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Old 03-04-2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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Incase I get banned, this is why

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...3#post13862523



I asked John for an update, if the people who caused all the trouble for NATS back in December were caught if there was any leads, etc.. How the investigation was going, hell for that matter is there anything we can do to help with it ?

Aparently John is screaming to high hell about this. Eric said I am repeating the same bullshit and that is why I am getting warned. Someone find me 1 thread in the last 2 months where John or anyone from NATS gave an update. I wasn't debating what happened to nats if it was fixed, I wasn't bashing them either. I was simply asking for an UPDATE? I would contact him individually but wouldn't everyone else like to hear if there is an update or note too?

Sorry i posted in his thread, all he had to do was say " no update" and i would have left, no thread jack would have happened, nor was that what i was trying to do. Like thread jacking is a banable offense around here anyway, even if that was my intention, which it was not.

I have never cheated, scammed or stole from anyone on this board or industry. I post a lot of helpfull information here and help people. I fight the right causes and now I may be banned because I asked John for an update.


Just letting you know what happened. chances or this thread will be locked or deleted and I will be banned, so if you want to get in touch with me ICQ: 86364801

If i get banned for this shit or pissing off a mod because I questioned his discession then this is not a site I want to post on then anyway.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:35 PM   #2
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Nice edit.

Originally you posted that Erik warned you for "reshashing old shit". The irony being that you made a new post to talk about what you got warned for.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:46 PM   #8
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I have to say that posting in that particular thread probably wasn't the best way to go about getting answers. It seems like you tried to sabotage his thread. I use nats for 2 different programs and would love an answer to what happened, i just think it was poor timing on your part.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:47 PM   #9
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:48 PM   #10
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Actually if they ban you Will fuckem. This place had become a cest pool of liars, thieves and wolfs in sheep's clothing. All these asshole you you been calling out by which all means you have been correct on from what i have seen need to be pointed out. You know if you had no grounds on your postings i could see the issue.

So anyways Will keep fighting the good fight. Just remember there our other community's out there that would love to have a active member like yourself.

On a side note we use nats and still haven't heard a single update either so go figure....
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Nice edit.

Originally you posted that Erik warned you for "reshashing old shit". The irony being that you made a new post to talk about what you got warned for.
I don't think he thinks things out ahead of time.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:50 PM   #12
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Nice edit.

Originally you posted that Erik warned you for "reshashing old shit". The irony being that you made a new post to talk about what you got warned for.
I edited for spelling and grammer errors only, and i still missed some. WTF are you talking about ?


Here is the post i made in John's thread that he proceeded to argue with me about instead of just answering the question:

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I know this is probably considered old news by many people here, and I know I am violating a bro rule, but since you haven't been around lately and I haven't seen any updates I have to ask....

Did you guys get to the bottom of who was using your admin user / pass and logging into NATS' client's servers and accessing their sensative information? I remember the " its on going we can't talk about it" etc.. etc.. posts a couple months ago. So is it still "on going" or is it just " forget and move on" time.

I was really hoping to hear you caught someone or followed the money trail and found out what companies were benefiting from the stolen info.
I don't think I could have put it any nicer. I know lots of people wanted to know as well, so why should everyone contact him individually for updates. All he had to do was answer the question " no new updates" and i wouldnt have posted.

Anyway I will get banned because Eric told me to drop the nats stuff, I am not arguing with John or nats with this post, just explaining that this isn't old news and I don't think i did anything wrong, other than posting in his thread and asking an off topic question, which if that is a banable offense, then all of you should be banned.

I am off to do work i will check back in tomorrow to see if I can still post here or not. Now you know the story if I am banned. Never had a "stike" over the last 5 years, never been warned, and I am probably going to get banned for asking John for an update and then making my case that I was doing nothing wrong. oh well.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:50 PM   #13
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This whole secrecy about who made money from the leaks makes it hard for me to trust them...

Was there ever any police report filled about this ? I asked this questions 10 times during the drama. Never got any answers.

That dumb fucker making Nats threads everyday made the attention go away from the problem onto him...
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He just doesn't stop talking

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Will... shut up. People like your causes, but are starting to not like you because... you just don't shut up. EVER.
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I wouldnt have minded an update either.

We visted the NATS suite in Vegas hoping to discuss this as well but found the suite locked down and John in another suite hobnobbing with Corvette.

I wonder if Segpay takes priority over the NATS clients now?
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Will76, since you're a target by the bro's.. just get someone else to make the posts for you. If the questions were asked by anyone else, it'd probably get a pass.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:06 PM   #23
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Fuck the haters Will... Keep bringing up whatever you want.

From stuff I've seen on this board:

1. "Red" colored nick = Nothing of any substance to ever warrant reading or replying to. Look up some "red" nick posts and see for yourself.
2. "Green" colored nick = 50/50 crap shoot. Gotta either have followed some posts of the "green" or do your own research. Few warrant replying to or reading, however.
3. "Yellow/orange". Test join date to number of posts. Usually, an older join date with low number of posts = one who posts more thought.
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You used to have fun posts JDL (years ago).
Now you just fucking suck.
Keep sporting whatever's in your sig (I have'em turned off).
And Kudos to you for building yourself as a board whore who warrants getting paid to post drivel. It must take either a special sales pitch on your part or a retarded sig buyer. *shrug*

And if you're off your meds and have read this far, I actually want to give you props for building a market that wants to give you money. Seriously. And in all honesty, you have created something out of nothing. -- That is bad ass.

