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jimthefiend · 05-24-2006, 11:34 AM

Just so everyone knows, this isn't pennies either. A couple of grand changed hands.

Alien = thief, scammer and liar

woj · 05-24-2006, 11:35 AM

kanalj · 05-24-2006, 11:38 AM

Here's a question from someone who has not been around long enough to see how these thing usually are handled: If hes such a thief, scammer and liar why isnt he banned?

Rebecca Love · 05-24-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

your bot acting up woj?

Sly · 05-24-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kanalj

Here's a question from someone who has not been around long enough to see how these thing usually are handled: If hes such a thief, scammer and liar why isnt he banned?

Anybody can be accused of being a thief, liar, and scammer. It isn't the boards responsibility to ensure that every member is on the "up and up". It wouldn't even be possible.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2006, 11:45 AM

Yup. A couple grand changed hands a tour design and an affiliates program design, a members section.
Full consultation was givin about the various methods to open a program, what scripts are available estimated costs of those scripts, which included discussions on CCBILL, NATS, MPA, cascade processing.

Over 20 different versions of the aff program alone.

A Members section design, designed twice.
Extensive consultation on members section, security and basic set ups.

A tour design, featuring flash, delivery of source files, font files, and even extra stuff. The tour under went 2 complete revisions and are not template tours. It is unique and will kick ass in the field.

The design for this project was done over 1.5 months ago and I repeatedly provided links to the source files and source PSD's.

I am the one that got ripped off, and this thread once again damages me and my work. Its not worth continuing on this matter.

MaddCaz · 05-24-2006, 11:46 AM

wow call out!!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2006, 11:51 AM

JimTheFiend loves the attention.

It must suck to be a no talent sig whore that involves himself in everyones business without having the slightest clue.

psili · 05-24-2006, 11:51 AM

This is a text-book "Two sides to every story" thread.

Kind of sad, though.

dissipate · 05-24-2006, 11:54 AM

Jim, you're just making yourself look less and less intelligent by bumping this thread, which you had nothing to do with from the get-go.

Stick to pictures of your pond. I like those.

The Ghost · 05-24-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Web Lass

Mmmmm, coffee and danish.

That sounds really good..... brb

TDF · 05-24-2006, 01:00 PM

I cant believe anyone would be stupid enough to do buisness wit Alien

jimthefiend · 05-24-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

Jim, you're just making yourself look less and less intelligent by bumping this thread, which you had nothing to do with from the get-go.

Stick to pictures of your pond. I like those.

I think I explained how I got involved in this and why dude.

lazycash · 05-24-2006, 01:57 PM

So I guess someone is lying, Alien says the work is done and the client has had access to it. The client says they still haven't received what they paid for, interesting.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2006, 02:00 PM

I got people that owe me money and work all the time and even now...Its always that way. I can't count the number of times clients never paid me over the years.

It's the nature of things.
Don't see me sniveling about it on the boards, nor putting non educated fucks upto shit they have no clue about...

If you are a designer or developer these days be prepared to deal with very unprofessional people. People that think Boards are the catch all to business.

People will usually over work you and under pay you these days and even if you do a good job and go above means to make a project work they will still push you around.

We've reached the bottom of the barel and its true...

Most folks these days needing work really think you owe them the world and then some when they get you a couple hundred bucks and never rule out character assassination in the public eye when its deemed in the slightest issue.
I wont play this game anymore.

Ya want a good deal in design, and ya always get your money's worth in being a professional with mutual respect at my shop.

Ya fuck me, I will take your money.
I have no qualms about it these days its that simple.

dv2 · 05-24-2006, 02:05 PM

okay i guess i'm curious...it looks like the work was done according to some links alien posted in this thread.

is there a huge gap in this story? we've had work done by Alien and were pleased with the results.

Deraj · 05-24-2006, 02:08 PM

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dv2

okay i guess i'm curious...it looks like the work was done according to some links alien posted in this thread.

is there a huge gap in this story? we've had work done by Alien and were pleased with the results.

