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Old 02-16-2008, 12:51 AM   #1
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Oh the irony

I am talking with a friend the other day about random violence. I guess I was naive, never being a victim of anything.

Then it happens to me. I am walking back to my car after a night of being out with two friends. There is a group of 5 guys and a girl behind us, couple black guys and 3 spanish guys. They kept trying to provoke my one friend that was super drunk. I did the whole separate everybody type thing and told them "look my friend is really drunk, he didnt do anything etc etc" They lay off a little bit but still follow closely.

Then the girl in their group comes up right beside us and is like "holy shit, these guys just said they hate N*ggers" which was completely not even true, I was sending a text message on my phone and my other friends were talking about a girl they know. We turn around and crack, the fists start flying. Naturally they attack my really drunk friend first, he takes 2 solid punches in the face before I pull him away and down to the ground to get him away from the punches. As i am doing that I was attacked by two of the guys, one nailing me in the left jaw and another in the back of the head. Which I gotta say, surprisingly did not hurt at all till the next morning, and I gotta call these guys pussies for the sheer fact that they got 2 free punches on me that I did not even know were coming and it didnt do shit.

My one friend is laying on the ground, bleeding but fine, my other friend i lost sight of. I look around and 2 of the attackers see I am still standing (the others ran off like cowards) These guys start running at me screaming "we are gonna kill you whiteboy" I am still perplexed at this whole situation. So I jumped over a railing into a patio bar, which is ironic because the bouncers thought I was trying to jump the bar and roughed me up.

I am still kind of pissed about the whole situation, this came out of nowhere and on Valentines day of all nights. The thing that shocks me the most is HOW FAST, shit like this goes down. Even if you had a gun or a knife or anything, I think without the proper training, you would not even have a chance to use it.
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Damn, crazy story. It could have been much worse though. Glad you're ok.
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I think without the proper training, you would not even have a chance to use it.

Proper training would have included not walking infront of guys that already gave you shit.

Glad you are ok.
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Proper training would have included not walking infront of guys that already gave you shit.

Glad you are ok.
Thats a good point and I too am glad you are ok. No surprises this is what alcohol does to people. Makes them super aggressive. Shame you couldn't have cared their heads in.
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Proper training would have included not walking infront of guys that already gave you shit.

Glad you are ok.
Not exactly any other options, it was the only path way to where everyone was heading. I am fine, my friend who got punched a few times in the face is taking it kinda hard on himself.
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Thats why you don't live in the "ghetto". Go to a nicer neighborhood where theres no ghetto ass thugs.
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wow thats crazy glad you guys are ok....

wonder what made some guys just randomly decide to jump on a group of another guys

my sense tell me there has to be more to this story.. sorry but I have been all over the world and almost always theres two side to a story

was your drunk friend hurling racial slurs by any chance?
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wow thats crazy glad you guys are ok....

wonder what made some guys just randomly decide to jump on a group of another guys

my sense tell me there has to be more to this story.. sorry but I have been all over the world and almost always theres two side to a story

was your drunk friend hurling racial slurs by any chance?
I grew up in DC ... trust me you don't need to have hurled racial slurs to find yourself in bad situations.
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I grew up in DC ... trust me you don't need to have hurled racial slurs to find yourself in bad situations.
Just saying... I know some of the nerdiest skinny puny people you could ever imagine and they never have any problems anywhere

I used to be a bouncer so I know how fast liqour can create a situation
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Thats why you don't live in the "ghetto". Go to a nicer neighborhood where theres no ghetto ass thugs.
u don't necessarily have to live in the ghetto to see crap like that.........it happens more frequently than you think here at the universal studios noho......
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Tip: Learn Wing Tsun

within 6 months of training you can defeat yourself quite good. I have a friend who has been doing Wing Tsun for over 20 years. He once got attacked by two turkish guys because he tried to help a women who they molested. He broke one guys skull and the other one's splines with his hands.
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Watch some videos to get some motivation ;)

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within 6 months of training you can defeat yourself quite good. I have a friend who has been doing Wing Tsun for over 20 years. He once got attacked by two turkish guys because he tried to help a women who they molested. He broke one guys skull and the other one's splines with his hands.



