Should YOU be penalised for Chargebacks? - GoFuckYourself.com

d00t · 04-09-2005, 07:28 AM

Some sponsors will 'charge' you, or take back the signup $ paid to you.

What do you think? Is it fair? Should they penalise you the webmaster or is this something they should worry about?

Corleone · 04-09-2005, 07:33 AM

I'm on -39,95 at bangbrosonline now ;)

edit : $-17.00 now.. just got a rebill :

Lycanthrope · 04-09-2005, 08:11 AM

I have mixed feelings on this. I understand the deduction. There is no way they should eat the money for every asshat that charges back after downloading 1/2 the content, however, if the surfer is charging back because the site really sucks, well, that isn't the affiliates fault. Bottom line, if sponsor "A" has a lot of chargebacks, move on to sponsor "B".

chemicaleyes · 04-09-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

I have mixed feelings on this. I understand the deduction. There is no way they should eat the money for every asshat that charges back after downloading 1/2 the content, however, if the surfer is charging back because the site really sucks, well, that isn't the affiliates fault. Bottom line, if sponsor "A" has a lot of chargebacks, move on to sponsor "B".

Theo · 04-09-2005, 08:19 AM

does it really make any difference?

Wizzo · 04-09-2005, 08:20 AM

I see no problem with splitting CBs or credits on a partnership, because that's the nature of the relationship... split the good and the bad...

But per signups that do this, is a little less on the level... The whole point of PPS is to eat the bad ones, and benefit from the good ones to balance them out paying a flat fee... So if a sponsor only pays for the good ones and burns you for CBs or refunds they are really just taking you to the barbershop for a nice shave...

sean416 · 04-09-2005, 08:20 AM

I dont like it, but I can live with it.

GoodStuff · 04-09-2005, 08:21 AM

It's the only way to keep affiliate advertising honest. If an affiliate has a lot of chargebacks then it is probably because he/she is mis-representing the sites in some way. I rarely have any chargebacks and I promote several programs (maybe once every three months).

What if the surfer sees a gallery with content that is not in the site, but he joined the site hoping to see the full set for that girl. Is that the sponsor's fault or the affiliate's fault?

As has been stated if the site has a lot of chargbacks move on.

justsexxx · 04-09-2005, 08:23 AM

Well, I think when an affiliate did send a member who did chargeback, we can deduct that money we paid from the same affiliate. We know our memberarea's are good, and fast. Of course we can pay some chargebacks, but I'm afraid when ppl know, ahh those guys even pay on chargebacks, all cheaters will come to us, and start pushing us, with crap.

d00t · 04-09-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Well, I think when an affiliate did send a member who did chargeback, we can deduct that money we paid from the same affiliate. We know our memberarea's are good, and fast. Of course we can pay some chargebacks, but I'm afraid when ppl know, ahh those guys even pay on chargebacks, all cheaters will come to us, and start pushing us, with crap.

Once the surfer hits the site it's entirely up to the sponsor to make it work IMO.

Saying that, I think if you are going to penalise a webmaster for sending shitty traffic on PER SIGNUP, you should be rewarding them for sending GOOD CLEAN traffic. I know pimpinpays does reward healthy traffic

04-09-2005, 07:28 AM	#1
d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	Should YOU be penalised for Chargebacks? Some sponsors will 'charge' you, or take back the signup $ paid to you. What do you think? Is it fair? Should they penalise you the webmaster or is this something they should worry about?

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Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	I'm on -39,95 at bangbrosonline now ;) edit : $-17.00 now.. just got a rebill : Last edited by Corleone; 04-09-2005 at 07:34 AM..

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Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	I have mixed feelings on this. I understand the deduction. There is no way they should eat the money for every asshat that charges back after downloading 1/2 the content, however, if the surfer is charging back because the site really sucks, well, that isn't the affiliates fault. Bottom line, if sponsor "A" has a lot of chargebacks, move on to sponsor "B". __________________

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Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,226	I see no problem with splitting CBs or credits on a partnership, because that's the nature of the relationship... split the good and the bad... But per signups that do this, is a little less on the level... The whole point of PPS is to eat the bad ones, and benefit from the good ones to balance them out paying a flat fee... So if a sponsor only pays for the good ones and burns you for CBs or refunds they are really just taking you to the barbershop for a nice shave... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

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sean416 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,633	I dont like it, but I can live with it. __________________ ServerProvider.com

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,524	does it really make any difference?

04-09-2005, 08:21 AM	#8
GoodStuff Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 511	It's the only way to keep affiliate advertising honest. If an affiliate has a lot of chargebacks then it is probably because he/she is mis-representing the sites in some way. I rarely have any chargebacks and I promote several programs (maybe once every three months). What if the surfer sees a gallery with content that is not in the site, but he joined the site hoping to see the full set for that girl. Is that the sponsor's fault or the affiliate's fault? As has been stated if the site has a lot of chargbacks move on.

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justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Well, I think when an affiliate did send a member who did chargeback, we can deduct that money we paid from the same affiliate. We know our memberarea's are good, and fast. Of course we can pay some chargebacks, but I'm afraid when ppl know, ahh those guys even pay on chargebacks, all cheaters will come to us, and start pushing us, with crap. __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542