Bladewire

It's very basic! We are dominating the middle east because if we didn't our society would turn to this!


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Yeah his family was starving and he stole some food so they cut off an arm and leg for punishment.... CIVILIZED ! I don't know what the first guy did but I'm sure he didn't deserve to have his had cut off! Somebody has to intervene here and it might as well be the U.S. We are the only ones strong enough to take them on.

Adorno

Our society would turn into this?

Please explain.

It is a good thing we dont execute people in the United States. Oh wait...

nap

correct me if i'm wrong but are we not still executing prisoners?

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Bladewire

Adorno get a clue! Maybe you're right.. there is no difference between the United States legal system and the one that carried out this punishement.

" Please explain. "

I did! " We are dominating the middle east because if we didn't our society would turn to this! "

What more is there to say????

Bladewire

Nap if you think we are comparable to what you see there then say so man. I think the United States and other civilized countries are a far cry from the middle east.

We give our women freedom, we do not force them to be covered head to toe in clothing.

Instead of asking questions... give answers.

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nap

what the fuck gives you or anyone else to change a countries culture? i mean really, who the fuck do you think you are to say who should and shouldn't be doing in THEIR CULTURE?!? please explain why you think its our countries duty to change a CULTURE. give me a fucking break

LadyMischief

Well considering they have been using harsh forms of punishment like that for ..hmm..let's think..THOUSANDS of years, I'm AMAZED it hasn't infected our delicate western civilization yet! My goodness, I bet we've got no more than a year left before the whole world turns into Iraq. Give me a break. You honestly think Iraq is the ONLY country in the middle east that performs these extreme forms of punishment? Hell no. It's completely hypocritical to say we should take out one country for a certain behavior, but ignore all the other ones that do it because it's not convenient to do anything about them just now..

Apparently, you haven't had much time to research or find out about what life is like in the middle east... And has been like for a LONG time.

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nap

and if "give our women freedom" is the best you can come up with for invading iraq then you need to go find more faces of death footage to furthur your stupid ass posts

Adorno

Even Bush would call you an idiot.

If we do not "dominate" the Middle East, we will start chopping each others limbs off for pretty crime?

You make me believe in eugenics.

Webby

nap:


There was the first 9/11 and that did not take place in New York.
This was in Chile on the 9th November 1973, with the full support of the US and involved deposing the democratically elected government and placing another US puppet in power - Pinochet.

We have to thank the US, once again, for enabling US trained terrorists to crush a democracy which resulted in many thousands more mutilated bodies being found in mass graves and over the countryside. Many more than were ever killed at the Twin Towers.


Yea... the nicer sensibilities of "give our women freedom" are so much appreciated.

Shit.. the US Admin have a lot to answer for! They need a rapid execution for war crimes - screw a court case.

Welcome to the real world....

Bladewire

BECAUSE THEY FLEW TWO AIRPLANES FULL OF INNOCENT PEOPLE INTO TWO BUILDINGS AND DECLARED WAR ON US BECAUSE OF OUR CULTURE! Not to mention other planes of ours they crashed with innocent people and other attackes THEY'VE made upon on US.

This is an attack by them upon us. We will win or die fighting to keep our society ending up like theirs.

Other peoples culture I have no problem with, but when they attack my people, on my soil and declare war because of the way my people live then I have a RIGHT to fight back.

Like I said.. it's pretty basic really. And my caps above represent me yelling, I'm not pissed off, just trying to get my point accross so please don't take it the wrong way.

Tipsy

You haven't much of a point. Not too bright are you? Let me guess...if it appears on TV, on the Internet or in a newspaper it must be true, right?

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Squirtit:

Ah.. is that why??? Because of your "culture"????

Sorry.. na... much as it was an outrage.. it sure was not because of your "culture"!

What culture??? Gimme a break!

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Ehm... you're saying the Iraqi people committed the 9/11 attacks?

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nap

ok you truely are an idiot. even your poster boy dubya has STATED that iraq had nothing to do with the taliban. like i said, go back to searching the internet for more faces of death footage. if you need i can upload the entire faces of death season 2 if that helps you out.

nap

like i said, you are an idiot. welcome to the board

Bladewire

LadyMischief I respect you but you missed my quote in the original post " We are dominating the middle east because if we didn't our society would turn to this! "

Not just Iraq .. the middle east.

The middle east has been passive agressive in their diplomacy for years.... saying one thing... doing another.

Please DO NOT think that because I feel what is going on there is wrong that I in any way support Bush (asshole) or the way he went about manipulating the American people.

911 should have forced people to take a look at how different we are from other cultures and how they despise the U.S. and want to destroy us.

If we don't defend ourselves we will lose the war. Living overseas I can tell you from an outside perspective that many many countries, not just small ones, see us as following in the footsteps of Germany with our current administration.

Lane

you are full of hate kid.

how many people were involved in planning the 911 attack u think? if the whole middle east were in this, dont you think US intelligence would have known and prevented it? it is easy to blame millions of people for one terrorist organizations actions.

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Bladewire

Tipsy speak facts here.. back up your insults with facts.

I think it's unfortunate that you resort to personal attacks instead of giving your opinions.

I have integrity as a person and you assume far too much in your assumption of me as an individual based on my post.

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Bladewire

Why am I full of hate?

One post stating I don't want to have a culture like the middle east and I'm full of hate?

Lane you assume to much and I am not that kind of person.

One terrorist organization is different from a hole culture Lane. The culture of the Middle East permits the cutting off of hands and feet for petty crimes that in the U.S. would result in a small monetary fine.

Bladewire

Nap insulting me personally because I stated I don't want to have a cultur like those in the Middle East is unfair.

Because I have a point of view different then yours doesn't warrant personal attacks.

From your posts in other threads you seem to have more integrity then that.

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Bladewire

Because I don't want to be a part of the Middle East culture I am now a part of eugenics?

I think you're being irrational and making a mountain out of a mole hill.

There is a BIG difference in making a post on GFY and believing in the selected breeding of the human race.

Why do you have to demonize people with a different point of view? Think logically.

Bladewire

I agree with you the US Admin has a LOT to answer for and they've fucked up a lot INCLUDING the war in Iraq. Nothing but lies and smokescreens to the American people for 4 years.. ACTUALLY.. since the election and the Bush cover up.. we all know he really lost

Webby

nap:

One thing I can't stand is fucking pampered idiots who have no clue of anything!

At the same time they dribble on about the supposed "benefits" of the US on this planet - I ain't ever come across this in any other country in the world and find it both offensive and sad.

The day of boring old US propaganda is over - I sit and watch lies and "evasions" from Bush, Rumsfeld and Rice - almost on a daily basis. Some of the less blessed actually believe this shit.. pity!!

Since the day Bush was born he had been in control at some points in his life which have resulted in more deaths than ever were committed by Saddam Hussein - start off with him roleplaying as Governor of Texas to the current day.

I have ZERO sympathy for people who have sat on their asses and allowed their own governments to be instigators in the massacres of many, many thousands over the globe in the name of "freedom for women" and other utter BS!

The simple fact of life is.. currently the US is a rogue regime that due for change! It is an enormous liability to the rest of the world. Only the folks there can change this - if they don't, rest assured, unfortunately, they will see they results of their own "close my eyes" and negligent behavior.

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Lane

re-read your own posts
you are the one saying 911 shows how their culture hates our culture

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Bladewire

I'm not sure where you are coming from Webby but there is a backlash in many parts of the world regarding the American culture if you are not aware of this I suggest you do some research. The Phillipines, Middle East and Europe are all part of the backlash. It's been going on for some time.

Bladewire

No MIDDLE EAST

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Lane

now that is a perfect definition of sheep.

wow, US must have some fucked up intelligence if the whole middle east was planning this attack all along and it couldnt be prevented

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Squirtit:

It ain't a "culture" as such.. tis just the witnessing by many of US behavior in many countries..

This ranges from political interferance in otherwise democratically elected governments to the "Americanisation" by corporates who bleed the assets out of countries and all profits are removed to the US. It is a culture of greed, bullying and bribing.

No other country behaves as badly as this internationally.. I dunno why, but looks like it comes from ignorance of others on the planet.

And yes, it has been going on for a long time now.

Bladewire

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I agree with you except for one point " in the name of "freedom for women" and other utter BS!"

I didn't say any war was in the name of "freedom for women" . I quoted an example of how their culture is different from ours.

I think human oppression is a great reason to go to war.. to fight for people who can't fight for themselves and free them.... turning the balance of power.. but unfortunately that has not happened in any war I can remember in the recent past. The only time I can think of when fighting for freedom has worked was when we fought for our OWN freedom. Maybe that is the only way that kind of battle can be won.. when the people are ready for the results if they win. No sooner.. no less.

LadyMischief

Agree with the culture or not.. it's endured for MILLENIA relatively unchanged... Evidently, cruel or not they are doing something "right". Whereas Western culture is fickle in relation. I definitely do NOT agree with the way they do things over there, but considering that their culture has been around for FAR longer than ours, don't you think if they were going to "influence" us, it would have happened LONG before now? America is a few hundred years old. The middle east is pretty much the birthplace of culture. Superiority is a little silly when you take it all into perspective, isn't it?

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Bladewire

The Middle East, as a whole, are against the American culture.

LadyMischief

If you actually do some research into the Islamic religion, you would also see that this is incorrect. Just because SOME people take a hardline extremist Islamic view, they are FAR from indicitive of the rest of the religion. Islam is essentially a religion of peace. It shares many of the policies and prophets of "christian" religions.. in fact, both religions were essentially spearheaded by Abraham. The Koran is not all that different from the bible. Do you think because a few people take it to extremes that everyone there must? Since when are the actions of a few always the indicator of the actions of the many? Most people in the middle east want what everyone wants.. Peace, security.. food on the table, a means to provide for their children. Painting them all with the same brush is not only unfair, it's incredibly shallow and stupid.

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nemesis

If I was developing a picture dictionary, I would put your picture for the definition of American Idiot.

So, you think the iraq is uncivilized for cutting the arms of people for punishment and this gives you right to attack them ?

I wonder what would you think if Germany, a country that do not have capital punishment, attack usa because they find capital punishment very uncivilized and thinks Usa should be dominated for uncivilized practices the country does.

Get a clue bitch

LadyMischief

No, that is a huge generalization and again, incorrect. There are a LOT of people who hate the US for some of the shady dealings they've had in the middle east.. Some of the things the US have done out there are deplorable. I would be pissed too if it was me. Do some research. Who do you think trained Osama? And Al Queda? Look it up.

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Bladewire

I did mean culture when I said culture.. yes the political issues you mention are very important as well.. but I'm talking about the American culture.. what we wear, our television shows, etc etc. In the Middle East specifically, because of their strong religious beliefs, they fell we are all living in sin.. etc etc.

Other countries don't like American entertainment constantly bombarding their TV's and radios.. because it Americanizes their society. I know I know... just don't import our media.. I know it's contradictory but this is what other countries think. Don't shoot me just 'cause I'm the messenger

Webby

Squirtit:

I agree!!

All folks have basic right since the day they were born and no asshole needs to be messing with em!

Iraq, Afghanistan and many other places have ... well.. damned strange "cultures" in comparison to ours. And many we will certainly not agree with.

But that is no reason to, in the instance of Iraq, to "elect" to invade the place and kill thousands of innocent people, cause extreme hardship to others and leave the place in a mess.

There are many problems which have only just began to surface there - like premature births and first signs of other diseases caused by depleted uranium blah. Wait till the guys in the forces get back and start complaining about "The Iraqi War Syndrome".

No asshole purporting to be a "President" needs to permitted to engage in this with a series of lies and deciet in the first instance. The US is "supposed" to be a civilised country - it's past time it displayed some of this and stopped behaving like a spoilt kid.


Hell... the Iraq people were better off under an evil dicatator!

Bladewire

I agree with you here.

One point "Superiority is a little silly when you take it all into perspective, isn't it? "

I'm not sure if you're saying their superiority to the U.S or the other way around but I will say that if we don't try, in some way (not necessy militarily) to protect ourselves then we are at risk of others taking over us as we've taken over others in the past.

We are a great power but with the Bush adminstration pushing along the way it has we are being seen by others as trying to dominate the world. This has to stop. Great empires have fallen in the past and I don't want the U.S. to fall. We need to adapt and change our global stratagies to avoid being another USSR or Germany.

Bladewire

It is a generalization but an accurate one. Of course not every individual feels this way. A LOT of people should hate the things we've done to them. I agree. I don't blame them.. but I wont let them destroy my country. And yes I said distroy.. there are many chemical agents and viruses that if unleased could have huge impacts on America. Biological warfare is the least expensive, most effective and compact way to kill individuals.

I don't know if anyone really has the capability yet to hurt the U.S. with biological weapons, creating a big impact, I hope they don't, but know that if they do we are in trouble.

There are many countries that want to teach the U.S. a lesson.

KRL

Hahaha, that was gentle. They gave the guy a break and let him live at least.

You obviously have never seen how organized crime families in the United States and every other country of the world deal with thieves.



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Webby

Squirtit:

I think you will find they kinda like what you wear

The problem is ain't that CNN is that bad (makes ya wince tho!) - more like the conduct of the government of the US over a long period. They don't hate ya!! More a .. well.. very great hatred, if the actions of 9/11 are a guide, to US foreign policy.

The vast majority of folks have no problem with the US as a country or it's people - they kinda like the place!

Sadly many of these folks have been shit on from a high height in past years. It is not something many will forgive for a long time.

Sorry! Na.. I ain't gonna shoot the messenger!!

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people dont get executed for stealing food

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