The gap is simple.The clients had no idea what they are doing.

The clients decided to contact JimTheFiend to conduct Character assassination.

When this was created I still had work to do for there order which is like 5 banners and a flash component for the aff program and the aff program script integration is no where nears ready. If I did the flash component they would just have me re do the flash component when the program launches because there would be updates they didnt know about.

Other than that.

EVERYTHING was delivered repeatedly.
Source files and HTML cuts and templates.
Everything.

So they can do the rest of this project at this point, let them find some sucker designer in Europe or Korea to do the lousy 20 bucks in banners and 80 bucks or so flash.

lazycash · 05-24-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dv2

okay i guess i'm curious...it looks like the work was done according to some links alien posted in this thread.

is there a huge gap in this story? we've had work done by Alien and were pleased with the results.

What am I missing, I don't see any links posted by Alienq.

dv2 · 05-24-2006, 02:31 PM

Which can be viewed here:
http://www.ialien.com/roxie/index.html
With flash integrated.

And AFF Program design.
http://www.ialien.com/vialia/

This is on page one of this growing thread.

lazycash · 05-24-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dv2

Which can be viewed here:
http://www.ialien.com/roxie/index.html
With flash integrated.

And AFF Program design.
http://www.ialien.com/vialia/

This is on page one of this growing thread.

Ah, thanks, I guess he just doesn't want to complete the work he contracted for. Seems like a huge communication mishap as the client is saying they just now got some of the work today and alien is saying they had it a month ago.

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Full consultation was givin about the various methods to open a program, what scripts are available estimated costs of those scripts, which included discussions on CCBILL, NATS, MPA, cascade processing.

That ?full consultation? consisted of what? One or two short telephone calls? In which you bashed NATS and Albright and pimped MPA.

And now in a more recent post you?re saying that the problem is that the client doesn?t know what they?re doing. Well, if that?s so, it doesn?t bode well for your ?consultation? now does it.

It also speaks volumes that my initial posts to this thread were simply asking you for the rest of what we?re due for what we paid you, and when you show up you?re in full asshole bash hate mode. Way to resolve your paying client?s issues.

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Over 20 different versions of the aff program alone.

Those ?20 different versions? consist of a lot of very minor easy adjustments. Such as just changing fonts to see what looked nice. The whole of the design remained the same.

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

A Members section design, designed twice.

You gave us an initial design and were asked to change the colors. The COLORS. That?s so minor and small. I admit we were being picky (we told you we were picky from the get-go and you said that was good because we knew what we wanted, and now you use that to bash us), but the adjustments weren?t catastrophic or time consuming.

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Extensive consultation on members section, security and basic set ups.

I just have to LOL at that one. You gave us one teeny tiny page for the member?s area. I had to build all of the other pages and even some of the graphics myself. I?ve never worked on a project before where the client received ONE page for the member?s area with incomplete graphics to boot.

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

A tour design, featuring flash, delivery of source files, font files, and even extra stuff.

What extra stuff?

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

The design for this project was done over 1.5 months ago and I repeatedly provided links to the source files and source PSD's.

Then where is my flash and banners? I don?t have it because it?s not done. Therefore the entirety of the designs for this project were not finished 1.5 months ago since I?m still waiting on things you promised to have finished over a month ago.

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

this thread once again damages me and my work.

No. You damage your own work and reputation with your slow, half-assed delivery, and continuous broken promises. You should never have to chase down and beg a hired designer for what you paid for.

And yeah, this is gonna sound like ?he-said, she-said? to anyone who doesn?t know you for what you really are, but everyone that has been burned by you before is gonna shake their head and pity the people who fell into Alien?s delusional little world.

Prove me wrong and give us our flash and banners.

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Ah, thanks, I guess he just doesn't want to complete the work he contracted for. Seems like a huge communication mishap as the client is saying they just now got some of the work today and alien is saying they had it a month ago.

