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Shoehorn! · 05-30-2007, 11:19 PM

I hope something will be done about this soon.

JD · 05-30-2007, 11:21 PM

i've got 10 bucks on absolutely NOTHING coming from this thread other than yet another "contest" or payout increase from AFF

will76 · 05-30-2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Your key words are "right now." Back in the early days of TGPs they were posting stolen content and linking directly to members areas. A real thorn in the side of the industry, yet they were allowed to have sponsor banners on their front pages. This is really what we are seeing again with torrents. You can either attempt to cut it's head off now, or let it naturally develop into something with some order that can be used by the industry. That is my take on this.

did you shake your magic 8 ball for your " take" on that ?

LOL @ comparing some tgps who used stolen content years back to sites like pirate bay. You dreaming if you think something good is going to develop out of torrent sites, you know how rediculas that comment is, give us just 1 possible good thing that could happen because of torrents that " can be used by ths industry". Just 1 example of something good.

will76 · 05-30-2007, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I can agree with that. Those torrent sites kill our business. Way bigger deal than Zango. If they weren't turning a profit I'm sure a lot would shut down.

they both are a huge problems, You own a program but you are bros with the people fucking you, big dilemma... so what you going to do about it ?

DWB · 05-31-2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Dirty point me to the torrent sites that have Fleshlight on em

Thx

Lots of them, but one site I just found today... http://pornorip.net/ There maybe more than one ad, but the one I saw was in the bottom left corner.

All stolen content.

DWB · 05-31-2007, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

point out any torrent , similar sites with Fleshlight on em if you see em

I don't look much these days for new sites because there is not much I can do about it, but as I run across them will let you know.

Good looking out if you can get fleshlight pulled from them.

DWB · 05-31-2007, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

no one here has heard of DRM?

And how exactly does that work for DVDs?

Once you rip the DVD, it's yours. There is no such thing as protecting a DVD, and even the new "crack proof" Blue Ray disks have already been cracked and copied.

DWB · 05-31-2007, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i've got 10 bucks on absolutely NOTHING coming from this thread other than yet another "contest" or payout increase from AFF

Wrong. What came from it is just a wee bit more awareness was made. Big things don't happen over night. One baby step at a time.

NoWhErE · 05-31-2007, 01:56 AM

Wonder where the hell AFF is?

Juicy was all over this to save Fleshlight's name, yet AFF hasn't even made a squeak :P

Aussie Rebel · 05-31-2007, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Wonder where the hell AFF is?

Juicy was all over this to save Fleshlight's name, yet AFF hasn't even made a squeak :P

Your kidding right? I really hope you aren't holding your breath waiting for lars to post a reply

xxxjay · 05-31-2007, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

they both are a huge problems, You own a program but you are bros with the people fucking you, big dilemma... so what you going to do about it ?

Here the big problem. Say AFF did stop taking the traffic? Then who would probably take their spot? Zango.

As long as there is shady traffic out there, someone is gonna buy it.

DWB · 05-31-2007, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Wonder where the hell AFF is?

Juicy was all over this to save Fleshlight's name, yet AFF hasn't even made a squeak :P

Yup. Big ups to the Juice.

THAT is how it should be taken care of.

Aussie Rebel · 05-31-2007, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Here the big problem. Say AFF did stop taking the traffic? Then who would probably take their spot? Zango.

As long as there is shady traffic out there, someone is gonna buy it.

Fuck me, I hope the rest of the program owners have some bigger fuckin balls than you mate, If they think like you do, we're all fucked

BVF · 05-31-2007, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

You may want to take a trip back in time and see how the TGP industry got it's start.

As for these arguments that the dating sites are keeping torrent sites in business, that is total BS. We know from history that if you remove all income from hacking, warez, music trading and torrent sites that they'll still be there. Plenty of webmasters are more than willing to run these type of sites as a zero income hobby.

Exactly....They'll rip whole websites for nothing more than a cyberpat on the head from their thieving peers.

Aussie Rebel · 05-31-2007, 04:01 AM

Does jay use zango?

RazorSharpe · 05-31-2007, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

Does jay use zango?

Not to my knowledge he doesn't. What the screencap is illustrating is Jay's links on his own site being hijacked by a zango infected PC where that zango ad spot was "cordially brought to you by Cams.Com"

While Jay has a penchant for the extreme behaviour, he doesn't come across to me as being someone who would steal! He's madder than a shit fly at a cow ranch, but he's not a thief ....

