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Old 09-06-2004, 07:24 PM   #51
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they were a r n' r band

this way by awarding Stones as the greatest rock band we cover 2 major music categories with gems
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The Beatles were definitely a rock and roll band.
Yes, "Yellow Submarine" just makes you bang your hand like crazy. Dude, pull your head out of your ass, the Beatles, while highly influencial, were a POP band and nothing else.
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Yes, "Yellow Submarine" just makes you bang your hand like crazy. Dude, pull your head out of your ass, the Beatles, while highly influencial, were a POP band and nothing else.
You are obviously unfamiliar with their entire body of work.

Yeah, "A Day in the Life" was such a great pop song.

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This is impossible to pick. I have to say that the Doors are one of my fav bands. On the other hand I love the Beatles, The Sex Pistols, Led Zepplin and Jimmi Hendrix.

Too tough to call!
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Yes, "Yellow Submarine" just makes you bang your hand like crazy. Dude, pull your head out of your ass, the Beatles, while highly influencial, were a POP band and nothing else.
Just look around, and you will find why they put that song on LP. There is a reason for that (quick hint - it has something with Ringo Starr)...
If you look at four of them, you will see that only PM made POP career...
And one more thing... We are talking about music which was made almost 40 years ago...
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but love me do was a great rock song? :-)
You are missing the point, The Beatles, unlike say The Rolling Stones or Metallica didn't stick to one genre of music. They explored at one time or another, virtually every musical genre known... elements of country, classical, vaudville, psychedelic, Indian, motown and blues permeate their music.

But any real student of The Beatles knows that the greatest influence on them was 50's rockers like Buddy Holly and Chubby Checker.

Saying that the Beatles were a "pop group" is nothing more than gross ignorance.

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You are missing the point, The Beatles, unlike say The Rolling Stones or Metallica didn't stick to one genre of music. They explored at one time or another, virtually every musical genre known... elements of country, classical, vaudville, psychedelic, Indian, motown and blues permeate their music.

But any real student of The Beatles knows that the greatest influence on them was 50's rockers like Buddy Holly and Chubby Checker.

Saying that the Beatles were a "pop group" is nothing more than gross ignorance.
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You are missing the point, The Beatles, unlike say The Rolling Stones or Metallica didn't stick to one genre of music.
Stones didnt stick to one genre either. They have rock, jazz, reggae, blues songs and so on. We can argue for decades since I'm fan of both I wouldn't call them pop myself too. I hear many people calling beatles like the first pop group, but as you said that limits them a lot. We gotta stick to rock n' roll title
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Stones didnt stick to one genre either. They have rock, jazz, reggae, blues songs and so on.
True, except The Beatles stopped recording together in 1969. ;)
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Yes, "Yellow Submarine" just makes you bang your hand like crazy. Dude, pull your head out of your ass, the Beatles, while highly influencial, were a POP band and nothing else.
You have got to be kidding.

Helter Skelter
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The list goes on and on. No offense, but anyone who thinks the Beatles were ot a rock band should not be telling other people to get their heads out of their asses.

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Fuck the Beatles, they were just a hippie version of today's Brit pop, they were never a rock band.

There can be only one: Metallica.
Give me a break with this Metallica shit, they're best song doesnt come close to the Beatles worst. The fuckin Monkees would rate higher than Metallica.
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Give me a break with this Metallica shit, they're best song doesnt come close to the Beatles worst. The fuckin Monkees would rate higher than Metallica.
HORSE SHIT, LOL. Metallica is a fuck load better than pooftah fucking beetles!! Infact, they run a very close second to AC/DC..
Have you even heard any Metallica, besides the 'Load' album?.. Geez
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As someone who lived through it I can tell you the Beatles changed everything. Listening to White Album & Sgt Peppers for the first time was awesome.

But not to forget the contribution made by these.

Bob Dylan, suddenly lyrics could mean something.
The Who or more Pete Townsend. Tommy is a masterpiece.
Pink Floyd, look at the sales of Dark Side and not a "Pop" record.

The Stones, Santana, Steppenwolf, The Who and Zepplin were all great live bands.

Clapton, Hendrix, Skynard, Alvin Lee, Page were all great guitarists.

Unfortunately I can hardly think of two bands formed after 75 who hold a candle to any of these. Any ideas why this was a Golden Time for music and now it's just dross?
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HORSE SHIT, LOL. Metallica is a fuck load better than pooftah fucking beetles!! Infact, they run a very close second to AC/DC..
Have you even heard any Metallica, besides the 'Load' album?.. Geez
Metallica play loud boy music.

Whether it's inventive, trend setting or timeless is very doubtful.
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As someone who lived through it I can tell you the Beatles changed everything. Listening to White Album & Sgt Peppers for the first time was awesome.

But not to forget the contribution made by these.

Bob Dylan, suddenly lyrics could mean something.
The Who or more Pete Townsend. Tommy is a masterpiece.
Pink Floyd, look at the sales of Dark Side and not a "Pop" record.

