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Old 03-18-2004, 07:29 PM   #51
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Old 03-18-2004, 07:34 PM   #52
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Old 03-18-2004, 07:51 PM   #54
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Wow, now that's drama I kinda thought you were talking about mainstream corporate world, in any case good luck, I hope you guys end on amicable terms .. or work it out somehow ..
Wow too. I thought it was a mainsteam job where the employer would not even know about this board. Hope all the parties can work it out.

This type of drama I don't like reading on a public message board.
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Old 03-18-2004, 08:29 PM   #55
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revmitcz - Welcome to GFY.

Now about your statements...

I have a very strong work ethic...

FIRST YOU SAY:
"If that is not ripping on a company and their ways of doing things - then I don't know what is."

What company? Yours?
Everyone knows companies have plus and minus to them. I felt as though I couldnt not get anything done...
Sorry my fucking bad!
Maybe cuz the network is actually fucked? HUMM????

Sorry since ya came out and made a voice ,let me clue you in on somthing...
THIS SHIT IS NOT ABOUT YOU.
NOR YOUR COMPANY... OK? YOU Came out here and have attacked me out of the fucking blue!

Tear me an new ass you say?

Please... Once again it proves imbecilles should not sit at keyboards.
Let me explaine since you do not have the picture nor do you have any clue why I had to HACK job your work which I admired...

Ya say...

"I'd love to know what you spent 20-40 mins. explaining, seeing as how you needed explanations on how I got a motion blur effect in Flash, you didn't know .fla's were cross-platform, and you sneered condescendingly at me b/c I *gasp* used a Mac to make tours."

I dint know FLA files were cross platform big fucking deal...
I never seen a fucking MAC used for web development really just video work...

Motion blur? Oh I didnt know how ya got that?
Please... Go and and start making shit up. It was a simple sprite trick...
Just like the over all banner is.

Now to the reasons why I hack jobbed it...

1: Because it looked fine enough and there was a "LOok" campaign goin on with it. Meaning if I were to start from scratch it would detour from the ad campaign theme.
Ya think Marketing wants that to happen?
Fuck no. IDIOT.

2: I was asked to make this banner and have it done 45 minutes before leaving work so the shit can hit the boards! Sorry you were so over encumbered with work that ya could not do it your self. The shit only took 30 minutes to adjust for 2 different sizes and adjust the the sprites and instances!

Now your other thing bud...

"She's got 7 guys that make things happen. We've been making things happen for quite some time before you came along, and we'll continue to do so loooong after you're gone. We don't all come pre-packaged with an attitude and a lack of knowledge about basic design standards and practices."


Lack of knowledge? Read above information and below as to why you will fail in the long run.
You can not see big pictures.

Lets move on to this FPA thing shall we...

This FPA ued transparent GIF's indeed the funny looking lines is intended anti aliasing to make the FPA flexible...
Meaning that the FPA is not only capable of going out in a mailer it will be capable of going out in a fucken working web page to! How ya ask?

Let me explaine.
In Mailer ya not gonna be able to get away with Style sheets. Your wont control the link color, ya cant use really a background image in the dsign. SO dipshit...

What I did was make a concept that was flexible by all means. You can take that fucking FPA and use it for any fucking NICHE you want. YOU CAN PUT any content into it without being constrained to lack of versatility...
Yup...
I did that shit like hella fast and hella optimised why the bitch was less then 100k, and could be reduced depending on content to a mere 50K! WOW! A mailer FpA and a HTML page design that flexed for 2 uses!

Imagine that EFFICENCY! OMG!
How the fuck dare I make somthing that takes design to a new level!

YOU GO ON AND SAY:
"Jim makes the best FPAs I've ever seen. End of story. The best part, though? If he has a problem w/something he's working on - he comes to me and asks me about it. Because I know things he doesn't. Also - I go to him a lot, because he knows a lot I don't know. That's what we call teamwork. Give it a try sometime."

You have no clue what a team player is..,
Hence why I was asking about thingsotherwise you wouldnt say such things...
I Do hope ya see that playing for the team versus a weakness. Of course your supposed to ask if ya do not know...
ESPECIALLY concerning design! Why ya think I was asking ya some things?
Sorry I bothered your stupid ass...
I mean I was only the new guy on the team and all...

NOW YOU SAY:

"Did you, or did you not write a diatribe on here just a few days ago about your depression over never being a "blinger". That, my friend, is being miserable."

Why yes I did...
Did it bother you? Did affect the way you work? Oh wait... Let me think about this more... The only guy to even mentioned a sense of understanding or carring is Hustler DJ. I told em whats up he understood. Why can't you? I was not asking for compassion from any of you... But hey now I know ya read it and well now I what sort of people I was dealing with.


THEN YOU SAY:
"And, yes, you are afraid to mention your faults. You made so many false statements in the last few days (and, I mean at work), that you shoulda been a politician.""

Are you aluding to the fact that I sited several things that are an epidemic or you just reaching for straws here bud?
False statments like wut? You go for it... Do not go taking it out of context either cuz I will get down to the draw of the situation.

I would say you are reaching for straws because the things I sited are PROBLEMATIC and are going to bite you guys in the fucking ass and you KNOW it! Sure ya can aford to fix it, long after I am gone but thats not the point. The point is making money not waiting for the bite that is inevitable in expenses.

But oh wait... You dont really care that its not going to cost you money... Its gonna cost other people money and remember every hour is money on the net bro... EVERY FUCKING HOUR.

How to get fired 101? You guys are the ones that decided to take this shit to the boards... was not me. I didnt ask for this.

Be sure to ask HR about my messages.
Be sure to ask Leslie why she didnt answer my ICQ's today about working from home due to the fucking 101 snarl ehh? I even got pictures of the shit to show ya if you ever interested.

trsut that I am your friend. I trust that you came here beause you were asked to defend...

Pull your head out your ass and think for a minute. I came in with new idea's. I came in with things in mind to make things more efficient. I was already begiining to demonstrate that and yet ya come out on a board and ridicule me for it.

Oh wait...
I think what I said my have been things that were a threat to your own corporate livelihood. What I had in mind as to make things more efficent but seldom do dedicated workers actually think about such things.

You leave me no choice but to sit here and defend myself from your slanderous words...

You have hurt my reputation as a professional.

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Old 03-18-2004, 08:41 PM   #56
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I just recently got a great job...
Great Job too. Most of you would die for it.
Yeah Alien really attacked your company there... how dare he! Leslie you've made yourself look like one incredible fool in this thread... if you have any position of authority in your company, I certainly hope the higher ups are smart enough to show you the door quickly... unbelievable level of unprofessionalism you have shown here. Supposed management attacking an employee on a public board because of a general statement and applying it to his work situation. Unreal.

Alien's always been a stand up guy in this industry also for what it's worth.
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:06 PM   #57
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:24 PM   #58
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I just recently got a great job...

Sitting in the cubicle...

Makes me sick.
I do not think I can hang with it.
Great Job to. Most of you would die for it.
When you work for a company, you are a representative of that company; meaning that when you go forth in a public forum you need to be careful about how you represent yourself. If you have issues internal to your organization, you should deal with them at that level......not come out and share your perspective of their innerworkings with the public. I don't know you or understand what your intentions truly were. That is not for me to judge. I am just putting in my

When you work for yourself, that is a different issue. You can do and be anyway you like.
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:56 PM   #61
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AlienQ, like I said I thought you were talking about a mainstream job and your employer would not read it. However, you phrased a generic opinion where your employer knows you post and didn?t describe the work atmosphere in a productive way.

I am not sure what I would do in a situation like this, but I do know I wouldn?t want someone to bring it on the boards.
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"When you work for a company, you are a representative of that company; meaning that when you go forth in a public forum you need to be careful about how you represent yourself. "

I make no public representations for companies. I was rather straight up about that during the interview process. I did not want press releases I didint want fan fair...

I do not sell my sig...
I rep myself only as a board guy when I post. Fuck I even give free advice publicly but I do not brand it with a company.

What we have here today is an outright misguided attack on how I operate.
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"When you work for a company, you are a representative of that company; meaning that when you go forth in a public forum you need to be careful about how you represent yourself. "

I make no public representations for companies. I was rather straight up about that during the interview process. I did not want press releases I didint want fan fair...

I do not sell my sig...
I rep myself only as a board guy when I post. Fuck I even give free advice publicly but I do not brand it with a company.

What we have here today is an outright misguided attack on how I operate.
You missed the point or I did. Were you an employee?
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:58 PM   #64
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sorry this turned into a war. I just wanted to say my piece, since I felt attacked by your "best fucking FPA ever" comment.

you dig?
we cool?

sleep well.
good luck in the future, hope all goes well w/you.
And, yes, I mean that sincerely.

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Let this thread die...

We all lost.
It was not supposed to go the way it did at all. Emm a horrible experiment gone wrong is the best way to describe it.

Your good people.

I talk alot on the boards and I have said it before, boards are at best used for a side pocket to make things happen anything else is kinda bullshit.

There are aims in what I post about though sometimes and they take a while to get wha I am looking for out of them...
But take notice man on how I was doing this dance...
This is what I was doing...

I have been trolling and looking for webmasters that DO NOT work in corporations and looking for shots to make things happen with those individuals that do not generally touch up on large corporate companies but run good business. Would I come out and just say it? Hell no. Ya goto fish em out and see what they say then land contact.

