We Got Screwed: Scammer Alert "Mark Hartley - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

TzarJorge · 07-21-2007, 12:45 PM

i wonder how long will they take to apology and AT VERY LEAST send some traffic to compensate TMC_PRODUCER for all this bullshit.

tmc_producer · 07-21-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

You're probably going to be getting a pretty lame and half assed apology pretty soon. You might even get messaged on ICQ by someone telling you that you are a BRO now.

I'd hire an attorney if I were you.

I bet 25usd that no one will contact me on ICQ to apologize or something.
I will wait monday to hear what my attorney thinks is better to do.

Kram · 07-21-2007, 12:47 PM

I would sue the fuck out of GTS ...

rowan · 07-21-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TzarJorge

i wonder how long will they take to apology and AT VERY LEAST send some traffic to compensate TMC_PRODUCER for all this bullshit.

I'm already going blue in the face...

Ron2k1 · 07-21-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TzarJorge

i wonder how long will they take to apology and AT VERY LEAST send some traffic to compensate TMC_PRODUCER for all this bullshit.

That's the worst part of this whole story not even one fucking apolgize from GTS at all

WiredGuy · 07-21-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Be carefull making posts pointing out that Mark is wrong. He doesnt like it.

Its not really Mark's fault, the webmaster switched the codes. When he looked at it, he followed the link to see who was benefitting from the traffic just like everone else did. The webmaster who did the link switching tried diverting attention to the TeenMagazine site and he probably would have gotten away with it if Alexa didn't cache the site.
WG

commonsense · 07-21-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc_producer

I bet 25usd that no one will contact me on ICQ to apologize or something.
I will wait monday to hear what my attorney thinks is better to do.

I'll take that bet.

tmc_producer · 07-21-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Here's a post DrinkingHardest made on another forum. He flat out calls them criminals then asks for their program to be shutdown.

Disgusting. If the BROs had been left to their own devices, this poor guy woulda been fucked hardcore in the ass without lube. And as a gay homosexual that can speak from personal experience, let me tell ya, that hurts!

I just don't think you can simply "apologize" for a post like this.

Marc I would LOVE you to post on the other board explaining what is happening FOR REAL, admitting that you were wrong about us and maybe deleting that thread or something like that.
IT's not nice to open a thread where you state that we stole you 16kusd while it's CLEARLY NOT TRUE.
That would be VERY nice from you. THANKS

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc_producer

Marc I would LOVE you to post on the other board explaining what is happening FOR REAL, admitting that you were wrong about us and maybe deleting that thread or something like that. That would be VERY nice from you. THANKS

This will never happen. I'd like to be proven wrong on this one, but WON'T EVER HAPPEN.

Dirty F · 07-21-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Its not really Mark's fault, the webmaster switched the codes. When he looked at it, he followed the link to see who was benefitting from the traffic just like everone else did. The webmaster who did the link switching tried diverting attention to the TeenMagazine site and he probably would have gotten away with it if Alexa didn't cache the site.
WG

Sorry but how Mark reacted was so fucking wrong in more than 1 way. Even me with my online temper wouldnt have done it like that.

commonsense · 07-21-2007, 12:55 PM

The parties affected by Walletgate must be lovin' this thread........

Sly · 07-21-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Its not really Mark's fault, the webmaster switched the codes. When he looked at it, he followed the link to see who was benefitting from the traffic just like everone else did. The webmaster who did the link switching tried diverting attention to the TeenMagazine site and he probably would have gotten away with it if Alexa didn't cache the site.
WG

So because he didn't fully investigate he gets a pass on possibly falsely accusing someone?

Interesting.

I suppose MikeHawk gets a pass and we'll never hear about that again either. Amazing. I need someone to call out... just to see what its like to have a temper. But then again I don't throw parties. Who would stick up for me?

WiredGuy · 07-21-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Sorry but how Mark reacted was so fucking wrong in more than 1 way. Even me with my online temper wouldnt have done it like that.

Given the facts he had at the time... Let's face it, without alexa cached results this webmaster would have gotten away with it.
WG

tmc_producer · 07-21-2007, 01:02 PM

I really wonder what would have happend if I was going to open a thread like they did on just blow me dot com
We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By Teen Mega Cash

BUT

We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By MARK OF GTS

without any proof and then understanding that what I posted was not even true.

Peaches · 07-21-2007, 01:03 PM

I swear this is "Jumping to the wrong conclusion and trashing someone based on assumptions" week.

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Given the facts he had at the time... Let's face it, without alexa cached results this webmaster would have gotten away with it.
WG

Given the facts he had at the time, WHICH WERE NONE, he shouldn't have been posting fucking threads dragging this poor guy through the mud and trying to have his entire program shut down.

This is like, TGP Fraud 101 shit.

He should have contacted the authorities, who would have done a REAL investigation.

PERIOD!

I hope this guy sues the fuck out them. Maybe some of the BROs around here could stand to learn a lesson.

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc_producer

I really wonder what would have happend if I was going to open a thread like they did on just blow me dot com
We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By Teen Mega Cash

BUT

We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By MARK OF GTS

without any proof and then understanding that what I posted was not even true.

You did get fucked, and it was for a whole lot more than $16k.

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc_producer

I really wonder what would have happend if I was going to open a thread like they did on just blow me dot com
We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By Teen Mega Cash

BUT

We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By MARK OF GTS

without any proof and then understanding that what I posted was not even true.

Probably you'd get banned in under 2 minutes.

Then

They'd probably sue the living fuck out of you, that's probably what would happen.

Dirty F · 07-21-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Given the facts he had at the time... Let's face it, without alexa cached results this webmaster would have gotten away with it.
WG

Please stop defending him this time Charles. Mark was wrong in EVERY way possible. He simply was totally wrong. Theres nothing i can think off that makes me want to say "oh well, i understand he did this or that". Nothing.

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Please stop defending him this time Charles. Mark was wrong in EVERY way possible. He simply was totally wrong. Theres nothing i can think off that makes me want to say "oh well, i understand he did this or that". Nothing.

Post quoted for emphasis.

Dirty F · 07-21-2007, 01:09 PM

Why arent they still not in this thread with biggest apology ive seen here since this board opened?

commonsense · 07-21-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc_producer

I really wonder what would have happend if I was going to open a thread like they did on just blow me dot com
We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By Teen Mega Cash

BUT

We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By MARK OF GTS

without any proof and then understanding that what I posted was not even true.

I'd stick with taking high road on this, either legal or otherwise. IMHO putting up childish stuff like that will only make you look like an ass, and they (GTS) would probably take legal action, just to be "right". Just ride the waves and wait for an apology, or some other beneficial arrangement.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-21-2007, 01:10 PM

Just open yer program TMC.

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

I'd stick with taking high road on this, either legal or otherwise. IMHO putting up childish stuff like that will only make you look like an ass, and they WOULD probably take legal action, just to be "right". Just ride the waves and wait for an apology, or some other beneficial arrangement.

I don't think that post made him look like an ass at all. He's got a valid point.

If HE had done this on the boards, his ass would have been banned in under 2 minutes, and the thread would have been moved to the secret password protected forum to protect the BRO from any further "defamation".

He's been very professional through out this entire thing, including in those ICQ conversations with Sarah.

GigoloMason · 07-21-2007, 01:12 PM

I would have been livid if someone hit me up outta the blue on ICQ and was that disrespectful about it. Especially if it clearly wasn't showing up on my stats on my end.

Dirty F · 07-21-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

He's been very professional through out this entire thing, including in those ICQ conversations with Sarah.

I agree. You should see me in his shoes. I wouldve went nuts. Seriously.

tmc_producer · 07-21-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

I'd stick with taking high road on this, either legal or otherwise. IMHO putting up childish stuff like that will only make you look like an ass, and they (GTS) would probably take legal action, just to be "right". Just ride the waves and wait for an apology, or some other beneficial arrangement.

Ok I will do that. On Monday I have to go to my attorney.
And yes they can take all the legal actions that they wants to. We will more then happy to reply.

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc_producer

Ok I will do that. On Monday I have to go to my attorney.
And yes they can take all the legal actions that they wants to. We will more then happy to reply.

Smart man. Now some advice from me:

#1 Don't say ANOTHER WORD about this topic on ANY of the boards. Other people will make sure this gets attention, believe me. Just keep quiet about it, and don't be baited into posting. It'll hurt your legal options.

#2. OPEN UP YOUR PROGRAM! You're getting mad buzz right now, you should be cashing in on it. If it doesn't have a shitload of promos done yet, or whatever, it doesn't matter. Get webmasters signing up so you can email them when you do have 100% of your shit together.

GigoloMason · 07-21-2007, 01:18 PM

Come to think of it I'd be pretty pissed off if I was CCBill to, having one of my friends threatening my clients with termination all over the place.

tmc_producer · 07-21-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Smart man. Now some advice from me:

#2. OPEN UP YOUR PROGRAM! You're getting mad buzz right now, you should be cashing in on it. If it doesn't have a shitload of promos done yet, or whatever, it doesn't matter. Get webmasters signing up so you can email them when you do have 100% of your shit together.

If this would have happend in 4/5 weeks it would have been better!

We are relaunching teenmegacash even if now it looks kinda dead.
It will include jsut one site at the beginnign with 287 exlcusive girls and 3 new girls per week and daily updates

I hope it will sell nicely.
Plus teenmegacash will be restyled with gallery generator and all that stuf that we all know.
All in 4/6 weeks. It's an HUGE work to prepare a website with 287 girls and more then 500k photos...

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason

Come to think of it I'd be pretty pissed off if I was CCBill to, having one of my friends threatening my clients with termination all over the place.

Their heads seem to be HUGE and also well positioned tightly up their asses. That's gotta be painful.

Screaming · 07-21-2007, 01:29 PM

wow.. what a backfire...

Trax · 07-21-2007, 01:31 PM

this turned out sooo wrong lol

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming

wow.. what a backfire...

I haven't seen blowback this big since that time I tried taking 2 fists at once. LAWDS MERCY!

chupacabra · 07-21-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Mark really has turn into a huge douche since 2007 rolled in. The way he treated Nysus back in the day really was some foreshadowing of things to come.

no doubt. i hope all of this serves as a good warning to anyone who thinks about doing business w/ him or that cooze Sarah, talk about being not only wildly unprofessional but wannabe thugs as well..

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

I haven't seen blowback this big since that time I tried taking 2 fists at once. LAWDS MERCY!

Where you around for the GTS drama with MachineGunKelly and StuartD?

Lots of interesting GTS revelations and similar attitude in that Mark meltdown.

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/728826-found-twinkinghardest-guess-ex-employee.html

chupacabra · 07-21-2007, 01:45 PM

btw, what happened to sleazy? i assume he's too busy cleaning shit from his lips to keep up w/ this thread at the moment, but will probably be back to throw his worthless jibes at the honest players to keep his position as "official bro salad tosser" in effect..

Doctor Dre · 07-21-2007, 01:47 PM

Holy shit did this thread backfire... talk about arrogance.

xNetworx · 07-21-2007, 01:47 PM

GTS is probably riding jet ski's on a lake at one of Mark's 20 homes in the middle of Bum-Fuck. Don't expect a reply. GTS traffic has always been overpriced and everyone kissing their ass is making me sick.

OH, yeah... you should be more professional for such a big traffic outfit.

Roald · 07-21-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

this turned out sooo wrong lol

lol no shit huh

Doctor Dre · 07-21-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra

no doubt. i hope all of this serves as a good warning to anyone who thinks about doing business w/ him or that cooze Sarah, talk about being not only wildly unprofessional but wannabe thugs as well..

If you're in the TGP business you don't really have a choice, they are almost a monopoly bud...

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

GTS is probably riding jet ski's on a lake at one of Mark's 20 homes in the middle of Bum-Fuck. Don't expect a reply. GTS traffic has always been overpriced and everyone kissing their ass is making me sick.

OH, yeah... you should be more professional for such a big traffic outfit.

Funny you mentioned that, as he JUST posted in the Jet Ski thread a few minutes ago.

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

If you're in the TGP business you don't really have a choice, they are almost a monopoly bud...

Most of the sites worth the price of submission can be bought directly from the site owners. You of all people have to know that right?

chupacabra · 07-21-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

If you're in the TGP business you don't really have a choice, they are almost a monopoly bud...

lol, never been more happy to not be in the TGP biz then... i run small paysites and am glad my daily business doesn't involve putting up w/ these kinds of assholes, too lame..

pocketkangaroo · 07-21-2007, 01:53 PM

TSM should contact a lawyer first thing Monday morning.