Aussie Rebel · 05-31-2007, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Not to my knowledge he doesn't. What the screencap is illustrating is Jay's links on his own site being hijacked by a zango infected PC where that zango ad spot was "cordially brought to you by Cams.Com"

While Jay has a penchant for the extreme behaviour, he doesn't come across to me as being someone who would steal! He's madder than a shit fly at a cow ranch, but he's not a thief ....

Thanks mate I wasn't sure what that meant, and sorry jay

The Duck · 05-31-2007, 06:33 AM

Its the porn biz, get used to it. Its shit I know.

xclusive · 05-31-2007, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Here the big problem. Say AFF did stop taking the traffic? Then who would probably take their spot? Zango.

As long as there is shady traffic out there, someone is gonna buy it.

Damn who neutered you? AFF might as well knock you on your ass and take out half the money in your wallet. Help you up, buy you a drink with your own money then pocket the rest. You shouldn't stand for that shit. I agree there are many more scumbags that will go after the traffic. I say take them down one by one as they step up to the challenge.

RawAlex · 05-31-2007, 08:43 AM

I am sort of hoping that AFF people might have something to say about all of this.

JD · 05-31-2007, 08:45 AM

bump bump bump

u-Bob · 05-31-2007, 09:10 AM

bump cuz content theft hurts us all.

u-Bob · 05-31-2007, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I am sort of hoping that AFF people might have something to say about all of this.

I doubt it... they're cowards just like the Sexsearch bunch...

NTSS · 05-31-2007, 09:20 AM

This industry is full of crooks and thieves. Fuck em all!!!

u-Bob · 05-31-2007, 09:24 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=738176

RazorSharpe · 05-31-2007, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

Thanks mate I wasn't sure what that meant, and sorry jay

Not to worry mate since Jay isn't the kind of person to fly off the deepend over some obvious misunderstanding on a message board.

Juicy D. Links · 05-31-2007, 09:42 AM

Fyi
I am corresponding with Fleshlight owner on ths matter I am on road now I will post what fleshlight will be doing about the impeding affs

If you see anymore fl ads on torrent sites lmw

Give me 24 hours I still pissed my car gort fucked

psili · 05-31-2007, 09:46 AM

This isn't a bad idea...

On a completely un-related topic, I was buying a ring for my wife and got financing through the store who finances through Wells Fargo Financial. A rep from WFF called me to come in, saying I needed to sign some papers for the ring financing. I get there and he starts pitching me on a wonderful home refinance deal. I decide to do it and when it came time to sign the papers, everything he said was a lie, but for some reason I still went with it - only to find out they tacked on $4000 more than the rep said.

I wrote a letter to WFF calling bullshit. Nothing happened.
I wrote a letter to the jewelery store's corporate HR department saying what happened. A couple of days later a regional WFF manager calls me and gave me my $4000 back.

-- Never underestimate the power of the pen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Okay, now my constructive contribution to this thread:

DMCA them.

Start with any single torrent site that has AFF on it and your material. Take screen shots, you will need it. DMCA the torrent site. I know this is likely worthless, but it is a good start. DMCA their hosting company as well.

Now the real stuff: DMCA AFF / Cams.

Quite simply, they are contributing to your content being stolen, providing financial support to those who guide and provide access to the material.

DMCA Google. Any time you see a torrent site with your material on it, DMCA Google, and ask them to remove that site from their listings. Based on the most recent Perfect 10's ruling, Google will likely be very responsive to your missives. Make sure you indicate specific pages you have seen your material listed on, with screen shots.

DMCA AFF's hosting company. Make sure they are aware of the situation.

Do the same with any other advertising company you find on the page. You will almost certainly find AdBrite or similar on there - potentially even Google.

Send a letter to the RIAA and to the Motion Picture Academy. Let them know that a company right in their back yard (AFF / Cams) is actively providing financial support for torrent sites. Let them know the steps you have taken. Encourage them to contact AFF and ask them why this is the case.

At some point, one or the other of these companies or groups will get advice from a lawyer that they are compelled to take action. If things go according to plan, that will include trying to stuff a legal broomstick up AFF's corporate ass.

Don't just bitch - take action.

will76 · 05-31-2007, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive

Damn who neutered you? AFF might as well knock you on your ass and take out half the money in your wallet. Help you up, buy you a drink with your own money then pocket the rest. You shouldn't stand for that shit. I agree there are many more scumbags that will go after the traffic. I say take them down one by one as they step up to the challenge.

