Why is it OK for the USA to attack Iraq, but not Russia attacking Georgia?

[kmanrox]

seems kind of hypocritical, doesn't it? at least Russia can say that GE attacked them so they had to retaliate, what did Iraq do to us? Iran has done more to us than Iraq, but they're more of a formidable opponent I guess.

[ztik]

yeah its pretty stupid

nuke georgia!

[seeandsee]

mass destruction weapons, now repeat this 1000000 times in a row and you will believe

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by kmanrox

seems kind of hypocritical, doesn't it? at least Russia can say that GE attacked them so they had to retaliate, what did Iraq do to us? Iran has done more to us than Iraq, but they're more of a formidable opponent I guess.

Because Georgia attacked Russia first, that's why it is ok. Plus Sakaashvili is a hitler like crminal.

[halfpint]

Dont think the USA or Nato Or the UN want to attack any country that have nukes..that would be far to risky. We only go to war with countrys who cant defend themselves. We are nothing more than bullys

[WhiplashDug]

i heard something about 27 UN resolutions being violated, a couple thousand violations of the cease fire agreement, and something about wmd's... which were not found... but they did find a bunch of yellow cake!!!

the situation in Georgia is far more complicated than just what we all think we see/know. I guess we'll just end up knowing what they tell us...

[IllTestYourGirls]

Because Georgia fired on and killed Russians. Russia is defending itself... for real not like the US defending itself from Iraq and soon Iran

[DaddyHalbucks]

The USA tried to resolve the Iraq matter in the UN for 11 years..

[cem]

I never said it's ok for the USA to attack Iraq so

[mona]

Well, that would assume that the USA is rational, which, unfortunately, it's not. I love all the right wing conservative Christrians that have affairs with gay men...I mean, is that REALLY hypocritical, or is it just me.

[jalami]

It's obviously because USA is A-OK and Russia is a bunch of commie bastards!!!

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

The USA tried to resolve the Iraq matter in the UN for 11 years..

the 'iraq matter'

[Vendot]

Well if its okay for US to attack Iraq and for Russia to attack Georgia.

It should be okay for the US to attack Russia, no?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

The USA tried to resolve the Iraq matter in the UN for 11 years..

How long have we been trying to resolve the Cuban matter for?

[The Judge]

Because one country protects freedom and democracy and the other is made of scamming pieces of shit.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

How long have we been trying to resolve the Cuban matter for?

Cuba doesn't have a problem other than the USA trade embargo and the bullshit propaganda it spreads against the Cuban government. The USA single handedly crippled Cuba after the Soviet Union fell and bullies most nations to not trade with them.

The USA will probably own Cuba before it's all said and done anyway.

[StickyGreen]

You guys have it all figured out huh lmao...

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by mona_klixxx

Well, that would assume that the USA is rational, which, unfortunately, it's not. I love all the right wing conservative Christrians that have affairs with gay men...I mean, is that REALLY hypocritical, or is it just me.

That drives me crazy. The other night one of my idiot republican friends was giving me shit about Edwards admitting his affair with another woman. I couldn't believe it. Why is it a big deal? That's his private life. At least it was with an adult of the opposite sex unlike the republicans who have affairs with young male pages.

[Deej]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

That drives me crazy. The other night one of my idiot republican friends was giving me shit about Edwards admitting his affair with another woman. I couldn't believe it. Why is it a big deal? That's his private life. At least it was with an adult of the opposite sex unlike the republicans who have affairs with young male pages.

Why would anyone care about his sex life? I thought him lying about it once he was caught was the big deal... ?

[seven]

Originally Posted by Vendot

Well if its okay for US to attack Iraq and for Russia to attack Georgia.

It should be okay for the US to attack Russia, no?

Yep! They should try that but not before I move to Mars please

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

The USA tried to resolve the Iraq matter in the UN for 11 years..

what matter was that? the fantasy WMD's or the real oil?

[Fucking myself]

Originally Posted by kmanrox

seems kind of hypocritical, doesn't it? at least Russia can say that GE attacked them so they had to retaliate, what did Iraq do to us? Iran has done more to us than Iraq, but they're more of a formidable opponent I guess.

It's wasn't OK for the US to attack IRAQ. Who said it was ?

[Robatolla]

Originally Posted by nico-t

what matter was that? the fantasy WMD's or the real oil?

our planes did get shot at several times over those eleven years.

