A big FUCK YOU to Brad from Lion Dollars - GoFuckYourself.com

Zorgman · 08-30-2007, 10:23 AM

WTF is it with this webmaster. I meet this guy Brad in LA at the Webmaster Access back in 2004 (at the time he was working for Adult Lounge, now I think he's working for Lion Dollars). We had some drinks and talked biz. Kept in tounch for over 3 years now untill 5 minutes ago.

I don't usually post ICQ logs but this is insane.

Brad : dude

Brad : youhave epass?
Brad : want to make 80 bones

Brad : for 10 minutes work
ME : i have epass. whats the work?
Brad : just have to deposit 20 usd into a casino...with your cc
Brad : when you do tha i give yu 100
Brad : on epass
ME : i never use my cc over the net.
Brad : lol..okie hen
Brad : no worries if you dont want it
ME : cant dude. $80 is not worth the rish of getting $5000 or $10000 bucks stolen from my account. why not use epass virtual ?
Brad : you can try that
Brad : if it works let me kno i send youthe money
Brad : you are the only webmaster in the world afriad to use their cc online
Brad : lol
Brad : but to each their own
ME : you dont have a cc?
Brad : yeah i do have several
Brad : and i ran them all

Brad : http://casino777royal.com/
Brad : this is not for me...this is helping someone else reach a lage bonus payout
Brad : so if you depsoit 20...i give you 100
Brad : dont do it if it causes some kind of moral dilemna for you
Brad : or you are worried
ME : sorry dude. i need all my epassporte money for bills and server costs.
Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont giveyu 80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye
ME : cya
Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you
ME : you joking right?

Please tell me someone just fucked away their life savings on the online casino. Because that would really do this guy justice.

Sorry, this thread has nothing to do with Adult Lounge or Lion Dollars, both great programs.

A big FUCK YOU to Brad!

mb · 08-30-2007, 10:28 AM

really shady...

ronaldo · 08-30-2007, 10:29 AM

Well, it is kind of funny that you won't use your credit card online, but why he'd block you over that conversation is a little puzzling.

Phoenix · 08-30-2007, 10:30 AM

no more like useless zorgman is w hiny bitch

who constantly every fuckin day for about 4 years asks me to give him tips on hhis websites

what do i th in of this idea or that idea...every fucking day for years

you know how much business i get from him

ZERO

go die zorgman and stop your lies

C-Bass · 08-30-2007, 10:31 AM

its a conspiracy

Phoenix · 08-30-2007, 10:31 AM

the only reason i ever spoke to you was to calm y ou down causeyou were bitching about someone else

then you latched on like a leech

KimJI · 08-30-2007, 10:31 AM

This cant be a Liondollars guy

picaso · 08-30-2007, 10:35 AM

is this icq chatlog for real ?

Phoenix · 08-30-2007, 10:38 AM

no its not for real

i did erase him from icq..and his history i wish i hadnt

all he ever did was beg for tips and what to do online

well...ive had enough of it

you want advice...fuckin send 1 click

dont take up someones time for 4 years and do nothing

you be real careful now zorgie

you already threw down the gauntlet
all gloves are off in my mind

stev0 · 08-30-2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

no more like useless zorgman is w hiny bitch

who constantly every fuckin day for about 4 years asks me to give him tips on hhis websites

Newsflash buddy... you're a program rep, it's your job

stev0 · 08-30-2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

you want advice...fuckin send 1 click

dont take up someones time for 4 years and do nothing

I retract my previous post. Program reps are there to help affiliates, if he's not sending traffic and generating $$$ for the program he's not an affiliate.

scottybuzz · 08-30-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0

Newsflash buddy... you're a program rep, it's your job

scottybuzz · 08-30-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

I retract my last two laughs

KimJI · 08-30-2007, 10:43 AM

did you, or did you not ask him to sign up for that pokersite?
If you did you should be fired as a program rep.