It's the bro club fucked up mentality.

" it is ok for my bros to steal from me because if my bros don't do it someone else would and I would rather see my bros gain from my loss".

What fucking logic. This could be applied to anything. My bros fuck my wife, this is ok because i rather my bros do it then someone i don't know. I tripped and fell and my bros fucked me in the ass while i was down, I am cool with this because if my bros didn't fuck me in the ass someone else would so I rather it be a bro, we all know they are big dicks...

RazorSharpe · 05-31-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili

This isn't a bad idea...

On a completely un-related topic, I was buying a ring for my wife and got financing through the store who finances through Wells Fargo Financial. A rep from WFF called me to come in, saying I needed to sign some papers for the ring financing. I get there and he starts pitching me on a wonderful home refinance deal. I decide to do it and when it came time to sign the papers, everything he said was a lie, but for some reason I still went with it - only to find out they tacked on $4000 more than the rep said.

I wrote a letter to WFF calling bullshit. Nothing happened.
I wrote a letter to the jewelery store's corporate HR department saying what happened. A couple of days later a regional WFF manager calls me and gave me my $4000 back.

-- Never underestimate the power of the pen.

what kind of pen was it?

...

will76 · 05-31-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob

I doubt it... they're cowards just like the Sexsearch bunch...

and the sex bank roll crew is cowards and liars.

Nice Trio of companies that many people here do business with.

Michael O · 05-31-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

point out any torrent , similar sites with Fleshlight on em if you see em

fileporn.org
http://www.fleshlightcash.com/track/MTAwMTU5Nzo1OjE/

psili · 05-31-2007, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

what kind of pen was it?

...

It was actually a generic Dell keyboard. *shrug*

RazorSharpe · 05-31-2007, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili

It was actually a generic Dell keyboard. *shrug*

were you trying to pull the wool over my eyes by mentioning a pen when no pen was used? that is highly deceitful!

xxxice · 05-31-2007, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

they both are a huge problems, You own a program but you are bros with the people fucking you, big dilemma... so what you going to do about it ?

Can't wait for the days the bros realize that they are doing each other in a bad way. People seem to forget about all the damage already done and it is just continuing. Your post in the other thread about recommending people with paysites to look for new options or sell is pretty right on. It won't be till these companies are in the ^$(@$% that they realize what has been done and then come to boards like this posting what happened.

I have been taking notes on all of this since since we started hearing about it and removing sponsors right and left. Not that I am a big player or anything but I will not promote companies that are involved in such tactics.

Sad thing is that when I look at some of my trades who do I see that they are advertising the same companies that I am trying to avoid. I haven't taken the step of removing trades for who they promote but lol I am close.

Used to make anywhere from 3k to almost 5k a month in this biz. That has gone down to half if not more now. Yeah I don't skim anymore or have very entertaining sites but when I saw my best sponsor of all time go from under 1 in 1000 to over 1 in 4k I knew that something else must be going on.

Anyways cheers it up bros the damage will hit like a brick one of these days and you will be looking for a job like me peace ...

SilentBean · 05-31-2007, 10:01 AM

Bump Bump Bump Bump

The Ghost · 05-31-2007, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I make the majority of my living producing DVDs. Why is it that every torrent site that has stolen my content and is giving it away, often 10,000+ times per title, sometimes up to 50,000 per title, you are there?

Why do you allow these people to make money off of you? Why do you support these thieves? Why do you pay them?

YOU are directly stealing money from MY pocket. Would it be OK if I smash one of you in the fucking face when I see you somewhere? Would it be OK if I stole or defrauded your company in any way? Of course not, so why are you stealing from me and the countless other directors who make a living doing this?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

You are stealing from me and my family. Fuck each and every person who works for your scandalous companies. You are all pieces of shit. In the end, you will get yours I'm sure of it.

Amen my brother. You know my thoughts on this.

DTK · 05-31-2007, 10:26 AM

This thread is still alive?? wow

pocketkangaroo · 05-31-2007, 10:29 AM

I'm glad Fleshlight is going to look into it, but they've been on torrent sites like empornium.us for as long as I can remember. I'm glad that reporting of these sites is being looked into, but I don't buy that the folks at Fleshlight don't know they are getting a ton of traffic from some of the biggest torrent sites on the web.

