cesna. Given the current car and gas prices, might be cheaper to use it lol
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No, but i was thinking about getting cesna pilot license and buying cesna. Given the current car and gas prices, might be cheaper to use it lol
Haha, you're going to want to get your private pilot license and then your instrument rating. Not sure you're going to be overly "impressed" by owning a single engine piston airplane in most parts of the country But, you can get a TBM or a PC12... but that's going to require a few more bucks.
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Haha, you're going to want to get your private pilot license and then your instrument rating. Not sure you're going to be overly "impressed" by owning a single engine piston airplane in most parts of the country But, you can get a TBM or a PC12... but that's going to require a few more bucks.
Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.
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Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.
Not sure what you're talking about -- and I've got no idea about Europe -- but I have a commercial multi-engine license and instrument rating in the US.
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I've had three. First was a '67 Piper PA-28/140, second was a Pulsar XP, third was a Glasair 1 that I got completed to about 65%, then converted it to a down payment on my house 20 years ago.

I was also a military Air Traffic Controller.
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I've had three. First was a '67 Piper PA-28/140, second was a Pulsar XP, third was a Glasair 1 that I got completed to about 65%, then converted it to a down payment on my house 20 years ago.

I was also a military Air Traffic Controller.
Ah sweet. You don't do much flying anymore?
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Not sure what you're talking about -- and I've got no idea about Europe -- but I have a commercial multi-engine license and instrument rating in the US.
How much did it cost you ? And school which i was checking is this: https://www.aeroprague.com/en/ . Looks like prices went up in the meantime.
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How much did it cost you ? And school which i was checking is this: https://www.aeroprague.com/en/ . Looks like prices went up in the meantime.
Probably around 90k USD.

And the prices you're looking at, I believe are per-hour rental prices.
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Ah sweet. You don't do much flying anymore?
Lost medical six years ago for cirrhosis, but now with a new-to-me liver I can get it back if I want. I don't have any restrictions.
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Lost medical six years ago for cirrhosis, but now with a new-to-me liver I can get it back if I want. I don't have any restrictions.
Ah sweet. Basic Med might also be an option. Glad you're doing better now! I've got my first-class med -- which reminds me that I need to schedule a "renewal".
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Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.
Where did you get that 500 euro for a PPL, PPL in Europe cost between 5k to 12k depending on country.

And a decent used Cessna will set you back around 150k euro anything less will be a mechanic hog
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Where did you get that 500 euro for a PPL, PPL in Europe cost between 5k to 12k depending on country.

And a decent used Cessna will set you back around 150k euro anything less will be a mechanic hog
No idea. It was probably price before gas inflation.
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Haha do you still have your 150?
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Yeah, it's in Florida. It's fabric not metal. It's old as hell, but still fun as long as I can pass my medical
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Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.
I set out for a commercial license in the early 70's. Back then the airlines did not like re-training military pilots. Shortly thereafter, the Viet Nam war ended and dumped a huge surplus of military pilots on the market. I was told it would take 10 years for the market to absorb these pilots. It turns out that was a pretty accurate prediction. So I moved on to something else, but never lost the fun of flying. My Cessna 150 back then cost $5k. Don't know what it's worth now.
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I rode in a Cessna 208 Caravan today

I took a few intro lessons in a Cirrus 12 years ago... They were trying to sell me hard on a license package but it wasn't really my thing and impossible to justify.
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Thinking about getting an Ultra Light... cheaper than buying a sports car...

Ultra Light licenses are easy to get, less hours are needed, you dont need medical clearances but you can only fly these planes, during the day, in good weather, at lower altitudes and with 1 passenger.



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My partner has his yachting licence & wanted to get a pilot captains licence for a helicopter, but i hate flying so much and don´t like heights, would be pointless, so we stick to driving on land or water lol
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Thinking about getting an Ultra Light... cheaper than buying a sports car...

Ultra Light licenses are easy to get, less hours are needed, you dont need medical clearances but you can only fly these planes, during the day, in good weather, at lower altitudes and with 1 passenger.



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Thinking about getting an Ultra Light... cheaper than buying a sports car...

Ultra Light licenses are easy to get, less hours are needed, you dont need medical clearances but you can only fly these planes, during the day, in good weather, at lower altitudes and with 1 passenger.



