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Old 02-23-2005, 08:10 PM   #51
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50 winers.

Steve I would settle this as soon as possible...before she gets the other girls thinking.

We might see the first Solo Girl Union
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:10 PM   #52
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I will get a job at Arby's down the street.


Tell her she hired
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are you stupid? do you read before replying???? 2000/month was a severance package!!!
He says severance but she says its to be exclusive to lightspeed .That doesnt sound like severance.
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OK, so she got paid an average of $2708 a week plus change. That is actually VERY HIGH for a single girl model to get paid and Steve actually is considered to be an industry spoiler because he pays his models a pretty high sum for softcore porn.

Well, Tammy, I hope you find another goose that lays golden eggs because Steve is the only one that I know of. Most single girl models make $500 a session (1 session a week) or less.
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I think if you have the content done, and you're paying her for doing nothing now as it is... and she wants to go... let her go. You lose nothing, infact, save a lot.

I think she'll be in for quite a reality shock if she does push for other companies to take her.
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Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

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makes things a little clearer, good luck Steve
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I think it doesnt help when you talk about making millions on this board . It tends to make people feel like they are being slighted even if they are not .
Its not what you make, its what you keep. Does everyone expect me to promote Tawnee and give her ALL the profits? How much should the thousands of hours of work me and my staff have spent promoting her be worth?

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She'll be doing DP in two months, and banging down Steve's door in 3.
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Steve it was a good run with her but sounds like she is causing more problems than it's worth specially when there are a lot more willing to take her place.

Time to let her go.
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OK, so she got paid an average of $2708 a week plus change. That is actually VERY HIGH for a single girl model to get paid and Steve actually is considered to be an industry spoiler because he pays his models a pretty high sum for softcore porn.

Well, Tammy, I hope you find another goose that lays golden eggs because Steve is the only one that I know of. Most single girl models make $500 a session (1 session a week) or less.
Tell me if Im wrong but she was the face to launch light speed .She had that very unique look that did well for lightspeed. Now we all know there is more to a website then a face but girls dont see that.
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Hopefully the first crew she decides to go work for is Max Hardcore & gang. He'll give her what she deserves.
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Its not what you make, its what you keep. Does everyone expect me to promote Tawnee and give her ALL the profits? How much should the thousands of hours of work me and my staff have spent promoting her be worth?

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Sounds like you have been more than generous regarding compensation. No other company will pay her what you did. She will find that out very soon.
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retract your severance offer and even if no other companies take her in... don't let her come back... teach her to ungreatful and lose her house
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Its not what you make, its what you keep. Does everyone expect me to promote Tawnee and give her ALL the profits? How much should the thousands of hours of work me and my staff have spent promoting her be worth?

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Your preaching to the choir but models see we have made millions and thats all they see. Thats why its better to say we have done well instead.
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Didn't a similar thing just happen with "Kenzie Kenner"?
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#4 And all you do is fucking whine..Put me on ignore then you fucking crybaby I can post whatever the fuck I want
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well i guess it could be true
but Steve as it is already said in this thread
let her go - she IS getting old .. real life as well as her content

Hotter girls are coming more and more every day.....once you let her go she will try to go to another company... sure she will get picked up.. some company will flip and pay a stupid amount to get her and when they try to sell her - they will see she is OLD now ... no one wants to see tawnee anymore ... they want to see tawnee years ago

I was wondering when the end of her would be... i guess now would be a good time?

She is sorta threating you - you can spend a month searching MAX and find someone who will make you 1000x more than tawnee will Steve


Let her go and let her realize what this industry is really like for content girls

she will try crawling back to you once she finds out what it is really like and not having a cushy contract
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actually she probably has a big member fan base that will follow her chris ^
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retract your severance offer and even if no other companies take her in... don't let her come back... teach her to ungreatful and lose her house
I could name 10 companies that would snap her up in a blink.
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Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

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She made $130k last year and would have been in danger of losing her house this year if you didn't pay her 2k a month? What the hell does she do with her money?
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Wow.