OzMan · 05-31-2007, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I'm glad Fleshlight is going to look into it, but they've been on torrent sites like empornium.us for as long as I can remember. I'm glad that reporting of these sites is being looked into, but I don't buy that the folks at Fleshlight don't know they are getting a ton of traffic from some of the biggest torrent sites on the web.

Exactly. Thats why I got a great laugh when Juicy was giving me crap for not posting urls and asking Alex to explain to me the complicated process of how to post a url and Juicy saying how easy it was like I'm a fucking idiot.

I understand that every Sponsor/Rep has to defend their company with the standard "I didn't know but will get it fixed" even if that isn't always true so no problemo.

I didn't initially post the url for four main reasons:

1) All sponsors know where their big affiliates traffic sources are.

2) It doesn't take a net detective to find a sponsor on a torrent site. Anyone could find one in a couple minutes or so. I found it in 30 seconds as it was the first torrent site I tried.

3) Some of the 95% of GFY who are not Webmasters will now have a new place to download stolen content. No biggie I guess as people post torrent sites here every day.

4) Most likely fuck all will be done about it based on previous postings regarding Sponsors supporting illegitimate traffic sources.

Let's see where Fleshlight will fall in the taking action department before you give him too many pats on the back. Nothing against Fleshlight or Juicy, just based on past experience. I hope to be proven wrong in this case.

Usual course of action is generally one of the following:

1) Sponsor does fuck all.

2) Sponsor says they will look into it but does fuck all.

3) Sponsor says they absolutely do not allow it and please report it and they will cancel rogue affiliate but does fuck all.

4) Sponsor says they canceled rogue affiliate but does fuck all.

5) Sponsor cancels one rogue affiliate temporarily but gets him up again with a new ID usually on the same site shortly after.

6) Sponsor permanently cancels affiliates but only those who have complaints and/or don't send much.

7) Sponsor does not allow affiliates to send traffic from Torrent sites and pro actively monitors their large affiliate traffic source instead of waiting for complaints.

Right now I suppose Fleshlight is hovering around number two but hopefully will be at six or seven shortly.

Of course what a sponsor says they will do and what they do can be very different and pretty much impossible to verify except when it's blatantly obvious like the supposedly canceled affiliate url is still valid days, weeks or months later as has happened several times.

RawAlex · 05-31-2007, 11:43 AM

Ozman, the point is this: If a sponsor does fuck all and stays there, they should be put in the same bin as AFF and responsible webmasters should stay as far the fuck away from them as possible.

Time has come for the tail to wag the dog... enough bullshit!

Aussie Rebel · 05-31-2007, 03:29 PM

I remember a few months ago there was a post about AFF and the pirate bay, and Lars came in and closed the account and bragged how they aren't taking that traffic, then a couple of days later AFF banners were back up and I posted about it and Lars didn't give a fuck

Aussie Rebel · 05-31-2007, 09:21 PM

Bump for AFF, seems they bump there own contest threads

Juicy D. Links · 05-31-2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

Exactly. Thats why I got a great laugh when Juicy was giving me crap for not posting urls and asking Alex to explain to me the complicated process of how to post a url and Juicy saying how easy it was like I'm a fucking idiot.

I understand that every Sponsor/Rep has to defend their company with the standard "I didn't know but will get it fixed" even if that isn't always true so no problemo.

I didn't initially post the url for four main reasons:

1) All sponsors know where their big affiliates traffic sources are.

2) It doesn't take a net detective to find a sponsor on a torrent site. Anyone could find one in a couple minutes or so. I found it in 30 seconds as it was the first torrent site I tried.

3) Some of the 95% of GFY who are not Webmasters will now have a new place to download stolen content. No biggie I guess as people post torrent sites here every day.

4) Most likely fuck all will be done about it based on previous postings regarding Sponsors supporting illegitimate traffic sources.

Let's see where Fleshlight will fall in the taking action department before you give him too many pats on the back. Nothing against Fleshlight or Juicy, just based on past experience. I hope to be proven wrong in this case.

Usual course of action is generally one of the following:

1) Sponsor does fuck all.

2) Sponsor says they will look into it but does fuck all.

3) Sponsor says they absolutely do not allow it and please report it and they will cancel rogue affiliate but does fuck all.

4) Sponsor says they canceled rogue affiliate but does fuck all.