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Why would anyone care about his sex life? I thought him lying about it once he was caught was the big deal... ?

It was. That fact that his ass lied and everyone knew it what is what makes him look bad. Plus his wife has cancer, what a douche bag.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Cuba doesn't have a problem other than the USA trade embargo and the bullshit propaganda it spreads against the Cuban government. The USA single handedly crippled Cuba after the Soviet Union fell and bullies most nations to not trade with them.

The USA will probably own Cuba before it's all said and done anyway.

Like Cuba didn't deserve it. I am part Cuban and grew up in Miami. Most Cubans are happy to get the hell out of Cuba. Cuba has a shit load of problems besides the USA. It is not propaganda at all. Do you even know people that still live in Cuba?

[YellowDude]

No comment here.... better

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by The Judge

Because one country protects freedom and democracy and the other is made of scamming pieces of shit.

half true, it's a fact that most of the scammers come from the US but I'm not sure that Russia is all about protecting freedom and democracy, at least not yet

[Snake Doctor]

Don't you love these straw man arguments?

You'll find very few Americans who will say today that it was ok for the US to attack Iraq.....so trying to use that as justification for what Russia is doing is just ridiculous.

Either Russia has a very good reason or it doesn't....nothing that anyone else is doing or has done in the world is relevant.

[defresto]

To make things simplier:
Imagine Cuba would say that Hawai belongs to it, though Hawai had a different idea about that. Then Cuba attacs Hawai and US sends troops to Hawai to drive cuban troops out.

Exactly the same situation is in the Conflict between Russia and Georgia.
Georgia attacked Osetia whose population wants to be an independent country or a part of Russia and not Georgia. After the attack the government and population of Osetia asked the Russians to drive Georgian troops out. So actually russia is not attacking Georgia it is helping Osetia to drive georgian troops away.

[Adam_M]

Iran is the real concern at the moment.

With around 10 US war ships moving into the gulf for a naval blockade to prevent the shipment of benzene. This would cripple the Iranian economy and stop them from exporting fuel products to China and Russia.

This is a game that could get out of hand fast if we see China and Russia send ships to escort the benzene into Iran.

[Matt 26z]

The war in Georgia is no different than what went on between Mexico, Texas and the US. Same exact thing. EXACT.

Texas and Ossetia declare independence.

Mexico and Georgia try to get that part of their country back under control by going in.

Mexico and Georgia attack the neighboring country's military aiding the revolution.

[cranki]

rofl, gfy discussing world politics is like..... I can't even come up with an adequate analogy, that's how funny it is

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

I sure hope that the Atlanta Forum is not cancelled now that Georgia is under attack from the Ruskies...

ADG

[SmokeyTheBear]

because saddam hussein was never in georgia silly

[RobAlbaugh]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

The USA tried to resolve the Iraq matter in the UN for 11 years..

Dude, seriously. Get a grip. At no point was Iraq ever a threat to American safety. We lied about WMD so we could invade Iraq and take it over for oil. Think of all the lives lost because of the lie Bushy told. its fucking senseless.

[Poindexterity]

neither are ok.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by JaneB

Like Cuba didn't deserve it. I am part Cuban and grew up in Miami. Most Cubans are happy to get the hell out of Cuba. Cuba has a shit load of problems besides the USA. It is not propaganda at all. Do you even know people that still live in Cuba?

Of course you are going to say something like that, you live in Miami and are part Cuban. I must ask, have you even been there? Ive been there a lot for extended periods and have hitch hiked across the island, all of it, several times. It's poor, but it's a lovely place.

Sure Cuba has problems, that was not what I meant. I was referring to global problems or issues that involve other countries. However, Cuba is dirty poor and struggling because of the USA. That is a fact. We have them in a headlock and have been chocking them out for years.

SOME Cubans are happy to leave Cuba. The only Cubans I've met IN Cuba who still want to leave, are younger Cubans who are more into getting their hands on the latest fashion brands and making money. Lift the trade embargo and let money start to pour into that country and opportunity and see who still wants to leave.

And yea, you have people who speak out against Castro jailed. So what? They know it's not allowed, and they do it anyway. Pretty fucking stupid if you ask me. Is it a human rights violation? Maybe. The US has done worse over less. No country is perfect. But they people know the rules and choose to break them. The people in Cuba have other small freedoms that Americans don't have, but on the flip side, they don't have the freedom to criticize their government. Break the rules, pay the price.