I was attempting to tap into those minds a little so that maybe thier mind set might open and try an affiliate program that is composed of people just like them but work for a large company behind the scenes.
Big guys play hard to and work just as hard as the smaller ones I wanted to break that mindset and in the middle of this dance without any warning I get crushed, terminated and ridiculed.

I am not easy to understand I admit that...
I get bummed out sometimes, sometimes I make it a topic...
Just to have conversations that can be fun.
But most importantly I barred myself from doing any repping publicly and for VERY GOOD FUCKIN REASONS...

Ya can ask people how I have hit side pockets for em...
Its happened recently and has happened MANY times before.

Infact this very thread just might get ya more affiliates, its a very good read I think...

Thanks for showing the humanity in us all.
Make no mistake I had high respects for you guys over there I guess I just didnt fit in and I am OK with that.

Take care of your self bro I mean it.

And on this note...

This is the very last post from the ALIENQ handle...
If ya not followed my recent actions I contemplated removing this handle last night and going to a new one since some of you over there were figuring out who I am walkin in your building.
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AlienQ and Vividleslie --

I never thought I would see the day where da' Boss Coach tackles the employee quarterback in a public message board.

I bet nothing was acomplished but role ambiguity and awkwardness looking the both of you for the next work day.

I was reading this thread and I did not take Aliens post as being harmful or misrepresenting of Vivid...he was just generalizing and yamming......not to be taken serious.

Alien is creative, and has always found more cost effective ways of getting things done...that comes from being a self starter for many years.

I would hate to know this little thread which started on a light note is gonna cause a breach between the team of Alien and Leslie.

I think you all need to take this off the boards, allow us to thank you both for the drama and entertainment, and COME TO the realization that everything is gonna be fine in the morning.....

No harm done, and lets keep it this way....

We all know I have alot more to say and alot more of what I want to say but I have held back for now.....

I like Alien and have always admired hsi work, character assasinations are pointless.

Leslie you hired Alien, you all have to learn each others ways and know when to react and when to laugh something off....

So you both got alot of work to do, because there is not question Alien will produce at the office and you will get what you paid for.

Do not judge him from the boards, judge him on performance.

If he fucks up, fire him.

If he pleases you, allow him to spew diatribe, he has done this for years and its all part of his charm :-)))

HANG in their ALIEN, you rock babee :-))

I agree with most of this....EXCEPT....

The main reason that I can't stand working for others is because I got tired of having to supress my opinions as expected by the various companies. You are there to do a job and they expect you to do it their way with no questions asked.

It does not matter if you can offer them a way to build a bigger and better mousetrap. They leave that up to the supervisors to brain storm those ideas and the sups are not the people who deal with this shit on the front lines every day.

I respect Leslie but it blows me away that she, as a "supervisor" of the not even mentioned company, would come to a public forum and attack the employee. If it was her own company and that is how she wanted to handle things then more power to her.....But Leslie does not own Vivid....as far as I know.

Like I replied to Alien right after he started this thread:

"This is not a good sign."
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It doesn't make you a bad guy, but it doesn't make you a good guy or a cool guy either. It's your life, live it how you want to live it. If you can live with a 9-5 dont do it, but dont go bitching when you cant buy want you need or want to buy.

I dont think it has anything to do with work ethic, it could have to do with a problem with autority, or somethin else.
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In all actuality this is a case of, "It just did not work out" and its not up to us to dissect the why's. Everyone has the right to speak their mind, and I have yet to not see ramifications for doing so.

This issue is between AlienQ and Leslie, and if they work it out, thats great and if they do not, there is nothing odd about admitting incompatibilities for what ever reason exists.

I would chalk this up to creative indifferences, and hope they part friends and family.

Alien established himself years ago in the design world and has done well.

Leslie has established herself as a chica' with brains and has done consulting work for BabeNet, the former company known as CyberErotica, and is in management with VIVID which was probably the first video comany you jacked off too :-)))

Sometimes the best of skill talent is not compatible with a certain team build, it happens all the time in the corporate world.

The words were spoken well above when it was basically stated when you join a particular organization it is implied you do it according to their protocol.....that is correct. If you cannot, it will not work out.....

It does not mean either party is a failure, all it means is it was not a match made in heaven, and the relationship ends hopefully on a positive note.

If one flavor met all criteria in the world of business, 31 flavors would have never been appealing as ice cream.

AlienQ is delictable designer but not the flavor Leslie had hoped for. Does not make AlienQ a bad choice of taste, it just means Leslie remains on the hunt currently for a more palletable choice.

If I had to relate myself to a flavor, I would probably say I am a cross between dill pickle and Godiva :-))
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