5) Sponsor cancels one rogue affiliate temporarily but gets him up again with a new ID usually on the same site shortly after.

6) Sponsor permanently cancels affiliates but only those who have complaints and/or don't send much.

7) Sponsor does not allow affiliates to send traffic from Torrent sites and pro actively monitors their large affiliate traffic source instead of waiting for complaints.

Right now I suppose Fleshlight is hovering around number two but hopefully will be at six or seven shortly.

Of course what a sponsor says they will do and what they do can be very different and pretty much impossible to verify except when it's blatantly obvious like the supposedly canceled affiliate url is still valid days, weeks or months later as has happened several times.

I agree Oz , but keep in mind I am not in FL office and dont have full access to all data or stats except fr my own affs. So there is so much i can do but pass info along to the powers that be.

Juicy D. Links · 05-31-2007, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

fileporn.org
http://www.fleshlightcash.com/track/MTAwMTU5Nzo1OjE/

yeah thx got him on the list now

Juicy D. Links · 05-31-2007, 09:31 PM

Ill post outcome as soon as i get the 411 on this.

Juicy D. Links · 05-31-2007, 09:33 PM

Oz hit me on da icq man 116999839

DWB · 05-31-2007, 09:54 PM

Go Juicy!

RawAlex · 05-31-2007, 10:00 PM

Juicy is da man... no short term profits over long term viability.

RedShoe · 05-31-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

Exactly....They'll rip whole websites for nothing more than a cyberpat on the head from their thieving peers.

Believe it or not, this is WAY more true than you think. These idiots rip sites and offer them to thier friends just to gain a higher ranking among their idiot friends.

05-30-2007, 11:19 PM	#101
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05-31-2007, 01:56 AM	#109
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,214	Wonder where the hell AFF is? Juicy was all over this to save Fleshlight's name, yet AFF hasn't even made a squeak :P __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

05-31-2007, 06:33 AM	#118
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05-31-2007, 09:20 AM	#124
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05-31-2007, 10:01 AM	#136
SilentBean Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,146	Bump Bump Bump Bump __________________ www.BuyClickedTraffic.com: Buy clicked traffic. www.SellClickedTraffic.com: Sell clicked traffic.

05-30-2007, 11:21 PM	#102
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	i've got 10 bucks on absolutely NOTHING coming from this thread other than yet another "contest" or payout increase from AFF

05-31-2007, 04:01 AM	#115
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Does jay use zango?

05-31-2007, 08:43 AM	#120
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	I am sort of hoping that AFF people might have something to say about all of this.

05-31-2007, 08:45 AM	#121
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	bump bump bump

05-31-2007, 09:10 AM	#122
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	bump cuz content theft hurts us all.

05-31-2007, 09:24 AM	#125
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=738176

05-31-2007, 09:42 AM	#127
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Fyi I am corresponding with Fleshlight owner on ths matter I am on road now I will post what fleshlight will be doing about the impeding affs If you see anymore fl ads on torrent sites lmw Give me 24 hours I still pissed my car gort fucked

05-31-2007, 10:26 AM	#138
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05-31-2007, 10:29 AM	#139
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I'm glad Fleshlight is going to look into it, but they've been on torrent sites like empornium.us for as long as I can remember. I'm glad that reporting of these sites is being looked into, but I don't buy that the folks at Fleshlight don't know they are getting a ton of traffic from some of the biggest torrent sites on the web.

05-31-2007, 11:43 AM	#141
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Ozman, the point is this: If a sponsor does fuck all and stays there, they should be put in the same bin as AFF and responsible webmasters should stay as far the fuck away from them as possible. Time has come for the tail to wag the dog... enough bullshit!

05-31-2007, 03:29 PM	#142
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	I remember a few months ago there was a post about AFF and the pirate bay, and Lars came in and closed the account and bragged how they aren't taking that traffic, then a couple of days later AFF banners were back up and I posted about it and Lars didn't give a fuck

05-31-2007, 09:21 PM	#143
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Bump for AFF, seems they bump there own contest threads

05-31-2007, 09:31 PM	#146
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Ill post outcome as soon as i get the 411 on this.

05-31-2007, 09:33 PM	#147
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Oz hit me on da icq man 116999839

05-31-2007, 09:54 PM	#148
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Go Juicy!

05-31-2007, 10:00 PM	#149
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Juicy is da man... no short term profits over long term viability.