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I wouldnt have minded an update either.

We visted the NATS suite in Vegas hoping to discuss this as well but found the suite locked down and John in another suite hobnobbing with Corvette.

I wonder if Segpay takes priority over the NATS clients now?
I think he owed the industry a update considering, he set that minusbitone kid off and it was all over the press. The AP even interviewed you about it. I dont think this is some old bullshit.
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The point is that it is not something that he wanted to discuss on the board. That is a fair position to take. I don't think it is particularly professional to be discussing these matters on a public board either.

Why not just contact him directly and get this sorted and stop alienating yourself from the rest of the industry. I really see no point in arguing on a message board about things of this nature.
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Will... shut up. People like your causes, but are starting to not like you because... you just don't shut up. EVER.
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I am not going to ban you, but you are wearing my patience very very thin. I asked you to chill out on the issue. We even discussed your issues with Damian over ICQ and I handled that for you, based on his breaking GFY rules.

You just can't seem figure out when you should SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Keep pushing me Will. I haven't banned you because I think you do provide good info. But you are pushing my patience.
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I am not going to ban you, but you are wearing my patience very very thin. I asked you to chill out on the issue. We even discussed your issues with Damian over ICQ and I handled that for you, based on his breaking GFY rules.

You just can't seem figure out when you should SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Keep pushing me Will. I haven't banned you because I think you do provide good info. But you are pushing my patience.
This is crap, what you and others have done! I can't stand will 99.9% of the time, but locking threads and sticking the nose into something that don't really concern you is wrong and rude* even though im doing the same thing, so i'll just stfu myself*! Im just given my which isnt worth shit.

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This whole secrecy about who made money from the leaks makes it hard for me to trust them...

Was there ever any police report filled about this ? I asked this questions 10 times during the drama. Never got any answers.

That dumb fucker making Nats threads everyday made the attention go away from the problem onto him...
Same here.. It is quite funny how it all just disappeared and was never talked about again. I still see it as a very "shady" deal. When you take into consideration that John also ran Pornograph.com and it was "supposedly" sold just prior to it being used to infect thousands of webmasters sites with Trojans. He wouldn't talk about that either.

So John has a shady past and is far to quiet, about BS that has fucked over hundreds if not thousands of webmasters. Yet he remains silent and wont give any of us any updates as if none of us deserve it or should know. Seems like history repeating it's self.. so what will be next?
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As mainly an affiliate webmaster, I want to say "Thanks" to you for pointing out a lot of things about the industry and taking a stand. You may not be perfect but I'm glad to see you here and that there are people such as yourself willing to speak up where others will not.
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So John has a shady past and is far to quiet, about BS that has fucked over hundreds if not thousands of webmasters. Yet he remains silent and wont give any of us any updates as if none of us deserve it or should know. Seems like history repeating it's self.. so what will be next?



So yeah, when are we actually going to hear something NATS?
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So yeah, when are we actually going to hear something NATS?
As I've said in the threads, unfortunately there is nothing new to report and no one has been caught. These things aren't as easy as some people like to pretend they are.

The issue was fixed months ago. If we have any updates on finding anything else out about it they will be made.
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This whole secrecy about who made money from the leaks makes it hard for me to trust them...

Was there ever any police report filled about this ? I asked this questions 10 times during the drama. Never got any answers.

That dumb fucker making Nats threads everyday made the attention go away from the problem onto him...
I agree. I thought Nats received a great deal of unfair criticism form a certain person but a refusal to respond to even reasonable inquires makes it seem like they are hiding something. Rushing to get Will76 banned for politely inquiring into the issue raises even more doubts. As an affiliate I also resent the repeated implication that only programs who purchase Nats have a legitimate interest in the issue as opposed to affiliates who are supposed to trust in the integrity of the software.
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As you weren't stating anything that wasn't said before, and you weren't making any claims without base, this isn't worth a ban, even if I find you to be a self-professed" savior of the industry," and annoying as hell.

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I agree. I thought Nats received a great deal of unfair criticism form a certain person but a refusal to respond to even reasonable inquires makes it seem like they are hiding something. Rushing to get Will76 banned for politely inquiring into the issue raises even more doubts. As an affiliate I also resent the repeated implication that only programs who purchase Nats have a legitimate interest in the issue as opposed to affiliates who are supposed to trust in the integrity of the software.
The security issue was just as much of an issue for affiliates as it was for program owners. I'd like anyone to show me where I've said otherwise as I don't believe. If I ever have, I was wrong, but I really don't see that as something I'd ever say as I don't believe it to be true. You have as much interest in it as people who run NATS.

I have no problem answering questions about it, any questions, I'm just tired of doing it here with dozens of fake nicks, trolls, etc. running around. And it was gone about in totally the wrong fashion in that thread. If something is so important to you and you're wondering about it for months you don't dive into a special offer thread with it. I'm easy to contact. It hasn't been the first time he's given me a hard time either. I didn't go running to Eric right away, inf act I didn't even mention Will to Eric until the next day when he tried to start an anonymous drama thread about my company. I guess jumping into the first thread with drama wasn't enough for him.

The check was fedexed out to Webmaster Toy Run today btw.

Again, I am more than happy to answer any questions from NATS users or affiliates. I'm just done doing it here. It just ends up wasting time with people who aren't even in this biz or fake nicks, etc. If you are an affiliate still feel free to contact me. I'm more than happy to discuss it with you.

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