Other then that, after reading those ICQ logs and the threats, not to mention the jumping of the gun, I don't think I'd be crazy enough to buy traffic from them.

Dirty F · 07-21-2007, 01:55 PM

So Mark is posting in other threads as if nothing happened? You have to be kidding me?

SmokeyTheBear · 07-21-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Please stop defending him this time Charles. Mark was wrong in EVERY way possible. He simply was totally wrong. Theres nothing i can think off that makes me want to say "oh well, i understand he did this or that". Nothing.

i dont think so , i think it was a perfectly normal assumption for the average webmaster to think tsm had something to do with it

he def went about it way too quick but his assumption was based on the FACTS he had at the time , FACT was the traffic was going there so he assumed they bought it..

now we know a bit more of the story the facts have changed so it was premature to suspect a no ref code link meant the program was at fault.

once again the moral of the story is do as much fact checking as you can before you fly off the handle.

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

So Mark is posting in other threads as if nothing happened? You have to be kidding me?

Just as he did with MGK and StuartD. Maybe if we're lucky he'll disappear again for a few weeks. Typical and expected.

pocketkangaroo · 07-21-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont think so , i think it was a perfectly normal assumption for the average webmaster to think tsm had something to do with it

he def went about it way too quick but his assumption was based on the FACTS he had at the time , FACT was the traffic was going there so he assumed they bought it..

now we know a bit more of the story the facts have changed so it was premature to suspect a no ref code link meant the program was at fault.

once again the moral of the story is do as much fact checking as you can before you fly off the handle.

The facts at the time don't mean shit in court though. Just ask Richard Jewel how he feels about the facts at the time.

TheDoc · 07-21-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

once again the moral of the story is do as much fact checking as you can before you fly off the handle.

Moral of the story, don't bring shit to the boards and don't start off being an asshole. It could backfire.

Top spot.. Cool beans!

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07-21-2007, 01:12 PM	#175
GigoloMason Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 742	I would have been livid if someone hit me up outta the blue on ICQ and was that disrespectful about it. Especially if it clearly wasn't showing up on my stats on my end. __________________

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GigoloMason Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 742	Come to think of it I'd be pretty pissed off if I was CCBill to, having one of my friends threatening my clients with termination all over the place. __________________

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Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	wow.. what a backfire... __________________

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chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	btw, what happened to sleazy? i assume he's too busy cleaning shit from his lips to keep up w/ this thread at the moment, but will probably be back to throw his worthless jibes at the honest players to keep his position as "official bro salad tosser" in effect.. __________________ ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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TzarJorge Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Far far away. Posts: 659	i wonder how long will they take to apology and AT VERY LEAST send some traffic to compensate TMC_PRODUCER for all this bullshit.

07-21-2007, 12:47 PM	#153
Kram Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 666	I would sue the fuck out of GTS ...

07-21-2007, 12:55 PM	#161
commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	The parties affected by Walletgate must be lovin' this thread........

07-21-2007, 01:02 PM	#164
tmc_producer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 43	I really wonder what would have happend if I was going to open a thread like they did on just blow me dot com We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By Teen Mega Cash BUT We Just Got Fucked For $16,000 By MARK OF GTS without any proof and then understanding that what I posted was not even true.

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Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	I swear this is "Jumping to the wrong conclusion and trashing someone based on assumptions" week.

07-21-2007, 01:09 PM	#171
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Why arent they still not in this thread with biggest apology ive seen here since this board opened?

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Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	this turned out sooo wrong lol

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	GTS is probably riding jet ski's on a lake at one of Mark's 20 homes in the middle of Bum-Fuck. Don't expect a reply. GTS traffic has always been overpriced and everyone kissing their ass is making me sick. OH, yeah... you should be more professional for such a big traffic outfit. Last edited by xNetworx; 07-21-2007 at 01:48 PM..

07-21-2007, 01:53 PM	#195
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	TSM should contact a lawyer first thing Monday morning. Other then that, after reading those ICQ logs and the threats, not to mention the jumping of the gun, I don't think I'd be crazy enough to buy traffic from them.

07-21-2007, 01:55 PM	#196
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	So Mark is posting in other threads as if nothing happened? You have to be kidding me?