You are trying to fraud a pokersite

Phoenix · 08-30-2007, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stev0

Newsflash buddy... you're a program rep, it's your job

newsflash i helped him for four years..and then he went psycho today

he doesnt send a single click

im happy to help someone from bottom up

and offer advice where i can

Zorgman · 08-30-2007, 10:46 AM

I promote both programs and yes, Phoenix is Brad.

I asked for help, thats what webmasters do for each other. Im not giving you fucken money so you can go play the casino.

Phoenix · 08-30-2007, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJI

did you, or did you not ask him to sign up for that pokersite?
If you did you should be fired as a program rep.

You are trying to fraud a pokersite

hes full of lies

and hot air

wdsguy · 08-30-2007, 10:48 AM

this shit is too funny.

Phoenix · 08-30-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman

I promote both programs and yes, Phoenix is Brad.

I asked for help, thats what webmasters do for each other. Im not giving you fucken money so you can go play the casino.

lol..i got my own money dude

you are out in left field

enjoy your changing business plans every five days

as i said to you on icq...mental help is free in australia

go seek it out

KimJI · 08-30-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

hes full of lies

and hot air

So you did NOT ask him to sign up for that poker site in return for money?

Ravage · 08-30-2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJI

You are trying to fraud a pokersite

I don't think Brad is trying to fraud a poker site. What this looks like to me, is a CPA campaign media buy with the site, with a min $20 deposit. Its nothing more than incentivized traffic being sent to the site to complete the buy.

All I gotta say is, $20 min deposits now? Wow, they must really be hurting.

Zorgman · 08-30-2007, 10:51 AM

Screenshot of my last post and the original icq.

Also, now he wants me to settle.. settle what Brad?

Get some gaming help. If your begging webmasters for money so you can go play the casino, you really do need help.

KimJI · 08-30-2007, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum ChrisM

I don't think Brad is trying to fraud a poker site. What this looks like to me, is a CPA campaign media buy with the site, with a min $20 deposit. Its nothing more than incentivized traffic being sent to the site to complete the buy.

All I gotta say is, $20 min deposits now? Wow, they must really be hurting.

Its fraud, but you would of course defend those practices, since its the same thing Madawgs do to get signups from hos warez sites to your program.

OMG Jim · 08-30-2007, 11:07 AM

Remember that everything you write, post or send on the internet will be there for anyone to do anything they want to with.

If you DO NOT represent a company then you can basically act any way your choose. But if you DO represent a company within a certain industry then common courtesy should be the rule.

Sounds like someone did not know how to respect someone's wishes to be involved in something that they chose not to. If that person did not want to be involved then it is their choice.

If someone wants to block someone then it is also their choice.

I have chatted with Zorgman on a number of occasions for about a year now and have offered comments and critiques on projects that he is working on. Whenever I was busy or unable to help I would just say so and that was the end of it. This is part of doing business in hopes that one day we may indeed do some business.

For someone that is not able to respect someones private financial dealings all I have to say is.... NOT COOL! If in fact that person does represent an established company within our industry then it definitely sheds a NEGATIVE light on the employer.
_

My

worth

dav3 · 08-30-2007, 11:08 AM

I'm curious as to what's in the rest of the scroll?

ronaldo · 08-30-2007, 11:11 AM

I'd like to add a big fuck you to Brad as well for not offering me a free $80.

fluffygrrl · 08-30-2007, 11:12 AM

Top notch drama.

Platinum Dave · 08-30-2007, 11:17 AM

Brad is doing a favour for someone else.

Deposit $20 get $100 in return.

I don't see why a conversation like that needs to be posted on GFY for everyone to see.

Is everyone still in highschool on this chat board? grow up will ya.

JFK · 08-30-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo

I'd like to add a big fuck you to Brad as well for not offering me a free $80.

well make that a double

emichele20 · 08-30-2007, 11:22 AM

This shit is funny. Zorgman I'm glad that you didn't think twice about offering...

KimJI · 08-30-2007, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

Brad is doing a favour for someone else.

Deposit $20 get $100 in return.

I don't see why a conversation like that needs to be posted on GFY for everyone to see.

Is everyone still in highschool on this chat board? grow up will ya.

So I can sign up for your program, and pay pornsurfers $20 to sign up for your $$4.87/ Popup membership, you wont have a problem with that?

Platinum Dave · 08-30-2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJI

So I can sign up for your program, and pay pornsurfers $20 to sign up for your $$4.87/ Popup membership, you wont have a problem with that?

No wouldn't accept that.

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

Tom_PM · 08-30-2007, 11:44 AM

He said sorry dude I need my epass money for other things.

Zorgman · 08-30-2007, 11:44 AM

Dave (remember me), I said NO and he ended our friendship.

Phoenix · 08-30-2007, 11:45 AM

go take some meds zorg

you are a tool

dont ask me every day for help on a project you will give up on in five minutes

baddog · 08-30-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman

Screenshot of my last post and the original icq.

Also, now he wants me to settle.. settle what Brad?

Get some gaming help. If your begging webmasters for money so you can go play the casino, you really do need help.

Wow.

I am having a problem seeing how Brad's actions/comments are somehow defendable. He isn't doing anyone any favors and I hate being put in a position where I side with KimJI.

dodger21 · 08-30-2007, 11:48 AM

What a retard

Platinum Dave · 08-30-2007, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman

Dave (remember me), I said NO and he ended our friendship.

I remember your name yes.

You said no and Brad said...

Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont give you $80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye

That's not ending a friendship.

Zorgman · 08-30-2007, 11:59 AM

Dave, you must have missed this line hey.

Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you

I think that's a pretty big "FUCK YOU CUNT" for not giving me $20.

baddog · 08-30-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

I remember your name yes.

You said no and Brad said...

Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont give you $80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye

That's not ending a friendship.

Convenient that you skipped the next couple of lines:

Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont giveyu 80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye
ME : cya
Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you

Peaches · 08-30-2007, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

If you were offering $200 per referral would you be OK with affiliates bringing in referrals whom they knew had no intention of ever sending any clicks/sales?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

Zorg did tell him he wasn't interested and wasn't at all rude about it IMO. It was Brad who got snippy.

"Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you"

TDF · 08-30-2007, 12:03 PM

lol..how anyone can defend brad in this position is beyond me...i mean broclub

Jman · 08-30-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

No wouldn't accept that.

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

"Life it to short to stress over small things"

Ah!!! this quote belongs in many threads

spunkmister · 08-30-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave

No wouldn't accept that.

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

The casino pays out money to refer other gamblers to sign up to their service, in this case the person Brad is asking to signup isnt interested in actually gambling, he's only interested in getting his "friend" the bonus payout.

How is this different from what KimJI suggested? You pay webmasters to refer surfers to your sites....so if I start a new project that gives an incentive for surfers to sign up to your trials then you would be ok with it right? Since you are defending what Brad did.

08-30-2007, 12:05 PM

Not sure what the big deal is here...

Had he scammed you it would have been a different story. Brad, hit me up, i'll deposit 20 to make 100. And I know you'll pay me.

Idiots.

Profits of Doom · 08-30-2007, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esnem

Not sure what the big deal is here...

Had he scammed you it would have been a different story. Brad, hit me up, i'll deposit 20 to make 100. And I know you'll pay me.

Idiots.

And you wonder why people justify stealing content? Idiot...

spunkmister · 08-30-2007, 12:07 PM

Also wouldn't this be the same as me asking 10 of my friends to sign up for trials at a sponsor I promote and then cancel so I can get my payouts?

08-30-2007, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister

The casino pays out money to refer other gamblers to sign up to their service, in this case the person Brad is asking to signup isnt interested in actually gambling, he's only interested in getting his "friend" the bonus payout.