It's not a communication mishap. We've had *most* of the design work from Alien (I never said we didn't have *any* of it) but I was still missing some PSD's -- which I got today -- and we're still missing some flash and banners. Which Alien is now openly refusing to finish.

lazycash · 05-24-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Web Lass

It's not a communication mishap. We've had *most* of the design work from Alien (I never said we didn't have *any* of it) but I was still missing some PSD's -- which I got today -- and we're still missing some flash and banners. Which Alien is now openly refusing to finish.

I see, is he at least willing to refund you for the part of the work he didn't complete since by his posts he doesn't seem too concerned about finishing the work.

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I see, is he at least willing to refund you for the part of the work he didn't complete since by his posts he doesn't seem too concerned about finishing the work.

No, he's never offered us a refund.

jimthefiend · 05-24-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I see, is he at least willing to refund you for the part of the work he didn't complete since by his posts he doesn't seem too concerned about finishing the work.

Lol @ him refunding anything. He's fucking BROKE and this thread is a perfect example of why.

Lets see:

All the work isnt done.
He ignored the customer for months.
He's refusing to complete the job.

I'd be looking into ways of charging back the initial payment at this point.

kanalj · 05-24-2006, 04:14 PM

I mean there's fucking yourself and there's fucking yourself, I think I have to bookmark this thread ^__^

Deej · 05-24-2006, 04:21 PM

Watch out for Llama poop

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej_E4A

Watch out for Llama poop

Finally! Thank you.

And you don't have to watch out for llama poop, they are very tidy with their poop and they all poop in the same organized piles.

*knows way too much about llamas*

L-Pink · 05-24-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

The gap is simple.The clients had no idea what they are doing.

The clients decided to contact JimTheFiend to conduct Character assassination.

When this was created I still had work to do for there order which is like 5 banners and a flash component for the aff program and the aff program script integration is no where nears ready. If I did the flash component they would just have me re do the flash component when the program launches because there would be updates they didnt know about.

Other than that.

EVERYTHING was delivered repeatedly.
Source files and HTML cuts and templates.
Everything.

So they can do the rest of this project at this point, let them find some sucker designer in Europe or Korea to do the lousy 20 bucks in banners and 80 bucks or so flash.

I thought they were a design company? Is this sub-contract work for a client of theirs?

Deej · 05-24-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Web Lass

Finally! Thank you.

And you don't have to watch out for llama poop, they are very tidy with their poop and they all poop in the same organized piles.

*knows way too much about llamas*

Funny, I always say that, and it is weird, they shit in one pile....and it gets big

good to know the facts are out there

Big John · 05-24-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

...things less interesting than the color of my underwear

So what color is your underwear today?

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I thought they were a design company? Is this sub-contract work for a client of theirs?

I just pimp my friend's design company in my sig.

Alien was hired to do separate design work for my partner and I.

MikeVega · 05-24-2006, 04:43 PM

At least I'm not the only one that found it impossible to work with this client .. and believe me it's hard to work with someone that thinks they know everything and really have no clue ...

not you Lass ... I know you have a good idea of how things work .. you did work for me for many months and always did a good job.

L-Pink · 05-24-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Web Lass

I just pimp my friend's design company in my sig.

Alien was hired to do separate design work for my partner and I.

Your home-page listed a design company, I'm looking for one, and based on this thread I was confused as shit.

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Your home-page listed a design company, I'm looking for one, and based on this thread I was confused as shit.

That's Mark Tiarra's design company. I highly recommend it.

Sorry for the confusion.

MikeVega · 05-24-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Your home-page listed a design company, I'm looking for one, and based on this thread I was confused as shit.

Mark does great designs and works very well with the client. He was a member of the Mobbucks team for our first year and designed all of our sites and the www.mobbucks.com program

>>>check him out <<<

L-Pink · 05-24-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVega

Mark does great designs and works very well with the client. He was a member of the Mobbucks team for our first year and designed all of our sites and the www.mobbucks.com program

>>>check him out <<<

Thanks Mike, you can see where someone might get confused.

psili · 05-24-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Web Lass

Finally! Thank you.