Interesting

maybe if she was WORKING! providing NEW content, but if he's using shit she was already paid for prior and she's not doing anything, $2k seems more than sufficient. Tell her she can sign up as an affiliate and make some $ on selling her own stuff if she wants more cash!
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Couple side notes

1) I didn't renew her contract because she refuses to do anything but softcore, for any price. I offered her $25k for a one-hour POV that she refused.

2) I own the trademark to the name Tawnee Stone, she can't use it when she leaves.

3) She is now 4 years older, and not the 18 year old star that she was.

4) She causes a lot of drama in my studio with our other models, constantly reminding them that she is the #1 girl.
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actually she probably has a big member fan base that will follow her chris ^
im sure steve owns the copywrite to tawnee stone
and he said he has stock pile of content to last him awhile

she does NOT look the same anymore - she is AGING

sure she goes to a new company but guess what ... under a new name and steve can still keep updating tawneestone with fresh content that her surfers want to see
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i hope this situation works out best for steve....what can i say....i am a fan!
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retract your severance offer and even if no other companies take her in... don't let her come back... teach her to ungreatful and lose her house
Negative... some of the other girls look up to her (even if she is a bitch).

I think $2000 a month for nothing is pretty good. If the site is going to stay up and continue to make cash, I'd offer her something more or different in terms of percentage. But I'd also do this quietly and make her sign something to keep the negotiations terms a secret.

The last thing you need is Jordan to leave too... So basically you need to base your decisions on not just what Tawnee Stone is going to do to you, but what the other top sellers will also do.

Think in terms of the Lakers... They are fucked and are holding on to the last playoff spot by a thread. Yes, even you can go from Millionair to less than zero in a year or two. It is better to keep her around and happy then to have the girls think you are an asshole. Especially if Tawnee finds a company that will take her in.

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Steve you should have had a salary cap to manage your talent.
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Steve probably never heard of this girl but there was a girl who was a PHENOMENON within the Ebony Big Booty niche and her name was Miss Thickness. She hit the scene a few years ago with Missthickness.com and EVERYBODY was kissing her ass...Then she got uppity and went from person to person trying to get more money than she was probably getting with the person who made her famous.

Now she has some .net site and she's probably making some money but I know for a fact that she couldn't possibly be making what she used to make....

When a girl gets hot online, her head swells up and she starts thinking that her pussy is worth more than it actually is. This happens with strippers, prostitutes, and now it's happening with internet models.

Pimpin ain't easy. Even the best pimps have hoes walking out on them from time to time. Don't sweat it. You still have a LARGE stable of new bitches so fuck her.
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Couple side notes

1) I didn't renew her contract because she refuses to do anything but softcore, for any price. I offered her $25k for a one-hour POV that she refused.

2) I own the trademark to the name Tawnee Stone, she can't use it when she leaves.

3) She is now 4 years older, and not the 18 year old star that she was.

4) She causes a lot of drama in my studio with our other models, constantly reminding them that she is the #1 girl.
steve is there any real question then?

let her go - take that 25k and go find a new tawnee
make it a world search
or up the reward for someone to find you the next tawnee to what her greedy ass wants to be paid

show her that you DONT need her


i think you have just had her to long and you dont want to let go
maybe you got a little attached to her - i know i would get attached to a money machine that she WAS ( and still will be sence you own the name and content )

you know what ya gotta do
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it so much easier when your married to your model lol
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YARGH me hearties, As God is my witness, I'll rape and pillage any website taking the pretty Miss Stone away from the good ship Steve.
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actually she probably has a big member fan base that will follow her chris ^
Follow her? Steve has years of content to update with... her "fan base" would never know she was gone. They may find another site with a girl that looks identical to Tawnee Stone but has a different name.
But they won't leave tawneestone.com because for all the members know, she'll still be there.
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She's a drama queen.. this is funny as hell.. like the E! True Hollywood story, only its porn!
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Negative... some of the other girls look up to her (even if she is a bitch).

I think $2000 a month for nothing is pretty good. If the site is going to stay up and continue to make cash, I'd offer her something more or different in terms of percentage. But I'd also do this quietly and make her sign something to keep the negotiations terms a secret.

The last thing you need is Jordan to leave too... So basically you need to base your decisions on not just what Tawnee Stone is going to do to you, but what the other top sellers will also do.

Think in terms of the Lakers... They are fucked and are holding on to the last playoff spot by a thread. Yes, even you can go from Millionair to less than zero in a year or two. It is better to keep her around and happy then to have the girls think you are an asshole. Especially if Tawnee finds a company that will take her in.
i doubt the girls will leave lightspeed if tawnee does

as steve said she causes drama with the other girls

im sure jordan would like to be #1 for awhile
and that will happeni f tawnee leaves

im sure jordan is getting close to beating tawnee in sales anyways
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Wow, how quickly everyone turns...

Steve, what are your views on her moving elsewhere? Do you think that any other programs will have sufficient pull to promote the "new" Tawnee site or will it just fall in a heap with most of the net still following the updates on tawneestone.com ? I presume you have plenty of content to keep it going.

Was the $2k per month to remain exclusive to LS ("have a break, do nothing for any adult company including ours") or was it unconditional?
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Surely the $24,000 involves a non-compete clause so she CAN'T do other web work.

So it's not like she's doing NOTHING, she's sacrificing potential income if she teamed up with another sponsor (which most likely she could do).
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Wow, how quickly everyone turns...

Steve, what are your views on her moving elsewhere? Do you think that any other programs will have sufficient pull to promote the "new" Tawnee site or will it just fall in a heap with most of the net still following the updates on tawneestone.com ? I presume you have plenty of content to keep it going.

Was the $2k per month to remain exclusive to LS ("have a break, do nothing for any adult company including ours") or was it unconditional?
no other site can make a new tawnee site
it will have to be like awnee one lol
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YARGH me hearties, As God is my witness, I'll rape and pillage any website taking the pretty Miss Stone away from the good ship Steve.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:30 PM   #96
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Surely the $24,000 involves a non-compete clause so she CAN'T do other web work.

So it's not like she's doing NOTHING, she's sacrificing potential income if she teamed up with another sponsor (which most likely she could do).
im sure it was 24k to stay exclusive to lightspeed yes

everyone wants tawnee 18 years old
not tawnee 21+
she wont make any cash with any other company unless she starts doing hardcore and steve said he has tried everything to get her to do it
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:30 PM   #97
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Not at all. Tawnee was paid over $130k last year. We have stockpiled an enormous amount of content of her, and she refuses to do anything more than simple nudity. I offered her $24k over the next 12 month for DOING NOTHING. The $2000/month was a severance deal, I didn't want her to lose her new house.

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Wow, this model was nothing before you made her into a star. You paid her over $130k last year just for posing nude and she still wants more money? Unbelievable.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:32 PM   #98
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You already know my take on it.

If shes shopping a deal then fuck her. DOnt pay her a dime. If she wont accept the 2k a month for doing nothing after all you have paid her then again, fuck her.

Any program that picked her up would be commiting industy suicide. Not only that, shes the most branded name girl on the internet. Shes branded as hell making her worthless as anything but Tawnee Stone.

She might find a job doing DP with two big black dude, but other then that... she has ZERO value for anyone.

Kick her bitchy ass out and let her see how good she had it. No need to be nice Steve, you know as well as I do she would fuck you over without thinking about it.
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Well about 4 weeks ago (Steve knows about this) Tawnee did contact me, to make a single girl website for her. As much as I would love to, I cannot 'burn any bridges' as they say, and told her I couldn't.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:36 PM   #100
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let her go dude, you paid her well and she is getting spoiled, you can find another gal
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