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Do your research. That's not even close to Ultra Light in the US.

254 pounds is the limit. Maximum speed of 63mph at full power in level flight, and stall speed no greater than 24mph.

The plane in the photo will not meet any of that. An ultralight must meet all three.

I think you have Ultra Light and LSA confused.
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Do your research. That's not even close to Ultra Light in the US.

254 pounds is the limit. Maximum speed of 63mph at full power in level flight, and stall speed no greater than 24mph.

The plane in the photo will not meet any of that. An ultralight must meet all three.

I think you have Ultra Light and LSA confused.
LSA then... Jesus.
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I am looking to get a pilots license for small Cesna planes this year. I fly often with a friend of mine and I love it. I have flown myself as co-pilot but never took-off or landed of course. I have no plans to buy a new plane but might pickup a used one in a few years.

If you have never flown in a small 2 or 4 seater plane before I highly suggest it. It's alot of fun.
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My partner has his yachting licence & wanted to get a pilot captains licence for a helicopter, but i hate flying so much and don´t like heights, would be pointless, so we stick to driving on land or water lol
I am just the opposite. I LOVE heights, and LOVE flying. The only part I hate about flying is the long security lines when travelling but otherwise I look forward to every flight I take.
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LSA then... Jesus.
If you wanna be that way about it... the plane you posted a picture of, would not even qualify as an LSA because of it's retractable landing gear, variable pitch propellor, and speed.

People often waste their money getting into an aircraft that is beyond their means.
You would need a regular private pilot certificate to legally fly that.

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You can now fly a 150 as an LSA under the updated FAA rules

So as long as you don't get your medical taken away, you could let it expire and keep flying under LSA guidelines.
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If you wanna be that way about it... the plane you posted a picture of, would not even qualify as an LSA because of it's retractable landing gear, variable pitch propellor, and speed.

People often waste their money getting into an aircraft that is beyond their means.
You would need a regular private pilot certificate to legally fly that.

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Why the attitude?

Pilots generally like to help those interested in flying. You posted a complex aircraft and labeled it as an ultralight, so I tried to help...

The other plane you posted is pretty, but get some training. Ask for spin training, as it's not usually included in sport pilot or private pilot certificates.

The first time you're testing the flight envelope in your new-to-you sport plane and you see how it handles a stall and you experience a wing drop and spin, if you're not trained you'll become a lawn dart.
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Every time I drive past the North Las Vegas airport signs for flying lessons, I'm like hmmmm. Always been curious about flying.

Then again, if they ever manufacture the Cybertruck I pre-ordered, who knows if I'll even be driving a car, much less a plane.
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Old 03-25-2023, 11:26 PM   #48
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This thread delivers.

Every time I drive past the North Las Vegas airport signs for flying lessons, I'm like hmmmm. Always been curious about flying.

Then again, if they ever manufacture the Cybertruck I pre-ordered, who knows if I'll even be driving a car, much less a plane.
If I remember correctly, you'll fly solo with as little as 8 hours instruction. You'll likely be practicing touch and goes with your instructor and after landing he'll jump out of the plane and tell you to keep going. It's a surprise move. There you are, on the runway and it's time to solo. Exhilarating! The remaining 32 hours is flying and learning navigation. It's definitely an experience you should not pass up.
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Old 03-26-2023, 01:55 PM   #49
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If I remember correctly, you'll fly solo with as little as 8 hours instruction. You'll likely be practicing touch and goes with your instructor and after landing he'll jump out of the plane and tell you to keep going. It's a surprise move. There you are, on the runway and it's time to solo. Exhilarating! The remaining 32 hours is flying and learning navigation. It's definitely an experience you should not pass up.
Um, not quite. There's a "list of things" you have to do and meet.

How things are structure will depend if it's a part 61 or part 141 school/program. The time requirements are also dependent on wether it's 61 or 141.

But, when you're instructor feels like the student is ready, the student will go up into the pattern and do a feel laps solo.
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Old 03-26-2023, 02:22 PM   #50
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Every time I drive past the North Las Vegas airport signs for flying lessons, I'm like hmmmm. Always been curious about flying.
That's where I did mine. Also helicopter

Fun experiences but again not something I wanted to persue at the time.
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