How is this different from what KimJI suggested? You pay webmasters to refer surfers to your sites....so if I start a new project that gives an incentive for surfers to sign up to your trials then you would be ok with it right? Since you are defending what Brad did.

casinos are different than adult sites. if i deposit that 20, i am definitely playing it. if i ever want to gamble online again, there's a good chance i'll use a casino that i've used before, even more likely to use a casino that i used last.

that is the value and that's why it's worth it for a casino to pay on those leads. adult sites are an entirely different ballgame.

08-30-2007, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

And you wonder why people justify stealing content? Idiot...

who are you? you make no sense.

08-30-2007, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmister

Also wouldn't this be the same as me asking 10 of my friends to sign up for trials at a sponsor I promote and then cancel so I can get my payouts?

CASINOS AND ADULT SITES ARE NOT THE SAME

08-30-2007, 10:23 AM	#1
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	A big FUCK YOU to Brad from Lion Dollars WTF is it with this webmaster. I meet this guy Brad in LA at the Webmaster Access back in 2004 (at the time he was working for Adult Lounge, now I think he's working for Lion Dollars). We had some drinks and talked biz. Kept in tounch for over 3 years now untill 5 minutes ago. I don't usually post ICQ logs but this is insane. Brad : dude Brad : youhave epass? Brad : want to make 80 bones Brad : for 10 minutes work ME : i have epass. whats the work? Brad : just have to deposit 20 usd into a casino...with your cc Brad : when you do tha i give yu 100 Brad : on epass ME : i never use my cc over the net. Brad : lol..okie hen Brad : no worries if you dont want it ME : cant dude. $80 is not worth the rish of getting $5000 or $10000 bucks stolen from my account. why not use epass virtual ? Brad : you can try that Brad : if it works let me kno i send youthe money Brad : you are the only webmaster in the world afriad to use their cc online Brad : lol Brad : but to each their own ME : you dont have a cc? Brad : yeah i do have several Brad : and i ran them all Brad : http://casino777royal.com/ Brad : this is not for me...this is helping someone else reach a lage bonus payout Brad : so if you depsoit 20...i give you 100 Brad : dont do it if it causes some kind of moral dilemna for you Brad : or you are worried ME : sorry dude. i need all my epassporte money for bills and server costs. Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont giveyu 80 bucks then Brad : lol Brad : goodbye ME : cya Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you ME : you joking right? Please tell me someone just fucked away their life savings on the online casino. Because that would really do this guy justice. Sorry, this thread has nothing to do with Adult Lounge or Lion Dollars, both great programs. A big FUCK YOU to Brad! __________________ ---

08-30-2007, 10:30 AM	#4
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	no more like useless zorgman is w hiny bitch who constantly every fuckin day for about 4 years asks me to give him tips on hhis websites what do i th in of this idea or that idea...every fucking day for years you know how much business i get from him ZERO go die zorgman and stop your lies __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

08-30-2007, 10:31 AM	#5
C-Bass Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: th3 1nt3Rwebz Posts: 3,153	its a conspiracy __________________ "Unhappy with the riches 'cause you're piss poor morally." Trade traffic? - Highdef Blog

08-30-2007, 10:31 AM	#6
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	the only reason i ever spoke to you was to calm y ou down causeyou were bitching about someone else then you latched on like a leech __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

08-30-2007, 10:31 AM	#7
KimJI Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: So fucking gone Posts: 1,839	This cant be a Liondollars guy __________________ Trafficadept \| Best traffic I have ever tested \| web "@t" cuul.org

08-30-2007, 10:28 AM	#2
mb Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,550	really shady...

08-30-2007, 10:29 AM	#3
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	Well, it is kind of funny that you won't use your credit card online, but why he'd block you over that conversation is a little puzzling.

08-30-2007, 10:35 AM	#8
picaso Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,247	is this icq chatlog for real ?

08-30-2007, 10:38 AM	#9
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	no its not for real i did erase him from icq..and his history i wish i hadnt all he ever did was beg for tips and what to do online well...ive had enough of it you want advice...fuckin send 1 click dont take up someones time for 4 years and do nothing you be real careful now zorgie you already threw down the gauntlet all gloves are off in my mind __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

08-30-2007, 10:43 AM	#14
KimJI Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: So fucking gone Posts: 1,839	did you, or did you not ask him to sign up for that pokersite? If you did you should be fired as a program rep. You are trying to fraud a pokersite __________________ Trafficadept \| Best traffic I have ever tested \| web "@t" cuul.org

08-30-2007, 10:46 AM	#16
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	I promote both programs and yes, Phoenix is Brad. I asked for help, thats what webmasters do for each other. Im not giving you fucken money so you can go play the casino. __________________ ---

08-30-2007, 10:48 AM	#18
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	this shit is too funny.

08-30-2007, 10:51 AM	#22
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	Screenshot of my last post and the original icq. Also, now he wants me to settle.. settle what Brad? Get some gaming help. If your begging webmasters for money so you can go play the casino, you really do need help. __________________ ---

08-30-2007, 11:07 AM	#24
OMG Jim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 3,153	Remember that everything you write, post or send on the internet will be there for anyone to do anything they want to with. If you DO NOT represent a company then you can basically act any way your choose. But if you DO represent a company within a certain industry then common courtesy should be the rule. Sounds like someone did not know how to respect someone's wishes to be involved in something that they chose not to. If that person did not want to be involved then it is their choice. If someone wants to block someone then it is also their choice. I have chatted with Zorgman on a number of occasions for about a year now and have offered comments and critiques on projects that he is working on. Whenever I was busy or unable to help I would just say so and that was the end of it. This is part of doing business in hopes that one day we may indeed do some business. For someone that is not able to respect someones private financial dealings all I have to say is.... NOT COOL! If in fact that person does represent an established company within our industry then it definitely sheds a NEGATIVE light on the employer. _ My worth __________________ ICQ: 254 914 537 - Skype: AlmightyJim

08-30-2007, 11:08 AM	#25
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08-30-2007, 11:11 AM	#26
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	I'd like to add a big fuck you to Brad as well for not offering me a free $80.

08-30-2007, 11:12 AM	#27
fluffygrrl So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,187	Top notch drama.

08-30-2007, 11:17 AM	#28
Platinum Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,441	Brad is doing a favour for someone else. Deposit $20 get $100 in return. I don't see why a conversation like that needs to be posted on GFY for everyone to see. Is everyone still in highschool on this chat board? grow up will ya. __________________ Check out Adult Rental - Only Pay Per Signup VOD!

08-30-2007, 11:22 AM	#30
emichele20 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: PA Posts: 574	This shit is funny. Zorgman I'm glad that you didn't think twice about offering... __________________ Need Password Protection for Your Site?? Need Website Hosting??

08-30-2007, 11:44 AM	#33
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	He said sorry dude I need my epass money for other things. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

08-30-2007, 11:45 AM	#35
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	go take some meds zorg you are a tool dont ask me every day for help on a project you will give up on in five minutes __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io Last edited by Phoenix; 08-30-2007 at 11:46 AM..

08-30-2007, 11:48 AM	#37
dodger21 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,680	What a retard __________________ icq: 237055440

08-30-2007, 11:59 AM	#39
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	Dave, you must have missed this line hey. Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you I think that's a pretty big "FUCK YOU CUNT" for not giving me $20. __________________ ---

08-30-2007, 12:03 PM	#42
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	lol..how anyone can defend brad in this position is beyond me...i mean broclub __________________ Sig heil

08-30-2007, 12:05 PM	#45
esnem Guest Posts: n/a	Not sure what the big deal is here... Had he scammed you it would have been a different story. Brad, hit me up, i'll deposit 20 to make 100. And I know you'll pay me. Idiots.

08-30-2007, 12:07 PM	#47
spunkmister Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,362	Also wouldn't this be the same as me asking 10 of my friends to sign up for trials at a sponsor I promote and then cancel so I can get my payouts?