I know Cuba is not perfect, but it is special. When Fidel and Raul are gone and if the next leader is able to mend the relationship with the USA, "Cuba" is over. The Cubas have no idea how easy they have it right now. Free health care, one of the highest literacy rates in the word, it's safe and it is cut off from the outside world that is just DYING to race in to destroy the charm that is Cuba. Startbucks and McDondalds have already secured private deals for locations along the Malecon in Havana. Think about that. How sad.

What is going to happen is this. American investors (and American Cubans) are going to run in there and take everything. The old cars, the antique furniture, old musical instruments, old bikes, old radios... you name it. The Cubans are going to sell it all to them (or get fucked out of it) and be left holding that glorious green wad of cash and will have lost everything that makes that island so unique. That will be sad. T

hen what you will have is Havana revived and the new tourist spot for Americans, but the Cuban people and smaller cities are going to suffer more than before. No more free health care and now they get a shitty education system. Free food or rations, nope. Because they won't be able to have it with the new way of doing things. Most of Cuba will then turn into another Dominican Republic, otherwise a poverty filled shit hole, that was better off before. It's going to be very sad. Mark my words, this will happen.

The only saving grace to this story is if the USA somehow makes Cuba a state somewhere down the road. That would pull them out of the slump and turn them into another Puerto Rico, and the military will continue to keep the base there, unrestricted, meaning that GIs would pretty much take over the southern part of the island and Santiago De Cuba. This would be about the only option that would save Cuba from totally falling into more despair.

[fallenmuffin]

Because its America. Geesh.

[brassmonkey]

damn seems like war of words on gfy

[roly]

Originally Posted by The Judge

Because one country protects freedom and democracy and the other is made of scamming pieces of shit.

america is not that bad

[Biggy]

When George W went against the UN and invaded Iraq, he set the stage for these kinds of things.

Now the UN is speaking to Russia, and guess what, they don't have to listen because the US did the same exact thing when it came to Iraq. Its absolutely hypocritical thinking that Russia should comply when the US snubbed the UN over Iraq. It's no different. We told the world to fuck off when it came to Iraq, and guess what, now Russia is telling the world to fuck off when it comes to Georgia.

As an American, that's the first thing that came to my mind. Don't be surprised if you see the same thing from other countries. When a permanent member ignores the UN, it takes a lot of credibility away. One of the many terrible things George W can put under his accomplishments.

[Peace]

let Peace come and rule over all evil wars

[AdultMovies.bz]

I honestly hope America doesn't try to attack Russia, as high and mighty US thinks they are Russian soldiers are actually trained and are far better prepared then we think, the US army is now largely comprised of illegal mexicans who only joined to get a free green card lol

[mattz]

It's wrong because the US isn't involved.

[cherrylula]

Its not OK. Not at all.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by kmanrox

seems kind of hypocritical, doesn't it? at least Russia can say that GE attacked them so they had to retaliate, what did Iraq do to us? Iran has done more to us than Iraq, but they're more of a formidable opponent I guess.

since when are politics and hypocrisy mutually exclusive of each other?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Because its America. Geesh.

The best answer yet.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by AdultMovies.bz

I honestly hope America doesn't try to attack Russia, as high and mighty US thinks they are Russian soldiers are actually trained and are far better prepared then we think, the US army is now largely comprised of illegal mexicans who only joined to get a free green card lol

i got a sad bit of news for you comrade, russian soldiers are very poorly trained, have horrible equipment and are very poorly taken care of.

it took two wars for Russia to subdue Chechnya... the first war they have to give up completely and granted Chechnya their independence... the second time around it took 100K plus soldiers, tanks, planes, helicopters etc and 4-5 years to marginally suppress less than 10k, poorly trained bandits and mercenaries who had nothing but Ak-47s, RPG's and sniper rifles... even then, they had to do it by totally just razing entire cities to the ground from a distance.

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by Biggy

When George W went against the UN and invaded Iraq, he set the stage for these kinds of things.

Yeah exactly...... well said. Its obvious but too many people just dont get it.

Things are fucked now because Blair and Bush didnt have the foresight to see what kind of damage they were doing beyond the immediate consequences that we already know about (and they didnt foresee those either).