And you don't have to watch out for llama poop, they are very tidy with their poop and they all poop in the same organized piles.

*knows way too much about llamas*

I'm only replying because of this post:

I wish my dog shat like a llama in my back yard.

hezochiah · 05-24-2006, 05:31 PM

I think this is a good example of why a bad reputation is so much harder to lose than a good reutation is to build. I have no idea what happened, but seeing how there have been so many posts similar to this pertaining to AlienQ you have to take that into account. Goes to show that it's much better to handle your business and have good dealings with people because a bad rep travels so fast.

Deej · 05-24-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

I'm only replying because of this post:

I wish my dog shat like a llama in my back yard.

My Llama was here

kanalj · 05-24-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hezochiah

I think this is a good example of why a bad reputation is so much harder to lose than a good reutation is to build. I have no idea what happened, but seeing how there have been so many posts similar to this pertaining to AlienQ you have to take that into account. Goes to show that it's much better to handle your business and have good dealings with people because a bad rep travels so fast.

Amen to that brother.
Customer relations comes first, period.

dv2 · 05-24-2006, 05:44 PM

Yeah...i was just saying earlier that we had good results with Alien.

I don't know him personally but I guess I'd like to see him do well in this biz.

Alien, how about just giving them a little money back just for the karma points and the business reputation.

*i'll butt out know...slams door*

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dv2

Alien, how about just giving them a little money back just for the karma points and the business reputation.

Since Alien claims to be broke, I'd be very happy to just have the rest of the design work completed by him ASAP rather than a promise of a refund.

Besides, it seems there are other people he owes money to. Alien just needs to own up. Pay the people the money he owes, and finish providing the other people with the design and content he owes them and keeps promising.

Please and thank you.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2006, 06:01 PM

Nope.

No money will be givin back.

It is easy to get a bad reputation than get a good one.

I am gonna stick with a bad reputation. There are to many people ready to attack and ready. They sit around on the sidelines.

This is shot two fired from folks related to Tierra, and "Deals" gone wrong from that circle. I wont be fucked with and do not appreciate being gamed in this.

Frankly on the matter I never encouraged NATS or MPA. I encouraged to start out with a straight CCBILL and WTS option for a single site start which they are doing.

But looks like they are comfortable spending more and my client got talked into more than she needed to get started in the affiliates game.

So people should easily figure out where I sit.

I am not a hustler, or con, I do hard work and try to do very good work for clients. When thier actions fall into a "Hustle" I will always be apt to pull the plug and take whats mine in the deal.

Do not do business with me if you are the type of person always on the hustle, lookin for an angle, or a person looking to treat help with a "Pimp" pre disposition.

I WILL TAKE YOUR FUCKING MONEY when ya fuck with me. I been around a while.

I been fucked with two times now by the Tiara camp.
I wish Lia the best, I really do, but appearently we know who's information she is listening to at this point and who's offerings were far more expensive in the long run.

Its out of my hands.

TDF · 05-24-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Nope.

No money will be givin back.

It is easy to get a bad reputation than get a good one.

I am gonna stick with a bad reputation. There are to many people ready to attack and ready. They sit around on the sidelines.

This is shot two fired from folks related to Tierra, and "Deals" gone wrong from that circle. I wont be fucked with and do not appreciate being gamed in this.

Frankly on the matter I never encouraged NATS or MPA. I encouraged to start out with a straight CCBILL and WTS option for a single site start which they are doing.

But looks like they are comfortable spending more and my client got talked into more than she needed to get started in the affiliates game.

So people should easily figure out where I sit.

I am not a hustler, or con, I do hard work and try to do very good work for clients. When thier actions fall into a "Hustle" I will always be apt to pull the plug and take whats mine in the deal.