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wonder what made some guys just randomly decide to jump on a group of another guys


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within 6 months of training you can defeat yourself quite good. I have a friend who has been doing Wing Tsun for over 20 years. He once got attacked by two turkish guys because he tried to help a women who they molested. He broke one guys skull and the other one's splines with his hands.
You're better off with a good pair of running shoes.
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Where was Kimbo when ya needed him???

Glad to hear you're ok, sounds like a few guys fueled by alcohol hanging with a mouthy bitch. Could have been a lot worse.
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I am talking with a friend the other day about random violence. I guess I was naive, never being a victim of anything.

Then it happens to me. I am walking back to my car after a night of being out with two friends. There is a group of 5 guys and a girl behind us, couple black guys and 3 spanish guys. They kept trying to provoke my one friend that was super drunk. I did the whole separate everybody type thing and told them "look my friend is really drunk, he didnt do anything etc etc" They lay off a little bit but still follow closely.

Then the girl in their group comes up right beside us and is like "holy shit, these guys just said they hate N*ggers" which was completely not even true, I was sending a text message on my phone and my other friends were talking about a girl they know. We turn around and crack, the fists start flying. Naturally they attack my really drunk friend first, he takes 2 solid punches in the face before I pull him away and down to the ground to get him away from the punches. As i am doing that I was attacked by two of the guys, one nailing me in the left jaw and another in the back of the head. Which I gotta say, surprisingly did not hurt at all till the next morning, and I gotta call these guys pussies for the sheer fact that they got 2 free punches on me that I did not even know were coming and it didnt do shit.

My one friend is laying on the ground, bleeding but fine, my other friend i lost sight of. I look around and 2 of the attackers see I am still standing (the others ran off like cowards) These guys start running at me screaming "we are gonna kill you whiteboy" I am still perplexed at this whole situation. So I jumped over a railing into a patio bar, which is ironic because the bouncers thought I was trying to jump the bar and roughed me up.

I am still kind of pissed about the whole situation, this came out of nowhere and on Valentines day of all nights. The thing that shocks me the most is HOW FAST, shit like this goes down. Even if you had a gun or a knife or anything, I think without the proper training, you would not even have a chance to use it.
Now we need a story writer to add a gun into this situation.
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Imm not a revenge kinda guy, but doesnt that just make you wanna hunt them down and chop their little pee pee off?!
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a springfeild .40 sub compact would have changed this story big time
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Even if you had a gun or a knife or anything, I think without the proper training, you would not even have a chance to use it.
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funny ow it was the chick who put it over the top..ive seen that many many times....not muchyou can do when drunkeness is involved.

you helped your friends..that is good enough.

fighting over senseless things is not worth it, which is why you never went on full attack mode...i bet if they had attacked your mom...gf etc...you would have turned into a monster

and all the wing chung in the world wont help you from someone that wants to rip your throat out...so....at least your friends i not badly hurt

i've always maintained that you can train all your life and still have your ass handed to you by a 140 lb guy who will not feel bad about breaking your arm..ripping your throat out etc


the winner will always be whoever wants to do the most amount of violence first
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funny ow it was the chick who put it over the top..ive seen that many many times....not muchyou can do when drunkeness is involved.

you helped your friends..that is good enough.

fighting over senseless things is not worth it, which is why you never went on full attack mode...i bet if they had attacked your mom...gf etc...you would have turned into a monster

and all the wing chung in the world wont help you from someone that wants to rip your throat out...so....at least your friends i not badly hurt

i've always maintained that you can train all your life and still have your ass handed to you by a 140 lb guy who will not feel bad about breaking your arm..ripping your throat out etc


the winner will always be whoever wants to do the most amount of violence first
Yeah i totally agree. People seem to think that it's going to be like Movie Violence or something. Where 5 guys surround one and they each wait their turn to attack the guy in the middle. Realistically they are just all punching you.

I never got to throw a single punch and I am not trying to make myself seem like some crazy tough guy, but I know 1-1 I could of easily beaten down 3 out of the 5 (Separate occasions heh) But it was obvious these guys have done this shit before and you never know what they have, knife etc.
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Yeah i totally agree. People seem to think that it's going to be like Movie Violence or something. Where 5 guys surround one and they each wait their turn to attack the guy in the middle. Realistically they are just all punching you.

I never got to throw a single punch and I am not trying to make myself seem like some crazy tough guy, but I know 1-1 I could of easily beaten down 3 out of the 5 (Separate occasions heh) But it was obvious these guys have done this shit before and you never know what they have, knife etc.
If you shoot one, the rest scatter away like the cockroaches they are.
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Imagine it was just yourself or yourself and a date ...... That's why some of us carry guns.
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Did you mean irony or idiocy? I'm not seeing much irony in the story.

Been in similar situations before, and you're right it is often the bitch girl (or the smallest punkiest guy with the biggest mouth) that causes the situation to flare up. I hope that in all the turmoil someone had the wherewithal to administer a decent bitchslap her way. :D

Lastly, it takes a real pussy to attack in numbers. Two or three idiots beating on one guy, real tough.
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wow thats crazy glad you guys are ok....

wonder what made some guys just randomly decide to jump on a group of another guys

my sense tell me there has to be more to this story.. sorry but I have been all over the world and almost always theres two side to a story

was your drunk friend hurling racial slurs by any chance?
Please, I've witnessed people start attacking other people for NO reason other than they were the ones closest to them. As recently as last weekend in fact. Bunch of college kids were walking down the street after the bars were closing and just started randomly attacking people. I sat back and watched. This isn't in a ghetto either, this is in a predominantly white Canadian small city.

Also had it happen to me. Sitting in pervert's row in a strip club minding my own business and I suddenly take a full beer bottle to the back of the head. Took me 2 minutes to even figure out what happened because I never spoke to anyone in the whole place except my friends and the strippers, and by the time I turned around the bouncer was already dragging the guys out who did it. Never even had a chance to say "hello" or "fuck you" or "why did you just smash a bottle over my head?"

The only common factor between any attack like that is alcohol.
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You're better off with a good pair of running shoes.
Yeah but what about his drunken friend? Of course he could have run away but then he would have had to left his friend with them.
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Who let the 10 year old in?
What's so funny? I am doing Karate since I am 8 years old and you need years of weekly training to be able and defend yourself because in Karate you do not practice real life fight situations. Wing Tsun / Blitz Defence are completely different and very effective. Obviously you have no idea about WT.
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i got rolled once in my life - it's a shitty feeling and i still think about it once in awhile. really amazes me how pathetic so many people are - but thinking the average guy can do a Bruce Willis and take on 2 or 3 guys, even one guy who outweighs you by 30 or more pounds is retarded. best thing is to get out of it alive and try to write it off without making yourself feel like a loser.

and no learning MMA and that shit isn't gonna help you on the street when you might be drunk and same with the idiots who are fucking with you.
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People will dissagree with me but here's what I solidly believe. By trying to
calm the situation when they started to show interest in you guys they felt
you and your friends were scared of them.....their balls grew inmediately
after that.

Whenever something like happens to me....I walk right up there start throwing
oil on the fire and when I see it doesn't impress them a bit I inmediately start
throwing punches without stopping till they're down and out.....best is
to straight for the clown with the biggest balls as he knows he'll be
fighting alone and his friends will run off as they all look up to him.....when
the tough guy gets targetted the balls of his friends shrink like mincy litlle
faggot balls...

Tough guy has more to lose by fighting than he can win.....He can lose his
respect of his friends by getting his ass kicked. And his ego will be seriously
bruised.....so 99% of the cases they don't want to fight unless you give
the idea they can't lose.......so don't give it to them.

in 99% of all cases you won't have to fight and they leave you alone....if
it does turn out into a fight it would have happened regardless of what you
do so any of this can't make things worse.

I'm sorry to hear about this experience for you and I'm glad you're ok.

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i got rolled once in my life - it's a shitty feeling and i still think about it once in awhile. really amazes me how pathetic so many people are - but thinking the average guy can do a Bruce Willis and take on 2 or 3 guys, even one guy who outweighs you by 30 or more pounds is retarded. best thing is to get out of it alive and try to write it off without making yourself feel like a loser.

and no learning MMA and that shit isn't gonna help you on the street when you might be drunk and same with the idiots who are fucking with you.
Wrong.....it's not about really being able to kick the asses of 3 guys without
getting as much as a single scratch....it's about making them feel you can.
It's very strange for a big guy when a smaller guy has no fear.....it makes
them question how come you're not scared as he's obviously much bigger
and simple logic tells him there must be a reason why you feel you can win.

They get insecure and uncomfortable by the feeling and wonder if you might
be armed, master some serious ninja skills or whatever......People generally
really don't like to get in a fight when they're NOT convinced they will win
it....especially not big guys....and even more so when there's witnesses
standing around who could possibly see him getting his ass handed to him.

Of course there's exceptions....but usually if they want to fight with you
they will.....no matter what you try to do to convince them not to. The
best way to convince them not to is simply...by making them feel less
secure about their decission to start messing with you.
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What's so funny? I am doing Karate since I am 8 years old and you need years of weekly training to be able and defend yourself because in Karate you do not practice real life fight situations. Wing Tsun / Blitz Defence are completely different and very effective. Obviously you have no idea about WT.
I took kickboxing for years. I still practice kicking for the hell of it. I could easily kick someone in the head/throat/back of the head easily if I have the range. But stuff doesnt work out like they train you. If I had a 3-4 foot range I could of easily done that. They rush you, and when they have the upper hand with not only people but surprise, its a whole other ballgame.

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This down in South Beach?
Worse, friends birthday in the grove. For those that dont know,the grove is a 3-4 block radius of really cool college bars, full of beautiful girls and never any problems. The issue is the area that borders the grove is a ghetto. Occasionally these hood rats come in and start trouble.
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What's so funny? I am doing Karate since I am 8 years old and you need years of weekly training to be able and defend yourself because in Karate you do not practice real life fight situations. Wing Tsun / Blitz Defence are completely different and very effective. Obviously you have no idea about WT.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:08 AM   #38
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wow thats crazy glad you guys are ok....

wonder what made some guys just randomly decide to jump on a group of another guys

my sense tell me there has to be more to this story.. sorry but I have been all over the world and almost always theres two side to a story

was your drunk friend hurling racial slurs by any chance?
you're such a fucking ass.

guess what? you can go to these areas in any city. you can even go to downtown seattle on a saturday night and there is no shortage of assholes walking around in groups trying to start fights with anyone for any reason because they want to fight and show off for their friends.

guess what? 95% of the time, its not white guys doing that.

sorry for that little dose of reality.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:14 AM   #39
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Fucked up. That bitch deserved a lot of beating. Not exactly the same, but sort of similar situation I saw last summer when a slut of that type put her bouncer bf to send a customer to hospital for no reason and even when the poor guy was down all bleeding she was telling him to hit him more.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:15 AM   #40
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Mix guys under the influence and mouthy women and you have trouble. I've been there and done that, too. Not much you can do but exit the scene without leaving a friend behind. You never know how far these people are willing to take it and a bit of wounded pride is better than risking your life.
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Young people out to start a fight usually accomplish their goal since it takes no brain. Which is convenient since when more than 2 teens get together, the collective IQ drops significantly.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:51 AM   #42
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u don't necessarily have to live in the ghetto to see crap like that.........it happens more frequently than you think here at the universal studios noho......
No shit.. I see violence all the time in NoHo and Burbank... Everyone has their moments..
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Holy crap... glad you're ok
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Nice that you guys are okay.

That chick is insane. What the hell is good in making his friends and your co fight each other? That's bullshit.
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was your drunk friend hurling racial slurs by any chance?
God, you pathetic dumb faggot piece of shit. Youre seriously the dumbest negro trash ive seen in ages.

You know what, it were you as usual racist black brothers who went all whiteboy this and that on them. Thats exactly how you like it since youre the biggest racist on this damn board. Youre such goddamn punk! Dumb as fuck.
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my sense tell me there has to be more to this story..
Yeah i sense something too, that everytime there is trouble here in this area blacks or Morrocans are involved. And not as the victim. Funny how that works...

Maybe you should look up some crime statistics and see what your racist buddies are good for.
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What a dumb fucking bitch...
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:08 PM   #48
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my sense tell me there has to be more to this story.. sorry but I have been all over the world and almost always theres two side to a story

was your drunk friend hurling racial slurs by any chance?
Its truly fucking amazing how black people attack him while yelling racial shit and you come here saying you dont trust it...you think the poor friendly black guys were the victim of racism.
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