The Stones, Santana, Steppenwolf, The Who and Zepplin were all great live bands.

Clapton, Hendrix, Skynard, Alvin Lee, Page were all great guitarists.

Unfortunately I can hardly think of two bands formed after 75 who hold a candle to any of these. Any ideas why this was a Golden Time for music and now it's just dross?
It'd be too difficult for me to tell which is my favorite rock band. Zeppelin would be high on the list, but there are groups like the Beatles that are phenomenol. Their music sounds "poppish" by today's standards but it's just incredible. The melodies and harmonies they made are taken for granted now and seem 'simple'. If they didn't exist you'd be hard pressed to find any group able to come up with the tunes they did. The Who, Hendrix, and Rolling Stones would be in there too.

On your point about after 1975. There are plenty of groups that continued the tradition of amazing music. Pearl Jam, Aerosmith (ok maybe they started in '73? I forget), and U2 to name some.

I don't know if we get stuck in a time period and atrophy but I feel the same way you do but the date changes; instead of 1975, maybe more like 2000. Nothing I've heard since then compares to the bands listed here. Part of this is that I simply don't listen to what's out now so I wouldn't know if there is a great group or not. I'd rather not be bombarded with hundreds of less than mediocre bands to find the new shining star.

What I wouldn't include in my list of favorite groups/artists are those that have a tradition of being overrated (Pink Floyd) or which became famous because of the mystic or cult aspect of the vocalist (The Doors - yes they were orginal but aside from the song "People Are Strange", there really isn't a great catalogue there; Jim Morrison is a cult icon and that's why The Doors legacy persists). I wouldn't include AC/DC (great band, but not enough variety - they follow a format you can predict for the most part) or Metallica (great band but more bad/rough guy image association and poor singing which does sound good with the music though).

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Here's some important pioneering bands though:

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As someone who lived through it I can tell you the Beatles changed everything. Listening to White Album & Sgt Peppers for the first time was awesome.

But not to forget the contribution made by these.

Bob Dylan, suddenly lyrics could mean something.
The Who or more Pete Townsend. Tommy is a masterpiece.
Pink Floyd, look at the sales of Dark Side and not a "Pop" record.

The Stones, Santana, Steppenwolf, The Who and Zepplin were all great live bands.

Clapton, Hendrix, Skynard, Alvin Lee, Page were all great guitarists.

Unfortunately I can hardly think of two bands formed after 75 who hold a candle to any of these. Any ideas why this was a Golden Time for music and now it's just dross?
ummm charley, sorry to break it to you mate, but shhh ( you got a little older )
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As someone who lived through it I can tell you the Beatles changed everything. Listening to White Album & Sgt Peppers for the first time was awesome.

But not to forget the contribution made by these.

Bob Dylan, suddenly lyrics could mean something.
The Who or more Pete Townsend. Tommy is a masterpiece.
Pink Floyd, look at the sales of Dark Side and not a "Pop" record.

The Stones, Santana, Steppenwolf, The Who and Zepplin were all great live bands.

Clapton, Hendrix, Skynard, Alvin Lee, Page were all great guitarists.

Unfortunately I can hardly think of two bands formed after 75 who hold a candle to any of these. Any ideas why this was a Golden Time for music and now it's just dross?

I agree with ya. Although there were a few groups from the 80's that were decent, such as The Police, Genesis, Van Halen, none of them had the same depth as the supergroups from the 70's. Even the groups that continued on for decades for the most part put their best stuff out in that time. The only exception I can think of is Floyd with Animals and The Wall, both masterpieces. Even then Animals was put out in I think 1977 or 78.

I've always felt it was the record companies that fucked up music, pushing the airwaves with this Madonna and Wham crap in the eighties and it just went on from there.
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I agree with ya. Although there were a few groups from the 80's that were decent, such as The Police, Genesis, Van Halen, none of them had the same depth as the supergroups from the 70's. Even the groups that continued on for decades for the most part put their best stuff out in that time. The only exception I can think of is Floyd with Animals and The Wall, both masterpieces. Even then Animals was put out in I think 1977 or 78.

I've always felt it was the record companies that fucked up music, pushing the airwaves with this Madonna and Wham crap in the eighties and it just went on from there.
Naw the music industry isn't to blame. The well dried up. Like you said, all the groups that continued on didn't put out anything decent any longer. Groups like Guns N Roses and Nirvana that came along later had just as much depth as those 70's supergroups and are actually better than most of them.
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:10 AM   #97
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beatles definitly own ... my father got all their cds :P

Led Zep owns too ... and pink floyd
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:59 AM   #98
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Led Zep, listening to them now!
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Old 09-07-2004, 06:02 AM   #99
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whats your opinion?

beatles, stones, floyd....etc....
The beatles for sure. They rocked!!
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Old 09-07-2004, 06:02 AM   #100
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i love firehouse & metallica's love songs
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