Do not do business with me if you are the type of person always on the hustle, lookin for an angle, or a person looking to treat help with a "Pimp" pre disposition.

I WILL TAKE YOUR FUCKING MONEY when ya fuck with me. I been around a while.

I been fucked with two times now by the Tiara camp.
I wish Lia the best, I really do, but appearently we know who's information she is listening to at this point and who's offerings were far more expensive in the long run.

Its out of my hands.

what in the hell does this have to do with the design she paid YOU for?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2006, 06:04 PM

PS: How Jim THe Fiend fits in the picture is simple. They used em to get at me on matters that were none of his concern, none of his business in a complex situation.

This project was to be kept on the downlow.

Sorry Aimee blabbing off to stupid third parties, pullin in Tiera on the matter and edging me out of this whole deal and getting Lia to spend far more than necessary...

That is just cold blooded.
I do not do that sort of shit to clients then piss on the help.

Go Fuck Yourself.

Web Lass · 05-24-2006, 06:12 PM

AlienQ owes jonesy money.

AlienQ owes MarkTiarra content.

AlienQ owes me design work.

Your other "points" are irrelevant.

Deej · 05-24-2006, 06:13 PM

quiet · 05-24-2006, 06:14 PM

implosion.

05-24-2006, 11:35 AM	#52
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05-24-2006, 11:38 AM	#53
kanalj Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 639	Here's a question from someone who has not been around long enough to see how these thing usually are handled: If hes such a thief, scammer and liar why isnt he banned? __________________ I made that back in the days!

05-24-2006, 11:45 AM	#56
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Yup. A couple grand changed hands a tour design and an affiliates program design, a members section. Full consultation was givin about the various methods to open a program, what scripts are available estimated costs of those scripts, which included discussions on CCBILL, NATS, MPA, cascade processing. Over 20 different versions of the aff program alone. A Members section design, designed twice. Extensive consultation on members section, security and basic set ups. A tour design, featuring flash, delivery of source files, font files, and even extra stuff. The tour under went 2 complete revisions and are not template tours. It is unique and will kick ass in the field. The design for this project was done over 1.5 months ago and I repeatedly provided links to the source files and source PSD's. I am the one that got ripped off, and this thread once again damages me and my work. Its not worth continuing on this matter. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

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05-24-2006, 11:51 AM	#58
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	JimTheFiend loves the attention. It must suck to be a no talent sig whore that involves himself in everyones business without having the slightest clue. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

05-24-2006, 11:34 AM	#51
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	Just so everyone knows, this isn't pennies either. A couple of grand changed hands. Alien = thief, scammer and liar

05-24-2006, 11:51 AM	#59
psili Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 5,526	This is a text-book "Two sides to every story" thread. Kind of sad, though. __________________ Your post count means nothing.

05-24-2006, 11:54 AM	#60
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	Jim, you're just making yourself look less and less intelligent by bumping this thread, which you had nothing to do with from the get-go. Stick to pictures of your pond. I like those.

05-24-2006, 01:00 PM	#62
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	I cant believe anyone would be stupid enough to do buisness wit Alien __________________ Sig heil

05-24-2006, 01:57 PM	#64
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	So I guess someone is lying, Alien says the work is done and the client has had access to it. The client says they still haven't received what they paid for, interesting.

05-24-2006, 02:00 PM	#65
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I got people that owe me money and work all the time and even now...Its always that way. I can't count the number of times clients never paid me over the years. It's the nature of things. Don't see me sniveling about it on the boards, nor putting non educated fucks upto shit they have no clue about... If you are a designer or developer these days be prepared to deal with very unprofessional people. People that think Boards are the catch all to business. People will usually over work you and under pay you these days and even if you do a good job and go above means to make a project work they will still push you around. We've reached the bottom of the barel and its true... Most folks these days needing work really think you owe them the world and then some when they get you a couple hundred bucks and never rule out character assassination in the public eye when its deemed in the slightest issue. I wont play this game anymore. Ya want a good deal in design, and ya always get your money's worth in being a professional with mutual respect at my shop. Ya fuck me, I will take your money. I have no qualms about it these days its that simple. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-24-2006 at 02:02 PM..

05-24-2006, 02:05 PM	#66
dv2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 286	okay i guess i'm curious...it looks like the work was done according to some links alien posted in this thread. is there a huge gap in this story? we've had work done by Alien and were pleased with the results.

05-24-2006, 02:31 PM	#70
dv2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 286	Which can be viewed here: http://www.ialien.com/roxie/index.html With flash integrated. And AFF Program design. http://www.ialien.com/vialia/ This is on page one of this growing thread.

05-24-2006, 04:14 PM	#77
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05-24-2006, 04:21 PM	#78
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05-24-2006, 04:43 PM	#84
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	At least I'm not the only one that found it impossible to work with this client .. and believe me it's hard to work with someone that thinks they know everything and really have no clue ... not you Lass ... I know you have a good idea of how things work .. you did work for me for many months and always did a good job. __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

05-24-2006, 05:31 PM	#90
hezochiah Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 807	I think this is a good example of why a bad reputation is so much harder to lose than a good reutation is to build. I have no idea what happened, but seeing how there have been so many posts similar to this pertaining to AlienQ you have to take that into account. Goes to show that it's much better to handle your business and have good dealings with people because a bad rep travels so fast.

05-24-2006, 05:44 PM	#93
dv2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 286	Yeah...i was just saying earlier that we had good results with Alien. I don't know him personally but I guess I'd like to see him do well in this biz. Alien, how about just giving them a little money back just for the karma points and the business reputation. i'll butt out know...slams door

05-24-2006, 06:01 PM	#95
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Nope. No money will be givin back. It is easy to get a bad reputation than get a good one. I am gonna stick with a bad reputation. There are to many people ready to attack and ready. They sit around on the sidelines. This is shot two fired from folks related to Tierra, and "Deals" gone wrong from that circle. I wont be fucked with and do not appreciate being gamed in this. Frankly on the matter I never encouraged NATS or MPA. I encouraged to start out with a straight CCBILL and WTS option for a single site start which they are doing. But looks like they are comfortable spending more and my client got talked into more than she needed to get started in the affiliates game. So people should easily figure out where I sit. I am not a hustler, or con, I do hard work and try to do very good work for clients. When thier actions fall into a "Hustle" I will always be apt to pull the plug and take whats mine in the deal. Do not do business with me if you are the type of person always on the hustle, lookin for an angle, or a person looking to treat help with a "Pimp" pre disposition. I WILL TAKE YOUR FUCKING MONEY when ya fuck with me. I been around a while. I been fucked with two times now by the Tiara camp. I wish Lia the best, I really do, but appearently we know who's information she is listening to at this point and who's offerings were far more expensive in the long run. Its out of my hands. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-24-2006 at 06:02 PM..

05-24-2006, 06:04 PM	#97
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	PS: How Jim THe Fiend fits in the picture is simple. They used em to get at me on matters that were none of his concern, none of his business in a complex situation. This project was to be kept on the downlow. Sorry Aimee blabbing off to stupid third parties, pullin in Tiera on the matter and edging me out of this whole deal and getting Lia to spend far more than necessary... That is just cold blooded. I do not do that sort of shit to clients then piss on the help. Go Fuck Yourself. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-24-2006 at 06:07 PM..

05-24-2006, 06:12 PM	#98
Web Lass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 609	AlienQ owes jonesy money. AlienQ owes MarkTiarra content. AlienQ owes me design work. Your other "points" are irrelevant. __________________ [email protected] \| ICQ: 315176814\| AIM: The Web Lass Need some grunt work done? I'm your lass! http://www.PetiteTeenager.com

05-24-2006, 06:13 PM	#99
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	__________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

05-24-2006, 06:14 PM	#100
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	implosion. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP